What happens if I don't cancel my visa when I leave my job?

[MonsterP]

Strange, immigration can usually confirm to you over the phone if your visa is still valid or not. Did they say why they couldn't tell you?

Not, how you should cancel it, which is a completely different question.

Your school HR should not drag their heels on an easy question, they just need to check the records, a 2 minute job. Follow up tomorrow if you don't hear from them today.

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[Britchick]

I think it may just been in my best interest to go to immigration and cancel my visa this week and get a 7 day extension. I suppose this would solve all the issues in one go. Only problem is I don't have a letter from my last school. I sent them an email from my school email as that is where my previous correspondences were stored and it seems they just disabled my email with no reply. What does everyone think?

[Soutpeel]

I think it may just been in my best interest to go to immigration and cancel my visa this week and get a 7 day extension. I suppose this would solve all the issues in one go. Only problem is I don't have a letter from my last school. I sent them an email from my school email as that is where my previous correspondences were stored and it seems they just disabled my email with no reply. What does everyone think?

If you have on extension of stay for the last 2.5 years, eg did you report your address every 90 days,? you don't have a visa to cancel and if your previous employer cancelled your paper work the last day you worked you are already on an overstay and turning up at your local immigration department may not be the smartest thing to do

You need to get the following questions answered before doing anything

1. Where you on an extension of stay based on employment ? Eg you do 90 day reports

2. If you were on an extension of stay has your previous employer cancelled all your paper work and if they have from what date ? As this will be the date you have been on an overstay since

[Nebula]

I agree that if you didnt go to cancel ur WP and Extension/Visa you can still leave and may be even go and apply for re entry first. People like to say ask the school , your employer should know but usually the schools know nothing. If there s someone who knows its the only one person handling the paperwork for the new teachers. This person also may not know the answer. So now the best is cancel WP and then at the same day go to Immigration and cancel visa and apply for 7 days. If the school didnt do anything yet, the best is to get a letter from them and cancel your extenstion/visa using the letter and the cancellation to be at the day when the extension ends. Dont wait an email from the school, best is go there and take this letter. There you can face 2 problems: 1. they r not sure how /what to write and 2. need Director's signature and he might not be there.

[Britchick]

Just to let you all know. I went on my visa last week without any issues not fine no questions and no issues gaining another non-b.

[EBlair48]

As I understand it, when you leave employment on a Non-B visa with the corresponding work permit, technically (legally) you and a Thai employee of the employer are supposed to go to immigration to cancel the visa, you then have 7 days to exit Thailand or get a new 7 day extension of stay. Then, you are both supposed to go to the local office for work permits and cancel the work permit together.

Trouble is this is rarely done due to non-Thai nationals and Thai nationals not really knowing what to do, as the people in charge do not really know or enforce it.

I have done this myself when I left employment for a previous company, I left the company and neither of us cancelled the visa or cancelled the work permit. I stayed until the end of the 90 day report, then left to Laos for a new type of visa, no problems or late fees.

Problem I see with the OP, is that they are not on a Non-imm b, they are on an extension of stay, ie they are not on a visa, therefore permission to stay ends the day employment ends, there is no 7 days grace period, and to remain in country you need to purchase a 7 day extension for THB 1900....

So one suspects the OP is now on an overstay

So if you get fired you have to leave the country the same day? That's inhumane !! Sure helps out the Thai employer with not paying severance.

[Soutpeel]

As I understand it, when you leave employment on a Non-B visa with the corresponding work permit, technically (legally) you and a Thai employee of the employer are supposed to go to immigration to cancel the visa, you then have 7 days to exit Thailand or get a new 7 day extension of stay. Then, you are both supposed to go to the local office for work permits and cancel the work permit together.

Trouble is this is rarely done due to non-Thai nationals and Thai nationals not really knowing what to do, as the people in charge do not really know or enforce it.

I have done this myself when I left employment for a previous company, I left the company and neither of us cancelled the visa or cancelled the work permit. I stayed until the end of the 90 day report, then left to Laos for a new type of visa, no problems or late fees.

