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Sounds very suspicious, given her profile , having a hairdo so close to an anti -gov protest.... She,s up to no good..

What are you talking about? She went shopping and had a hair cut! Nobody should be dragged off the street going about there daily business.

Dribble....

Would be interesting to know if that was the young lady's first visit to that particular salon. Do you know what 'shill' means?

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Yes, very true. But this is Thailand, the land of 'who needs laws?' and 'do first, think later'.

If she had carried a copy of your post and showed it to the guards (if they could read English), I'm sure they would've let her go. You think?

Assuming you have rights yet are a public figure for a group that is being protested against, you would think to be a bit more strategic in where you go for your beauty appointment.

Shopping at the Emporium is a little close to the fire as well (Pojaman!).

I agree that the law is not goldstar material over here.

But to be truly alive means you have principles, and my principle on this issue is we have the right to browse shops in public areas without being captured by random mobs etc. This principle is echoed under humanitarian law, under your right to not be held against your will while going about your law-abiding activities (f.ex. shopping).

As for the location, I would say any normal public shopping area is within your rights, without it being a calculated risk. If you go downtown in some cities, into a sleazy back alley and poke around in in some of those less regulated areas, then yes you are certainly taking a risk by choice. But to go to any normal or upmarket shopping area, means you should not be attacked in any way, and if you are then it is your attackers who are guilty of breaching your basic human rights.

Very true again in principle but there is absolutely no protection from mall security let alone police. It's a new definition of 'buyer beware'.

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Tomorrow, she'll reinvent the story and add more details. Let's see the scratches and bruises and/or some evidence; at least some CCTV; otherwise put a lid on it Ms., if you're thick enough to go near the zone knowing full wel the opposition is there.

There are a lot of drama queens on here exaggerating the story as well.

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The brave Thai pack mentality, it takes b/w 10 and 20 men to intimidate, harass and assault one lone woman. Cowards and scum that is all they are..

Of course we only have her word that she was harrassed, assaulted etc. And seeing she is a PTP member, we can't really call her unbiased can we? biggrin.png

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It's miserable how some poster here refers to others like a baby at playschool.

"Yes she was detained, but protesters were killed and harmed"...

What the hell is that about? We are in 2014 not in 214!!!!

I wish everyone was using their brains and condemn a cowardly act like detain an innocent lady and intimidate her without any right to do so.

If you approve what happen, don't ever complain if your wife, daughter, sister will be harassed once she will be shopping in a central area of Bangkok. NO DOUBLE STANDARDS!

All the episodes of violence must be condemned, and this is a deprivation of freedom. Whichever side you are on, cannot condone what happened or even make her guilty to be in that area!

I am totally disgusted of some posters here, misogynist, primitive and out of civil thoughts.

Imagine if it was the other way around; just think, 2010 in the CBD/Sukhumvit area of BKK, and a well-known democrat stepped near the red zone. Wouldn't even come out alive. You're blowing this out of proportion. As smart of her to do this as to go into a high crime zone area late at night alone with designer bags and golden jewelry; if you ask for it, you just might get it. A little common sense goes a long way.

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It's miserable how some poster here refers to others like a baby at playschool.

"Yes she was detained, but protesters were killed and harmed"...

What the hell is that about? We are in 2014 not in 214!!!!

I wish everyone was using their brains and condemn a cowardly act like detain an innocent lady and intimidate her without any right to do so.

If you approve what happen, don't ever complain if your wife, daughter, sister will be harassed once she will be shopping in a central area of Bangkok. NO DOUBLE STANDARDS!

All the episodes of violence must be condemned, and this is a deprivation of freedom. Whichever side you are on, cannot condone what happened or even make her guilty to be in that area!

I am totally disgusted of some posters here, misogynist, primitive and out of civil thoughts.

I agree with you

I would never allow any member of my family to shop in this area although we normally do

because we are sensible enough to understand we would be putting our selves in danger

we also do not drive on Thai roads when drunk or during public holidays

even we re allowed to do so

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It's miserable how some poster here refers to others like a baby at playschool.

"Yes she was detained, but protesters were killed and harmed"...

What the hell is that about? We are in 2014 not in 214!!!!

I wish everyone was using their brains and condemn a cowardly act like detain an innocent lady and intimidate her without any right to do so.

