Popular Post robblok Posted May 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2014 Seemingly harsh but it does make sense. It's time to stop mincing words: The PDRC is a terrorist organization. If a government worker was involved with al-Qaeda or the like they'd face legal action as well. Proof of absence of red intelligence. Normally the terrorist are the one doing killing and terorrising. So far almost all casualties have been on the side of the anti government, including children in trad, celebrated on stage by red leaders. Wonders when terrorists became the terrorized, ah red logic.. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songhua Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 As usual there is Captain Earwax's concern that the "third party" might do them harm. Come on, be honest....you're threatening them, ruling by fear and intimidation. Sickening. Not only that. He's foreseen that they'll be 'breaking into government offices'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djjamie Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 (edited) There is a very very strong case for me to follow Godwin's law after reading this OP and I tellz ya, the discussion does not need to go on for long for it to be applied. So with that said I will stop right there. Edited May 18, 2014 by djjamie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ameadi Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Is CAPO teaching democracy? Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 CAPO are rapidly loosing any of the little credibility and legitimacy they had by making pie in the sky threats like this to make people toe the party line. Just disgusting, control freaks -full stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man River Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 CRAPO will soon be punished for all their crimes Actually no they won't be. That isn't how the system works in Thailand. Just look at how many, from both sides, are walking around with outstanding warrants and you begin to understand. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonao Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 There has been quite a hysterical reaction on this thread by some posters. Its not about having a different political opinion, it sounds like it has gone way beyond that. And keep in mind that yellow shirt supporters don't exactly have the best record in playing clean politics. Their whole political strategy over the last few months is all about dirty tricks and cheap shots against the government, combined with an elaborate legal maneuvers to create an artificial and unnatural political vacuum, that gives them the room and excuse to push forward their undemocratic power grab agenda. instigating violence to trigger a coup is of course their last card. the PDRC (civil?) servants are just doing their part. The fact is, if civil servants are actually guilty of the allegations of CAPO "break-in of government offices, treason and aiding and abetting", then of course they should be sacked and charged. CAPO are threatening them for thinking the wrong thoughts. That is fascism Or they could be warning them against committing a crime. If a policeman warns an unstable agitated person against committing a violent act, is that fascism too ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Local Drunk Posted May 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2014 (edited) Basically, they are civil servants, not PDRC servants, or Suthep servants or yellow shirt servants. If they want to work for another boss, they should resign or be sacked from their current job. No, they aren't PDRC slaves, nor are they the bum kissing Thaksin types. They simply want to express their opinions the same way that you do. Now, I don't know who you work for, but I know of more than a few Thais in the private sector that have been sacked from their jobs for going out and blowing their whistle. It only makes them blow their whistle even louder. You've been fired moonao! You've supported an incestuously despotic and corrupt regime in the lame name of people and democracy. Why are you angry moonao? Is it because of the people that fired you because of your political opinions or because you can't now feed your family. Wanna buy a whistle cheap? Edited May 18, 2014 by Local Drunk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Civil servant having their own opinion and supporting/voting Democrat? No problem. Civil servant privately agreeing with the reasons a government should be over thrown? OK but keep that to yourself. Civil servant actively supporting and participating with a group seeking to over throw the government? Problem. It is really that simple. It only gets convoluted when you factor in your bias and opinion on who is the lessor of the evils here. It is not clear if this government is legal. CAPO with Chalerm and Surapong is most probably illegal. Civil servants who support an illegal government also got a problem.... When that point is made clear, it would certainly change the dynamic but that's not for an employee to decide, or even Suthep. In the meantime, government employees should carry on doing their job best they can and don't get caught up in the idea they are supporting PTP by doing their job. They provide a service to the people, all of them, even us foreigners, regardless of politics. If they want to take to the streets and participate in actions to overthrow the government, resign like Suthep did, and do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonao Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Basically, they are civil servants, not PDRC servants, or Suthep servants or yellow shirt servants. If they want to work for another boss, they should resign or be sacked from their current job. No, they aren't PDRC slaves, nor are they the bum kissing Thaksin types. They simply want to express their opinions the same way that you do. Now, I don't know who you work for, but I know of more than a few Thais in the private sector that have been sacked from their jobs for going out and blowing their whistle. It only makes them blow their whistle even louder. You've been fired moonao! You've supported an incestuously despotic and corrupt regime in the lame name of people and democracy. Why are you angry moonao? Is it because of the people that fired you because of your political opinions or because you can't now feed your family. Wanna buy a whistle cheap? "in the lame name of people and democracy" ? whats so lame about that ? that's the best reason i would think. certainly better than an irrational, bizarre hatred of Thaksin Shinawatra that is seemingly the all consuming agenda of some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lungmi Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Seemingly harsh but it does make sense. It's time to stop mincing words: The PDRC is a terrorist organization. If a government worker was involved with al-Qaeda or the like they'd face legal action as well. You know al-Qaeda very well. Red shirt school diploma? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Buffons. Is a Civil Servant not entitled to a private life wherein they can express their personal opinions Buffons are those who do not understand that you can do whatever you want in your free time, as Puea Thai has stated several times. But you cannot go protest while you are getting paid. Is that really so hard to understand? Say you work and get paid from 8am to 5pm, but you go protest from 9am to 4pm and work just 2 hours. You cant do that. Makes sense? I really hope so. So they don´t have the right to strike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post djjamie Posted May 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2014 Basically, they are civil servants, not PDRC servants, or Suthep servants or yellow shirt servants. If they want to work for another boss, they should resign or be sacked from their current job. Criminal Court: Civil servants who are UDD supporters might be charged. I bet your reply to that would be the court are fascist, biased, DEM orientated entities. How dare the criminal court make rulings on ones freedom of choice. And you would no doubt follow that up with, civil servants are free to support who ever they want which is a principle of democracy. But not knowing the principles of democracy (except elections) I suspect the last bit might not be said by you. The right hand front wheel of a Tesco Lotus shopping trolley has more free will than some all of your comments. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted May 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2014 (edited) There has been quite a hysterical reaction on this thread by some posters. Its not about having a different political opinion, it sounds like it has gone way beyond that. And keep in mind that yellow shirt supporters don't exactly have the best record in playing clean politics. Their whole political strategy over the last few months is all about dirty tricks and cheap shots against the government, combined with an elaborate legal maneuvers to create an artificial and unnatural political vacuum, that gives them the room and excuse to push forward their undemocratic power grab agenda. instigating violence to trigger a coup is of course their last card. the PDRC (civil?) servants are just doing their part. The fact is, if civil servants are actually guilty of the allegations of CAPO "break-in of government offices, treason and aiding and abetting", then of course they should be sacked and charged. CAPO are threatening them for thinking the wrong thoughts. That is fascism Or they could be warning them against committing a crime. If a policeman warns an unstable agitated person against committing a violent act, is that fascism too ? There is a difference between calming an agitated person and threatening people because they think thoughts you disapprove of. We both know which is the action of fascists. Edited May 18, 2014 by Bluespunk 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AleG Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 CAPO are rapidly loosing any of the little credibility and legitimacy they had by making pie in the sky threats like this to make people toe the party line. The SS Credibility & Legitimacy sailed away and sunk with all hands on board since Chalerm was put in charge of CAPO, that is to say, it never had any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Basically, they are civil servants, not PDRC servants, or Suthep servants or yellow shirt servants. If they want to work for another boss, they should resign or be sacked from their current job. Totally ridiculous comment, again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonao Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Basically, they are civil servants, not PDRC servants, or Suthep servants or yellow shirt servants. If they want to work for another boss, they should resign or be sacked from their current job. Totally ridiculous comment, again. and your scorecard is still zero, again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> CAPO are rapidly loosing any of the little credibility and legitimacy they had by making pie in the sky threats like this to make people toe the party line. The SS Credibility & Legitimacy sailed away and sunk with all hands on board since Chalerm was put in charge of CAPO, that is to say, it never had any. Further comment, again the comment comes from a spokesman, not from the 'senior' people from CAPO. Therefore one wonders whether chalerm and surapong are still actively making rules, giving instructions etc., for CAPO. Has the royal gazette been released yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lungmi Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 "while expressing concerns over violence from a third-party." Thaksin's men in black? Jatuporn's fake reds? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiisnotrequired Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Basically, they are civil servants, not PDRC servants, or Suthep servants or yellow shirt servants. If they want to work for another boss, they should resign or be sacked from their current job. No, they aren't PDRC slaves, nor are they the bum kissing Thaksin types. They simply want to express their opinions the same way that you do. Now, I don't know who you work for, but I know of more than a few Thais in the private sector that have been sacked from their jobs for going out and blowing their whistle. It only makes them blow their whistle even louder. You've been fired moonao! You've supported an incestuously despotic and corrupt regime in the lame name of people and democracy. Why are you angry moonao? Is it because of the people that fired you because of your political opinions or because you can't now feed your family. Wanna buy a whistle cheap? "in the lame name of people and democracy" ? whats so lame about that ? that's the best reason i would think. certainly better than an irrational, bizarre hatred of Thaksin Shinawatra that is seemingly the all consuming agenda of some people. "seemingly"? all consuming..... of some? You must have a great source of seemingly, Yaba induced sources of irrationally, bizarre agendae. It spews forth continuously, yet you don't stop to consider your cause of illness. Keep well, please. You entertain many of us with spelndid humour, even if most of it is misguided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Robroona Posted May 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2014 Basically, they are civil servants, not PDRC servants, or Suthep servants or yellow shirt servants. If they want to work for another boss, they should resign or be sacked from their current job. What a quaint, if very