Two killed, 21 wounded in attack on Thai protest camp: officials

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Erawan Center: 2 killed and 21 injured at Democracy Monument

BANGKOK, 15 May 2014 (NNT) - The Erawan Emergency Medical Service Center of the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration has reported that at least 2 people were killed at the protest site near the Democracy Monument early this morning..

At around 2:45am this morning, Erawan Center received a report that gun shots and an explosion had been heard at the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) protest camp near the Democracy Monument. According to an initial report, the incident killed 2 people and injured at least 21 others. All of the injured were immediately taken to Hua Chiew Hospital and BMA General Hospital. The two people killed were identified as Narayod Chanpetch (21) and Somkuan Nuankanai (51).

The center also made known that since the violence broke out in front of Ramkhamhaeng University on November 30th last year, 24 people have so far been killed and 781 others wounded in politically-motivated incidents.


-- NNT 2014-05-15

[newcomer71]

It's sadder by the day to read Thailand news...

This country that was a peaceful spot in SE Asia is becoming every day more similar to the Far West...

Unhappily greedy people are leaders of this Nation, and they will never leave the grip of power, causing more harm to the country, more death on the streets, and anarchy to spread.

How I wish to listen some wisdom word from both side leaders, where they both condemn violence and thuggish actions instead spew more poisonous words and make situation more tense by the days.

I wish everyone that is involved and used by the greedy people of both sides could reason about what's happening and stop this crazy time.

[geriatrickid]

Smelling civil war.

When the judges are just puppets and the police not allowed to make its job => only violence remains.

Explain your police remark.

The rest is just cretinous

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The military high command told the police not to take forceful action against the PDRC protestors.

It started back in November when multiple statements were made.

For example;

Explaining how a crowd of unarmed civilians was able to break through the main gate into the army compound, Gen. Prayuth said: “The army did not want to use any force and we didn’t view the protesters as enemies or opponents. They are actually Thais who have different political opinions.”

Thanyarat Doksone And Jocelyn Gecker, Associated Press | November 29, 2013

The police have been complaining that they are not allowed to take effective action. Remember the protest by the police in December when one of their officers was murdered?

BANGKOK, Thailand -- Thai police staged a protest Monday to show their frustration after weeks of dealing with aggressive and often violent anti-government demonstrators, with officers saying that the order for them to show restraint has left them vulnerable and humiliated.

About 500 police with family and friends gathered in a public square near the main protest camp in Bangkok, four days after a policeman was shot dead in a pitched battle with demonstrators who were trying to stop candidates from registering for February elections. Most police are allowed to carry only batons and riot shields, while selected officers are equipped with tear gas canisters and guns to fire rubber bullets. Orders to show restraint have resulted in police several times being trapped by demonstrators and forced to bargain for their release.

The Associated Press Published Monday, December 30, 2013 8:49AM

Are you defending the Thai police force?

No. Just posting relevant background information.

The police have been blocked from taking decisive action against protestors.

Are you expecting the Thai police who have only batons and shields to take on heavily armed protestors? Only some segments of the police have been allowed to use teargas and other non lethal means. We saw what happened when they defended themselves against the fake monk who sought to enter the building the police were in. The police were forced to crawl to the monk and beg forgiveness.

[deepcell]

I think the political instability is not happening only in Thailand but across the globe, we must realize that we are in crisis, humanity is in crisis. By the way my sincere condolences for the deaths.

[Chupup]

Are the pro-Govt lackeys still going to try to pretend this is all self-inflicted by PDRC? Or can we lay it to bed now that the pro-Govt supporters are attacking the anti-Govt supporters and have been doing so since this all started?

Sounds VERY much like the truth to me

[AleG]

The Thai people want their country back.This group of a handful of protestors and some elite friends are commandeering their country and they have had enough. The extremists will be the first to speak with actions when words are not loud enough, but eventually the usurped majority will stand up and take back and defend what is theirs if it continues to be denied them.

