JRSoul Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 NACC will not let defense witnesses give evidence? <deleted>! What amazingly exculpatory evidence do you think they might provide? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon467367354 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 would anyone expect him to say anything else? of course he's going to say he's not worried lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bruce Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 NACC will not let defense witnesses give evidence? <deleted>! What amazingly exculpatory evidence do you think they might provide? looks like we will never get to know what they have to say. What other countries put the elected Prime Minister on trial and then do not let all the witnesses give testimony? Thailand has a long way to go to get freedom and Democracy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzainoz Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 of course he aint worried he will be paid unlike the farmers.. Unless he's taken the case on a contingency basis if such a thing exists here although I can't see many Thai lawyers taking that risk. If the NACC finds against YL he might not get paid and could become yet another lawyer who joins the ranks of the ' disappeared '. Hardly there is a rich family that will throw money at him because he believed in her till the end Now its time for an appeal will send you a quote and bill at the same time just need to find a calculator that has more zeros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I would be worried if I ever need a Thai lawyer! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 They should be worried but they're not. They have an army of paid red thugs on standby with the addresses of the NACC members. But intimidation won't work this time. Just have that private jet on standby, Poo. Would be good to have a rotation of aircraft SPOTTERS at Chiang Mai, collecting numbers of aircraft, especially private, or chartered. Looking up who owns them and report back. OK I know I cannot, but there are enthusiasts around. Posters interested. This lawyer is saying the same of the rest----intimidation tactics-- The Shins forever use this method. Chiang Mai is in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabruce Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 First two phrases lawyers learn in school are: - My client is innocent. - We will appeal. They say these phrases over and over and over until they become automatic statements in any trial or press release....they become like involuntary reflexes...just like breathing and blinking your eyes. Is appeal even possible? I thought that the NACC was NOT a court. If they find her guilty, don't they just pass the conclusion on to the Senate? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gp2002 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 There must be a couple of corrupt people on the NACC who will see the case his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemini81 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Why should he worry? He's paid, and the family he represents has lined their pockets, and can escape to Dubai, and have lots of armed guards protecting the little weasel who is responsible for all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godden Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 You don't buy a dog and bark yourself, utter tosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchisaan Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 NACC will not let defense witnesses give evidence? ! What amazingly exculpatory evidence do you think they might provide? looks like we will never get to know what they have to say. What other countries put the elected Prime Minister on trial and then do not let all the witnesses give testimony? Thailand has a long way to go to get freedom and Democracy. Well for once I agree with something you write.Thailand has a long way to go to get freedom and democracy.But the Thai people have started this process by demonstrating against this corrupt goverment and the red shirts are helping them to show of how the realy are. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Yim Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Let this play out. We have had to endure 6 months of your yellow friends and their armed thugs holding Thailand to ransom. If the Courts decide that this attempt to removed a legitimate government and grab power is ok, fine. But allow the pro government supporters on to the streets of Bangkok to carry their protests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 of course he aint worried he will be paid unlike the farmers.. And if she is convicted he will get paid more for appeals. Also if all the appeals are lost he won't have to go to jail with his client. Lawyers never lose. Lawyers & Doctors bury their mistakes. Literally, where there is (still) capital punsishment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulekee Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I see it reported that Kitterat gave the NACC 60 pages of evidence. I have to assume that coming from the minister of finance involved with the scheme that the 60 pages would be a full and accurate accounting of the scheme audit by independent auditors showing that there was absolutely no corruption involved. That would be the ultimate defense which would account for the lawyers lack of worry and certainty that they would find in Yinglucks favor. But then again if she is found not guilty he will be out of a job while a guilty verdict will mean he can continue defending her through the next step of the proceedings and keep charging all those exorbitant fees. (Paid by the tax payer ?) Nacc toilet bum gun was broken so the 60 pages came in handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 NACC will not let defense witnesses give evidence? <deleted>! What amazingly exculpatory evidence do you think they might provide? looks like we will never get to know what they have to say. What other countries put the elected Prime Minister on trial and then do not let all the witnesses give testimony? Thailand has a long way to go to get freedom and Democracy. Well, for Freeedom & democracdy, PTP have got it sorted. For freedom, stay out of the country & you don't go to jail. Democracy? Just invent your own interpretation & organize an army of bully boys to invade anywhere including airport departure lounges to try to throw faeces at anyone they think may have offended them. Violence, the language of the in-articulate!