If you approve what happen, don't ever complain if your wife, daughter, sister will be harassed once she will be shopping in a central area of Bangkok. NO DOUBLE STANDARDS!

All the episodes of violence must be condemned, and this is a deprivation of freedom. Whichever side you are on, cannot condone what happened or even make her guilty to be in that area!

I am totally disgusted of some posters here, misogynist, primitive and out of civil thoughts.

Imagine if it was the other way around; just think, 2010 in the CBD/Sukhumvit area of BKK, and a well-known democrat stepped near the red zone. Wouldn't even come out alive. You're blowing this out of proportion. As smart of her to do this as to go into a high crime zone area late at night alone with designer bags and golden jewelry; if you ask for it, you just might get it. A little common sense goes a long way.

She was out of protest area. Full stop.

And I don't care what would have happened back in 2010, because I condemned and damned every single violent action back then as now.

To detain and harass any free citizen is a violent act. You not agree?

I wish for you will never happen to someone close to you, then I am sure you will change your mind.

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At this point, I don't know who is lying..... sure, they should not have harassed her.... most would say that was not right, BUT.... why was she in the anti-government hot zone?

Either she was spying and up to no good or she is an idiot.

There are plenty of beauty salons in Bangkok and you have to be brain dead to go to Ratchaprasong, and WALK THROUGH their protest areas on top of that....

Or perhaps she is an imbecile and a spy.... which is most likely the case.

You got what is coming to you, you idiot Sunisa. Now shut up before you start putting more shame on yourself, your family and your cause.

Your not serious are you? Regardless of wether you like the lady she is still a woman and just going to the hairdressers doesn't mean a woman deserves to be assaulted and harassed by a gang of cowardly scum thugs. If these guys were split into pairs they would probably start wetting their pants if they had to go after a lone woman.

Whilst I agree with you on principle, that she is entitled to the full protection of law as any other citizen is when going about her business, the choice of venue is strange,

She occupies a privileged position in the caretaker government's hierarchy and as such is privy to much more information than most citizens yet still chooses to visit a place that puts herself under risk. Why do this?

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At this point, I don't know who is lying..... sure, they should not have harassed her.... most would say that was not right, BUT.... why was she in the anti-government hot zone?

Either she was spying and up to no good or she is an idiot.

There are plenty of beauty salons in Bangkok and you have to be brain dead to go to Ratchaprasong, and WALK THROUGH their protest areas on top of that....

Or perhaps she is an imbecile and a spy.... which is most likely the case.

You got what is coming to you, you idiot Sunisa. Now shut up before you start putting more shame on yourself, your family and your cause.

"sure, they should not have harassed her... most would say that was not right BUT..."

"You got what is coming to you, you idiot Sunisa."

And here was I thinking that a person has the freedom and right to go shopping where and when you like,,,

Accept when you are not a person that Suthep likes cause if you do "you got what is coming to you, you idiot"

I wonder just how many KIDKNAPPING'S have these guy's done but have not made headlines as they are not a high profile person???

arrest all the people involved in this Kidnapping or is it legal now as Suthep has been telling people to do it now for weeks...

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Sounds very suspicious, given her profile , having a hairdo so close to an anti -gov protest.... She,s up to no good..

Good thing you guys cant vote.

regardless of your opinion , she has the right to walk the streets of her country with out being kidnaped, illegally detained, questioned, and harassed.

You might like to note that she has a somewhat 'interesting' history. Google her name and see for yourself.

It was also revealed in one of the other English language press releases that Sunisa had deliberately staged the entire thing.

It was actually ThaiPBS and was accompanied by a 1 minute video of her being interviewed by the guards who were speaking very respectfully with her, and she was replying quite rudely, although they seemed to be getting on OK with a lot of smiling etc coming from Sunisa who looked a picture of relaxation.

She had allegedly phoned a reporter to meet her at the salon, when the guy arrived, she then went to mock protesters by asking them why they were being stupid by following the PDRC, and obviously got the desired response of jeering and whistle blowing, this is what brought the guards over and she was escorted away for her own safety.

After she was questioned she was released to her vehicle after a phone call to a rally leader.

