A scam or a traffic law ?

[napoleon3]

Hallo everyone,

First off all, sorry for my spelling, I am not used to write in English.

Today I got a very strange mail from a friend. I try to make it easy.

Yesterday he stopped his car at is home.

A few seconds later, a moterbike hit his car from behind.

The driver, a 25 years old lady fell and was bleeding.

She was taken to hospital.

Today he went to see her, all family was there.

If he paid 10.000 bath, they would drop all charges against him!!!

He was told, according to Thai law, tre driver of the most expensive vehicle had to pay for the cheaper one,

So, a motorbike has to pay for a bicycle, a car for a motorbike, a truck for a car etc.....

To avoid problem, he paid !!!!

Is there any such law in Thailand? Or did he get ....... ?

Thank you all.

napoleon3

[EyesWideOpen]

Scam.... General traffic rules in the west are that if you drive into the back

of some one, you are 100% at fault. Pretty sure it is the same here. Your

friend should have called the police and demanded the girl pay for the scratch

on his bumper....

If you could get paid 10,000 baht for running your motorcycle into the back of a car,

there would be 50,000 accidents a day here.....

[PiPiFFS]

Your friend should have simply called his insurance agent and left it all to them to sort out. Unless he hasn't got first class insurance ?

[Hedghog]

Yesterday

I nearly hit your friends car.

I will pm you my details

Please make Bht 5,000 available,for the near miss.

Thanks.

[eyecatcher]

Is there anyone here more developed than an amoeba

How the hell did some people manage to get here.

[CharlieH]

Please dont ever think about having children !

Some people should not be allowed to breed !

[Farma]

It sounds like a scam or misunderstanting.

Just thinking outside the box here.

Did the friend park in a no parking zone?

I recall a year or more back where someone in Phuket ended up in a lot of trouble.

He had parked in a no parking zone and a person died when they ran into the back of his parked car.

[napoleon3]

It sounds like a scam or misunderstanting.

Just thinking outside the box here.

Did the friend park in a no parking zone?

I recall a year or more back where someone in Phuket ended up in a lot of trouble.

He had parked in a no parking zone and a person died when they ran into the back of his parked car.

Thank you,

According his story, he just stopped to open his gate, I do not know if he put his warning lights, it was abouth 06.00pm, so not dark yet.

[MichaelShort]

Apologise for my bad english.

I'm quite sure it is a scam!

Have thai people in my village who just took driver license for real (not paid to get it). I asked them for some rules and it is littlebit similar to Europe.

Though -If you brake to hard so the vehicle behind you drive into you you can be responsibly for the accident, so I was told.

So it is not really that rule you have to keep distance, but then also it will be an investigation by the police, since it is only if you brake hard..

So if he not brake hard and did a stupid stop he can not be responsibly for it.

It is a scam I'm sure. Depending on insurance he have etc I should not pay "one satang" to them...

One more thing, when he go and talk to them make sure to have a voice recorder and record everything they say, that might be useful later if they try to charge him...

[zeichen]

If he was driving, or parking illegally, then yes it would be his fault. Or if he stopped short or didn't signal.

However it sounds like poor people putting the bite on him. However what is 10k baht for helping someone who was hurt and couldn't afford it. I guess chalk it up to a lesson learned.

[slapout]

The drivers of both vehicles should be banned from operating any motorized vehicle until their great grandchildren are old enough to take instruction from them for navigating Thalands road system..

[slapout]

The drivers of both vehicles should be banned from operating any motorized vehicle until their great grandchildren are old enough to take instruction from them for navigating Thalands road system..

[seajae]

I dont know where you are getting your rules from but if you run up the back of another car you are at fault, breaking hard? so you are suposed to run over a pedestrian that walks out in front of you so the car behind doesnt hit you, what a load of sh*t. I suggest you get a set of real road rules, not the ones the locals make up as they go. As for your friend, he is an idiot and I would be demanding she return the money and pay for his damages to the back of his car. Maybe if she was watching where she was going instead of talking on her phone or looking at her face in the mirror she would have seen him stop, it is her fault entirely. Why are some people just so gullible, maybe they need to sit IQ tests before they are allowed to come here.

[wym]

If you don't get your insurance to sort it out, most likely the local police will intermediate, and the ruling will most likely be that you have to pay something.

The actual rules/laws here are definitely NOT the same as in the west (rear-end always the back person's fault).

But the bigger point is that rarely do those rules/laws dictate the settlement, usually based more on who has more money and who does the local cop favor.

[whoisyourdaddy]

If he was driving, or parking illegally, then yes it would be his fault. Or if he stopped short or didn't signal.

However it sounds like poor people putting the bite on him. However what is 10k baht for helping someone who was hurt and couldn't afford it. I guess chalk it up to a lesson learned.

Nonsense.

IF i park or stop in the middle of the road, there is no law on this planet which gives green light to other vehicles to hit me and hold me responsible

[zeichen]

"IF i park or stop in the middle of the road, there is no law on this planet which gives green light to other vehicles to hit me and hold me responsible"

You are definitely not a police officer or a lawyer. Because in fact if you do something illegal while in a vehicle and there is an accident you are at fault. If someone crashes into you but you are driving a car that is not registered, drunk driving, or don't have a license, you are at fault.

[wym]

Nonsense.

