ChrisY1 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 CAPO at this point has not been able to broadcast announcements on Channels 3, 5, 7, and Thai PBS. Channel 9 still covers CAPO announcements. Pheu Thai had been also able to get on Channel 11's signal, but it seems that was short-lived. The narrative of Pheu Thai has thus been compromised, and CAPO's increasingly surreal announcements are now reaching a diminished audience. From every conceivable and practical standpoint, the Pheu Thai administration has ceased to function. They can just basically stand still while the courts and public opinion surrounds it. It needs to be reiterated - they have no constitutionally elected prime minister - either through a quorum-filled parliament or the Senate in the event of a quorum-less parliament - they have half a cabinet, they have no legislative power, they have no parliament, and they have no public mandate. And in fact, there is no present path for an election for three reasons - 1) things on the ground are as unsettled - and likely more so - than the previous election. Under such conditions an election could not be successfully held. 2) Pheu Thai has tried to impose a clause in a new decree whereby the EC can postpone the election again if it has difficulties with the poll. Such a clause has never been included in an election decree before, and could be successfully challenged constitutionally. You simply can't have an election clause that includes an optional moving election date. 3 ) As the man picked by Phue Thai was done outside the provisions of the constitution, he has not the authority to set an election date. In short, the Pheu Thai administration is frozen in a state of paralysis. It's only a matter of time, and not so long, that this administration will realise that's it over....they are gradually becoming more and more ineffective and disfunctional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post banglassie Posted May 10, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) Is it only me or does he looks more and more like Kim jong Il or Un? or Pol Pot???1. How the **** can a former corrupt politician be the leader for a corruption free nation?? 2. What gives him the right to go against every law in this nation? The people?? What people?? Oh, The people that surrounds him!! But then.. What about the rest of the nation?? Oh, they are too stupid to have a voice in the game! 3. How many final pushes will we need to see before this fool is gone? Imagine the masses of the North and North East coming to Bkk as well now? Who's masses would be bigger?? Now they won't come cause they need to work for lost rice money etc.. But still... Some of you may know the saying in Thai that "when you once ride the tiger you can't jump off or the tiger will eat you". I understand that he is riding on the tiger, and I understand that in his own interest he can not stop, there are only three options, 1. Win, 2. Prison, 3. the more unlikely good compromise (wish he completely seems to refuse..)I see a scenario similar to the Cambodian, when the masses invaded PP and everyone cheered them, only to hours later be pushed out of the city to work in the countryside... Ok, that's an exaggeration, I don't believe it will be that bad at all. But in terms of power abuse he is definitely not better than Thaksin or Hun Sen...I'm no red Shirt, I'm really not fan of the Shinawatra clan, I see them more as a South East Asian Rockafeller-gang...Yes, I would prefer to see Abbhisit in office as PM again than any Peua Thai minister. But it doesn't mean I think Abbhisit is the ultimate politician.. And he has many faults as well. But at least he IS a true politician, at least as true as they get here.I would prefer to see a new guy appear, someone like Gandhi, appearing from nowhere, completely following the example of a certain old man in this nation who is very loved. And restoring faith among Thais. Unlikely that would happen though..They say the earthquake was a sign of thaksins evil, as it destroyed the temple he "tam bun" in at Chiang Rai. So I guess now we only have to wait for the next earthquake near the Kanchanaburi Dam, and watch Bangkok become the Atlantis of the 21st century. Edited May 10, 2014 by banglassie 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Patje Posted May 10, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2014 Mr Suthep clearly is for freedom of press and speech.... but only if they use his words .... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg71 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Maybe Tv channels should broadcasdt the vice tv expose on the fine yellow shirt sympathizers.You tube "vice tv" to watch for yourselves . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzainoz Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Nah if he was thai he would be like the majority of Thais who want to get rid of sutep and have a vote. Shutting down anyone who opposes him or his yellow thugs. Anyone who condones this idiots actions is as fruity as this fascist ! You just do not get it What use is a vote if you can only vote for 1 party you may just as well say PTP wins by default This is what you call freedom of speech and democracy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piichai Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Imagine the masses of the North and North East coming to Bkk as well now? Who's masses would be bigger?? Now they won't come cause they need to work for lost rice money etc.. But still... Thank you for the "lost rice money" comment; made my day. Looks like we know who's masses are bigger. Richard Barrow photo taken today at 11AM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzainoz Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 And the fascist dictator controls the media so that it only airs news supportive of his new