moonao Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 He is a PDRC supporter who wants his own private army. He can afford to arm his troops because he owns one of the biggest hospitals in Bangkok. I hope he turns his weapons onto the group that has taken action to stop the Royal Decree from being completed by stopping the election. He's nothing to do with suthep. His madness is furled by a very darker form of fanaticism and psychosis. Disagree. Plenty in common with Sutheps movement in fact this is the direction they are heading. Sutheps movement stopped being a political movement a long time ago now they are essentially just a movement of mass hysteria and collective ignorance. basically the same divisional arrogance and intolerance, just the doctor suffers from it in higher does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
than Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Actually there are a movement how want to try to topple The Thailand Highest Institution with the tacit backing of some politics. Kotee is the best example I said loudly that some leaders of UDD really think in silent. It's the duty of all Thai people to Protect The Revered Highest Institution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Actually there are a movement how want to try to topple The Thailand Highest Institution with the tacit backing of some politics. Kotee is the best example I said loudly that some leaders of UDD really think in silent. It's the duty of all Thai people to Protect The Revered Highest Institution Because you say so? Bet you love the guy in the OP... What penalties would you have exacted for thoughtcrime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
than Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) Actually there are a movement how want to try to topple The Thailand Highest Institution with the tacit backing of some politics. Kotee is the best example I said loudly that some leaders of UDD really think in silent. It's the duty of all Thai people to Protect The Revered Highest Institution Because you say so? Bet you love the guy in the OP... What penalties would you have exacted for thoughtcrime? Khun Baboon, are you support anti monarchy move ? Edited April 23, 2014 by than Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Just1Voice Posted April 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 23, 2014 Actually there are a movement how want to try to topple The Thailand Highest Institution with the tacit backing of some politics. Kotee is the best example I said loudly that some leaders of UDD really think in silent. It's the duty of all Thai people to Protect The Revered Highest Institution No, it's the duty of all Thai people to ensure fair laws in regards to freedom of speech and expression, and not have to live in fear of what someone else might consider "harmful" to said institution, or did you, in all of your "protection" of said institution, did you miss the part where HE said: "I am only a man, I can be criticized" a couple of years ago? HE definitely has more sense about things than you royalist fools do. If you love HIM so much, you would follow HIS words and actions, and not make up your own to do what YOU think is right. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post baboon Posted April 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 23, 2014 Actually there are a movement how want to try to topple The Thailand Highest Institution with the tacit backing of some politics. Kotee is the best example I said loudly that some leaders of UDD really think in silent. It's the duty of all Thai people to Protect The Revered Highest Institution Because you say so? Bet you love the guy in the OP... What penalties would you have exacted for thoughtcrime? Khun Baboon, are you support anti monarchy move ? ...He asked with a hint of menace. The world is a little bit more complex than 'Are you with us or with them?' 'Black or white?' Sorry to be the one that has to break this to you... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwcrist Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) When you compare this law to similar laws outlawing criticism or a certain opinion of something or someone elsewhere and in history, they are always from the most authoritarian countries with the least freedom. Does Thailand want to be associated with or identified as one of those kind of countries? From another perspective: Somewhere upwards of 99.999...% of Thais and expats love the royalty for who they are and what they have done, not because of this law. If your children were forced to give you hugs and never complain about anything, would those hugs be as genuine and meaningful as if they gave them to you voluntarily? And how would your children feel about giving you hugs under such conditions? My point is that Thailand is full of genuine "hugs" for their "parents". No need to diminish the value of those hugs because of a few whining toddlers. Edited April 23, 2014 by dwcrist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
than Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Actually there are a movement how want to try to topple The Thailand Highest Institution with the tacit backing of some politics. Kotee is the best example I said loudly that some leaders of UDD really think in silent. It's the duty of all Thai people to Protect The Revered Highest Institution Because you say so? Bet you love the guy in the OP... What penalties would you have exacted for thoughtcrime? Khun Baboon, are you support anti monarchy move ? ...He asked with a hint of menace. The world is a little bit more complex than 'Are you with us or with them?' 'Black or white?' Sorry to be the one that has to break this to you... it just your interpretation but I just ask you a question ? not a menace, you'll be happy to defend some people how make wrongdoing against the country. the only punishment for this guy are jail..... the fact to bring them to justice is to permit them to explain their gesture.... Yes the world is complex but limit in two block like you want to think, we are in a multipolar world and they are 256 nuances of grey between black and white... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sustento Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Bit of an antiquated law IMO, but as the king does an excellent job and my queen (England) I can say whatever I want about, I'm not all that fussed. BTW, Happy St Georges day queen Liz! Ah yes - St George - English to the core lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 "To Rienthong and his supporters, those who criticise or offend the monarchy are no longer regarded as humans, but as trash." As I said yesterday, dangerous right wing lunatic. Nationalism at its darkest and most poisonous form. Where is Oliver Cromwell when you need him? Well, considering he ran a right wing military dictatorship when he was ruling England, under which freedom of speech, worship and assembly were strictly controlled, thankfully dead since 1658! Sent from my Nexus 7 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Actually there are a movement how want to try to topple The Thailand Highest Institution with the tacit backing of some politics. Kotee is the best example I said loudly that some leaders of UDD really think in silent. It's the duty of all Thai people to Protect The Revered Highest Institution Because you say so? Bet you love the guy in the OP... What penalties would you have exacted for thoughtcrime? Khun Baboon, are you support anti monarchy move ? ...He asked with a hint of menace. The world is a little bit more complex than 'Are you with us or with them?' 'Black or white?' Sorry to be the one that has to break this to you... it just your interpretation but I just ask you a question ? not a menace, you'll be happy to defend some people how make wrongdoing against the country. the only punishment for this guy are jail..... the fact to bring them to justice is to permit them to explain their gesture.... Yes the world is complex but limit in two block like you want to think, we are in a multipolar world and they are 256 nuances of grey between black and white... So you would allow vile individuals like myself a fair trial before jailing or shooting us? Very magnanimous of you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) He is a PDRC supporter who wants his own private army. He can afford to arm his troops because he owns one of the biggest hospitals in Bangkok. I hope he turns his weapons onto the group that has taken action to stop the Royal Decree from being completed by stopping the election. He's nothing to do with suthep. His madness is furled by a very darker form of fanaticism and psychosis. Disagree. Plenty in common with Sutheps movement in fact this is the direction they are heading. Sutheps movement stopped being a political movement a long time ago now they are essentially just a movement of mass hysteria and collective ignorance. basically the same divisional arrogance and intolerance, just the doctor suffers from it in higher does. Just because you want it to be true, regardless of evidence, doesn't make it so. They are not linked. Edited April 23, 2014 by Bluespunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonao Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 He is a PDRC supporter who wants his own private army. He can afford to arm his troops because he owns one of the biggest hospitals in Bangkok. I hope he turns his weapons onto the group that has taken action to stop the Royal Decree from being completed by stopping the election. He's nothing to do with suthep. His madness is furled by a very darker form of fanaticism and psychosis. Disagree. Plenty in common with Sutheps movement in fact this is the direction they are heading. Sutheps movement stopped being a political movement a long time ago now they are essentially just a movement of mass hysteria and collective ignorance. basically the same divisional arrogance and intolerance, just the doctor suffers from it in higher does. Just because you want it to be true, regardless of evidence, doesn't make it so. They are not linked. Ummm, sorry to burst your bubble but ThaiPBS reporters think otherwise. http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/mongkutwattana-director-says-armed-forces-pledged-provide-security-protection/ "He is a strong supporter of anti -government movement." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) @moonao You Ummm, sorry to burst your bubble but ThaiPBS reporters think otherwise. http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/mongkutwattana-director-says-armed-forces-pledged-provide-security-protection/ "He is a strong supporter of anti -government movement." Me: Yes, but that does not mean he is linked to suthep's pdrc. What this guy is promoting has nothing to do with the pdrc. I don't like suthep or his pdrc but I can see he is nothing to do with this fanatic. Edited April 23, 2014 by Bluespunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyBowskill Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Bit of an antiquated law IMO, but as the king does an excellent job and my queen (England) I can say whatever I want about, I'm not all that fussed. BTW, Happy St Georges day queen Liz! Ah yes - St George - English to the core lol English as is in Celtic, French, viking, Spaniard, Roman and whatever? I guess that's the funny point you were trying to make? The dobermann, for example takes 7 different breeds to make a pure bred, If it helps you can think of the English like that, should you need to work it all out in yer peanut....