Prem to seek royal command

[Lite Beer]

Prem to seek royal command
The Sunday Nation

The anti-government People

BANGKOK: -- Privy Council chief accepts proposal by Man of State group to request help from the King to resolve crisis

The Privy Council president has agreed to a proposal by the Man of State group to seek His Majesty the King's assistance to help end the political crisis and allow the country to move forward, according to the group's leader.

Saiyud Kerdphol, a retired Army general who is a former armed forces supreme commander, said yesterday that General Prem Tinsulanonda, the chief royal adviser, would submit to the King an appeal by the group for a royal command to solve the ongoing crisis.

He said the measure suggested by the group, in a bid to restore peace in the country, would be in line with the Constitution.

"It will not involve Article 7 of the Constitution or a neutral prime minister. But I will not talk about it in detail now," Saiyud said in an interview with the Nation Group yesterday.

Saiyud, 93, said he met Prem personally on Friday for about an hour to talk about the matter. He said Prem agreed to his group's idea of seeking royal assistance.

He expected the group's appeal to His Majesty the King would be completed within the next week, adding that Prem would later submit the proposed measure for royal endorsement.

Saiyud explained that His Majesty helped settle a number of serious conflicts in the country in the past. These included turm-oil in Chinatown after the end of World War II, conflict following the student-led uprising in 1973, and the pro-democracy protest in May 1992.

He was convinced that the King's moral power would again help solve another severe conflict.

This latest attempt by the Man of State group comes after the confrontation between the government and the anti-government People's Democratic Reform Committee has continued for six months.

Saiyud said that with a royal order to be issued, he believed that the crisis would be resolved. He added that in Thai history, a royal order had never been challenged.

When asked to comment on possible opposition by government supporters, Saiyud

said the relevant authorities including the armed forces should perform their duty in this regard.

"The person who challenges a royal order for the first time in Thai history will be recorded in the history books," he said.

Saiyud said he was working on this matter for the benefit of the country as he had concern for the country.

"I can't just stay idle. This is my country. I have not slept well," he said.

"The country will not head for a dead-end because we have the King as our head of state.

"The government works on be-half of the King and it volunteers to run the country so that the country is in peace and order. They took their vow before His Majesty and what have they done for the country over the past two years?"

Saiyud once chaired the People’s Network for Election, an election watchdog.

The Man of State group, which was formed on January 28, earlier suggested that the political crisis should be solved by intervention of the military. The group consists mainly of retired high-ranking military commanders, government officials and academics.

-- The Nation 2014-04-27

[The stuttering parrot]

But I will not talk in detail about it now!

Bit like sutep not outlining his reform plans.

A lot of talk with no substance!

[Mango Bob]

_{I doubt these two old man could stay awake for an hour to discuss politics.}

[Piichai]

It's good to see men such as Prem are not intimidated by the Red thugs, and are willing to work to resolve the situation.

[CWMcMurray]

This is about to get interesting...

The result of this could either be to find the solution that all are hoping for or it could change Thailand for ever...

I am hoping that will be able to find a solution that all can live with and we can finally begin to move on

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[Dr Bruce]

Do not hold out much hope for this one.

Saiyud Kerdpho was one of the leaders of the protests before even Suthep got involved.

""The person who challenges a royal order for the first time in Thai history will be recorded in the history books," he said."

Was there a royal decree for the Feb 2nd election?

[Roadman]

It is the correct group to resolve the upcoming vacuum but think this should be occurring after the judicial process has dealt to the puppet and Thaksin's cronies.

Edited April 27, 2014 by Roadman

[issanaus]

I am interested in what comes out of the Royal Household - sick of all sides claiming that some third party has said this or that but never producing any evidence

[Tatsujin]

But I will not talk in detail about it now!

Bit like sutep not outlining his reform plans.

A lot of talk with no substance!

Given Thaksin's lack of morals about spreading lies and disinformation, it's a great idea NOT to give him a heads-up and a chance to do something about it before it happens.

[rametindallas]

_{I doubt these two old man could stay awake for an hour to discuss politics.}

You should live so long and maybe you will gain 1% of their wisdom. But with your attitude you will never gain wisdom.

[DirtFarmer]

“Man of State Group”

Retired high-ranking generals, government officials. and academics..(not sure if this is the whole group)

Gen Prem Tinsulanonda

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prem_Tinsulanonda

Pramote Nakhonthap

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Court-upholds-conviction-of-columnist-in-Thaksin-d-30203507.html

Chai-Anan Samudavanija

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chai-Anan_Samudavanija

Adm Vichet Karunyavanij,

. Admiral Vichet Karunyavanij, Deputy Minister of Interior. (1992)

Amorn Chantarasomboon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amorn_Chantarasomboon

Gen Suravudh Maharom

Gen Wimol Wongwanich

http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/tag/gen-wimol-wongwanich/

Former air force chief ACM Gun Pimarnthip

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/webmobile/politics/Military-urged-to-choose-the-side-of-righteousness-30222630.html

Surapong Jayanama.

http://www.bnionline.net/index.php/news/shan/9095-junta-may-get-away-with-it-yet-thai-academic.html

http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2011/08/19/surapong-jayanama-down-under/

http://agentofthefree.blogspot.com/2011/09/surapong-stooges-sifa-and-swastikas.html

Pretty sure this is a less than a neutral group but it is what it is and no matter what we feel or who we support we may very well be seeing a shift....

everyone will speculate no doubt which way the shift will go but can get a pretty good idea by searching out these names should this effort move forward.

