Thai rice farmers rejoice after junta head orders immediate cash payment

[WhizBang]

Well done General.

[slipperylobster]

Good work.....

Addressing the problem from the right angle.

[virtualtraveller]

It will make them acceptable to all for the time being but I can tell what will happen. The red shirt network will be used to tell everyone that the only reason PTP couldn't pay was that they were being blocked by the establishment, see, the money was there all along! Come next election, when the handouts have been moderated, they will suffer memory loss and vote again for the Dubai chequebook promises.

[Robby nz]

An update as to what was on PBS TV regarding Singburi province.

Seems it was mainly dealing with corruption within the rice scheme in the local area.

One of the things that was discussed was the govt funding of the building of a private warehouse by an unnamed person.

The warehouse was built in a low lying area and not only did it flood in rain but the roof leaked as well.

Seems it still sits there empty having never been used.

As the Mrs says; corruption from top to bottom.

[Sigurris]

And come the day of the next election the same rice farmers who were treated so badly by the Shinwatra Government will be voting for the next Thaksin clone. And will still not work out where they are going wrong.

If you do not learn from history you are doomed to repeat it.

[Skywalker69]

Too bad they have only till 10 pm tonight to spent it in bars.

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Yessir, that's right, thousands of poor rice farmers who have been struggling financially for many months will all of a sudden rush to the nearest karaoke bar and piss it away.

Reality, there will be many household/village parties in appreciation of this money finally getting to the needy rice producers..

Well done Prayuth!!

Wonder if Thaksin got kicked in the nuts like this, before?

[Gweiloman]

Mrs is in touch with a farmers son in Singburi who is also a reporter for local radio and newspaper.

He has compiled numbers of farmers and how much they are owed in the Singburi province divided up by ampour and he has it down to the last baht.

For instance in the InBuri Ampour there are 857 farmers who are owed a total of 156,973,494 B

Total for the small province of Singburi is 7936 farmers who are owed 899 million.

It would seem this will be paid out in more than one lot with the first comprising 2574 farmers paid a total of 380 million an average of 147,630 each.

There is an item on Thai PBS TV on this right now.

This will be a huge injection of money into a small province.

Go the general

In time to come, the farmers will not remember or care who paid them the money that they are owed. All they will remember is that it was PTP's scheme.

[Roadman]

PTP led government did not delay paying the rice farmers. It was EC who tried to bargain with the government - delay election or no payment, and the dem and its pdrc blocking the payments. Threatened banks not to cooperate with the government to pay rice farmers. According to this report, they have been enough funds to pay them and other avenues that funds were available.

PTP would have been fine to pay them once they got their hands on the ฿2.2 trillion free spending money that they were trying to desperately ram through. ฿1 for useless high speed train infrastructure, ฿1 for the rice farmers to keep them on side as Thailand rice farming when further t!ts up, ฿1 for us the lackeys and oh gee ฿2 for the great Dubai leader. Thankfully the criminals in their utter incompetence and stupidity tried to not only ram through the Dubai criminals amnesty but also do it illegally. Stupid is stupid as. In a few years time when there was still no useless high speed train these clowns would have been in for another ฿2.2 trillion to keep their own greed and stupidity going. Their own greed, stupidity, incompetence and lawlessness was their own downfall. And westerners defend these pathetic clowns.

Edited May 26, 2014 by Roadman

[lemonjelly]

I wonder how many farming families will still be in debt to loan sharks even after this payment.

[wealth]

PTP led government did not delay paying the rice farmers. It was EC who tried to bargain with the government - delay election or no payment, and the dem and its pdrc blocking the payments. Threatened banks not to cooperate with the government to pay rice farmers. According to this report, they have been enough funds to pay them and other avenues that funds were available.

You might want to check your calendar .. August arrived a few months before January, same every year .. PDRC did not exist until long after the rice payments first became due. Yingluck and PTP didn not 'FAIL' to pay the farmers, they decided 'NOT TO PAY' the farmers and were confident that their 'redistribution' of funds would be covered by the Amnesty Bill.

Thumbs up to Prayuth, a man with balls and brains, a man who could quickly become the most popular PM in the democratic history of Thailand

... also, never a single word at the red stages to support the farmers not paid. It never was their real agenda. Instead these farmers were intimitated by the leaders of the reds.

In between now, the election for the European parlament got a setback for the corporate globalists too. Conservatives and right wings gained like never before. Their goal is to reduce the corporate globalists to rubbles and to reduce the Euro Parlament's power. Amsterdam will have fewer roads to travel, hahahaha ...

It's not against globalization per se but the enforcing corporate globalist elites with sinister further plans for the globe. Natural globalization is alright ...

Coming back to the rice scheme/scam it is save to say that this was staged by the corporate globalists so to slowely create social unrest after the political unrest and then followed by civil war so that they can get more power and control by sneaking in the back doors.

The awakening is global and not just here in Thaiand.