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonao Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) @moonao You Ummm, sorry to burst your bubble but ThaiPBS reporters think otherwise. http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/mongkutwattana-director-says-armed-forces-pledged-provide-security-protection Me: Yes, but that does not mean he is linked to suthep's pdrc. What this guy is promoting has nothing to do with the pdrc. I don't like suthep or his pdrc but I can see he is nothing to do with this fanatic. Alrightly then... the anti-government movement this doc is a part of is not linked to Sutheps PDRC... whatever you say, mate. Edited April 23, 2014 by moonao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) @moonao You Ummm, sorry to burst your bubble but ThaiPBS reporters think otherwise. http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/mongkutwattana-director-says-armed-forces-pledged-provide-security-protection Me: Yes, but that does not mean he is linked to suthep's pdrc. What this guy is promoting has nothing to do with the pdrc. I don't like suthep or his pdrc but I can see he is nothing to do with this fanatic. Alrightly then... the anti-government movement this doc is a part of is not linked to Sutheps PDRC... whatever you say, mate. No he's not. This fanatic is talking about anti monarchists as being trash, as something to be hunted down by ex soldiers, he talks about making sure teenagers don't have impure thoughts. He is a dangerous right wing nationalistic bigot. Suthep and his pdrc for all their flaws are not as rabid as this lunatic. He wants to purge the people and ensure they think the right way. You say he is part of the pdrc. News to me. What position does he hold? P.S. I'm not your mate. Edited April 23, 2014 by Bluespunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post moonao Posted April 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) @moonao You Ummm, sorry to burst your bubble but ThaiPBS reporters think otherwise. http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/mongkutwattana-director-says-armed-forces-pledged-provide-security-protection Me: Yes, but that does not mean he is linked to suthep's pdrc. What this guy is promoting has nothing to do with the pdrc. I don't like suthep or his pdrc but I can see he is nothing to do with this fanatic. Alrightly then... the anti-government movement this doc is a part of is not linked to Sutheps PDRC... whatever you say, mate. No he's not. This fanatic is talking about anti monarchists as being trash, as something to be hunted down by ex soldiers, he talks about making sure teenagers don't have impure thoughts. He is a dangerous right wing nationalistic bigot. Suthep and his pdrc for all their flaws are not as rabid as this lunatic. He wants to purge the people and ensure they think the right way.You say he is part of the pdrc. News to me. What position does he hold? P.S. I'm not your mate. He has been on Sutheps stage and the newspaper described him as a strong supporter of the anti-government movement. If that isn't enough to convince you that he is linked to the PDRC then I don't know what would. Its understandable if the moderates in the PDRC want to distance themselves from this anti-government extremist lunatic, to them I say reign the extremists in don't orphan them off, after all Suthep and co did create the fester pot that gave birth to this nutter. Edited April 23, 2014 by moonao 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 @moonao You Ummm, sorry to burst your bubble but ThaiPBS reporters think otherwise. http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/mongkutwattana-director-says-armed-forces-pledged-provide-security-protection Me: Yes, but that does not mean he is linked to suthep's pdrc. What this guy is promoting has nothing to do with the pdrc. I don't like suthep or his pdrc but I can see he is nothing to do with this fanatic. Alrightly then... the anti-government movement this doc is a part of is not linked to Sutheps PDRC... whatever you say, mate. No he's not. This fanatic is talking about anti monarchists as being trash, as something to be hunted down by ex soldiers, he talks about making sure teenagers don't have impure thoughts. He is a dangerous right wing nationalistic bigot. Suthep and his pdrc for all their flaws are not as rabid as this lunatic. He wants to purge the people and ensure they think the right way.You say he is part of the pdrc. News to me. What position does he hold? P.S. I'm not your mate. He has been on Sutheps stage and the newspaper described him as a strong supporter of the anti-government movement. If that isn't enough to convince you that he is linked to the PDRC then I don't know what would. Its understandable if the moderates in the PDRC want to distance themselves from this anti-government extremist lunatic, to them I say reign the extremists in don't orphan them off, after all Suthep and co did create the mobish