So, PDRC, expect more, much more, if you continue to deny the people their democratic rights.

You do realize you are justifying and legitimizing terrorism, don't you?

No. Just posting relevant background information.

The police have been blocked from taking decisive action against protestors.

Are you expecting the Thai police who have only batons and shields to take on heavily armed protestors? Only some segments of the police have been allowed to use teargas and other non lethal means. We saw what happened when they defended themselves against the fake monk who sought to enter the building the police were in. The police were forced to crawl to the monk and beg forgiveness.

Nothing is stopping the police from finding and arresting the terrorists behind the dozens of attacks against anti-government protestors and innocent bystanders.

Since they are able to find and arrest people that have attacked or defended against Red Shirts it is not a matter of them being unable to do their job, rather that they are unwilling to do so.

[Chupup]

Doesn't anybody recognise that Thailand is a democracy and should be proud of that? Some may not like the government but you change it through the ballot box not with the gun.

I read so many things here about corruption etc., but is it really any different anywhere else?

I have arrived from the UK and are the politicians there squeaky clean? I think not judging by how many went to jail and many that should have gone to prison for blatantly fiddling their expenses.

Please excuse my ignorance in Thai politics but having only been here a couple of months it seems to me that one side cannot win an election legally so they resort to bringing down the government in non-constitutional ways.

That is not how a democracy works.

I don't know if Yingluck was good or bad, it depends who you talk too, but she did hold the prime office which should be respected. If Thailand doesn't want her put your cross somewhere else.

Thailand is a wonderful country full of so many good things it must find a way to solve this crisis legally and within its constitution not with threats and disruption.

You should do a little research , then read your own post again, as for UK MPs fiddling their expenses

they went to jail, here billions are fiddled and MPs walk

[robblok]

Explain your police remark.

The rest is just cretinous

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

The military high command told the police not to take forceful action against the PDRC protestors.

It started back in November when multiple statements were made.

For example;

Explaining how a crowd of unarmed civilians was able to break through the main gate into the army compound, Gen. Prayuth said: “The army did not want to use any force and we didn’t view the protesters as enemies or opponents. They are actually Thais who have different political opinions.”

Thanyarat Doksone And Jocelyn Gecker, Associated Press | November 29, 2013

The police have been complaining that they are not allowed to take effective action. Remember the protest by the police in December when one of their officers was murdered?

BANGKOK, Thailand -- Thai police staged a protest Monday to show their frustration after weeks of dealing with aggressive and often violent anti-government demonstrators, with officers saying that the order for them to show restraint has left them vulnerable and humiliated.

About 500 police with family and friends gathered in a public square near the main protest camp in Bangkok, four days after a policeman was shot dead in a pitched battle with demonstrators who were trying to stop candidates from registering for February elections. Most police are allowed to carry only batons and riot shields, while selected officers are equipped with tear gas canisters and guns to fire rubber bullets. Orders to show restraint have resulted in police several times being trapped by demonstrators and forced to bargain for their release.

The Associated Press Published Monday, December 30, 2013 8:49AM

Are you defending the Thai police force?

No. Just posting relevant background information.

The police have been blocked from taking decisive action against protestors.

Are you expecting the Thai police who have only batons and shields to take on heavily armed protestors? Only some segments of the police have been allowed to use teargas and other non lethal means. We saw what happened when they defended themselves against the fake monk who sought to enter the building the police were in. The police were forced to crawl to the monk and beg forgiveness.

I will post some relevant information too.

The only time that the reds got caught with weapons (remember that war arsenal) was with a combined force of army and police. The police alone who are known red sympathizers never found a thing. So one can wonder how effective the police is.

CAPO is protecting the red shirts who never been attacked but do gun down children and then on stage gloat about it. Only to be hushed silent because its a major PR disaster.