judicial/political coup govt ... all this before we see any details of his proposed reforms! ... all without consulting the people. This man shows contempt for freedom of speech, he uses threats and intimidation to get his own way, he preaches like he's a god, he denies people the right to vote, he has a long history of nepotism and corruption, he has a vigilante deposed monk as a side kick ... omg people can't you see the writing on the wall? Are you so blinded by your hatred of PTP that you fail to see you jumping out of the pot and into the fire. This man will drag Thailand back into the fuedal dark ages of people disappearing in the dark of night .... he is cut from the same cloth as Sadam and Pol Pot ... oh well som nam na Sent from my GT-N5100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Okay thats you opinion and on this forum you have the right to give it So as you demand this right for you Why do you not demand the same rights for the Thai people No 1) Freedom of speech by all parties in all areas No 2) Section 102 Enforced A person under any of the following prohibitions shall have no right to be a candidate in an election of members of the House of Representatives: (6) having been expelled, dismissed or removed from the official service, a State agency or a State enterprise on the ground of dishonest performance of duties or corruption; 3) All parties yellow and red to abide by the rule of law Here there is no bias as all should be for all parties 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzainoz Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Child's mind in a man's body. Child's mind in a national body. Must be why they've lost every single election for over ten years. Oh but Thaksin bought all the votes.... er, no. Or maybe it was impossible to win as the opposite party controlled the North where free speech is not allowed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzainoz Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Imagine the masses of the North and North East coming to Bkk as well now? Who's masses would be bigger?? Now they won't come cause they need to work for lost rice money etc.. But still... Thank you for the "lost rice money" comment; made my day. Looks like we know who's masses are bigger. Richard Barrow photo taken today at 11AM. That is an unfair comment Look at all the empty mats these are for those who they hope will come and will be counted i the final count as representing those who would have come but couldn't 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banglassie Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) Imagine the masses of the North and North East coming to Bkk as well now? Who's masses would be bigger?? Now they won't come cause they need to work for lost rice money etc.. But still... Thank you for the "lost rice money" comment; made my day. Looks like we know who's masses are bigger. Richard Barrow photo taken today at 11AM. You just proved my statement even more. Without funds from the Shinawatra's people can't leave work to come. But come to Isan and hear people speak. They are not few that would love to go nuts in Bkk as well. But right now my Father in Law (who's extremely red, even though his daughter works for Nai Luang...) works from 5:00 am to 8:00 pm, and hardly has time to go visit our dying grandmother. Go joining some nuts protest might not really be a first hand choice for many.. And I'm quite happy for that since I don't want anything like 2010 to take place again... Edited May 10, 2014 by banglassie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 CAPO at this point has not been able to broadcast announcements on Channels 3, 5, 7, and Thai PBS. Channel 9 still covers CAPO announcements. Pheu Thai had been also able to get on Channel 11's signal, but it seems that was short-lived. The narrative of Pheu Thai has thus been compromised, and CAPO's increasingly surreal announcements are now reaching a diminished audience. From every conceivable and practical standpoint, the Pheu Thai administration has ceased to function. They can just basically stand still while the courts and public opinion surrounds it. It needs to be reiterated - they have no constitutionally elected prime minister - either through a quorum-filled parliament or the Senate in the event of a quorum-less parliament - they have half a cabinet, they have no legislative power, they have no parliament, and they have no public mandate. And in fact, there is no present path for an election for three reasons - 1) things on the ground are as unsettled - and likely more so - than the previous election. Under such conditions an election could not be successfully held. 2) Pheu Thai has tried to impose a clause in a new decree whereby the EC can postpone the election again if it has difficulties with the poll. Such a clause has never been included in an election decree before, and could be successfully challenged constitutionally. You simply can't have an election clause that includes an optional moving election date. 3 ) As the man picked by Phue Thai was done outside the provisions of the constitution, he has not the authority to set an election date. In short, the Pheu Thai administration is frozen in a state of paralysis. Perceived difficulties in holding the election is not a legal.reason to be allowed to postpone it. By law the EC MUST continue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jayjayjayjay Posted May 10, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2014 It's so clear why some of you are so supportive of this guy -- not. Suthep may well be a nut, he may well be all you say, without a person like this to do something what on earth will this Land be like. Go think, if it was a jelly fish opposing the wrongs I would support it's healthy, YOU ???? The country has got to where it is quite successfully! "What on earth will this Land be like"... Well a hell of a lot better without this psycho mutant! Thailand does not need his sort of elite promotion. It needs rule by one vote obe person... Your blinded by a belief he is a messiah. Your delusional if you think he is the way out! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fat Haggis Posted May 10, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2014 Considering that perhaps most of the farangs here can't speak Thai anyway what's the big deal about broadcasting whatever news they want? The PTP have their channels the PDRC/dems have theirs if you don't want to watch either watch something else. This is just more intimidation by the PDRC and I'd love to see Surhep in the Korat Mall on a podium talking to the "majority" about his reforms and preaching to the alleged masses of reformists everyone keeps referring to in areas North of Bangkok! But he won't as he doesn't have the bottle nor the support it's claimed by some posters here either ! But it's up to the Thais to sort this out not the highly strung and animated farangs who seem to sit at their keyboards all day slagging anyone who doesn't see Suthep as a bigger problem and then labels those as reds sympathisers and seem to know other peoples minds better than them!! I'm a guest here in Thailand and TVF I don't really care what people think of my opinions as they don't mean sweet FA to the voting Thai and some farangs are taking views from their wives as they're too scared to tell them they're listening to and following lunatics and that goes for BOTH sides. I can assure you the village I live in really doesn't care about the shenanigans in Bangkok they're too busy with their daily lives and trying to make a living . Nothing has changed in the 2 years I've been here and I suspect there's hundreds if not thousands of similar small villages. Thai politics are best left to the Thais to sort out and we shouldn't all forget that most of is came here because it wasn't that rosy on our birth countries, and had similar issues with the way on which the country was run ;-) it's no different here and there's no point in getting so worked up about issues only the Thai people can resolve. If Suthep gets control of the country so be it it's their (Thais and PRs) issues to resolve not opinionated spouses of Thai women with zero say in this country be the palm tree in the wind and don't draw attention to yourself and life will go on as it has done already. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellred Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Will be hilarious when the reforms are in place and the reds still win the election 5555 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padeakin Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 It's so clear why some of you are so supportive of this guy -- not. Suthep may well be a nut, he may well be all you say, without a person like this to do something what on earth will this Land be like. Go think, if it was a jelly fish opposing the wrongs I would support it's healthy, YOU ???? There is a right and a wrong way to go about achieving change, the wrong way is to support power hungry, idiot, who does not negotiate and help him to seize power, history tells us this is a very dangerous thing to do. The right way is to use the democratic process, even though it is slow and painful. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusd Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I think many reds have change names on here. Ashamed ate you all? Sutheo is the only one trying for positive change. He may be wrong in many ways but from small things little things grow Marcusd. Via tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luk Mhee Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 why is this idiot still. Talking?...... Because some idiots wont listen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piichai Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 It's so clear why some of you are so supportive of this guy -- not. Suthep may well be a nut, he may well be all you say, without a person like this to do something what on earth will this Land be like. Go think, if it was a jelly fish opposing the wrongs I would support it's healthy, YOU ???? There is a right and a wrong way to go about achieving change, the wrong way is to support power hungry, idiot, who does not negotiate and help him to seize power, history tells us this is a very dangerous thing to do. The right way is to use the democratic process, even though it is slow and painful. Wait, what? Didn't Suthep ask to meet with Yingluck? It took about 100 working days to write the US Constitution. Expect the framing of reforms to take as long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rreddin Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 It's so clear why some of you are so supportive of this guy -- not. Suthep may well be a nut, he may well be all you say, without a person like this to do something what on earth will this Land be like. Go think, if it was a jelly fish opposing the wrongs I would support it's healthy, YOU ???? There is a right and a wrong way to go about achieving change, the wrong way is to support power hungry, idiot, who does not negotiate and help him to seize power, history tells us this is a very dangerous thing to do. The right way is to use the democratic process, even though it is slow and painful. You are correct and i support what you say. However, this is not about achieving the so called but unspecified reforms to bring about change for the better. It is a power grab plain and simple. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I think many reds have change names on here. Ashamed ate you all? Sutheo is the only one trying for positive change. He may be wrong in many ways but from small things little things grow Marcusd. Via tapatalk Regardless of which side of the fence you view it from, red or yellow, it's ALL a total mess! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Nutter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsv1238 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 CAPO at this point has not been able to broadcast announcements on Channels 3, 5, 7, and Thai PBS. Channel 9 still covers CAPO announcements. Pheu Thai had been also able to get on Channel 11's signal, but it seems that was short-lived. The narrative of Pheu Thai has thus been compromised, and CAPO's increasingly surreal announcements are now reaching a diminished audience. From every conceivable and practical standpoint, the Pheu Thai administration has ceased to function. They can just basically stand still while the courts and public opinion surrounds it. It needs to be reiterated - they have no constitutionally elected prime minister - either through a quorum-filled parliament or the Senate in the event of a quorum-less parliament - they have half a cabinet, they have no legislative power, they have no parliament, and they have no public mandate. And in fact, there is no present path for an election for three reasons - 1) things on the ground are as unsettled - and likely more so - than the previous election. Under such conditions an election could not be successfully held. 2) Pheu Thai has tried to impose a clause in a new decree whereby the EC can postpone the election again if it has difficulties with the poll. Such a clause has never been included in an election decree before, and could be successfully challenged constitutionally. You simply can't have an election clause that includes an optional moving election date. 3 ) As the man picked by Phue Thai was done outside the provisions of the constitution, he has not the authority to set an election date. In short, the Pheu Thai administration is frozen in a state of paralysis. Fascist sympathizer Sent from my SM-N900T using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkerry Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Seems we can look forward to the day soon when our choice of television viewing consists of Bluesky1, Bluesky3, Bluesky5, Bluesky7, Bluesky9, Bluesky11, plus the Buddha enlightenment channel hosted by the congenial Luang Pu with friends in black balaclavas. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Baerboxer Posted May 10, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2014 Honestly, what an ugly, fascist, corrupt thug of an individual. Sickening. And no, to the simpletons on here, that doesn't make me a Shin fan. Exactly, me too. Yep - difficult to tell one side from the other - Suthep's gang or Thaksin's gang. Pity all those decent Thai people who came out to protest against the Amnesty Bill fiasco or who are still waiting payment for rice pledged to Thaksin's gang in good faith. What a great choice they have when voting. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 CAPO at this point has not been able to broadcast announcements on Channels 3, 5, 7, and Thai PBS. Channel 9 still covers CAPO announcements. Pheu Thai had been also able to get on Channel 11's signal, but it seems that was short-lived. The narrative of Pheu Thai has thus been compromised, and CAPO's increasingly surreal announcements are now reaching a diminished audience. From every conceivable and practical standpoint, the Pheu Thai administration has ceased to function. They can just basically stand still while the courts and public opinion surrounds it. It needs to be reiterated - they have no constitutionally elected prime minister - either through a quorum-filled parliament or the Senate in the event of a quorum-less parliament - they have half a cabinet, they have no legislative power, they have no parliament, and they have no public mandate. And in fact, there is no present path for an election for three reasons - 1) things on the ground are as unsettled - and likely more so - than the previous election. Under such conditions an election could not be successfully held. 2) Pheu Thai has tried to impose a clause in a new decree whereby the EC can postpone the election again if it has difficulties with the poll. Such a clause has never been included in an election decree before, and could be successfully challenged constitutionally. You simply can't have an election clause that includes an optional moving election date. 3 ) As the man picked by Phue Thai was done outside the provisions of the constitution, he has not the authority to set an election date. In short, the Pheu Thai administration is frozen in a state of paralysis. Fascist sympathizer Sent from my SM-N900T using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Are you really? Oh well, each to his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) And the fascist dictator controls the media so that it only airs news supportive of his new judicial/political coup govt ... all this before we see any details of his proposed reforms! ... all without consulting the people. This man shows contempt for freedom of speech, he uses threats and intimidation to get his own way, he preaches like he's a god, he denies people the right to vote, he has a long history of nepotism and corruption, he has a vigilante deposed monk as a side kick ... omg people can't you see the writing on the wall? Are you so blinded by your hatred of PTP that you fail to see you jumping out of the pot and into the fire. This man will drag Thailand back into the fuedal dark ages of people disappearing in the dark of night .... he is cut from the same cloth as Sadam and Pol Pot ... oh well som nam na Sent from my GT-N5100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Lol. I think you, and a few others have been had by a pro. Suthep is but a side show. He is there to distract you, like the pretty little girls singing jingles side