The news article has now been deleted along with the video, and I can only assume that ThaiPBS have been told to remove it under the media censorship ability of the CMPO probably because it was very revealing and backed up by video which goes completely against what this stupid bitch is coming out with.

For those of you who are coming out with crap about PDRC guard violent thugs and this an act of violence... God only knows what you think of the red shirts and infants being blown to pieces would be on your scale.

I agree with all those who say that she being a PTP spokesperson (attached to their PR office) it is not logical to choose to be doing her business in the heart of an opposition rally site, especially where people have been killed by sporadic terrorist attacks that can happen anywhere and at any time.

The area is highly sensitive and a tricky place even for neutrals let alone someone who would be considered being from the enemy camp. Neither do I think she was doing this to exercise her right to walk anywhere as a Thai citizen, that would clearly show her stupidity to the highest degree.

You could liken it to a leading Democrat spokesperson wandering into a very sensitive red shirt demo area, what would have been the result? I would think it would start with gang rape, and end in brutal murder and burning.

Such is the contrast between the PDRC and the UDD Red Shirts.

But what is more disturbing is that the media is being totally manipulated by the CMPO and PTT so we get very scant facts released and this will continue and the red camp will seize on all this manipulated news, and people will get angry and possibly search for revenge, and more people die as a result. The CMPO is keeping the tension UP as a result, and should be dissolved.

Which English language paper was that? I would like to read it and see the video as it may clear up a few arguments on here.

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At this point, I don't know who is lying..... sure, they should not have harassed her.... most would say that was not right, BUT.... why was she in the anti-government hot zone?

Either she was spying and up to no good or she is an idiot.

There are plenty of beauty salons in Bangkok and you have to be brain dead to go to Ratchaprasong, and WALK THROUGH their protest areas on top of that....

Or perhaps she is an imbecile and a spy.... which is most likely the case.

You got what is coming to you, you idiot Sunisa. Now shut up before you start putting more shame on yourself, your family and your cause.

"sure, they should not have harassed her... most would say that was not right BUT..."

"You got what is coming to you, you idiot Sunisa."

And here was I thinking that a person has the freedom and right to go shopping where and when you like,,,

Accept when you are not a person that Suthep likes cause if you do "you got what is coming to you, you idiot"

I wonder just how many KIDKNAPPING'S have these guy's done but have not made headlines as they are not a high profile person???

arrest all the people involved in this Kidnapping or is it legal now as Suthep has been telling people to do it now for weeks...

Please use your common sense when going shopping.

If you are a red shirt, please avoid shopping in Terminal 21, Central Chitlom, Central World, Paragon, Siam Center, Siam Square, MBK etc; because these area are rightly (by order of the court) occupied by the yellow shirt.

If you are a yellow short, try to avoid Imperial LadPrao, etc.

Else, as may people here say, you may be asking for it.

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My wife is a Thai citizen, and she has enough brains not to dress sexy and walk into a bar full of Thai man drinking Issan Whisky

Even it is her right

Proving is you play with fire you will most likely get burned

Kikoman

Kindly document where the Woman in the article "dressed sexy and walked into a bar full of Thai men drinking issan whiskey".

Or are you saying she doesn't have the right to walk in a area open to the public in her own country, without being attacked by a bunch of Bangkok Thugs!!

Cheers

How can I document something I never said

My reference was to how stupid it would be if I walk the streets in gold or my thai wife walk into a bad area wearing sexy clothes

I am saying you get what you put your self into

ever day guys are ripped of by Thai ladies

people are ripped of by jet ski operators

guys are drugged by lady boys

This is Thailand and they all had rights, but used no comonsense so got into trouble

she made her choice and walked into a spiders web

She made the decision and there for made her own reprocussions

now she and all you other people who think you not need to be responsible for your actions

must pay the price for your decisions

stop blaming others when it was yourself that placed yourself in the wrong place at the wrong time

How much common sense would it take for her to go about her personal business where ever she chooses in broad daylight in the middle of Bangkok.

Sure those sex tourist get ripe off by Bar girls and ladyboys, unsuspecting tourist get get ripped off by jet ski operators.

That has nothing to do with a Thai lady's decision to take care of her personal business in Bangkok, in a good neighborhood in broad daylight,

Maybe you may feel different if that was your wife, daughter, sister or mother, which ever way you look at it it is a criminal's action!

