7by7 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Interesting discussion on TMS during the rain break about the increasingly high scores achieved in ODIs and what bowlers could do to restrict batsman. Which prompted the following question from, I think, Phil Tufnell. "Do people come to ODIs to watch batters get a big score, or bowlers take wickets?" I'd suggest the answer is both; but what do others think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted June 13, 2015 Author Share Posted June 13, 2015 Indeed, England had been up with, often ahead of, the required rate for much of their innings. When rain stopped play, chasing 399 to win they were 345 for 7, needing 54 from 37 balls; difficult, but achievable, especially with Rashid and Plunkett both seeing the ball as if it were a beach ball! When play restarted, their revised target was 34 off 13 balls! They gave it a go, losing Rashid and Plunkett, as they had no time to get back into their previous frame of mind after the break, in the process; but the task was simply too much. As this was a day/night game, The Oval has floodlights and the rain delay was short (the time they took to get the covers back off was longer than the time it rained for!), why could they not play those other 4 overs! The attitude of "We have a scheduled latest finish time and are going to stick to it." may make sense if that scheduled time is late, but it was only 9:15. I'm sure the neighbours wouldn't have objected if the game had gone on long enough to get a proper finish; how long would it have taken to bowl those other 4 overs? Another great game, spoiled at the end by the attitude of officials and Messrs Duckworth and Lewis. All credit to New Zealand on the win, and the muted manner of their celebration. It was obvious that they were disappointed with the manufactured aspect of their victory. New Zealand 398-5: Taylor 119 not out, Williamson 93, Guptill 50 England 365-9: Morgan 88, Hales 54, McCullum 3-86 New Zealand won by 13 runs Bold England lose rain-affected ODI thriller to New Zealand 34 off 13 is pretty tough at 7 down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will27 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 As expected, job done by the boys with a 277 run win in the 2nd test. Or as Brendon Julian said "Australia have retained the Sir Wank Forrell Trophy" Brendon Julian makes hilarious commentary gaffe https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/28458309/julian-makes-commentary-gaffe/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 (edited) Third England v New Zealand ODI at Southampton yesterday.England won the toss and chose to bat. They continued the attacking play they showed in the previous two games. In the last game, rain and Duckworth Lewis robbed them of the chance of a famous victory; this time they only have themselves to blame. Having been 194 for 3 and then 288 for 5 they were bowled out in the 46th over for 302.New Zealand comfortably reached the target with an over to spare. England's aggressive, positive approach to batting is good to see, and there will be losses along the way. However, a period of consolidation when the wickets began to fall may have prevented them from being bowled out and committing the cardinal ODI sin for the side batting first of not using all their overs. Dropped catches when fielding didn't help either. New Zealand were in trouble at 36 for 2 when Taylor and Williamson came together. Taylor was dropped twice and Williamson once as they added a New Zealand ODI record partnership in England of 206. England 302 (45.2 overs): Morgan 71, Stokes 68New Zealand 306-7 (49 overs): Williamson 118, Taylor 110New Zealand win by three wicketsEngland v New Zealand: Taylor, Williamson give tourists 2-1 lead Edited June 15, 2015 by 7by7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Another superb ODI yesterday at Trent bridge, and another record broken as England recorded their highest ever run chase to win a game. They have also already passed their previous highest aggregate score in a five day ODI series of 1399 with a game still to go!New Zealand 349-7 (50 overs): Williamson 90, Elliott 55*England: 350-3 (44 overs): Morgan 113, Root 106* England win by 7 wickets. England v New Zealand: Root & Morgan lead record run chase Bring on the decider at Chester-Le-Street on Saturday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijit Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Tbh first time for ages i'm getting entertainment from an england team. And i'm not on about just winning , its the attitude. Sort of ' w t f lets just go for it' . Refreshing rijit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Indeed, if the Ashes is half as entertaining as both the two tests and this one day series against New Zealand have been, then what a superb summer of international cricket we in England will have enjoyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will27 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Another superb ODI yesterday at Trent bridge, and another record broken as England recorded their highest ever run chase to win a game. They have also already passed their previous highest aggregate score in a five day ODI series of 1399 with a game still to go! New Zealand 349-7 (50 overs): Williamson 90, Elliott 55* England: 350-3 (44 overs): Morgan 113, Root 106* England win by 7 wickets. England v New Zealand: Root & Morgan lead record run chase Bring on the decider at Chester-Le-Street on Saturday! As far as limited overs cricket is concerned, England seem to have finally seen the light. For once, not just picking test teams with a few changes here and there, and realising 300 plus scores are the norm now. Too late for the WC but makes it really interesting for the upcoming Ashes series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijit Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Deary deary me 50 4 5 rijit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijit Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 17 of 12 needed !!! Great entertainment fitting tense end rijit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijit Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 (edited) A win but not the point could this series mark a definative change in english