Problem I see with the OP, is that they are not on a Non-imm b, they are on an extension of stay, ie they are not on a visa, therefore permission to stay ends the day employment ends, there is no 7 days grace period, and to remain in country you need to purchase a 7 day extension for THB 1900....

So one suspects the OP is now on an overstay

So if you get fired you have to leave the country the same day? That's inhumane !! Sure helps out the Thai employer with not paying severance.

Well yes as if your in thailand on an extension of stay for reason of employment and you are no longer employed you no longer have a reason to stay, if you get fired your not entitled to severance anyway

[Bardeh]

I was in a very similar situation a couple of years ago. I was on an extended non-b visa, but I left the job and forgot to give the WP back to the school. I had 6 months left on the extension when I left the job, and just went and did my 90 day extensions as normal without any issues whatsoever. When it came to go and get a new visa, there wasn't any issue at the border.

Now, I'm not saying that this was the right thing to do. Technically, I was in the country illegally for those 6 months, but in my experience, the Work Permit people and the Immigration people do not share information, and you shouldn't have a problem with your visa. As long as the stamps in your passport are legit, any border personnel shouldn't check any further.

EDIT: I just saw your last post, and it seems everything was fine. It really does boggle my mind that Thailand doesn't have some sort of integrated network to check these facts between departments, but they really don't.

Edited June 16, 2014 by Bardeh

[scclarke]

I have a question relating to this, but from a slightly different perspective.

I lived/worked in Bangkok last year, and was issued with a non immigrant visa, and work permit. The extension of stay end date for the visa is 15th Sept 2014.

I actually left LOS at the end of December last year, transferring back to my role in the UK. I'm flying to Thailand at the end of this week for a holiday - just 2 weeks - and wondered if I enter using the non immigrant visa, or obtain a visa on arrival?

Thanks.

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[digitalchromakey]

I have a question relating to this, but from a slightly different perspective.

I lived/worked in Bangkok last year, and was issued with a non immigrant visa, and work permit. The extension of stay end date for the visa is 15th Sept 2014.

I actually left LOS at the end of December last year, transferring back to my role in the UK. I'm flying to Thailand at the end of this week for a holiday - just 2 weeks - and wondered if I enter using the non immigrant visa, or obtain a visa on arrival?

Thanks.

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If you have a Multiple Entry 12 month Non Immigrant 'B' Visa obtained outside of Thailand, then you would get 90 days entering Thailand before the 15th Sept 2014 (presumed 'Use Before' date on visa).

If you had an Extension of Permission to Stay based on working in Thailand, then unless you had a re-entry Permit, this extension would have ended when you left Thailand.

If you had an extension along with a valid re-entry permit which was not cancelled with your Work Permit, then you might well be stamped in until 15th Sep 2014.

[scclarke]

I have a question relating to this, but from a slightly different perspective.

I lived/worked in Bangkok last year, and was issued with a non immigrant visa, and work permit. The extension of stay end date for the visa is 15th Sept 2014.

I actually left LOS at the end of December last year, transferring back to my role in the UK. I'm flying to Thailand at the end of this week for a holiday - just 2 weeks - and wondered if I enter using the non immigrant visa, or obtain a visa on arrival?

Thanks.

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If you have a Multiple Entry 12 month Non Immigrant 'B' Visa obtained outside of Thailand, then you would get 90 days entering Thailand before the 15th Sept 2014 (presumed 'Use Before' date on visa).

If you had an Extension of Permission to Stay based on working in Thailand, then unless you had a re-entry Permit, this extension would have ended when you left Thailand.

If you had an extension along with a valid re-entry permit which was not cancelled with your Work Permit, then you might well be stamped in until 15th Sep 2014.

Thanks! I don't know which one it is: I'll take a photo tomorrow and attach. However, it will probably just be as easy to obtain a visa on arrival I expect. Cheers.

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[sikishrory]

I'm in a similar situation. Quit job. Holding onto work permit for a bit.

I'm wondering is there usually something written on the extension of stay stamp that indicates the extension of stay is linked to your employment?

