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[Sing_Sling]

Please, lets not let this thread turn into flaming and name calling.

cv

Bit late for that, it seems

[cdnvic]

Please, lets not let this thread turn into flaming and name calling.

cv

Bit late for that, it seems

Well lets just say that after this point, the next one who starts it up is in big trouble.

Now be nice.

cv

[Sing_Sling]

I really don't see why, and I am seemingly repeating someone else' post here, this idea has created so much acrimony - - - do people see it as a threat?

Words are being bandied about, people insulted and all for . . . what?

Is it so difficult for some to accept that several people feel like seriously discussing certain topics without the inclusion of 'Duh . . . .', ' ' or other invective?

I like delivering one-liners as much as the next person, but don't feel the need to all the time. I don't think this idea will actually take off or work, simply due to the restrictions that would have to be imposed, which are anathema to open discussion anyway.

Edited June 8, 2006 by Sing_Sling

[ROFL]

I really don't see why, and I am seemingly repeating someone else' post here, this idea has created so much acrimony - - - do people see it as a threat?

Words are being bandied about, people insulted and all for . . . what?

Is it so difficult for some to accept that several people feel like seriously discussing certain topics without the inclusion of 'Duh . . . .', ' ' or other invective?

I like delivering one-liners as much as the next person, but don't feel the need to all the time. I don't think this idea will actually take off or work, simply due to the restrictions that would have to be imposed, which are anathema to open discussion anyway.

Umberto Eco wanna be^^^^

[ProfessorFart]

I guess at the end of the day if its highbrow you want then just post highbrow topics.

Chances are that we lesser beings will leave well alone anyway and leave you intellectual behemoths to slug it out!

Edited June 8, 2006 by ProfessorFart

[Ulysses G.]

we lesser beings will leave well alone anyway and leave you intellectual behemoths to slug it out!

Stupendous use of your under-developed cerebral facilities, lower one.

Edited June 8, 2006 by Ulysses G.

[Sing_Sling]

I really don't see why, and I am seemingly repeating someone else' post here, this idea has created so much acrimony - - - do people see it as a threat?

Words are being bandied about, people insulted and all for . . . what?

Is it so difficult for some to accept that several people feel like seriously discussing certain topics without the inclusion of 'Duh . . . .', ' ' or other invective?

I like delivering one-liners as much as the next person, but don't feel the need to all the time. I don't think this idea will actually take off or work, simply due to the restrictions that would have to be imposed, which are anathema to open discussion anyway.

Umberto Eco wanna be^^^^

. . . and didn't even need to use a dictionary or thesaurus . . . amazing what a good education can do . . .

Sorry, I'll write monosyllabic next time - or I can write really slowly for you.

I am neither an intellectual nor highbrow, I just believe it would be nice to be able to stay on topic at times.

If you find that funny or worth demeaning . . . go for it.

[Noel]

Should there be an area inside this board that is used for academic discussion. Where comments need to be supported and thought shown. Anyone breaching the above points gets warned and banned from that area? Could it be done or should it be done?

The very notion smacks of a schoolmaster mentality, whereby people can only function if there are hard and fast rules laid down to create a strictly disciplined environment prohibiting contention.

Such a potentially authoritarian set up would almost certainly lend itself to stifling open discussion and lively debate, in my opinion, posters being fearful of being given lines or put in detention.

I would hate to be stuck in a lift with any wannabe elitist who would want to be part of such a supercilious clique…

[Plus]

Academics can discuss their academic subjects on their academic forums.

Mods can easily set up "Thai studies" forum or "Thai marine life" forum them as long as there's a common area of interest.

What would this newly proposed forum would be about? What would it be called? So far people look for "No one-liners forum", or "Heavily moderated forum", or "No stupid people" forum.

As long as it's got nothing positive to unite people around it's doomed. It will be empty in a day. It's vapour.

Then there's a question of quality - some of the posters here grossly overrate their "serious" contributions. They might not pass the entry test to their forum themselves!

[Noel]

What would this newly proposed forum would be about? What would it be called? So far people look for "No one-liners forum", or "Heavily moderated forum", or "No stupid people" forum.

Hmmm, 'The Ivory Tower' or the 'Mass Debaters' forum could also work...

[Totster]

What would this newly proposed forum would be about? What would it be called? So far people look for "No one-liners forum", or "Heavily moderated forum", or "No stupid people" forum.

Hmmm, 'The Ivory Tower' or the 'Mass Debaters' forum could also work...

Ooo.. sounds really exciting...

totster

[Plus]

The Ivory Tower' or the 'Mass Debaters' forum could also work...

Not it wouldn't, unless we get a dozen posters discussing debating skills.