international cricket ? Either way well done morgan and extremly well done new zealand great to watch. rijit Edited June 20, 2015 by rijit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 A tense and exciting finish!Having won the toss, Morgan put New Zealand in.With conditions, for once, favouring the bowlers, the Kiwis were restricted to 283 for 9 from their 50 overs.Rain in the interval meant England were set a target of 192 from 26 overs.At 45 for 5 with the required rate going up and up, it looked like a lost cause when Bairstow and Billings came together.Bairstow's 83 n.o. from 60 balls, Billings' 41 from 30 and a cameo at the end from Rashid of 12 from 9 saw England over the line with an over to spare.New Zealand 283-9 (50 overs): Guptill 67, Williamson 50England 192-7 (25 overs): Bairstow 83*, Billings 41England win by three wickets (D/L) and win series 3-2England v New Zealand: Jonny Bairstow guides hosts to series winSome of the ODI records broken in this series: England score highest run total by any team in a five-match series - 1,617 Most boundaries from both sides in a five-match series - 390 England score most boundaries in a five-match series by any team - 209 First time a combined 3,000 runs is surpassed in a five-match series - 3,151 New Zealand score their highest total of runs in a five-match series - 1,534 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted June 21, 2015 Author Share Posted June 21, 2015 A tense and exciting finish! Having won the toss, Morgan put New Zealand in. With conditions, for once, favouring the bowlers, the Kiwis were restricted to 283 for 9 from their 50 overs. Rain in the interval meant England were set a target of 192 from 26 overs. At 45 for 5 with the required rate going up and up, it looked like a lost cause when Bairstow and Billings came together. Bairstow's 83 n.o. from 60 balls, Billings' 41 from 30 and a cameo at the end from Rashid of 12 from 9 saw England over the line with an over to spare. New Zealand 283-9 (50 overs): Guptill 67, Williamson 50 England 192-7 (25 overs): Bairstow 83*, Billings 41 England win by three wickets (D/L) and win series 3-2 England v New Zealand: Jonny Bairstow guides hosts to series win Some of the ODI records broken in this series: England score highest run total by any team in a five-match series - 1,617 Most boundaries from both sides in a five-match series - 390 England score most boundaries in a five-match series by any team - 209 First time a combined 3,000 runs is surpassed in a five-match series - 3,151 New Zealand score their highest total of runs in a five-match series - 1,534 Some big scoring stats there. Have they been bringing the ropes ever further in form the boundary on English grounds also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Not sure about that; I've not got Sky Sports, and have been working during most games, and when the terrestrial TV highlights are on, so not been able to actually watch much of the games; listening to TMS instead. No real mention of short boundaries on TMS while I've been listening, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijit Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 A tense and exciting finish! Having won the toss, Morgan put New Zealand in. With conditions, for once, favouring the bowlers, the Kiwis were restricted to 283 for 9 from their 50 overs. Rain in the interval meant England were set a target of 192 from 26 overs. At 45 for 5 with the required rate going up and up, it looked like a lost cause when Bairstow and Billings came together. Bairstow's 83 n.o. from 60 balls, Billings' 41 from 30 and a cameo at the end from Rashid of 12 from 9 saw England over the line with an over to spare. New Zealand 283-9 (50 overs): Guptill 67, Williamson 50 England 192-7 (25 overs): Bairstow 83*, Billings 41 England win by three wickets (D/L) and win series 3-2 England v New Zealand: Jonny Bairstow guides hosts to series win Some of the ODI records broken in this series: England score highest run total by any team in a five-match series - 1,617 Most boundaries from both sides in a five-match series - 390 England score most boundaries in a five-match series by any team - 209 First time a combined 3,000 runs is surpassed in a five-match series - 3,151 New Zealand score their highest total of runs in a five-match series - 1,534 Some big scoring stats there. Have they been bringing the ropes ever further in form the boundary on English grounds also? Was mentioned during com'entary 'new' Health and safety, rope/ boundary has to be at least 2.5 metres from the fence/wall rijit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 A tense and exciting finish! Having won the toss, Morgan put New Zealand in. With conditions, for once, favouring the bowlers, the Kiwis were restricted to 283 for 9 from their 50 overs. Rain in the interval meant England were set a target of 192 from 26 overs. At 45 for 5 with the required rate going up and up, it looked like a lost cause when Bairstow and Billings came together. Bairstow's 83 n.o. from 60 balls, Billings' 41 from 30 and a cameo at the end from Rashid of 12 from 9 saw England over the line with an over to spare. New Zealand 283-9 (50 overs): Guptill 67, Williamson 50 England 192-7 (25 overs): Bairstow 83*, Billings 41 England win by three wickets (D/L) and win series 3-2 England v New Zealand: Jonny Bairstow guides hosts to series win Some of the ODI records broken in this series: England score highest run total by any team in a five-match series - 1,617 Most boundaries from both sides in a five-match series - 390 England score most boundaries in a five-match series by any team - 209 First time a combined 3,000 runs is surpassed in a five-match series - 3,151 New Zealand score their highest total of runs in a five-match series - 1,534 Some big scoring stats there. Have they been bringing the ropes ever further in form the boundary on English grounds also? Was mentioned during com'entary 'new' Health and safety, rope/ boundary has to be at least 2.5 metres from the fence/wall rijit That's so's they don't lose their balls into the crowd. There's frugality for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted June 21, 2015 Author Share Posted June 21, 2015 Guys, its probably worth starting up a separate ASHES thread for the upcoming series? 