Cheers

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the whole incident just shows how many dire mistakes are being made on both sides.

now sunisa and friends are using it purely as spin.

given the situation she should not have been there, just as they should not have held her.

everything else is hearsay.

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Sounds very suspicious, given her profile , having a hairdo so close to an anti -gov protest.... She,s up to no good..

Good thing you guys cant vote.

regardless of your opinion , she has the right to walk the streets of her country with out being kidnaped, illegally detained, questioned, and harassed.

I also have the right to walk down the beach in Pattaya covered in Gold, using 1000 baht Thai notes to pay for trinkets along the way

this is my right as a person who live here long time and supports a Thai family

But I do not

Because I have a brain and know what will happen if I do this

I believe we all must except the responsibility for things we do and the reaction upon us if we are stupid

But there are many who believe they are victims of others and cry when their stupidity opens them up to harm

Some people are intimidated more easily than others. I guess we all know which side of the scale you fall on.

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chooka, on 27 Feb 2014 - 10:12, said:
thaivapor, on 27 Feb 2014 - 10:01, said:

It was also revealed in one of the other English language press releases that Sunisa had deliberately staged the entire thing.

It was actually ThaiPBS and was accompanied by a 1 minute video of her being interviewed by the guards who were speaking very respectfully with her, and she was replying quite rudely, although they seemed to be getting on OK with a lot of smiling etc coming from Sunisa who looked a picture of relaxation.

She had allegedly phoned a reporter to meet her at the salon, when the guy arrived, she then went to mock protesters by asking them why they were being stupid by following the PDRC, and obviously got the desired response of jeering and whistle blowing, this is what brought the guards over and she was escorted away for her own safety.

After she was questioned she was released to her vehicle after a phone call to a rally leader.

The news article has now been deleted along with the video, and I can only assume that ThaiPBS have been told to remove it under the media censorship ability of the CMPO probably because it was very revealing and backed up by video which goes completely against what this stupid bitch is coming out with.

For those of you who are coming out with crap about PDRC guard violent thugs and this an act of violence... God only knows what you think of the red shirts and infants being blown to pieces would be on your scale.

I agree with all those who say that she being a PTP spokesperson (attached to their PR office) it is not logical to choose to be doing her business in the heart of an opposition rally site, especially where people have been killed by sporadic terrorist attacks that can happen anywhere and at any time.

The area is highly sensitive and a tricky place even for neutrals let alone someone who would be considered being from the enemy camp. Neither do I think she was doing this to exercise her right to walk anywhere as a Thai citizen, that would clearly show her stupidity to the highest degree.

You could liken it to a leading Democrat spokesperson wandering into a very sensitive red shirt demo area, what would have been the result? I would think it would start with gang rape, and end in brutal murder and burning.

Such is the contrast between the PDRC and the UDD Red Shirts.

But what is more disturbing is that the media is being totally manipulated by the CMPO and PTT so we get very scant facts released and this will continue and the red camp will seize on all this manipulated news, and people will get angry and possibly search for revenge, and more people die as a result. The CMPO is keeping the tension UP as a result, and should be dissolved.

Which English language paper was that? I would like to read it and see the video as it may clear up a few arguments on here.

Yep, me as well. Would also like to know if the reason it was conveniently deleted, along with the video, was through censorship or because it may have been pure BS.

I have no support for either side and would like to keep an open mind.

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My wife is a Thai citizen, and she has enough brains not to dress sexy and walk into a bar full of Thai man drinking Issan Whisky

Even it is her right

Proving is you play with fire you will most likely get burned

Kikoman

Kindly document where the Woman in the article "dressed sexy and walked into a bar full of Thai men drinking issan whiskey".

Or are you saying she doesn't have the right to walk in a area open to the public in her own country, without being attacked by a bunch of Bangkok Thugs!!