The truth is that if you got something serious and important to say, you'll find the audience. There are no flaming problems or one-liners in Thai Language or Computers forums - "idiots" don't even go there.

At the moment it appears that people are asking for forum where they can demand respect they don't deserve otherwise.

[ColPyat]

At the moment it appears that people are asking for forum where they can demand respect they don't deserve otherwise.

Actually, no.

I am asking for a forum where people who do serious research can pool their knowledge and expertise in a way that it can benefit their work.

There are many posters here whose knowledge and research is inspiring, to say the least.

Naturally this does somehow fall below the radar due to the different expectations people have from a forum such as this. Some posters may only want to relax, wind down and have some fun, which is fair enough and a more than valid reason to post here. But that can somehow clash with people who would like to exchange certain parts of their research, would like to fill gaps in their knowledge.

[jdinasia]

I concur Plus ....

[Noel]

The Ivory Tower' or the 'Mass Debaters' forum could also work...

Not it wouldn't, unless we get a dozen posters discussing debating skills.

The truth is that if you got something serious and important to say, you'll find the audience. There are no flaming problems or one-liners in Thai Language or Computers forums - "idiots" don't even go there.

At the moment it appears that people are asking for forum where they can demand respect they don't deserve otherwise.

Ermm, the 'Mass Debaters' suggestion was intended to be a double entendre...

Otherwise, I do believe we actually agree.

Edited June 8, 2006 by Noel

[OldAsiaHand]

The Ivory Tower' or the 'Mass Debaters' forum could also work...

Not it wouldn't, unless we get a dozen posters discussing debating skills.

The truth is that if you got something serious and important to say, you'll find the audience. There are no flaming problems or one-liners in Thai Language or Computers forums - "idiots" don't even go there.

At the moment it appears that people are asking for forum where they can demand respect they don't deserve otherwise.

Plus, you are (yet again) dead right, in my view, a breath a fresh air in a badly polluted room.

[ovenman]

Such a potentially authoritarian set up would almost certainly lend itself to stifling open discussion and lively debate, in my opinion, posters being fearful of being given lines or put in detention.

A cynic might argue that result is the underlying goal of this entire premise.

[ProfessorFart]

I am asking for a forum where people who do serious research can pool their knowledge and expertise in a way that it can benefit their work.

Erm, do you know anyone who undertakes or discusses serious research on open internet forums?

Edited June 8, 2006 by ProfessorFart

[dukkha]

A forum with intelletual discourse...would't that remove a large percentage of posters but I support the idea wholeheartedly, hardly can get one off line let a lone some on line...go for it.. Dukkha

[Plus]

I am asking for a forum where people who do serious research can pool their knowledge and expertise in a way that it can benefit their work.

If you want to find someone here who can help you with something - just start a thread.

Serious researchers are usually found on specialised boards dedicated to their topics. If you think that there are some individuals who can contribute to your favourite board elsewhere, I don't think it's against TV policy to invite people to continue your discussion there.

On the other hand, is it possible to create groups on TV, like on Yahoo? Then people can apply to your group and you can screen them, and kick them out if you don't like them.

I don't know if it's techinically possible on this board, but it could be fun.

"Colpyat's Forum". People can read it but can't post unless authorised by you. Soon there will be competitors, long quies to join, little politics and so on and so on.

[anuaaron]

Academics can discuss their academic subjects on their academic forums.

Mods can easily set up "Thai studies" forum or "Thai marine life" forum them as long as there's a common area of interest.

What would this newly proposed forum would be about? What would it be called? So far people look for "No one-liners forum", or "Heavily moderated forum", or "No stupid people" forum.

As long as it's got nothing positive to unite people around it's doomed. It will be empty in a day. It's vapour.

Then there's a question of quality - some of the posters here grossly overrate their "serious" contributions. They might not pass the entry test to their forum themselves!

I think there is a bit of overreaction. It is not an attempt to say that "clever" people have somewhere to post. It was meant as somewhere that only referenced arguments or serious debate could be held. It may not be used often. Everyone can stay and have fun in the forum but if someone wants a academic discussion, perhaps get ideas, readings, they can use that area of the forum knowing that is what the area is devoted to. They can have perhaps a more in depth discussion which would bore the board.

I am not sure why some are going on about schoolmaster mentality, eliticism, and entry tests!

I think the whole idea is based on a simple premise that some people want to make into something bigheaded and terrible.

The oneliners, putdowns, negativity, can all still abound as per usual everywhere else in amongst the conversations on the forum.

