chakatee Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 None of us foreigners knows enough of the extend and the backgrounds etc. Even most Thai only know a fraction. Not knowing the details of a conflict, stay out of it ... After last week's election in his home country, soon he'll better be going there with that t-shirt and dumb attitude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbin Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 i don't understand the weird yes sir no yes establishment mindset that operates within TV. Weird, isn't it? But one of the more salient functions of this forum is to provide a space within which its overwhelmingly petty bourgeois membership can assert their deeply reactionary opinions. Why are the reactionary petty bourgeoisie so over-represented in the white immigrant community? Don’t know but it’s interesting to see. Were these people so reactionary before they became immigrants or is it the pressure of group membership which causes such extraordinary uniformity of opinion (and such extreme, and extremely unpleasant, opinions at that). I believe it has to do with the advanced age of a large percentage of the membership, and the fact that they were never part of the youth movement starting in the late '60's. Too many grumpy old men. The type that used to write all those letters to the editor, before computers became popular. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazygourmet Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 According to this website, he is a Belgian national. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 So does this mean we can't buy that Nazi clothing either? I think Nazi clothes are always OK in Thailand..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 He looks like a lilly livered geek anyway,reckon he should have been arrested for how he looks,before buying the shirt. Don't think there is any need for that comment is there, Mr.Perfect Hansum.......... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanno Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 i don't understand the weird yes sir no yes establishment mindset that operates within TV. Weird, isn't it? But one of the more salient functions of this forum is to provide a space within which its overwhelmingly petty bourgeois membership can assert their deeply reactionary opinions. Why are the reactionary petty bourgeoisie so over-represented in the white immigrant community? Don’t know but it’s interesting to see. Were these people so reactionary before they became immigrants or is it the pressure of group membership which causes such extraordinary uniformity of opinion (and such extreme, and extremely unpleasant, opinions at that). I believe it has to do with the advanced age of a large percentage of the membership, and the fact that they were never part of the youth movement starting in the late '60's. Too many grumpy old men. The type that used to write all those letters to the editor, before computers became popular. Oh you radicals, you. Maybe you and Zooheekock should get T-shirts printed with anti-Army paroles and head for Victory Monument. I am sure you hard-core reactionaries will be well received. Maybe I have lived in too manny countries where getting involved in local politics could get you in big doodoo? Not like you, who presumably ranting against the man would get you a slap on the wrist at the most. Sorry for making assumptions about you, but you started. P.S.: I have never written a letter to an editor in my life.. P.P.S. I will keep an eye on the news to see how you do with your anti-Army demonstrations but I will NOT visit you in jail. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zooheekock Posted May 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2014 Thaivisa posters: unable to pass a boot without licking it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rumblecat Posted May 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2014 There is a weird thing I've noticed- at least it's weird for me- of people more or less saying that unless you're born in a country then you have zero rights so you should just shut up and be grateful. Doesn't matter if you work in that country, have family, pay taxes, whatever- no right at all. Yet it's only really with expats in Thai that I've come across this. You meet foreign bankers in New York, or students in London, or whatevers in wherever and they'd be utterly confused by the idea that because they've moved to a different country they have to surrender all rights- they'd see it as a fairly extreme political viewpoint. And to be honest if I was at a protest in the UK and there was a student from Russia next to me, I'd think he was legitimately concerned and involved in the protest as a resident of the country. I'm not saying if people don't want to get involved they should. Or even that it's advisable to get involved. It's the people saying that you shouldn't even have opinions or views on any political or social situation- that you surrender all rights the moment you leave your home country, no questions asked. And often the same people use this forum to mumble and complain about being treated like "second class citizens". 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AhFarangJa Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 i don't understand the weird yes sir no yes establishment mindset that operates within TV. Weird, isn't it? But one of the more salient functions of this forum is to provide a space within which its overwhelmingly petty bourgeois membership can assert their deeply reactionary opinions. Why are the reactionary petty bourgeoisie so over-represented in the white immigrant community? Don’t know but it’s interesting to see. Were these people so reactionary before they became immigrants or is it the pressure of group membership which causes such extraordinary uniformity of opinion (and such extreme, and extremely unpleasant, opinions at that). I believe it has to do with the advanced age of a large percentage of the membership, and the fact that they were never part of the youth movement starting in the late '60's. Too many grumpy old men. The type that used to write all those letters to the editor, before computers became popular. Oh you radicals, you. Maybe you and Zooheekock should get T-shirts printed with anti-Army paroles and head for