Cheers

How can I document something I never said

My reference was to how stupid it would be if I walk the streets in gold or my thai wife walk into a bad area wearing sexy clothes

I am saying you get what you put your self into

ever day guys are ripped of by Thai ladies

people are ripped of by jet ski operators

guys are drugged by lady boys

This is Thailand and they all had rights, but used no comonsense so got into trouble

she made her choice and walked into a spiders web

She made the decision and there for made her own reprocussions

now she and all you other people who think you not need to be responsible for your actions

must pay the price for your decisions

stop blaming others when it was yourself that placed yourself in the wrong place at the wrong time

How much common sense would it take for her to go about her personal business where ever she chooses in broad daylight in the middle of Bangkok.

Sure those sex tourist get ripe off by Bar girls and ladyboys, unsuspecting tourist get get ripped off by jet ski operators.

That has nothing to do with a Thai lady's decision to take care of her personal business in Bangkok, in a good neighborhood in broad daylight,

Maybe you may feel different if that was your wife, daughter, sister or mother, which ever way you look at it it is a criminal's action!

Cheers

"She made the decision and there for made her own reprocussions"

I suppose any girl in Thailand wearing a mini skirt deserve to be raped. I don't think so.

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She has the constitutional right to be any where in her country, that is opened to all citizens. Careful because this can become the wave of the future and should be a warning to all peace loving people.

Since when has forcefully detaining a young , good looking women and harassing her sexually been OK ?No matter who side one is on!

Interesting to say the least Two navy seal arrested and admitted being employed by the PDRC, It makes one question the neutrality of the military's involvement in the current problems!

Cheers

hahahahaha, thats a quick turn around, the other day you were saying that any protesters that showed up in red territory deserved to be harrassed/shot etc. Seems you are just a tad of a hypocrite with your views, everyone is allowed anywhere in Thailand except for pcad members/non reds in the north.

cheers old chap

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Indeed, in the annals of sinister occurences in human history, her horrifying ordeal ranks somewhere between the gassing of millions of Jews and the thousands murdered in Bosnian ethnic cleansing.

On a more stable basis, what hapened to her was wrong, but it doesn't need hyperbolic exaggeration.

I agree with you that it was wrong!

You may fail to understand that Germany, Bosnia, Rowanda, Cambodia among other crime against humanity began by denying the victim their basic civil rights as citizens of their country,

I remember a time past when a Farang was attacked by security guards on the sky train because of balloons, and how many tv members were upset because that was deemed to be denying him his basic rights, But now that it happened to a Thai lady associated to the government, she is deemed by many of those same Farang's as not having a basic right to do her own personal business, unmolested!

Cheers

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In the video, the male guard try to get her into a "covered" van.

She refuse, saying that it is dangerous for her to go with them in a "covered" van.

Good thing that she refuse, else I fear that there could be a chances of her been gang rape by the guards, as journalist are not allow to even knowledge of per capture.

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It's also available on the web page of the other newspaper but curiosly not available to The Nation.

Also more details on the Navy Seals - looks like the Navy has finally admitted they are serving personnel and will be "investigated" and possibly dismissed from the Navy, mmm,we'll see (actually we probably won't hear anything more). Even the Navy Seals Commander has been told to shut up to avoid inflaming the situation further.

Shame, I'll miss the reports of cambodian invasion teams in stealth vans.

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The guards in this intersection is known to be thugs. There have been a few articles in the newspapers about it. They have beaten up and robbed people there. Two times have I witnessed it. I live very close and walk there every day. Sometimes they like to frisk people. And if you don't like that you are in trouble. And they liked to frisk two young tourist farang girls last week. And we all know what that was about. Me and my friend watched when they beat up and robbed a Thai man last month. They took his phone and money. Next day it was about it in the newspaper

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Sounds very suspicious, given her profile , having a hairdo so close to an anti -gov protest.... She,s up to no good..

Good thing you guys cant vote.

regardless of your opinion , she has the right to walk the streets of her country with out being kidnaped, illegally detained, questioned, and harassed.

I also have the right to walk down the beach in Pattaya covered in Gold, using 1000 baht Thai notes to pay for trinkets along the way

this is my right as a person who live here long time and supports a Thai family

But I do not

Because I have a brain and know what will happen if I do this

I believe we all must except the responsibility for things we do and the reaction upon us if we are stupid

But there are many who believe they are victims of others and cry when their stupidity opens them up to harm

But you have the right to choose what you do even as a "Visitor" to Thailand! She has the full rights of all Thai citizens!