Well at least the idea created interest

Edited June 8, 2006 by anuaaron

[Gary A]

Some posters can say more with one line than others can say with a whole page. There are some posters who take things entirely too serious. If I couldn't find a bit of humor here and there I'd be forced to waste my time elsewhere. It would appear that many, especially myself have open appointment books and our schedules are quite flexible.

[Plus]

Anuaaron, as things are standing now, you can post serios posts in dedicated forums. A few months ago a Motoring forum was created, for example, and it's a nice place to talk about cars. I wasn't the one sponsoring the idea, but I stood firmly behind it, and I'm happy the way it turned out.

What do you want to talk about? Ask mods to open a new forum if your area of interest isn't covered yet.

Otherwise, ask mods to open a special forum just for you, or gang up with Colpyat and moderate it together. If there's interest in what you say there, people will come.

[anuaaron]

Anuaaron, as things are standing now, you can post serios posts in dedicated forums. A few months ago a Motoring forum was created, for example, and it's a nice place to talk about cars. I wasn't the one sponsoring the idea, but I stood firmly behind it, and I'm happy the way it turned out.

What do you want to talk about? Ask mods to open a new forum if your area of interest isn't covered yet.

Otherwise, ask mods to open a special forum just for you, or gang up with Colpyat and moderate it together. If there's interest in what you say there, people will come.

Understood. Basically finishes of this thread Everything has been covered I reckon

[thankuverybig]

as one great french philosopher said;

"dethroned by a fart"

seriously,maybe your "serious" thread is a good idea,its just that it sounds like you want it to be too controlled.

if you wont let people use one liners or smileys,whats next,i wont be able to use the word fart.it could be a slippery,downward slope.

communism sounds like a good idea in theory,but not you get a few selfish,power minded people at the helm.

[ROFL]

At the moment it appears that people are asking for forum where they can demand respect they don't deserve otherwise.

Actually, no.

I am asking for a forum where people who do serious research can pool their knowledge and expertise in a way that it can benefit their work.

There are many posters here whose knowledge and research is inspiring, to say the least.

Naturally this does somehow fall below the radar due to the different expectations people have from a forum such as this. Some posters may only want to relax, wind down and have some fun, which is fair enough and a more than valid reason to post here. But that can somehow clash with people who would like to exchange certain parts of their research, would like to fill gaps in their knowledge.

Are you the one who was running that thread where 2 or 3 people were "seriously" trying to find a cure for Bird Flu?

[ColPyat]

I think there is a bit of overreaction. It is not an attempt to say that "clever" people have somewhere to post. It was meant as somewhere that only referenced arguments or serious debate could be held. It may not be used often. Everyone can stay and have fun in the forum but if someone wants a academic discussion, perhaps get ideas, readings, they can use that area of the forum knowing that is what the area is devoted to. They can have perhaps a more in depth discussion which would bore the board.

I am not sure why some are going on about schoolmaster mentality, eliticism, and entry tests!

I think the whole idea is based on a simple premise that some people want to make into something bigheaded and terrible.

The oneliners, putdowns, negativity, can all still abound as per usual everywhere else in amongst the conversations on the forum.

Well at least the idea created interest

Thanks, that is exactly what i have had in mind.

[Plus]

Now that the idea of what you actually want became clear, what exactly do you want moderators to do for you?

My suggestion - ask them for a special forum and moderate it yourself, or find someone to do it for you.

[ColPyat]

Now that the idea of what you actually want became clear, what exactly do you want moderators to do for you?

My suggestion - ask them for a special forum and moderate it yourself, or find someone to do it for you.

I don't know how to be a moderator, and i think that i would be too hotheaded to be a good moderator. I think that would need someone with a more even temper who does not draw as much controversy as i appear to do.

[ROFL]

I think there is a bit of overreaction. It is not an attempt to say that "clever" people have somewhere to post. It was meant as somewhere that only referenced arguments or serious debate could be held. It may not be used often. Everyone can stay and have fun in the forum but if someone wants a academic discussion, perhaps get ideas, readings, they can use that area of the forum knowing that is what the area is devoted to. They can have perhaps a more in depth discussion which would bore the board.

I am not sure why some are going on about schoolmaster mentality, eliticism, and entry tests!

I think the whole idea is based on a simple premise that some people want to make into something bigheaded and terrible.

The oneliners, putdowns, negativity, can all still abound as per usual everywhere else in amongst the conversations on the forum.

Well at least the idea created interest

Thanks, that is exactly what i have had in mind.

I'll say it one more time, there is an entire page on THAILAND at WIKIPEDIA with a decades worth of information for you to debate, discuss, and expand on.

And not a smiley to speak off on the entire site.

If you trulty wanted to debate and discuss something in an academic setting you would go there.