I hope these gentlemen can draft a responsible and neutral resolution for His Majesty to sign off on... should this be the end game.

Am also curious which hand will countersign the decree should it become a reality as that is where the responsibility would lie.

[kurtgruen]

I choose not to get sucked into commenting on this topic

[geovalin]

10 ways to make a coup d'état

Lesson 8

[my advice: close this topic].

[Piichai]

We have a 93 year old ex-commander now getting involved... <deleted>?

It speaks volumes to the average citizen; if a 93 year old man can take a stand against the current government, so can the average man.

[Jip99]

I choose not to get sucked into commenting on this topic

You just have !!

[EvilDrSomkid]

[my advice: close this topic].

Seconded.

[virtualtraveller]

There is no neutral group left, save for the king. He is the only one with authority and respect to make all sides step back and find common ground towards a solution. This crisis has been steadily drifting towards this solution except that it needed to first become deadlocked. Whether the proposal is from Thaksin, Prem or whoever is irrelevant, it is a attempt at mediated solution. The king has deliberately stayed out of it in order to remain impartial, I'm sure we can rely on his judgment to accept or modify a proposal, should he choose to, that would be fair. If its not acceptable to any particular party then perhaps it's because that party is angling for some unfair advantage or to preserve an unbalanced status quo that suits them.

[Just1Voice]

We have a 93 year old ex-commander now getting involved... <deleted>?

It speaks volumes to the average citizen; if a 93 year old man can take a stand against the current government, so can the average man.

On the one hand I can agree with you, but on the other hand, I can't. Especially if that 93 yr old man is stuck in the past and can only think of the "glory days" of "yesteryear", which I think most of those in this group fall into.

[soundman]

Posts removed from view.

Please note: No discussion whatsoever on His Majesty in a political context and no speculation on any other aspect of His Majesty or other members of the Royal Family.

Thank-you.

[Publicus]

The Bangkok ammart have decided to roll the dice.

Snake eyes.

[chooka]

I think the Queen of England was the last monarch to remove a government and that was back in the late 70's when she removed the Australian government.

[wprime]

Trying to drag the royal household into the political conflict, it may very well blow up in his face. If the King chooses the current government what then?

He probably will, it's the only way to maintain peace. It's sad that they must involve the King, I'm sure considering his age he would have hoped his people could resolve their own problems by now.

[moonao]

I would like to see them put their full weight behind a democratic solution with respect for elections at the front.

What this sounds like however, is a military based solution with a "don't argue" stamp on it. After all, prem was one of the people who started off this mess for his role in instigating the coup in 2006 which triggered all that followed

Edited April 27, 2014 by moonao

[ZigZagMan]

It's good to see men such as Prem are not intimidated by the Red thugs, and are willing to work to resolve the situation.

Yeah. A billionaire General. That's who we need.

I would support him as long as he agrees to a polygraph test and some questions about origins of his wealth.

[ginjag]

I choose not to get sucked into commenting on this topic

You just have !!

And you for aiding and abetting.

[kurtgruen]

Posts removed from view.

Please note: No discussion whatsoever on His Majesty in a political context and no speculation on any other aspect of His Majesty or other members of the Royal Family.

Thank-you.

I would just remove this topic period. It is just baiting members

[rreddin]

“Man of State Group”

Retired high-ranking generals, government officials. and academics..(not sure if this is the whole group)

Gen Prem Tinsulanonda

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prem_Tinsulanonda

Pramote Nakhonthap

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Court-upholds-conviction-of-columnist-in-Thaksin-d-30203507.html

Chai-Anan Samudavanija

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chai-Anan_Samudavanija

Adm Vichet Karunyavanij,

. Admiral Vichet Karunyavanij, Deputy Minister of Interior. (1992)

Amorn Chantarasomboon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amorn_Chantarasomboon

Gen Suravudh Maharom

Gen Wimol Wongwanich

http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/tag/gen-wimol-wongwanich/

Former air force chief ACM Gun Pimarnthip

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/webmobile/politics/Military-urged-to-choose-the-side-of-righteousness-30222630.html

Surapong Jayanama.

http://www.bnionline.net/index.php/news/shan/9095-junta-may-get-away-with-it-yet-thai-academic.html

http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2011/08/19/surapong-jayanama-down-under/

http://agentofthefree.blogspot.com/2011/09/surapong-stooges-sifa-and-swastikas.html

Pretty sure this is a less than a neutral group but it is what it is and no matter what we feel or who we support we may very well be seeing a shift....

everyone will speculate no doubt which way the shift will go but can get a pretty good idea by searching out these names should this effort move forward.

I hope these gentlemen can draft a responsible and neutral resolution for His Majesty to sign off on... should this be the end game.

Am also curious which hand will countersign the decree should it become a reality as that is where the responsibility would lie.

It would not be the end game. It would be the start of the end game. The situation is not, however, a game. Nor will there be any winners.

[ginjag]

Thought the topic was off limits to posters-as per rule.

[Somtamnication]

Prem is listened to "up there". 'nuff said.

[ginjag]

Posts removed from view.

Please note: No discussion whatsoever on His Majesty in a political context and no speculation on any other aspect of His Majesty or other members of the Royal Family.

Thank-you.

There is no point to post as a ban is waiting for members, I agree the topic is too sensitive. Where is the Mods dividing line????