fester pot that gave birth to this nutter. Nope. This fanatics lunacy is all his own. Nothing to do with suthep or pdrc. He has his own psychotic tendencies that have much deeper roots than the current mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisrazz Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 This guy should be charged with Lese Majeste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semester Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 He is a PDRC supporter who wants his own private army. He can afford to arm his troops because he owns one of the biggest hospitals in Bangkok. I hope he turns his weapons onto the group that has taken action to stop the Royal Decree from being completed by stopping the election. He's nothing to do with suthep. His madness is furled by a very darker form of fanaticism and psychosis. Disagree. Plenty in common with Sutheps movement in fact this is the direction they are heading. Sutheps movement stopped being a political movement a long time ago now they are essentially just a movement of mass hysteria and collective ignorance. basically the same divisional arrogance and intolerance, just the doctor suffers from it in higher does. He has a lot more in common with Yingluck and Chalerm running their LM War Room. It wouldn't be surprising to learn he's working with them as a consultant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Bit of an antiquated law IMO, but as the king does an excellent job and my queen (England) I can say whatever I want about, I'm not all that fussed. BTW, Happy St Georges day queen Liz! Well I am not that familiar with the law but I do know it can as written now be very unfair. It would defiantly need reform. I heard of a fellow who stepped on a rolling coin and got sentenced to jail for it. Defiantly Draconian aspects to it. But This is only my opinion and no one else's. To compare respect for the King in Thailand to respect for the Queen in England is just plain ignorant. Thailand places a lot more on respect than England does. Thailand has a completly different culture. It is just another lets change Thailand so it can be like where I come from but don't want to live there. Senseless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Must be the guy with his Phayathai International Hospital Group. Seems that every very rich Fascist in this country becomes really nervous. They know their feudalism time is running out. Some how I think when all the nonsense is settled down. It will still be his hospital and if you want to work there you will do as you are told. The guy is just as far off as Jatuporn in his thinking. Or lack off thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 it just underlines how backward and ridiculous Thais are ,stuck in another era ,pitiful fools for all to see Speaking of pitiful fools for all to see You choose to live here even though you don't like the culture. What holds you the ease of access to women. I would say drugs but they are probably just as easy where you come from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) it just underlines how backward and ridiculous Thais are ,stuck in another era ,pitiful fools for all to see Speaking of pitiful fools for all to see You choose to live here even though you don't like the culture. What holds you the ease of access to women. I would say drugs but they are probably just as easy where you come from. LM law is NOT part of the Thai culture get that part right. A law is one of many, individually a law is not a cultural ingredient. It is indeed a backward step to enforce LM in the modern world, it is simply incorrect,has even been said as much by the highest in the land who in fact encouraged the opposite. See 2005 birthday HRM speech.... Interestingly from 2006 on it has ballooned. From 1990 to 2005, the Thai court system only saw four or five lèse majesté cases a year. From January 2006 to May 2011, however, more than 400 cases came to trial, an estimated 1,500 % increase. For example, there were 478 cases in 2010 alone. Not exactly a step forwards or listening by Thailand methinks Edited April 23, 2014 by englishoak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GinBoy2 Posted April 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) it just underlines how backward and ridiculous Thais are ,stuck in another era ,pitiful fools for all to see Speaking of pitiful fools for all to see You choose to live here even though you don't like the culture. What holds you the ease of access to women. I would say drugs but they are probably just as easy where you come from. LM law is NOT part of the Thai culture get that part right. A law is one of many, individually a law is not a cultural ingredient. It is indeed a backward step to enforce LM in the modern world, it is simply incorrect,has even been said as much by the highest in the land who in fact encouraged the opposite. See 2005 birthday HRM speech.... Interestingly from 2006 on it has ballooned. From 1990 to 2005, the Thai court system only saw four or five lèse majesté cases a year. From January 2006 to May 2011, however, more than 400 cases came to trial, an estimated 1,500 % increase. For example, there were 478 cases in 2010 alone. Not exactly a step forwards or listening by Thailand methinks Following the coup the implentation of lese majeste altered radically into the political tool we see today. Hence my earlier comments that for most of the fanatics the actual defense of the Monarchy hardly matters, the law is used purely for