Charupong warns of chaos if Thai cabinet is to leave the office

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Charupong warns of chaos if cabinet is to leave the office



BANGKOK: -- Caretaker Interior Minister Charupong Ruangsuwan said he believed the Constitutional Court would deliver its judgement today on the fate of caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra.

He cited previous cases deliberated by the Constitutional Court which listened to testimonies from witnesses and parties in the conflict in the morning and then, in the afternoon, wrapped up the cases and passed the verdicts.

However, he said that the Pheu Thai party had already worked out a plan to cope with the court’s judgement whichever it will be but he declined to elaborate.

The Pheu Thai party leader, nevertheless, said he believed the verdict would be negative to both the prime minister and the cabinet but he warned of possible chaos if the cabinet was faulted and forced to leave the office like the prime minister.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/charupong-warns-chaos-cabinet-leave-office/


-- Thai PBS 2014-05-06

[NamKAheng]

It's already chaos with this cabinet so .....

[TVGerry]

Enough with the scare tactics. If you guys had done your jobs a little more cleanly and intelligently, it wouldn't have come down to this.

[Tatsujin]

Another thinly veiled threat from PT's numerous Ministers of Moronity . . .

[Bluespunk]

'Charupong warns of chaos if Thai cabinet is to leave the office'

How will we know the difference?

[Bluespunk]

"However, he said that the Pheu Thai party had already worked out a plan to cope with the court’s judgement whichever it will be but he declined to elaborate."

Hope it's a better one than your rice policy, tablet scheme, car rebates, etc....

[Snig27]

Enough with the scare tactics. If you guys had done your jobs a little more cleanly and intelligently, it wouldn't have come down to this.

Yeah, because Thai politics was so clean before this. The deluded hypocrisy that comes from those championing this broken court's judgement must be one of the great wonders of the modern world.

Here we have a court that wouldn't be allowed to sit in most of the world because of glaring vested interests, protecting a narrow power grouping by nefarious means.

[terryp]

today is the first step of new corrupt free Thailand .......

[pookiki]

In most democracies, positions such as cabinet ministers or heads of executive agencies serve at the pleasure of the Prime Minister. Irrespective of who is the Prime Minister, the concept of allegiance to the PM is the over-riding consideration to keeping one's post. For any PM to face ouster from office over exercising what should be ordinary executive power clearly illustrates that Thai courts enjoy far too much power over the other two branches of government.

Edited May 6, 2014 by pookiki

[ramrod711]

This cabinet is as dedicated, intelligent, committed and capable as the crew of a Korean ferry.

[h90]

In most democracies, positions such as cabinet ministers or heads of executive agencies serve at the pleasure of the Prime Minister. Irrespective of who is the Prime Minister, the concept of allegiance to the PM is the over-riding consideration to keeping one's post. For any PM to face ouster from office over exercising what should be ordinary executive power clearly illustrates that Thai courts enjoy far too much power over the other two branches of government.

not long ago in Austria the Army boss had to be reinstalled, after he was removed by the defense minister for speaking out another opinion that his boss orders.

And there is no doubt that Austria is a mature democracy.

[siampolee]

This is the answer to the rumoured chaos that Charupong and his band of fiddlers predict..

Edited May 6, 2014 by siampolee

[seajae]

these idiots keep threatening violence if they are found guilty and removed yet they still say they are democratic but that must only apply if they get what they want, otherwise they will set the red thugs onto everyone to start shooting and blowing everyone up. In any orther country they would be held in contemp for threatening the courts and the judges, pathetic morons.

[issanaus]

If the CT-IM speculation is correct then I hope that in setting up a new caretaker government that level heads prevail. It would be unwise to install a CT PM and government that would be divisive. I personally think that his threats are ill advise and not helpful to anyone, also I don't believe that there is the willingness that he thinks/claims to have for "reds" to got to the street. However an unwise selection of a caretaker PM and Cabinet may make his threats more realistic and dangerous.

Thailand needs evolution not revolution and the more that either side swings the political pendulum the harder it will be to resolve the issues that divide the extremes and disengage the centre of the population.