7x7 or KhunWill for the startup honors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 OK, BookMan; done; Ashes 2015. Meanwhile, there's Tuesday's England v New Zealand T20 at Old Trafford to look forward to. Though T20 is my least favourite form of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijit Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) OK, BookMan; done; Ashes 2015. Meanwhile, there's Tuesday's England v New Zealand T20 at Old Trafford to look forward to. Though T20 is my least favourite form of the game. I must admit this E v N Z 20 -20 is the first match i've given more than 10 mins to and i have to say i like the way the game changes, one min ure getting hammered literally 3 overs later your winning!!!. Perhaps i'll give it some more time. Oh great win by england. rijit Edited June 23, 2015 by rijit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 England 191-7 (20 overs): Root 68New Zealand 135 (16.2 overs): Williamson 57, Willey 3-22, Wood 3-26England win by 56 runsEngland v New Zealand: Joe Root and Mark Wood inspire win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 (edited) Clive Rice: Former South Africa and Notts captain dies aged 66 Rice was 42 when he made his official international debut and played only three ODIs, despite an outstanding first-class record which saw him average 40.95 with the bat and 22.49 with the ball. A great contributor to the game, both as a player and as a coach. Such a shame that the years of isolation during apartheid kept him from the international stage for most of his playing career.R.I.P. Edited July 28, 2015 by 7by7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will27 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Well gang The real stuff begins next week T20 next Monday followed by the ODI's. Do people want to use this thread or the Ashes one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 It's all part of the one tour; so I vote for keeping it in the Ashes thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will27 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 It's all part of the one tour; so I vote for keeping it in the Ashes thread. Ok, sounds good to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 <deleted>?Ashes: England, South Africa and India Tests to leave the Waca Future Ashes Test matches in Perth are to be moved away from the iconic Waca ground to a new stadium in the city.Plans have been unveiled which include moving all Australia's Test matches against England, South Africa and India to the new 60,000-seater Perth Stadium.The Waca will be renovated and maintained as a "boutique stadium".Former Australia fast bowler Dennis Lillee has resigned as Western Australian Cricket Association president over the move. For Austrailians, particulalrly Western Australians, it must feel like there being no more tests at Lords would feel to us English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will27 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 <deleted>? Ashes: England, South Africa and India Tests to leave the Waca Future Ashes Test matches in Perth are to be moved away from the iconic Waca ground to a new stadium in the city. Plans have been unveiled which include moving all Australia's Test matches against England, South Africa and India to the new 60,000-seater Perth Stadium. The Waca will be renovated and maintained as a "boutique stadium". Former Australia fast bowler Dennis Lillee has resigned as Western Australian Cricket Association president over the move. For Austrailians, particulalrly Western Australians, it must feel like there being no more tests at Lords would feel to us English. Gutted! The pitch at the WACA is unique and world renowned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will27 Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 (edited) Quite a handy side. My only change would be to replace AB with Steve Waugh. Warney is not a fan of Tugga, especially after Waugh dropped him for a test in the WI. Shane Warne names Allan Border as captain in greatest Australian ODI team of the past 25 years 1. Mark Waugh2. Adam Gilchrist3. Ricky Ponting4. Mike Hussey5. Allan Border ©6. Michael Bevan7. Andrew Symonds8. Mitchell Johnson9. Shane Warne10. Brett Lee11. Glenn McGrath Read more: http://www.watoday.com.au/sport/cricket/shane-warne-names-allan-border-as-captain-in-greatest-australian-odi-team-of-the-past-25-years-20150904-gjfq2i.html#ixzz3koxkT37m Edited September 5, 2015 by Will27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted September 6, 2015 Author Share Posted September 6, 2015 Controversial dismissal of Ben Stokes overshadows Australia's 64-run victory at Lord'shttp://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-06/ben-stokes-dismissal-overshadows-australia-odi-win-at-lords/6752958 .... More english whinging... The ball would have hit the stumps, Stokes brought his hand all the way over to stop it. Mate, you are out. Quit complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijit Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 <deleted>? Ashes: England, South Africa and India Tests to leave the Waca Future Ashes Test matches in Perth are to be moved away from the iconic Waca ground to a new stadium in the city. Plans have been unveiled which include moving all Australia's Test matches against England, South Africa and India to the new 60,000-seater Perth Stadium. The Waca will be renovated and maintained as a "boutique stadium". Former Australia fast bowler Dennis Lillee has resigned as Western Australian Cricket Association president over the move. For Austrailians, particulalrly Western Australians, it must feel like there being no more tests at Lords would feel to us English. Gutted!The pitch at the WACA is unique and world renowned. So they are just gonna demolish the wacca? If so Seems a bloody shame all that heritage lost..rijit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripstanley Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Shane Watson has announced his retirement from Test cricket effective immediately http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-06/watson-announces-retirement-from-test-cricket/6753774 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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