political ends. As other posters have commented, even His Majesty has spoken out against the current use of lese majeste in his birthday speech. However the total disregard by the political elites (I'm an equal opportunity criticizer of politicians) of his words speaks volumes to their actual thinking and respect for the institution. This is when I am critical of the Democrats and their paymasters. In the days after their 'installation' as the Government they chose to implement the hotline and escalate the whole lese majeste fiasco, inviting ordinary citizens to report so called abuses, as a way to try to stifle dissent. It's hard once that genie is out of the bottle to put it back. Ironically its the poor foot soldiers be they Red, Yellow that actually do hold the Monarchy with respect. It's the people who constantly scream LM and unfortunately hold the reigns of power and money, that I fear hold much more cynical and ultimately dangerous views Edited April 23, 2014 by GinBoy2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 He is a PDRC supporter who wants his own private army. He can afford to arm his troops because he owns one of the biggest hospitals in Bangkok. I hope he turns his weapons onto the group that has taken action to stop the Royal Decree from being completed by stopping the election. He's nothing to do with suthep. His madness is furled by a very darker form of fanaticism and psychosis. Disagree. Plenty in common with Sutheps movement in fact this is the direction they are heading. Sutheps movement stopped being a political movement a long time ago now they are essentially just a movement of mass hysteria and collective ignorance. basically the same divisional arrogance and intolerance, just the doctor suffers from it in higher does. He has a lot more in common with Yingluck and Chalerm running their LM War Room. It wouldn't be surprising to learn he's working with them as a consultant. Hang on here i am getting lost! I thought YS etc were anti monarchy or this is what the people have been told for the past 10 years. Now you are saying they have a 'war room' on LM. Can you clarify for me, are they for or against? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyBowskill Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Bit of an antiquated law IMO, but as the king does an excellent job and my queen (England) I can say whatever I want about, I'm not all that fussed. BTW, Happy St Georges day queen Liz! Well I am not that familiar with the law but I do know it can as written now be very unfair. It would defiantly need reform. I heard of a fellow who stepped on a rolling coin and got sentenced to jail for it. Defiantly Draconian aspects to it. But This is only my opinion and no one else's. To compare respect for the King in Thailand to respect for the Queen in England is just plain ignorant. Thailand places a lot more on respect than England does. Thailand has a completly different culture. It is just another lets change Thailand so it can be like where I come from but don't want to live there. Senseless. I did not compare respect of anyone, please point out where I did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Bit of an antiquated law IMO, but as the king does an excellent job and my queen (England) I can say whatever I want about, I'm not all that fussed. BTW, Happy St Georges day queen Liz! Well I am not that familiar with the law but I do know it can as written now be very unfair. It would defiantly need reform. I heard of a fellow who stepped on a rolling coin and got sentenced to jail for it. Defiantly Draconian aspects to it. But This is only my opinion and no one else's. To compare respect for the King in Thailand to respect for the Queen in England is just plain ignorant. Thailand places a lot more on respect than England does. Thailand has a completly different culture. It is just another lets change Thailand so it can be like where I come from but don't want to live there. Senseless. I did not compare respect of anyone, please point out where I did? Absolutely impossible to compare, whilst the current laws are in place. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimamey Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 reform is needed in many areas and this is top of the list - the Queen in England is much loved and admired and does not need this sort of antiquated censorship Even many republicans think she does a good job it's just how she got it that they don't like. It does have an advantage over having a president in that it's non political. The strength of the monarchy in any country is down to the current monarch which is why there's no need to protect the UK queen from criticism and in fact attempts to do so would do more harm than good as I believe is the case in Thailand. The lese majeste and the views of this group seem as if they could be lese majeste in themselves if HM speech in 2005 is taken into account. there is even a book which is unofficially banned due to it's content but an official ban isn't possible due to it having the blessing of the king. i wonder if this group or any of those that support the LM laws have ever been polite enough to ask the king for his opinion? I've never approved of the constant use of the king for political ends and this does seem to have been something the democrats are guilty of. I think the LM should be dropped as with a popular king this would be the best time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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