IF i park or stop in the middle of the road, there is no law on this planet which gives green light to other vehicles to hit me and hold me responsible

That may well be the case back home, definitely not here.

And as I said it isn't "the law" as written that determines the outcome, most of the time it's a negotiation overseen by the local BiB, they have the last say, usually not worth spending even more money on lawyers than the amount involved and tying up the courts.

[aveabeeror2]

Nonsense.

IF i park or stop in the middle of the road, there is no law on this planet which gives green light to other vehicles to hit me and hold me responsible

That may well be the case back home, definitely not here.

And as I said it isn't "the law" as written that determines the outcome, most of the time it's a negotiation overseen by the local BiB, they have the last say, usually not worth spending even more money on lawyers than the amount involved and tying up the courts.

"Definitly not here".More garbage.

[evadgib]

I believe there may be a problem if parked cars are facing the wrong direction when hit but I have no idea if it's set in stone.

[inzman]

Scam! This is why you have insurance, why didn't he call the insurance guy?

[napoleon3]

Hello all.

Thank's for your comments.

I have some more details now:

He has NO insurance because his car is a 57 jears old army jeep he restored (his hobby)

It seems he can not get a all risk insurance on it.

He stays in a small town in the Udon area.

He knows now it is not really A LAW, but a custom in Thailand , and sure in the small towns.

The 10.000 bath is not a very big problem, it is more the way the "law" was forced to him.

Once more, thank you all.

napoleon3

[NanLaew]

Thanks for that update napoleon. It explains the whole scenario quite well, although 10,000 baht would have been twice the amount that I would have been prepared to pay if i had been in the EXACT same situation, without insurance, etc.. Your friends mistake was to go check on the 'accident' victim the next day. It should have been settled at the point and time of impact, so to speak. I would have given them 5000 baht and said if you want more, they need to bring the hospital bill and bike repair bill (if any) TO ME if more money is needed. They would have likely settled at that. Agreeing or indicating that he had a concern for the lady motorcycle (bad) driver and going to see her or her family set him up for being gouged.

The family coerced your friend after the fact, saying that 10,000 would get the 'charges' dropped. Assuming the police had not been involved at the time of the incident (they are not mentioned at all), there would have been NO charges placed at that time. In this scenarios, I would have asked for the lady's hospital bill and any bike repair bill and be fully prepared to pay ONLY an amount that covered both.

However, if your friend is one of only a few farangs in an Isaan village, it should close the matter and there should be no repercussions. However, he has been a rather easy take and he needs to be aware of being tagged as such in future vehicular jousts.

[I Like Thai]

It sounds like a scam or misunderstanting.

Just thinking outside the box here.

Did the friend park in a no parking zone?

I recall a year or more back where someone in Phuket ended up in a lot of trouble.

He had parked in a no parking zone and a person died when they ran into the back of his parked car.

Thank you,

According his story, he just stopped to open his gate, I do not know if he put his warning lights, it was abouth 06.00pm, so not dark yet.

What part of Thailand was this ?

[napoleon3]

Thanks for that update napoleon. It explains the whole scenario quite well, although 10,000 baht would have been twice the amount that I would have been prepared to pay if i had been in the EXACT same situation, without insurance, etc.. Your friends mistake was to go check on the 'accident' victim the next day. It should have been settled at the point and time of impact, so to speak. I would have given them 5000 baht and said if you want more, they need to bring the hospital bill and bike repair bill (if any) TO ME if more money is needed. They would have likely settled at that. Agreeing or indicating that he had a concern for the lady motorcycle (bad) driver and going to see her or her family set him up for being gouged.

The family coerced your friend after the fact, saying that 10,000 would get the 'charges' dropped. Assuming the police had not been involved at the time of the incident (they are not mentioned at all), there would have been NO charges placed at that time. In this scenarios, I would have asked for the lady's hospital bill and any bike repair bill and be fully prepared to pay ONLY an amount that covered both.

However, if your friend is one of only a few farangs in an Isaan village, it should close the matter and there should be no repercussions. However, he has been a rather easy take and he needs to be aware of being tagged as such in future vehicular jousts.

Hello NanLaew

No problem.

The 2 reasons why he did not call police :

First, the lady was bleeding and he did not want to loose any time.

Second : Not having insurance, he was a little afraid to get problems and have to pay a fine .

He is , indeed, one off the only farangs in the village, and does not want to make people angry at him.

I suppose his mail to me, was rather out off frustration because he had to pay, even dooing nothing wrong.

The 10.000 covers the transport to hospital, hospital treatment and dammage to the bike.

Thank's again

napoleon3

[napoleon3]

It sounds like a scam or misunderstanting.

Just thinking outside the box here.

Did the friend park in a no parking zone?

I recall a year or more back where someone in Phuket ended up in a lot of trouble.

He had parked in a no parking zone and a person died when they ran into the back of his parked car.

Thank you,

According his story, he just stopped to open his gate, I do not know if he put his warning lights, it was abouth 06.00pm, so not dark yet.

What part of Thailand was this ?

It is a small place in the Udon aerea, I don't know exactly.

[Fookhaht]

It's not the law, but it's common practice in Thailand to settle rear-enders this way.

When I was once rear-ended, I was pressured by both a kangaroo court (gathered crowd) and the police to pay the one who rear-ended me.

Dorothy, you're not in Kansas anymore, which may come as a real surprise to many of you.