I came here on a non-imm B visa and am on the 2nd 1 year extension now. I'm pretty sure it's not linked to my job at all. Unlike other non-imm B's this one wasn't based on employment to begin with.

I will attach a picture of extension. You can see there's nothing on it to say it is linked to me being employed.

Right?

[ubonjoe]

It may not say it but if is for working it is tied to you having a job and it ends when you loose you job. You probably even signed a paper stating that when you got your extension.

[sikishrory]

thats what i'm trying to determine. whether or not it is supposed to be written on the extension itself. if it were an average non-imm B then i wouldn't bother asking but my visa is a BA and it was not about employment or business in the first place.

if i leave and re-enter thailand. i don't see why any officer checking this would pull me up.

[ubonjoe]

If you had a valid multiple entry visa from an embassy or consulate ti would still be valid after you lost your job.

But you have an extension of stay which is based upon working for a company. If not working it is gone.

[sikishrory]

Anyone have a picture of their non B extension? I would like to see it

[ubonjoe]

All extension stamps look about the same as yours. Mine based upon marriage is the same. Some offices put a stamp near them that has the basis for the extension on it.

[digitalchromakey]

All extension stamps look about the same as yours. Mine based upon marriage is the same. Some offices put a stamp near them that has the basis for the extension on it.

Also some offices hand write (in Thai) the basis for the extension above the main extension stamp.

[Maestro]

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I'm wondering is there usually something written on the extension of stay stamp that indicates the extension of stay is linked to your employment?

I came here on a non-imm B visa and am on the 2nd 1 year extension now. I'm pretty sure it's not linked to my job at all. Unlike other non-imm B's this one wasn't based on employment to begin with.

I will attach a picture of extension. You can see there's nothing on it to say it is linked to me being employed.

Right?

Mostly, but not always, the extension stamp has an annotation indicating the reason for the extension. Your stamp has two handwritten annotations, circled in red in the attachment, but I do not know their meaning.

[scclarke]

Finally took photos - I'm actually in Thailand on hols now.

I had a single entry Non-Imm B visa that I used last year


I used this to get the following stamp...



When I arrived at BKK last week, the immigration counter stamped me in until the expiry of my visa as per this...



As I left Thailand at Christmas, I've not kept up with 90 day reporting. I would have entered on a visa on arrival, but they processed my arrival this way. Ah well - at least I'm here. Cheers.


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Edited July 1, 2014 by ubonjoe
removed visa image because it contained personal info

[digitalchromakey]

Finally took photos - I'm actually in Thailand on hols now.

I had a single entry Non-Imm B visa that I used last year

ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1404186204.405430.jpg

I used this to get the following stamp...

When I arrived at BKK last week, the immigration counter stamped me in until the expiry of my visa as per this...

As I left Thailand at Christmas, I've not kept up with 90 day reporting. I would have entered on a visa on arrival, but they processed my arrival this way. Ah well - at least I'm here. Cheers.

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Thanks for posting the images.

Some time shortly after your 90 day non 'b' entry, on the 25th June 2013 and as you were employed by a Thai BOI Company, you were given a 12 month Extension of Permission to Stay based on Working in Thailand at The BKK One Stop Centre, this along with a Multiple Re-Entry Permit.

Your original extension was never cancelled, so when you entered Thailand this time you were stamped in based on your still extant re-entry permit to the original 'Admitted Until' date of 15 Sept 2014.

Your original Non 'b' visa will be long expired.

Edited July 1, 2014 by digitalchromakey

[sikishrory]

I spoke to a visa shop about this. he said proper procedure is that your company will hand in work permit and cancel it at which time they will cancel your extension as well.

at this point you can get the 7 day extension to leave the country or make arrangements.

I asked if you just keep on doing what your doing what's to stop you. he said when you leave Thailand they might question you as to why you don't have a re-entry permit.... might.

I also spoke to a lawyer who said my extension is not linked to work in any way and the HR department at my company also says it is not linked.

It should not be that you have to email 5 lawyers, follow internet forums, talk to visa specialists to find this out. They could certainly make it a bit clearer by writing something clear and concise on the extension.