Victory Monument. I am sure you hard-core reactionaries will be well received. Maybe I have lived in too manny countries where getting involved in local politics could get you in big doodoo? Not like you, who presumably ranting against the man would get you a slap on the wrist at the most. Sorry for making assumptions about you, but you started. P.S.: I have never written a letter to an editor in my life.. P.P.S. I will keep an eye on the news to see how you do with your anti-Army demonstrations but I will NOT visit you in jail. Oh, I don't know, maybe I would go visit just to sit outside his cell with a cold one while the "Boot" kicks him from one end to the other. Zooheekock, I do not know how old you are, nor your life experiences ( if any ), actually I do not care, but it seems to me that you should have been more at home during the Russian Revolution, and look how that turned out for the majority of it's citizens. All you have to remember is that if it was not for a lot of these 'grumpy old white petty bourgeoisie' you would not even have the right of freedom to post your views. P.S. I too never wrote a letter to an editor, but at least I pride myself that I CAN write a letter without the aid of a computer, spell checker, nor e-mail address...do you know which corner of the envelope to put the stamp on??? I doubt it.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooheekock Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 All you have to remember is that if it was not for a lot of these 'grumpy old white petty bourgeoisie' you would not even have the right of freedom to post your views. Since the youngest veterans of WW2 are now in their late 80s, there aren’t likely to be an awful lot of them amongst the bootlickers on this forum. you should have been more at home during the Russian Revolution Indeed. And if I don’t like it here, I can move to Cuba, right? I do not know how old you are, nor your life experiences OK. do you know which corner of the envelope to put the stamp on??? I doubt it.. Hmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrdome Posted May 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2014 i don't understand the weird yes sir no yes establishment mindset that operates within TV. Weird, isn't it? But one of the more salient functions of this forum is to provide a space within which its overwhelmingly petty bourgeois membership can assert their deeply reactionary opinions. Why are the reactionary petty bourgeoisie so over-represented in the white immigrant community? Don’t know but it’s interesting to see. Were these people so reactionary before they became immigrants or is it the pressure of group membership which causes such extraordinary uniformity of opinion (and such extreme, and extremely unpleasant, opinions at that). +1 I am just bewildered by all these posters applauding the removal of basic freedoms & rights under the military take over (the FB shut down comments were pretty amazing. "I hate FB, so I'm applauding this." Never mind that millions use it keep in touch with friends/family they don't get to see often or use it for business or networking purposes (and do not use FB like a kid or post non-stop animal/food/selfie images). All I read from these posters is "Me me me me me..."). The good old days (for ex-pats) will clearly not be the outcome of this coup as the country is obviously deeply divided. Some of you have "issues" and a clear lack of looking at the broader issue and others. May you overcome them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
risky11 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 i don't understand the weird yes sir no yes establishment mindset that operates within TV. Weird, isn't it? But one of the more salient functions of this forum is to provide a space within which its overwhelmingly petty bourgeois membership can assert their deeply reactionary opinions. Why are the reactionary petty bourgeoisie so over-represented in the white immigrant community? Don’t know but it’s interesting to see. Were these people so reactionary before they became immigrants or is it the pressure of group membership which causes such extraordinary uniformity of opinion (and such extreme, and extremely unpleasant, opinions at that). Who uses words like "reactionary petty bourgeoisie?" Are you are Communist? I love individual freedom - as opposed to collective slavery. I cherish my God-given inalienable rights. Only a petty Marxist Fascist Nazi tyrant would have a problem with that. Furthermore, wearing a PEACE PLEASE T-shirt expresses the universal desire of humanity everywhere. Soldiers want peace too. That is the whole reason they seized power - to prevent bloodshed. So I fail to see a problem. Basically, the falang is agreeing with everyone around him. So why would anyone decide to arrest him? Power trip? Very sad... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Smurkster Posted May 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2014 funny just how many people are defending his arrest for a T shirt that calls for peace.... peace everywhere no matter what the situation is a sentiment that can hopefully be agreed upon by everyone, and wishing it and displaying the want for it should not be a crime, 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooheekock Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 (edited) I love individual freedom - as opposed to collective slavery. I cherish my God-given inalienable rights. Let me guess. Your favourite philosopher (snigger) is Ayn Rand. And next time you speak to Him, pass on my thanks to the Big G too. Even us Commie bastards love our God-given inalienable rights. petty Marxist Fascist Nazi Just for the sake of completeness, next time that might be better as 'Tree-hugging, Marxist, Islamo-Fascist Nazi Democrat'. But that's just a suggestion. Edited May 30, 2014 by Zooheekock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EASYDOGG Posted May 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2014 Why make political statements in a country where a) you cannot vote, the locals might not like you getting involved, and c) it makes you look like a total ****?the guy an idiot,none of his damn business and deserves to be immediately deportedSent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app He could have family here and/or a business, so a vested interest in the future of his life and of his family. In a democracy,what's wrong with a T-shirt? This shows just how undeveloped Thailand is. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjunadawn Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 This guy was arrested because he wanted to be arrested; it clearly suited his end- how manipulative. There could be another explanation, but I don't buy it. Look at the furrow in this guys brow saying "can you believe this crap- this was the shirt," while he poses in front of other military assets to make the new declaration. This guy's a punk finessing another nation's laws or political strife to make his "we are the world" statement. Through him in the Bkk hilton; let him use the shirt to barter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangebrew Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 By looks of him think he was trying to get laid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon999 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 A foreigner was arrested by the military after he was found buying Tshirt stating “Peace Please” at Victory Monument. I'm not a fan of the coup, but the guy did not just buy a T shirt. He was photographed deliberately displaying it in front of a group of soldiers. I do not know what he intended to achieve, maybe just a 'cool' picture for his facebook, maybe a genuine political statement, but we have all been amply warned about keeping out of Thai politics. As an expat all my life, I keep out of all politics; no good can come from it. Most of us would probably resent if Thai came to our respective countries and started making political statements. I have many Thai friends and relatives in my home country who can vote and make whatever political statement they like. They're British citizens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanno Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Well, I am not a citizen of the country I love in. And even as a citizen I would not have tyke same rights that so many Europeans enjoy and take for granted. I'd rather have birds than planes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickylies Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 the clowning continues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banzai99 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Why make political statements in a country where a) you cannot vote, the locals might not like you getting involved, and c) it makes you look like a total ****? I think the same when I see the Red v Yellow Farang posters in the Thailand News forum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slygeeza Posted May 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2014 very strange, the military have been calling for peace, its not a controversial statement at all, either theres more to it, like he said something obnoxious to the soldiers, or somebody has mistranslated what the shirt says. are they going to arrest Yinluck for wearing a peace emblem necklace next? if they want to arrest for this there are no limits and I dont think its anything to cheer about, maybe they arrested him for being a farang 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooheekock Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 (edited) very strange, the military have been calling for peace, its not a controversial statement at all, either theres more to it, like he said something obnoxious to the soldiers, or somebody has mistranslated what the shirt says When people first went to Victory Monument to demonstrate, the army made anti-foreigner broadcasts over their PA. They asked the crowd 'Are you married to foreigners because you always take their side' (not a direct quote but roughly what I remember reading on Twitter at the time), and said that the foreign press were all paid to be there and that after the trouble started, they would leave and the Thai protesters would be all alone. There have been a couple of other hints of xenophobia (hardly unexpected given the nature of the new regime) so this might be related to that but I think it's more likely that an over-eager junior officer has been trying too hard. Arresting people for buying t-shirts promoting peace doesn't make anyone look good so I think this is probably just a mistake. Edited May 30, 2014 by Zooheekock 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingdoc Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Why risk getting involved as a farang? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Why risk getting involved as a farang? Principles? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppmacready Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Why make political statements in a country where a) you cannot vote, the locals might not like you getting involved, and c) it makes you look like a total ****?the guy an idiot,none of his damn business and deserves to be immediately deportedSent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app He could have family here and/or a business, so a vested interest in the future of his life and of his family. In a democracy,what's wrong with a T-shirt? This shows just how undeveloped Thailand is. We live in a country where the elite will not except the peoples democratic right to vote! Unless its for them. A chance of an acceptable education? Only 7% of children have a private education here. Where only the elite have freedom of speech. What else did he expect? Maybe his connected? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chao Lao Beach Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 I guess its just ok to sell and not buy. Ironic ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis7 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 No comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc46 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 This the new regime no finger pointing at the station? Is that a coat hanger? Yes it is ,No freedom of speech,no freedom of clothes,no freedom for the press ,What next ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggt Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 The word "Peace" was no problem...but using "Please"...is akin to begging...not allowed in Thailand... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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