Cheers

Thai children also have rights to accompany their parents to the markets and shopping areas without the fear of being bombed and killed by some deranged red shirt/UDD supporters. Don't you think?

This particular woman has no shame. Her job is to make up stories. Those guys probably did her a favour by taking her away from other protesters. After the side you support killed innocent children, emotions are running high. No need to provoke grieving people further.

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Like many have said, anyone has the right to be anywhere they want to be in Thailand without being harassed, that is their choice. But I wonder if any of the incidents such as this one is being conducted by the same group in order to cause blame to other groups! Almost all of the incidents occurring at this time have one weapon in common and that is the M79 grenades, please correct me if I'm wrong, but are the M79 grenades so readily available to everyone?

It is hard to distinguish what group does any of the these attackers belongs to. I just hope that these violent moves stop, there is no need for any bloodshed.

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How much common sense would it take for her to go about her personal business where ever she chooses in broad daylight in the middle of Bangkok.

Sure those sex tourist get ripe off by Bar girls and ladyboys, unsuspecting tourist get get ripped off by jet ski operators.

That has nothing to do with a Thai lady's decision to take care of her personal business in Bangkok, in a good neighborhood in broad daylight,

Maybe you may feel different if that was your wife, daughter, sister or mother, which ever way you look at it it is a criminal's action!

Cheers

Guy walks into a known minefield (Bangkok) and had both legs blown off. Do I feel sorry for him? No, he was an idiot to walk into a known minefield.

I really don't know where you get these remarks from that you post, because it does not come from (even) some facet of rationality.

I feel I am becoming lost for word now... In all my born days I have never ever come up against someone who can speak such words of wisdom and knowledge in one breath while in the next totally abrogate the wisdom and knowledge previously held.

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Sounds very suspicious, given her profile , having a hairdo so close to an anti -gov protest.... She,s up to no good..

Good thing you guys cant vote.

regardless of your opinion , she has the right to walk the streets of her country with out being kidnaped, illegally detained, questioned, and harassed.

You might like to note that she has a somewhat 'interesting' history. Google her name and see for yourself.

If you like to read interesting history, google Suthep or Abhisit name, a lot more interesting and factual!

Cheers

Lol, if you are retired and have years of time to fill, google Taksin.

If you want to understand the origins of armed violence by Thai citizenry, google Seh Daeng. MHRIP.

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My wife is a Thai citizen, and she has enough brains not to dress sexy and walk into a bar full of Thai man drinking Issan Whisky

Even it is her right

Proving is you play with fire you will most likely get burned

Kikoman

Kindly document where the Woman in the article "dressed sexy and walked into a bar full of Thai men drinking issan whiskey".

Or are you saying she doesn't have the right to walk in a area open to the public in her own country, without being attacked by a bunch of Bangkok Thugs!!

Cheers

How can I document something I never said

My reference was to how stupid it would be if I walk the streets in gold or my thai wife walk into a bad area wearing sexy clothes

I am saying you get what you put your self into

ever day guys are ripped of by Thai ladies

people are ripped of by jet ski operators

guys are drugged by lady boys

This is Thailand and they all had rights, but used no comonsense so got into trouble

she made her choice and walked into a spiders web

She made the decision and there for made her own reprocussions

now she and all you other people who think you not need to be responsible for your actions

must pay the price for your decisions

stop blaming others when it was yourself that placed yourself in the wrong place at the wrong time

How much common sense would it take for her to go about her personal business where ever she chooses in broad daylight in the middle of Bangkok.

Sure those sex tourist get ripe off by Bar girls and ladyboys, unsuspecting tourist get get ripped off by jet ski operators.

That has nothing to do with a Thai lady's decision to take care of her personal business in Bangkok, in a good neighborhood in broad daylight,

Maybe you may feel different if that was your wife, daughter, sister or mother, which ever way you look at it it is a criminal's action!

Cheers

"She made the decision and there for made her own reprocussions"

I suppose any girl in Thailand wearing a mini skirt deserve to be raped. I don't think so.

What has a mini skirt and rape have to do with her taking care of her business at 11:00 am in the morning in Bangkok?

I did not read anything about what she was wearing or any other criminal act other then that I would classify as kidnapping in the article!

Sorry, I could not see the intent of your post!

Cheers

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