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 They should be worried but they're not. They have an army of paid red thugs on standby with the addresses of the NACC members. But intimidation won't work this time. Just have that private jet on standby, Poo. Would be good to have a rotation of aircraft SPOTTERS at Chiang Mai, collecting numbers of aircraft, especially private, or chartered. Looking up who owns them and report back. OK I know I cannot, but there are enthusiasts around. Posters interested. This lawyer is saying the same of the rest----intimidation tactics-- The Shins forever use this method. Chiang Mai is in Thailand. And you want to tell me BKK is also here or Pattaya, what are you on about.?? can you explain, did I give any indication it wasn't ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 It's like a Thai soap opera,every day a new twist to the comedy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Let this play out. We have had to endure 6 months of your yellow friends and their armed thugs holding Thailand to ransom. If the Courts decide that this attempt to removed a legitimate government and grab power is ok, fine. But allow the pro government supporters on to the streets of Bangkok to carry their protests. Yellows went out with the ark, armed thugs--I think I've heard that one before. legitimate government, then for 3 years illegitimate. Change the needle you have to do with them 78 records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) Let this play out. We have had to endure 6 months of your yellow friends and their armed thugs holding Thailand to ransom. If the Courts decide that this attempt to removed a legitimate government and grab power is ok, fine. But allow the pro government supporters on to the streets of Bangkok to carry their protests. If they are peaceful, why not? But you did mrention armed thugs in passing (If I remember correctly, you frequently do.) I would respectfully advise you to examine the incidences of political armed thuiggery resulting in death or injury over the last 4 months. (No need to go back to 2010 when the "the boys came to town" last time) See if you can work out which side are more inclined to use "armed thuggery." I promise you it won't be hard. PTP have soured their own voter support, over most of the country except the hard core N/NE reds (and their red trolls of course, most of whom are NOT voters). Edited April 21, 2014 by The Deerhunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggt Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Lawyers...seldom worry about any case...the case is often decided before the trial...either way...they get paid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> NACC will not let defense witnesses give evidence? <deleted>! How many do you think should be allowed to stand up and repeat: 'she's a nice girl', 'she has a masters degree so she must be good', 'she is the protector of democracy', and 'she tried her best'? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amse Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Just another bluff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcb2001 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 NACC will not let defense witnesses give evidence? <deleted>! NACC is a commission, not a court. Different rules apply. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcb2001 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Let this play out. We have had to endure 6 months of your yellow friends and their armed thugs holding Thailand to ransom. If the Courts decide that this attempt to removed a legitimate government and grab power is ok, fine. But allow the pro government supporters on to the streets of Bangkok to carry their protests. A legitimate government? Yes, they were elected. But this government has blatantly overstepped its authority and broke the law on numerous occasions. I take it that you believe they can do anything they want, including breaking the law. You are dead wrong. Every country has laws that must be abided by including Thailand. What makes you think Thailand's government and it's officials are exempt from obeying the laws of the land. Please explain Mr. Yim. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) NACC will not let defense witnesses give evidence? <deleted>! Nonsense. Not even a poor try at a spin! The NACC have stopped a procession of witnesses regurgitating the same thing over and over again. No court, commission or tribunal in the world would allow an endless procession of irrelevant witnesses offering nothing new. Edited April 21, 2014 by Baerboxer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtongteesood Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 These PT detritus really are the most annoying idiots ever ! What the court says goes - accept it ! If you don't like the penalty then you should not have committed your litany of crimes in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Mr. Bancha Parameesanaporn, Miss Yingluck's lawyer, will need plenty of Paracetamol after the NACC, will rule the Premier guilty of charges. ..and you might need "plenty of Paracetamol" when Yingluck will win this case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickirs Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Let's take away the political labels for a moment and consider the situation for any hypothetical defendent. If the NACC has indeed decided that its has had sufficient information to find a defendent not guilty, then continuing to hear additional testimony would be an unnecessary burden on both the NACC and the defendent. It is that scenario that Parameesanaporn presumes to exist based on the NACC being fair and politically nuetral. It is the nature of defense attorneys to find the glass half-full rather than half-empty. If rather the NACC's decision not to hear any further testimony for the defence is because it has already decided the defendent is guilty, then the NACC has deprived the defendent of due process of law. It is not up to the juristional authority to determine what is adequate for the defense to offer testimony that it believes will acquit it. Rather its is the jurisdictional authority to judge the relevance of defense evidence. Violation of this most basic tenant for the defendent in a democratic society constitutes a presumption of guilt until proven innocent and the standard for innocence will always be undefined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muhendis Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Perhaps he knows something we dont eh? Perhaps others know something he does not eh? Will he be Yingluck's lawyer in the future? He's like a prostitute. Available to anybody for the right price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimbc Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Everyone knows that it is a stall tactic. We can have witness after witness called. Yeah...let's get two more after this, and two more.... While the rice farmers are the real victims. To help the farmers, you must prosecute the guilty ones. That starts from the PM and down the chain of command. If the subordinates did her wrong, then she better go after them with the full extent of the law. Or she does not, she will have to bare the burden of their sin. But she is no messiah for sure. Just a little girl lost in the big boys game. With the tile comes the responsibility. She just have to take it an move into jail. Defrauding millions of billions. Yeah...that fraud. Anyone want to dispute that fact? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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