[rabas]

This is very worrisome, but predictable. I jokingly suggested yesterday that Thaksin will hit the ceiling when he sees images of Suthep sitting, smiling at Govt House under a large picture of His Majesty. The symbolism should be clear for those who understand what's going on and know Thaksin's past. Last night's attack at Victory Monument was a lets kill as many as we can move, instead of blowing up a few to intimidate. There was also an unusual attack at Chaengwattana, a long, slow series of ping pong bombs interspersed with M79s. Looked like the ping pongs were being used to draw the guards out in the open for targeting. Things have changed.

Edited May 15, 2014 by rabas

[monkeycountry]

Upon hearing the news about the attack on anti-government protesters, CAPO chief Chalerm immediately decided to reinforce the protection of the pro-government protesters!!!

[Chupup]

It would be nice to see a positive verbal condemnation from Yingluck against these bombings and shootings. It might make some of us think she had the interests of Thailand at heart.

Yes i agree, but don't hold your breath

[Nickymaster]

Explain your police remark.

The rest is just cretinous

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

The military high command told the police not to take forceful action against the PDRC protestors.

It started back in November when multiple statements were made.

For example;

Explaining how a crowd of unarmed civilians was able to break through the main gate into the army compound, Gen. Prayuth said: The army did not want to use any force and we didnt view the protesters as enemies or opponents. They are actually Thais who have different political opinions.

Thanyarat Doksone And Jocelyn Gecker, Associated Press | November 29, 2013

The police have been complaining that they are not allowed to take effective action. Remember the protest by the police in December when one of their officers was murdered?

BANGKOK, Thailand -- Thai police staged a protest Monday to show their frustration after weeks of dealing with aggressive and often violent anti-government demonstrators, with officers saying that the order for them to show restraint has left them vulnerable and humiliated.

About 500 police with family and friends gathered in a public square near the main protest camp in Bangkok, four days after a policeman was shot dead in a pitched battle with demonstrators who were trying to stop candidates from registering for February elections. Most police are allowed to carry only batons and riot shields, while selected officers are equipped with tear gas canisters and guns to fire rubber bullets. Orders to show restraint have resulted in police several times being trapped by demonstrators and forced to bargain for their release.

The Associated Press Published Monday, December 30, 2013 8:49AM

Are you defending the Thai police force?

No. Just posting relevant background information.

The police have been blocked from taking decisive action against protestors.

Are you expecting the Thai police who have only batons and shields to take on heavily armed protestors? Only some segments of the police have been allowed to use teargas and other non lethal means. We saw what happened when they defended themselves against the fake monk who sought to enter the building the police were in. The police were forced to crawl to the monk and beg forgiveness.

More than 20 anti- government protestors have been killed the last few months. And as you know this includes children. In various cases video footage and pictures are available. Till today the police hasn't caught anybody. They act as if they have no clue where to search.

Just posting relevant background information.

[gchurch259]

NOW ARMY !! Finish the job you started !!

Bought votes is not Democracy the other problem is as Stalin said "It is not the voter, it is the counter who decides elections".

Jerry

[Chupup]

Upon hearing the news about the attack on anti-government protesters, CAPO chief Chalerm immediately decided to reinforce the protection of the pro-government protesters!!!

[Tatsujin]

It would be nice to see a positive verbal condemnation from Yingluck against these bombings and shootings. It might make some of us think she had the interests of Thailand at heart.

Yes i agree, but don't hold your breath

Why would Yingluck now make any statement? She's no longer PM . . . or anything . . .

[HUAHIN62]

The shinas are losing their grip. The red government is gradually being kicked out. The big bad guy in Dubai is not a good loser. He will try to cause destruction and havoc as revenge for sending off his puppet government. Last time there were bombs a bullets and burning buildings. He will try the same this time.

In actual fact he is not a loser as he wins all the elections, more than what can be said of the power grabbing, coup loving Democratic party.

[rabas]

NOW ARMY !! Finish the job you started !!

Bought votes is not Democracy the other problem is as Stalin said "It is not the voter, it is the counter who decides elections".