[chotthee]

I wonder how many farming families will still be in debt to loan sharks even after this payment.

None.

All loan sharks will be chase off Thailand by our new army chief.

He fights for all poor people, and will not allow rich people like Thaksin & Yingluck to bully them any more.

Finally, Thailand is now a land of gold, where there are fish in the water and rice in the field, promise by our father.

[Roadman]

Gonna be hard now for the hardcore red-shirt fanatics to mount a serious challenge now to the general - He's just put money in the pockets of those who have traditionally been UDD / PTP supporters and dug some of them out of a financial hole. That will certainly raise his and the army's popularity at a grass roots level.

I doubt very much that they are going to go against him, especially as PTP left them balancing on the abyss for a long time with empty promises.

Nice bit of populism it would appear?

Yes it was, and it was also a shrewd political and tactical move. And the rice pledging scheme was a bad plan. All these things are true.

Thaksin is greedy, ambitious and corrupt - this is also true. He had an excellent education in the government. But the level of demonization that goes on here of all the redshirts and PTP reaches a level of absurdity. Don't know if this one time payment represents a long term shift in how the establishment treats these people, but they'll take what they can get. And demonized/hated or not, the populist movements just by their very existence is forcing the establishment to shift and acknowledge them, and adjust their policies.

And that is a good thing. You're right.

To be very fair you are very correct. If the whole mess has had one very bright side it is that. Hopefully the northern and north eastern people will wake up, kick all the elites and their rented thugs to the gutter and put forward people who actually care about their welfare above those who have their own greed at the forefront.

[Prbkk]

Farmers will be pleased to be paid. It's great. However, they will not forget that it was the old guard who blocked the payment in the first place.Nothing to do with the policy itself , just pure bloody-mindedness by Sutphep and the cronies.

[wealth]

I wonder how many farming families will still be in debt to loan sharks even after this payment.

many loansharks are a proxy setup by Thaksin's regime. 2%/day repayments ... and different settings from the loansharks we know from before. They eventually will be rounded up too now.

[Prbkk]

I wonder how many farming families will still be in debt to loan sharks even after this payment.

many loansharks are a proxy setup by Thaksin's regime. 2%/day repayments ... and different settings from the loansharks we know from before. They eventually will be rounded up too now.

the loansharks have been around for more than 100 years. It's simply pathetic to try to blame Thaksin for that, as well as being profoundly dishonest

Edited May 26, 2014 by Prbkk

[mikemac]

PTP led government did not delay paying the rice farmers. It was EC who tried to bargain with the government - delay election or no payment, and the dem and its pdrc blocking the payments. Threatened banks not to cooperate with the government to pay rice farmers. According to this report, they have been enough funds to pay them and other avenues that funds were available.

Thanks. Reading your comment reminded me it was time to put the garbage out.

[aimbc]

How strange that in less than a week the Army can pay the farmers but the PTP exgovernment couldn't manage to do the same thing in more than 9 MONTHS.

My understanding is that when they had caretaker status, they were not able to borrow money as the government of Thailand. The army, however, can simply order banks to provide the loans necessary for the payments.

Also BAAC, which always had enough money, is no longer worried about not getting paid back and isn't acting illegally as would have been the case under PTP once in caretaker mode. The PTP could have arranged the funds before they called for elections in December, but legally getting money for rice farmers pledges was the last thing on their minds ( only buying their votes gets them thinking about the farmers ) - getting the Amnesty bill re-instated was always top of the agenda, which would have happened if PTP had been re-elected in February

Not sure if they were going to be able to secure another loan without triggering massive investigation of missing money. They already took out a loan well over the cap of the policy, which was 500Billion. How they got the extra cash was to tell the senate that G2G deal was about to close soon. Which we knew was never true. Basically, the house of cards came tumbling down. You can only run and hide for so long. I hope the military take action and freeze all assets of members of govt. until they find out what happened to the rice money. I am sure the country would support such move. And it will a very good move, hold someone responsible. I will bet a lot of birds would be singing if that was to happen. Again..I can dream right?

[rubl]

Farmers will be pleased to be paid. It's great. However, they will not forget that it was the old guard who blocked the payment in the first place.Nothing to do with the policy itself , just pure bloody-mindedness by Sutphep and the cronies.

ACtually it was the Yingluck government which had put all RPPS related payments into a separate (non-)revolving fund outside parliamentary scrutiny. With the dissolution of the House the caretaker government didn't have the legal power to accept new obligations which would have to be honered by a new government. That's why the caretaker government had to ask the E.C. for permission.

Now if only the Yingluck government had included the RPPS related costs/benefits in the NationalBudget nothing would have been delayed. Of course that's assuming the RPPS had been realistically budgetted.

