Red-shirt core leader Kwanchai shot

[chooka]

This is a great opportunity for Suthep to lift his profile and possibly garnish some more support. He needs to get up on his stage and vigorously denounce such actions. He needs to public call on his supporters in the loudest possible manner to not resort to such violence or to kidnap government officials. If he does this he may even lift himself up in the eyes of the international community. Suthep call for the immeadiate investigation and arrest of the persons responsible and give the police your utmost support. Maybe some sincere and truly heart felt messages of condolences and support to the victims family.

[rogerdee123]

The curious thing is that the other paper is reporting the discovery by Police of 30 M16 casings near the fence, and Khaosod, 7.62mm casings.

probably neither know what they are talking about .....

[fab4]

Oh dear. So sad. Never mind.

What a sick comment. How can you wish that on anybody?

Same goes for those that "liked" your shameful post.

Indeed, Just for the keyboard warriors don't forget there are other people it affects, not just the victim

[whybother]

This is a great opportunity for Suthep to lift his profile and possibly garnish some more support. He needs to get up on his stage and vigorously denounce such actions. He needs to public call on his supporters in the loudest possible manner to not resort to such violence or to kidnap government officials. If he does this he may even lift himself up in the eyes of the international community. Suthep call for the immeadiate investigation and arrest of the persons responsible and give the police your utmost support. Maybe some sincere and truly heart felt messages of condolences and support to the victims family.

Why would Suthep bother commenting on something that is probably a business deal gone wrong?

[jayjay49]

Thank you Mr.Suthep, another victim on your account!!

[pokahontass]

can any of you brave ppl tell me if its safe to go outside yet. i want to go to 7eleven and get some chocolate cake

[chooka]

This is a great opportunity for Suthep to lift his profile and possibly garnish some more support. He needs to get up on his stage and vigorously denounce such actions. He needs to public call on his supporters in the loudest possible manner to not resort to such violence or to kidnap government officials. If he does this he may even lift himself up in the eyes of the international community. Suthep call for the immeadiate investigation and arrest of the persons responsible and give the police your utmost support. Maybe some sincere and truly heart felt messages of condolences and support to the victims family.

Why would Suthep bother commenting on something that is probably a business deal gone wrong?

I didn't realise it was part of a business deal.

My appologies I assumed that it was part of the pro and anti government situation. I stand duly corrected.

[iancnx]

Thailand's red shirt leader shot; police pick up 42 bullet casings

<snip>

A police source told The Straits Times 42 bullet casings were found at the scene, and Mr Kwanchai had been hit in the right arm and leg while he was sitting outside his office drinking coffee and reading the newspaper.

More here - straitstime

Hmmmmmmm, regular AK47 doesn't hold 42 rounds in it's clip........

National Magazine 50 Round Black Mag For AK-47/7.62X39MM ...

The holes in the post are not consistent with 7.62mm @ 100m !

[bigbamboo]

Chalerm's third hand at work again. I notice he keeps it behind his back at press conferences.

I thought it was a third hand that worked Chalerm?

[bunnaag]

can any of you brave ppl tell me if its safe to go outside yet. i want to go to 7eleven and get some chocolate cake

chocolate cake from 7eleven?you must be a very brave person because coconut fat is not good for your health.

[JRSoul]

The holes in the post are not consistent with 7.62mm @ 100m !

Not having shot any concrete posts at 100m, or having viewed other photographs of same, I will bow to your expertise. So what are they consistent with?

[transam]

Thailand's red shirt leader shot; police pick up 42 bullet casings

<snip>

A police source told The Straits Times 42 bullet casings were found at the scene, and Mr Kwanchai had been hit in the right arm and leg while he was sitting outside his office drinking coffee and reading the newspaper.

More here - straitstime

Hmmmmmmm, regular AK47 doesn't hold 42 rounds in it's clip........

National Magazine 50 Round Black Mag For AK-47/7.62X39MM ...

The holes in the post are not consistent with 7.62mm @ 100m !

Looks bigger to me, but perhaps the post was near the shooter and the target was way further on.

[Trembly]

If anyone bore a grudge on him for any reason whatsoever this would be the perfect time...

Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand

[iancnx]

The holes in the post are not consistent with 7.62mm @ 100m !

Not having shot any concrete posts at 100m, or having viewed other photographs of same, I will bow to your expertise. So what are they consistent with?

Assuming the ammunition is in good condition as manufactured I would expect 3 rounds to have impacted heavily enough to blow away substantial pieces of concrete to at least expose some internal rebar. As I said earlier it looks like .22 to me. But to be sure you need to be there!

[NBD]

Got to love the Thaivisa ballistics experts who can tell the calibre of bullet and the range it was fired from by looking at some grainy photo of a hole in a concrete post. Any ideas on the make and model?

[transam]

Got to love the Thaivisa ballistics experts who can tell the calibre of bullet and the range it was fired from by looking at some grainy photo of a hole in a concrete post. Any ideas on the make and model?

You can ignore us chum. Good to talk sometimes, Chill out and have a beer. ..........

[JRSoul]

The holes in the post are not consistent with 7.62mm @ 100m !

Not having shot any concrete posts at 100m, or having viewed other photographs of same, I will bow to your expertise. So what are they consistent with?

Assuming the ammunition is in good condition as manufactured I would expect 3 rounds to have impacted heavily enough to blow away substantial pieces of concrete to at least expose some internal rebar. As I said earlier it looks like .22 to me. But to be sure you need to be there!

Bloody big assumption old son. A lot of the AK ammo floating around asia has been around since the Viet Nam war. And while Russia was generously supplying NVN, a lot of stuff they sold them was out of date - bolt action SSKs and old ammo due to be scrapped way back then.

Edited January 22, 2014 by JRSoul

[iancnx]

Got to love the Thaivisa ballistics experts who can tell the calibre of bullet and the range it was fired from by looking at some grainy photo of a hole in a concrete post. Any ideas on the make and model?

It's difficult to be sure of the make or model of the concrete post. One assumes it is 4 inches wide and made of low grade Thai concrete.

What I was saying the damage did not look consistent with 3 hits of 7.62mm at the reported distance of 100m

As for the ballistics knowledge you are attempting to take the pssi out of, pray tell us, what do you think?

[iancnx]

The holes in the post are not consistent with 7.62mm @ 100m !

Not having shot any concrete posts at 100m, or having viewed other photographs of same, I will bow to your expertise. So what are they consistent with?

Assuming the ammunition is in good condition as manufactured I would expect 3 rounds to have impacted heavily enough to blow away substantial pieces of concrete to at least expose some internal rebar. As I said earlier it looks like .22 to me. But to be sure you need to be there!

Bloody big assumption old son. A lot of the AK ammo floating around asia has been around since the Viet Nam war. And while Russia was generously supplying NVN, a lot of stuff they sold them was out of date - bolt action SSKs and old ammo due to be scrapped way back then.

If it was old expired degraded ammo that would explain both the lack of damage to the post and the reason the victim is still alive as opposed to multiple fatal internal injuries sustained by ricocheting high velocity tumblers.... Maybe.

[Tywais]

42 rounds from 100 yds at a sitting duck target, with 2 hits.

"A rabble is no more an army than a pile of building materials is a house. " Socrates

An AK47 on full auto is not a very accurate weapon at those distances. Muzzle climb can be significant.

Only an untrained idiot would attempt a 42 round auto burst.

I will go with that one. Let's say, 2 seconds apart to allow barrow to stabilize and re-aim in single shot mode that would be 84 seconds. Don't think they would want to hang around firing away that long and the target would have moved post haste by then also considering an arm & leg wound only. Of course, there may have been multiple weapons, but still rather amateurs.

[briboy]

RT @RichardBarrow: Two bullets hit Kwanchai, others hit this concrete pillar (Via @Chu_SpringNews) http://t.co/aK3XxC5VMg n

IF it was a high velocity round the firing point would have had to have been a long long way away if the picture is true! Or the rounds had already passed through an obstacle.

Sorry already been mentioned withdrawn post.

Edited January 22, 2014 by briboy

[gemini81]

Karma; sooner or later it catches up. Thai politics are a dangerous profession! Nice to watch along the sidelines and hopefully we don't get caught in the crossfire while out & about here in the big unstable Mango.