stage during break time. He was never intended to be a PM, dictator, or whatever, and I can't find any Thai who thinks it even reasonable. Suthep is doing a job and he is a protected man, he can (and does) say anything he likes, the more outlandish the better. Some smart owl on here yesterday said something about listening to all the (international) media and political speak, "Are you confused?, just as you should be, don't understand?, even better.....". Of course it is Thaksin and his scheming gang they want to confuse, you are just collateral damage, falang collateral damage, the Thai all know and are well ahead of you. But honestly, do enjoy the show, it's a good one. Edited May 10, 2014 by rabas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commercial HEO2 Diver Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Pyscho! What a dweeb. That's extraordinarily shallow, new yoiker. But actually, That's all I expect from losers. People like you wouldn't understand, your first knee jerk response is to deride ... I see a battle for the preservation of the Cultural & Traditional Thailand that most of us intelligent folk came to here to love, admire and share in. Sober up for 10 minutes and see ...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 CAPO at this point has not been able to broadcast announcements on Channels 3, 5, 7, and Thai PBS. Channel 9 still covers CAPO announcements. Pheu Thai had been also able to get on Channel 11's signal, but it seems that was short-lived. The narrative of Pheu Thai has thus been compromised, and CAPO's increasingly surreal announcements are now reaching a diminished audience. From every conceivable and practical standpoint, the Pheu Thai administration has ceased to function. They can just basically stand still while the courts and public opinion surrounds it. It needs to be reiterated - they have no constitutionally elected prime minister - either through a quorum-filled parliament or the Senate in the event of a quorum-less parliament - they have half a cabinet, they have no legislative power, they have no parliament, and they have no public mandate. And in fact, there is no present path for an election for three reasons - 1) things on the ground are as unsettled - and likely more so - than the previous election. Under such conditions an election could not be successfully held. 2) Pheu Thai has tried to impose a clause in a new decree whereby the EC can postpone the election again if it has difficulties with the poll. Such a clause has never been included in an election decree before, and could be successfully challenged constitutionally. You simply can't have an election clause that includes an optional moving election date. 3 ) As the man picked by Phue Thai was done outside the provisions of the constitution, he has not the authority to set an election date. In short, the Pheu Thai administration is frozen in a state of paralysis. Shouldn't all sides be heard by the public? If you're worried about 'surreal announcements', lets start with yours. Shouldn't all sides be heard by the public? I agree 100 % with that. On the other hand, if you ask the average Somchai: what is the difference between PDRC’s version of ‘democracy’ and the ThaiRouge version? I guess you know the answer. This Nation never got past the phrase of Decimus Iunius Iuvenalis, known in English as Juvenal, a Roman poet 100 AD, who said: “give ‘em Bread and circuses" (or bread and games). The Thai media’s and “education system’s”doctrine for the last 50 years is not much different, it just relates to rice and soap operas: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagler Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) It's so clear why some of you are so supportive of this guy -- not. Suthep may well be a nut, he may well be all you say, without a person like this to do something what on earth will this Land be like. Go think, if it was a jelly fish opposing the wrongs I would support it's healthy, YOU ???? .....Better watch out... pretty soon his next demand will be no foreigners. Give the man a prize ! No matter who is "in front" when things go completely out of control and the real Thai on Thai violence is at its bloody heights the "reunification" of the country will inevitably begin with the demonising of the Falang. Reasonably lucid people who have been in and around the KIngdom for enough years to have seen a few coups come and go know what is coming this time. It is a "perfect storm " of various factors all coming together to create the most dangerous situation I have ever witnessed in the country. I have not seen in over 25 years so many of the foreign "quiet achievers" in business in Thailand making preparations for asset relocation and personal departures as I have in the last 7 months. Dark days are coming soon for non Thai nationals in the Nation. Make sure you have your contingency plans in order and have made advance moves in regards to your business and personal assets in country. Best of luck. Edited May 10, 2014 by hagler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcb2001 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Imagine the masses of the North and North East coming to Bkk as well now? Who's masses would be bigger?? Now they won't come cause they need to work for lost rice money etc.. But still... Thank you for the "lost rice money" comment; made my day. Looks like we know who's masses are bigger. Richard Barrow photo taken today at 11AM. That is an unfair comment Look at all the empty mats these are for those who they hope will come and will be counted i the final count as representing those who would have come but couldn't The reality is, Thaksin is not doing anything to help these poor NE Issan farmers. He is just using them for his own gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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