Jerry

Or like Lenin said, "So, you want to ditch the rulers and have democracy? Watch this...".

[JSPS]

It's tragic that two people lost their lives in this attack.

But it is difficult to know where the lay the blame. Both sides are playing to the domestic and international audience by trying to claim the "victim" card.

"Oh, poor us, see what those meanies did to us?"

Cynical? Guilty? Realistic? Also guilty.

[diehard60]

The shinas are losing their grip. The red government is gradually being kicked out. The big bad guy in Dubai is not a good loser. He will try to cause destruction and havoc as revenge for sending off his puppet government. Last time there were bombs a bullets and burning buildings. He will try the same this time.

The last time it was suthep that did all that. The guy that burned the building was a plant from suthep. check it out dude

[The stuttering parrot]

There's vote buying on both sides so what's new!

The yellows jumped on rent a crowd and they themselves practice this.

Some posters on here want corruption complelty stamped out before elections.

Well it ain't going to happen no matter who's running the show.

And it's not only Thailand who has corrupt governments it's all over the world.

[diehard60]

It is a shame hat some people have to die, but this was all brought on by suthep in the first place. hy you say? Because if he had kept his word (which he won't) when he said if she stepped down and did away with parlament he would stop. But NOOOO suthep is the greediest one of all the politicians. It wants it all HIS way And he say the hell with all Thai people

[Robby nz]

The Thai people want their country back.This group of a handful of protestors and some elite friends are commandeering their country and they have had enough. The extremists will be the first to speak with actions when words are not loud enough, but eventually the usurped majority will stand up and take back and defend what is theirs if it continues to be denied them.

So, PDRC, expect more, much more, if you continue to deny the people their democratic rights.

Yes indeed the people want their country back.

That is why the PDRC is out on the street.

They have had enough of the Thaksin run PT Govt which has enriched themselves at the expense of the country and the people.

Which tried to enact laws that would exempt themselves and their controller from crimes including more than 25,000 cases of corruption now before the NACC.

The people want free and fair elections without intimidation, threats and bribery where every candidate can campaign freely in every electorate.

They want politicians who do not have records of crime and corruption and will work for the people and the country and not for themselves.

They want reforms to the education system so their children can have a world class education with a chance to compete in the world.

They want a justice system that treats everyone as equal.

They want a police force that is fair and impartial.

They want a health system where everyone has the chance of the best care.

They want an end to the corruption which has increased to a massive scale in the last 3 years.

They want freedom of speech and a free press.

That and other freedoms of a true democracy is what the people want and they are getting bombed and shot at on a daily basis by the forces who want things as they are for their own benefit.

[AleG]

The shinas are losing their grip. The red government is gradually being kicked out. The big bad guy in Dubai is not a good loser. He will try to cause destruction and havoc as revenge for sending off his puppet government. Last time there were bombs a bullets and burning buildings. He will try the same this time.

The last time it was suthep that did all that. The guy that burned the building was a plant from suthep. check it out dude

I'll tell you what, you show us the irrefutable proof that Suthep was behind "burning the building" and I quit Thai Visa permanently, if you can't support your post with facts you quit Thai VIsa, sound fair to you?

[ShannonT]

Suthep, the sad little man, is desperate for violence to escalate. He needs it in order to force the army into a coup.

[Mango Bob]

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The Thai people want their country back.This group of a handful of protestors and some elite friends are commandeering their country and they have had enough. The extremists will be the first to speak with actions when words are not loud enough, but eventually the usurped majority will stand up and take back and defend what is theirs if it continues to be denied them.

So, PDRC, expect more, much more, if you continue to deny the people their democratic rights.

Yes indeed the people want their country back.

That is why the PDRC is out on the street.

They have had enough of the Thaksin run PT Govt which has enriched themselves at the expense of the country and the people.

Which tried to enact laws that would exempt themselves and their controller from crimes including more than 25,000 cases of corruption now before the NACC.