[pookiki]

In most democracies, positions such as cabinet ministers or heads of executive agencies serve at the pleasure of the Prime Minister. Irrespective of who is the Prime Minister, the concept of allegiance to the PM is the over-riding consideration to keeping one's post. For any PM to face ouster from office over exercising what should be ordinary executive power clearly illustrates that Thai courts enjoy far too much power over the other two branches of government.

not long ago in Austria the Army boss had to be reinstalled, after he was removed by the defense minister for speaking out another opinion that his boss orders.

And there is no doubt that Austria is a mature democracy.

1. And what would have happened if the Chancellor ordered the removal? 2. Was the Defense Minister subject to removal by the Austrian courts?

[bkkjames]

Tomorrow Noon is the verdict

[h90]

In most democracies, positions such as cabinet ministers or heads of executive agencies serve at the pleasure of the Prime Minister. Irrespective of who is the Prime Minister, the concept of allegiance to the PM is the over-riding consideration to keeping one's post. For any PM to face ouster from office over exercising what should be ordinary executive power clearly illustrates that Thai courts enjoy far too much power over the other two branches of government.

not long ago in Austria the Army boss had to be reinstalled, after he was removed by the defense minister for speaking out another opinion that his boss orders.

And there is no doubt that Austria is a mature democracy.

1. And what would have happened if the Chancellor ordered the removal? 2. Was the Defense Minister subject to removal by the Austrian courts?

1. If the Chancellor would have ordered the removal the same would have happened because you can't remove civil servants without very good reason. That is to prevent abuse of power.

2. No there is no law for this. But of course he was replaced not long after it. Actually everyone had the opinion that he should step back.

[Scamper]

Let's get this straight. Charupong - the man who at the infamous UDD rally of February 23 - endorsed a UDD platform - a platform that included secession, going after the independent agencies, and calling for ten million Thais to arm themselves with guns. This is the man who is worried about chaos ? And is it by any chance the kind of chaos that the UDD promises if the " wrong " ruling is given ? Perhaps Charupong - who knows more about chaos, inciting chaos, and the UDD than any other Pheu Thai " cabinet " member ( outside of an honourable mention to Nattawut " I will take responsibility, my brothers " Saikua, who incredibly poses as the Agriculture Minister ) - can enlighten us on that point. If not, shut up, accept the ruling of the Constitutional Court, and sit down.

[Jack Mountain]

The verdict will be, solly we need more time to make a decision, maybe next month ...

[ratcatcher]

Tomorrow Noon is the verdict

HIGH NOON.

Do not forsake me, oh, my darlins,

On this, our wedding my judgement day.

Do not forsake me, oh, my darlins,

Wait; wait alone.

I do not know what fate awaits me.

I only know I must be brave.

Ned Washington (with apologies for edit)

[Misterwhisper]

Uhm... the way I see it, there already was more than enough chaos while the cabinet was IN office (mostly thanks to its ineptitude, I might add). Sometimes those PTP chums really seem to think they are indispensable and irreplaceable. Not.

But then again, I am perhaps just a sarcastic person.

[h90]

Tomorrow Noon is the verdict

really......I must buy drinks for party.....

I must ban my wife from driving the car.....if she turns on the radio and hears that Yingluck is out of office she'll have an accident for sure....

[northernjohn]

Enough with the scare tactics. If you guys had done your jobs a little more cleanly and intelligently, it wouldn't have come down to this.

Yeah, because Thai politics was so clean before this. The deluded hypocrisy that comes from those championing this broken court's judgement must be one of the great wonders of the modern world.

Here we have a court that wouldn't be allowed to sit in most of the world because of glaring vested interests, protecting a narrow power grouping by nefarious means.

protecting a narrow power grouping by nefarious means.

Good to see that you admit it is a narrow power grouping ruling the country. All in the pay or related to Thaksin Shinawatra.

I was wrong I thought you were a hopeless fanatic like the rest of the red shirts. You do have some smarts after all.

[TVGerry]

Enough with the scare tactics. If you guys had done your jobs a little more cleanly and intelligently, it wouldn't have come down to this.

Yeah, because Thai politics was so clean before this. The deluded hypocrisy that comes from those championing this broken court's judgement must be one of the great wonders of the modern world.

Here we have a court that wouldn't be allowed to sit in most of the world because of glaring vested interests, protecting a narrow power grouping by nefarious means.

Here we have a government that wouldn't be allowed to sit in most of the world because of glaring vested interests, protecting a single man and his family by nefarious means.