stupid, point of view. They work for the government, not one side or the other. If the Democrats won an election, should very civil servant have to become a Democrat supporter? Same for the other side. Heaven forbid if they were all forced to support Chalerm, Tarit and the rest of the idiots 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winstonc Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Buffons. Is a Civil Servant not entitled to a private life wherein they can express their personal opinions Buffons are those who do not understand that you can do whatever you want in your free time, as Puea Thai has stated several times. But you cannot go protest while you are getting paid. Is that really so hard to understand? Say you work and get paid from 8am to 5pm, but you go protest from 9am to 4pm and work just 2 hours. You cant do that. Makes sense? I really hope so. of course he understands that you would be missing from your point of duty whether protesting or otherwise.without good reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Bob Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 I keep expecting to see Joseph Goebbels as the next CAPO spokesperson issuing propaganda and intimidation statements. Difference is back in 1938 Nazi Germany it actually meant something. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winstonc Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Basically, they are civil servants, not PDRC servants, or Suthep servants or yellow shirt servants. If they want to work for another boss, they should resign or be sacked from their current job. What a quaint, if very stupid, point of view. They work for the government, not one side or the other. If the Democrats won an election, should very civil servant have to become a Democrat supporter? Same for the other side. Heaven forbid if they were all forced to support Chalerm, Tarit and the rest of the idiots well theres a few on here that do..and they are foreign educated apparently..makes you wonder rob.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Civil servant having their own opinion and supporting/voting Democrat? No problem. Civil servant privately agreeing with the reasons a government should be over thrown? OK but keep that to yourself. Civil servant actively supporting and participating with a group seeking to over throw the government? Problem. It is really that simple. It only gets convoluted when you factor in your bias and opinion on who is the lessor of the evils here. It is not clear if this government is legal. CAPO with Chalerm and Surapong is most probably illegal. Civil servants who support an illegal government also got a problem.... When that point is made clear, it would certainly change the dynamic but that's not for an employee to decide, or even Suthep. In the meantime, government employees should carry on doing their job best they can and don't get caught up in the idea they are supporting PTP by doing their job. They provide a service to the people, all of them, even us foreigners, regardless of politics. If they want to take to the streets and participate in actions to overthrow the government, resign like Suthep did, and do it. please note these "government employees" are employees of Thailand and not of this specific PTP government. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 I keep expecting to see Joseph Goebbels as the next CAPO spokesperson issuing propaganda and intimidation statements. Difference is back in 1938 Nazi Germany it actually meant something. The difference between Joseph Goebbels and Kritsana Phatthanacharoen or Chalerm or Surapong is that Goebbels wasn't stupid. People didn't know when he was lieing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Who does Chalerm think is ACTUALLY running the country? PTP, the caretaker government, Chalerm himself, Tarit, Surapong, Thaksin, the police, the Army? None of them at all. The country is run as all countries are by the civil servants. Without them the country will seize up. No taxes collected, no salaries paid, no rice sold (not that it is anyway), no im m igration police at the airports and they close down, no tourists, police, Army an the government not paid. P1ss them off at your peril Chalerm. You NEED them far more than they need you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post moonao Posted May 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2014 Basically, they are civil servants, not PDRC servants, or Suthep servants or yellow shirt servants. If they want to work for another boss, they should resign or be sacked from their current job. What a quaint, if very stupid, point of view. They work for the government, not one side or the other. If the Democrats won an election, should very civil servant have to become a Democrat supporter? Same for the other side. Heaven forbid if they were all forced to support Chalerm, Tarit and the rest of the idiots I think if you took off your yellow glasses, took the whistle from your mouth and took a deep breath, you would realize we are more or less in agreement. As you said, a civil servant does indeed work for the government, not one side or the other. They are entitiled to their personal political opinion of course but if it interferes with their job, and they can't do it or even worse, actively sabotage it, then its like any job, they should be fired. No rocket science. Basic stuff really. No need to get hysterical and pompous 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkbarbara Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Haven't seen this spokesman before. Where's Tarit? Is he at home packing or has he already left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmugghc Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 There has been quite a hysterical reaction on this thread by some posters. Its not about having a different political opinion, it sounds like it has gone way beyond that. And keep in mind that yellow shirt supporters don't exactly have the best record in playing clean politics. Their whole political strategy over the last few months is all about dirty tricks and cheap shots against the government, combined with an elaborate legal maneuvers to create an artificial and unnatural political vacuum, that gives them the room and excuse to push forward their undemocratic power grab agenda. instigating violence to trigger a coup is of course their last card. the PDRC (civil?) servants are just doing their part. The fact is, if civil servants are actually guilty of the allegations of CAPO "break-in of government offices, treason and aiding and abetting", then of course they should be sacked and charged. @moonao has it ever happened that you posted something that was critical of something the PTP or red shirts have done? Anything? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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