The people want free and fair elections without intimidation, threats and bribery where every candidate can campaign freely in every electorate.

They want politicians who do not have records of crime and corruption and will work for the people and the country and not for themselves.

They want reforms to the education system so their children can have a world class education with a chance to compete in the world.

They want a justice system that treats everyone as equal.

They want a police force that is fair and impartial.

They want a health system where everyone has the chance of the best care.

They want an end to the corruption which has increased to a massive scale in the last 3 years.

They want freedom of speech and a free press.

That and other freedoms of a true democracy is what the people want and they are getting bombed and shot at on a daily basis by the forces who want things as they are for their own benefit.

So now you speak for all Thai people. Amazing the farang who is the voice of the Thai people.

[craigt3365]

Several posts have been removed from view for promoting the use of violence. This will not be tolerated. Any further posts like this will result in immediate posting holidays.

Same goes for rumor mongering. Please read this pinned thread. Due to the sensitive political situation here in Thailand, we are enforcing this new rule strongly.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/701310-rumours-and-rumour-mongering-a-warning/

In volatile situations such as what currently exists in Bangkok, rumours, and hearsay can result in people being put in harms way. At this time we heed all members to remember this, and avoid posting inflammatory allegations, rumours, and other harmful posts that could endanger others.

Many members are in and around the areas affected and require accurate, honest, and clear information about what is happening in order to keep themselves and their families safe. It is imperative that all members pitch in to help them with this, be it by providing accurate information, or by self-moderating yourself and stifling your emotions before responding to a topic.

It's at times of crisis like this that people turn to this forum (including all of you) for guidance, and we hope all members will do their bit to help out.

That being said, we will not have any patience for outlandish behaviour right now, Disruptive people will simply be removed.

Those who have been, and are continuing to help give a clear picture to our members and ourselves, you have our thanks.

Thaivisa.com

[Nickymaster]

There's vote buying on both sides so what's new!

The yellows jumped on rent a crowd and they themselves practice this.

Some posters on here want corruption complelty stamped out before elections.

Well it ain't going to happen no matter who's running the show.

And it's not only Thailand who has corrupt governments it's all over the world.

How about agreeing on having governors elected before elections take place?

Edited May 15, 2014 by Nickymaster

[Nickymaster]

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The Thai people want their country back.This group of a handful of protestors and some elite friends are commandeering their country and they have had enough. The extremists will be the first to speak with actions when words are not loud enough, but eventually the usurped majority will stand up and take back and defend what is theirs if it continues to be denied them.

So, PDRC, expect more, much more, if you continue to deny the people their democratic rights.

Yes indeed the people want their country back.

That is why the PDRC is out on the street.

They have had enough of the Thaksin run PT Govt which has enriched themselves at the expense of the country and the people.

Which tried to enact laws that would exempt themselves and their controller from crimes including more than 25,000 cases of corruption now before the NACC.

The people want free and fair elections without intimidation, threats and bribery where every candidate can campaign freely in every electorate.

They want politicians who do not have records of crime and corruption and will work for the people and the country and not for themselves.

They want reforms to the education system so their children can have a world class education with a chance to compete in the world.

They want a justice system that treats everyone as equal.

They want a police force that is fair and impartial.

They want a health system where everyone has the chance of the best care.

They want an end to the corruption which has increased to a massive scale in the last 3 years.

They want freedom of speech and a free press.

That and other freedoms of a true democracy is what the people want and they are getting bombed and shot at on a daily basis by the forces who want things as they are for their own benefit.

So now you speak for all Thai people. Amazing the farang who is the voice of the Thai people.

Well, if you would have taken to time to understand what the PDRC stands for you wouldn't have made such a silly comment.

[Nickymaster]

Suthep, the sad little man, is desperate for violence to escalate. He needs it in order to force the army into a coup.

Are you saying that the PDRC are bombing and killing their own people?

[Tonawatchee]

If only Mr. Rogers could oversee the election.