[jcb2001]

It never ceases to amaze me, the mentality of some of these comments that suggest that the courts are bad.

Did it ever occur to you that Pheu Thai broke the laws while trying to run the government. Do you think the government is immune to any kind of punishment for what they have done? Or should I say, "above the law"?

It seemed to me that Pheu Thai was hell-bent on passing laws that they knew were against the constitution, but did it anyway, just challenging anyone to dispute their actions. Pheu Thai thought that because they controlled the House, they could do anything they pleased, because they had the will of the people. Such a menu for total disaster of their party. Now, they are having to pay the consequences of their actions and they don't want to. Pheu Thai, it's time you paid the piper. Goodbye Yingluck.

[kingalfred]

Let's get this straight. Charupong - the man who at the infamous UDD rally of February 23 - endorsed a UDD platform - a platform that included secession, going after the independent agencies, and calling for ten million Thais to arm themselves with guns. This is the man who is worried about chaos ? And is it by any chance the kind of chaos that the UDD promises if the " wrong " ruling is given ? Perhaps Charupong - who knows more about chaos, inciting chaos, and the UDD than any other Pheu Thai " cabinet " member ( outside of an honourable mention to Nattawut " I will take responsibility, my brothers " Saikua, who incredibly poses as the Agriculture Minister ) - can enlighten us on that point. If not, shut up, accept the ruling of the Constitutional Court, and sit down.

Charupong ,,,,hmm .hypocrite is too soft a description for the lying creep

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Enough with the scare tactics. If you guys had done your jobs a little more cleanly and intelligently, it wouldn't have come down to this.

Yeah, because Thai politics was so clean before this. The deluded hypocrisy that comes from those championing this broken court's judgement must be one of the great wonders of the modern world.

Here we have a court that wouldn't be allowed to sit in most of the world because of glaring vested interests, protecting a narrow power grouping by nefarious means.

So what do you propose?

[ratcatcher]

Tomorrow Noon is the verdict

really......I must buy drinks for party.....

I must ban my wife from driving the car.....if she turns on the radio and hears that Yingluck is out of office she'll have an accident for sure....

"..........hears that Yingluck is out of office...."

Some say that Yingluck spent most of her time out of her office while in office.

[kingalfred]

It never ceases to amaze me, the mentality of some of these comments that suggest that the courts are bad.

Did it ever occur to you that Pheu Thai broke the laws while trying to run the government. Do you think the government is immune to any kind of punishment for what they have done? Or should I say, "above the law"?

It seemed to me that Pheu Thai was hell-bent on passing laws that they knew were against the constitution, but did it anyway, just challenging anyone to dispute their actions. Pheu Thai thought that because they controlled the House, they could do anything they pleased, because they had the will of the people. Such a menu for total disaster of their party. Now, they are having to pay the consequences of their actions and they don't want to. Pheu Thai, it's time you paid the piper. Goodbye Yingluck.

they have thought they were above the law since their criminal-in-chief in Dubai gave the lead .The attitude of" We have the corrupted votes of our masses and we can do what we please " PT definition of Democracy

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[pookiki]

In most democracies, positions such as cabinet ministers or heads of executive agencies serve at the pleasure of the Prime Minister. Irrespective of who is the Prime Minister, the concept of allegiance to the PM is the over-riding consideration to keeping one's post. For any PM to face ouster from office over exercising what should be ordinary executive power clearly illustrates that Thai courts enjoy far too much power over the other two branches of government.

not long ago in Austria the Army boss had to be reinstalled, after he was removed by the defense minister for speaking out another opinion that his boss orders.

And there is no doubt that Austria is a mature democracy.

1. And what would have happened if the Chancellor ordered the removal? 2. Was the Defense Minister subject to removal by the Austrian courts?

1. If the Chancellor would have ordered the removal the same would have happened because you can't remove civil servants without very good reason. That is to prevent abuse of power.

2. No there is no law for this. But of course he was replaced not long after it. Actually everyone had the opinion that he should step back.

So, would I be correct in saying that the only recourse for a 'civil servant' in Austria who believes he/she has been removed improperly is to seek reinstatement? There is no separate action by the courts for the person who removed him/her. And this is the way it should be. You don't get two bites of the apple.