[rogerdee123]

Thailand's red shirt leader shot; police pick up 42 bullet casings

<snip>

A police source told The Straits Times 42 bullet casings were found at the scene, and Mr Kwanchai had been hit in the right arm and leg while he was sitting outside his office drinking coffee and reading the newspaper.

More here - straitstime

Hmmmmmmm, regular AK47 doesn't hold 42 rounds in it's clip........

National Magazine 50 Round Black Mag For AK-47/7.62X39MM ...

The holes in the post are not consistent with 7.62mm @ 100m !

Don't forget this is a concrete post poured by a Thai contractor. Also it looks like their amazing weapon shot a two or three inch piece out of that rebar. I wonder if Kwanchai was sitting out in that field or in that sandbox drinking his coffee.

Edited January 22, 2014 by rogerdee123

[Basil B]

Surprised no one's blamed the red shirts for doing this in an attempt to discredit the anti-government protesters!

Probably because it is as absurd as saying the grenade attacks on the anti government protesters is self inflicted for the same reason.

[Loles]

AK-47 ?

They really know what is the good weapon to kill.

Mr, Kalasnikov would be happy.

[JRSoul]

42 rounds from 100 yds at a sitting duck target, with 2 hits.

"A rabble is no more an army than a pile of building materials is a house. " Socrates

An AK47 on full auto is not a very accurate weapon at those distances. Muzzle climb can be significant.

Only an untrained idiot would attempt a 42 round auto burst.

I will go with that one. Let's say, 2 seconds apart to allow barrow to stabilize and re-aim in single shot mode that would be 84 seconds. Don't think they would want to hang around firing away that long and the target would have moved post haste by then also considering an arm & leg wound only. Of course, there may have been multiple weapons, but still rather amateurs.

But that's not using your weapon's capability. On auto with 3-4 round bursts and a cyclic rate ~600rpm, you should easily manage a burst every 2 seconds. With anybody competent and a sighted rifle, the guy should be hamburger.

The less accurate model is 'capable of shooting 4–6 inch groups at 100 yards' and 'The best shooters are able to hit a man-sized target at 800 metres with five shots (firing from prone position or a trench) or ten shots (standing)' source wiki.

[chooka]

Got to love the Thaivisa ballistics experts who can tell the calibre of bullet and the range it was fired from by looking at some grainy photo of a hole in a concrete post. Any ideas on the make and model?

It's difficult to be sure of the make or model of the concrete post. One assumes it is 4 inches wide and made of low grade Thai concrete.

What I was saying the damage did not look consistent with 3 hits of 7.62mm at the reported distance of 100m

As for the ballistics knowledge you are attempting to take the pssi out of, pray tell us, what do you think?

Whilst we are all off topic I would also like to discuss the concrete post. By the looks of it, it was constructed by an 11 yr and 73 day old Burmese boy who was kidnapped and used as slave labour. He was forced to mix concrete left over from the Vietnam war and had no pride in his work, hence the use of to much sand causing the structure to be weak and brittle. The actual shots were fired by a 12 yr old girl called AIR using a slug/BB gun ho is still pissed off that the Thai authorities haven't captured and prosecuted her tormentors. The Thai authorities have lost face over the incident and fabricated a new story of a machine gun being used.

It is all very logical and simple really.

[Loles]

Thank you Mr.Suthep, another victim on your account!!

Man, you have to see your doctor as soon as possible, or if you are simple drunk don't drink more today!

[rogerdee123]

I'm wondering if that miniature zebra in the sandbox may have also been hit.

[Basil B]

Thailand's red shirt leader shot; police pick up 42 bullet casings

<snip>

A police source told The Straits Times 42 bullet casings were found at the scene, and Mr Kwanchai had been hit in the right arm and leg while he was sitting outside his office drinking coffee and reading the newspaper.

More here - straitstime

Hmmmmmmm, regular AK47 doesn't hold 42 rounds in it's clip........

National Magazine 50 Round Black Mag For AK-47/7.62X39MM ...

The holes in the post are not consistent with 7.62mm @ 100m !

The post is close to the road where they shot from, I presume Mr Kwanchai was near the building 100m away.

That gun barrel must have been glowing cherry red....