Popular Post Lite Beer Posted June 14, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2014 Thailand reverses earlier decision, backs ILO protocol on forced labourSupalak GanjanakhundeeThe Sunday Nation Geneva: -- Thailand has reversed its stance and decided to back an international protocol on forced labour, despite initially voting against the move in Geneva several days ago.The decision reaffirms commitments to eliminate forced labour in compliance with the new instrument, Thai permanent representative to the United Nations in Geneva Thani Thongpakdi said.The Labour Ministry would later send a formal letter to inform the director of the International Labour Organisation (ILO) General Guy Ryder on the new decision, he said.The International Labour Organisation conference in Geneva considered and adopted new instruments on Wednesday to supplement the 1930 Forced Labour Convention.At the meeting, Thailand voted for a non-binding recommendation but said no to the binding protocol. However, its lone vote in opposition drew strong criticism from the international community over Thailand's weak stance on the issue.More than 4,700 government, employer and worker delegates at the Geneva conference adopted the new legally binding ILO Protocol on Forced Labour, which aims to advance prevention, protection and compensation measures, as well as to intensify efforts to eliminate contemporary forms of slavery, according to an ILO press statement.Part of initial reluctance by the Thai delegation may have stemmed from the fact the protocol requires ratification of domestic laws and regulations, as well as reports on implementation."To adopt any specific instrument, we have to consider our readiness to implement such an instrument," Thani explained.However the Labour Ministry revised its stance - it was deemed necessary to join the international consensus in trying to address the issue of forced labour seriously, he said."We don't want to send a wrong signal to the international community but wanted to cooperate with the ILO on the matter," Thani said.With its stance adjusted, Thailand has to comply with the protocol and follow binding obligations which it requires, according to Patana Bhandhufalck, Minister Counsellor (Labour) to the Permanent Mission of Thailand to the United Nations in Geneva.Thai law provided all workers in Thailand with protection in relation to working conditions as well as related benefits regardless of nationality, she said. "This includes protection against forced labour," she noted.Patana informed the ILO conference about the new decision during a meeting late last week. -- The Nation 2014-06-15 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wprime Posted June 14, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2014 Remind me to sell my shares in the Thai seafood industry. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Prbkk Posted June 14, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2014 Well done, The Guardian! 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post angsta Posted June 14, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2014 The Thai way is to agree with something and then just ignore it. The Junta clearly forgot and with no free speech it took the international community to remind them. <deleted>. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 First of the backtracks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noitom Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 When the Thai press says something like "Thailand rverses its decision," just exactly who is "accountable for these decisions with no civilian government? How can the Thai press just continuously report this nonsense without challenging who is in charge of these decisions and what is the oversight? Who is accountable? That's one of the main purposes of a civilian government is to establish accountability for government or state decisions. When Prayuth retires or has a heart attack and drops dead, who is accountable and who steps in? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Strange, Non of the treaties, protocols, declarations, etc. are binding on a country unless its legislative entity ratifies it. So now that would be... And it could have already been done locally as soon as it became news. Crickets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UbonRatch Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Well it's a good start, at least, to see Thailand attempting to be internationally PC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chooka Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 So few days ago the Junta was all for and supported slavery, now they have international pressure and have been forced to vote against it. Lets see if anything ha really changed in a week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post impulse Posted June 14, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2014 Anyone remember the Kyoto protocol? Or money "pledged" by various countries for the last natural disaster? Signing on was expedient. Actually living up to the commitment- not so much. And that's definitely not Thailand specific. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mca Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Protection relating to working conditions - So they're going to buy all those Myanmar constructon workers on the Bangkok condos new flip flops then..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Thus proving International pressure from the public outrage works. This is called pressure of popular public opinion. Are we learning yet ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camelot Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Sensible decision. I thought for a moment the previous Labour Minister was trying to make a comeback. Chalerm's views on this issue are hardly compassionate. Nor are they a secret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Protection relating to working conditions - So they're going to buy all those Myanmar constructon workers on the Bangkok condos new flip flops then..... yes "one" each 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 This "reversal" is like the school idiot who suddenly finds himself alone on the playground after everyone else has gone back to class, and suddenly decides that maybe he should go to class as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_paarp Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 It would seem the international community did not understand the Thainess of their position, result back flip with pike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 This decision should never have been voted against in the first place, Thailand now faces ridicule, as it go's back on a poorly thought out position on ILO protocol, the PTP government certainly had some small minded people running the out fit , if Thailand wishes to be a player in International affairs , a seat at the UN and representation on the world stage then it needs to get its ars!!e in order and start thinking like a responsible adult. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Just1Voice Posted June 15, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2014 This decision should never have been voted against in the first place, Thailand now faces ridicule, as it go's back on a poorly thought out position on ILO protocol, the PTP government certainly had some small minded people running the out fit , if Thailand wishes to be a player in International affairs , a seat at the UN and representation on the world stage then it needs to get its ars!!e in order and start thinking like a responsible adult. Never mind the "thinking like a responsible adult". How about just THINKING, period? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonthai Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 For thai diplomacy it's not more than an empty gesture. They were thinking about the voting for years, that's how long it takes for international law to be introduced, and now, within days, they flip their decision 180 degree. It's dishonest, misleading and pure PR junta trick, to take heat of guardian slavery report and an alleged killing of 9 cambodian workers in chonburi by the thai army just within the last few days. They will use every possible excuse not to comply with this law, as fishing industry will suffer badly without slaved workers. There are estimates of hundreds workers being killed and thrown in to the sea, every year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halion Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Agreeing to international standards in order to gain stature has been a well practiced trait of the Thai Government, however they have little or no intention nor ability to implement same. They got caught out on this one, hence the 180. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 How embarrassing to be the ONLY non signatory in the entire organisation of 4700. I mean honestly. What a farce... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 For thai diplomacy it's not more than an empty gesture. They were thinking about the voting for years, that's how long it takes for international law to be introduced, and now, within days, they flip their decision 180 degree. It's dishonest, misleading and pure PR junta trick, to take heat of guardian slavery report and an alleged killing of 9 cambodian workers in chonburi by the thai army just within the last few days. They will use every possible excuse not to comply with this law, as fishing industry will suffer badly without slaved workers. There are estimates of hundreds workers being killed and thrown in to the sea, every year. Don't worry. The state department report is on the way. Finally they have got CP on record admitting there may be a problem. Out of small acorns and all that. Things may be a changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 So few days ago the Junta was all for and supported slavery, now they have international pressure and have been forced to vote against it. Lets see if anything ha really changed in a week. Nothing changed in the 3 years of the PTP so why not give the junta the same time period. Or is that just another double standard from you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 A very embarrassing initial vote and quick reversal by Thailand....definitely made Thailand standout in the crowd in all the wrong ways. Now if Thailand will only stand behind its new found support of international protocol on forced labor....time will tell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 A very embarrassing initial vote and quick reversal by Thailand....definitely made Thailand standout in the crowd in all the wrong ways. Now if Thailand will only stand behind its new found support of international protocol on forced labor....time will tell. The market is going to do that for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crushdepth Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Lone vote. Disgraceful. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crushdepth Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Thus proving International pressure from the public outrage works. This is called pressure of popular public opinion. Are we learning yet ? Well the last government didn't try to fix it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab4 Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Thus proving International pressure from the public outrage works. This is called pressure of popular public opinion. Are we learning yet ? Well the last government didn't try to fix it. Or the one before that. You'd have thought this new one would have the gumption to take this opportunity to chip away at international perception the first time round - not make an embarrassing U turn when it's too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crushdepth Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 (edited) Thus proving International pressure from the public outrage works. This is called pressure of popular public opinion. Are we learning yet ? Well the last government didn't try to fix it. Or the one before that. You'd have thought this new one would have the gumption to take this opportunity to chip away at international perception the first time round - not make an embarrassing U turn when it's too late. Nice try, was the agreement up for signing when the before-last government was running the show? No, it wasn't.Place blame at feet of former (your hero) government that got tossed for being jerks. Thankyouverymuch. Edited June 15, 2014 by Crushdepth 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUAHIN62 Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 First of the backtracks? Many to come and B 3 tn to pay back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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