[Skywalker69]

Farmers will be pleased to be paid. It's great. However, they will not forget that it was the old guard who blocked the payment in the first place.Nothing to do with the policy itself , just pure bloody-mindedness by Sutphep and the cronies.

the old guard who blocked the payment in the first place

That sir is a lie. They tried to sell rice, they tried to take loans i banks. One bank said yes and was willing to lend the money to the Caretaker government, untill people started to redraw their savings.

The bank had to say no to the CG.

they will not forget that it was the old guard who blocked the payment

Be sure they will not forget whom payed them their money, after more than eight months.

[mikemac]

I wonder how many farming families will still be in debt to loan sharks even after this payment.

many loansharks are a proxy setup by Thaksin's regime. 2%/day repayments ... and different settings from the loansharks we know from before. They eventually will be rounded up too now.

the loansharks have been around for more than 100 years. It's simply pathetic to try to blame Thaksin for that, as well as being profoundly dishonest

Hurts me to agree with you Prbkk, but you are absolutely right. Loansharks were around long before the Shin clan migrated to Thailand, cannot be blaming the guy for that disgusting trade.

Anyway, there are so many other things to rightfully blame him for why even bother mentioning loansharks ? Like the redshirts....................................

[Gonzo the Face]

PTP led government did not delay paying the rice farmers. It was EC who tried to bargain with the government - delay election or no payment, and the dem and its pdrc blocking the payments. Threatened banks not to cooperate with the government to pay rice farmers. According to this report, they have been enough funds to pay them and other avenues that funds were available.

Just by way of reminder to you....... the penalty for use of illegal drugs is being enforced.... I am sure that all the TV members that love you and follow every one of your words , would want you to be careful with what you smoke.....

Just as an aside........ where do you come up with this stuff......

[wealth]

I wonder how many farming families will still be in debt to loan sharks even after this payment.

many loansharks are a proxy setup by Thaksin's regime. 2%/day repayments ... and different settings from the loansharks we know from before. They eventually will be rounded up too now.

the loansharks have been around for more than 100 years. It's simply pathetic to try to blame Thaksin for that, as well as being profoundly dihonest

as we all know, most of the loansharks we knew from before were controled and organized by Indians here. This time there was/is a huge surge with new people on the row, all Thais. They require a commodity/goods backup and appear a bit softer than those we know from the past.

This also goes conform with Thaksin's fund raising in Dubai where he did the same, as role model, for businesses there and short time loans, this is according to one of his (former)secretaries here in TH.

[Robby nz]

It should not be forgotten that there are law suites pending against the Government and by extension against the country by the farmers claiming interest that they have had to pay on money borrowed while waiting for their payment for the rice they have pledged.

These law suites were started with the money that was donated to Suthep to help the farmers.

He gave the money collected to farmers leaders who, on his suggestion, took out the action against the Govt.

These law suites will continue regardless of the general taking charge and I suspect that the farmers will have an excellent chance of winning.

[badgerbailey]

And they say democracy rules!!

In some cases, dictatorship is better than democracy.

It get thing done.

It get thing moving.

It stop people fighting.

It give people harmony.

It make farmer rich.

It save lives.

... The list goes on.

S

[Gonzo the Face]

Thank goodness the uneducated farmers don't have the sense to realize that in general the ex gov were blocked at every turn.

It was all part of the process leading to where we are now.

Whatever the case happy to see they are getting their payments, enjoy!

CYA ?????

[nabbie]

Good update, good priority & good for farmers.

[Dibbler]

So 40 million baht will be paid from the government coffers, and an additional 50 billion baht will be loaned by banks which have guns pointed to their heads? Which banks are these and what do their shareholders and customers think of having to forcibly loan the government this money? Why doesn't the junta order DSI to trace the original money that was stolen and force politicians involved to pay back the money?

[The stuttering parrot]

Very bad timing for the farmers.

The World Cup is only a few weeks away and the illegal bookies will be lining up to take their money.

Thais love their football!

They should hand out the money after the final

[DubaiIsCalling]

How strange that in less than a week the Army can pay the farmers but the PTP exgovernment couldn't manage to do the same thing in more than 9 MONTHS.

My understanding is that when they had caretaker status, they were not able to borrow money as the government of Thailand. The army, however, can simply order banks to provide the loans necessary for the payments.

The Thai Military Bank won't get such orders.

[Skywalker69]

Farmers will be pleased to be paid. It's great. However, they will not forget that it was the old guard who blocked the payment in the first place.Nothing to do with the policy itself , just pure bloody-mindedness by Sutphep and the cronies.

ACtually it was the Yingluck government which had put all RPPS related payments into a separate (non-)revolving fund outside parliamentary scrutiny. With the dissolution of the House the caretaker government didn't have the legal power to accept new obligations which would have to be honered by a new government. That's why the caretaker government had to ask the E.C. for permission.

Now if only the Yingluck government had included the RPPS related costs/benefits in the NationalBudget nothing would have been delayed. Of course that's assuming the RPPS had been realistically budgetted.

Hi Onkle! What is RPPS?