Popular Post shocky2004 Posted July 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2014 I honestly think the best way right now to pay a fine without a problem AND to come back is via North airport (CMX International). For those of you that readed my post where i ask for help about my friend, well we went to airport today and are now in Cambodia. The whole process has been great overall (long though, it took around 30-40 minutes.) And it's at the moment (correct me if i'm wrong) THE ONLY PLACE where nobody has been refused entry.The first question my friend got asked was 'Do you want cofee?' and the officers just laughed. BUT they told him that the rules are coming VERY soon and they won't joke anymore with overstayers. By the way, an overstay of 10 DAYS will be a year ban. So forget all the talk about the 90 days, it's gonna be 10 days (and i know cuz i've asked the officer myself and she showed me the official paper.) The told us that basically right now Thailand don't want to just kick out everyone that made a mistake and not give them a chance. She clearly said that Thailand is (by not applying the law right now) giving a chance for people to get the right visa but you have to handle your sh*t NOW.So to everyone who's on overstays or know someone, go CMX. Trust me. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrtoad Posted July 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2014 Why would you go to Houghton County Memorial Airport? 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post digitalchromakey Posted July 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2014 Houghton County Memorial Airport, Michigan, USA? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pattaya46 Posted July 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) > And it's at the moment (correct me if i'm wrong) THE ONLY PLACE where nobody has been refused entry Why would someone who made an overstay be refused entry? Overstayers always became clear once they paid before leaving Thailand. > By the way, an overstay of 10 DAYS will be a year ban. So forget all the talk about the 90 days, There is no such "10 days/1 year" in the doc they make you sign in Immigration Office when getting an extension. Maybe you can tell us what's more was on this "paper"... Edited July 18, 2014 by Pattaya46 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post shocky2004 Posted July 18, 2014 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2014 > And it's at the moment (correct me if i'm wrong) THE ONLY PLACE where nobody has been refused entry Why would someone who made an overstay be refused entry? Overstayers always became clear once they paid before leaving Thailand. > By the way, an overstay of 10 DAYS will be a year ban. So forget all the talk about the 90 days, There is no such "10 days/1 year" in the doc they make you sign in Immigration Office when getting an extension. Maybe you can tell us what's more was on this "paper"... They showed me a my friend a paper this morning and it was CLEARLY stated: Overstay over 10 days = 1 year ban This is what was on this paper can't tell you more, hope it's clear enough... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CWMcMurray Posted July 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2014 It's just a typo... Should read CNX ... But guessing everyone should be able to figure it out Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post shocky2004 Posted July 18, 2014 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2014 I mean i went there this morning... the only reason why i'm typing this here is cause maybe some folks are in the situation my friend was in or they knopw someone and i'm trying to help out.Indeed when i said 'no one got refused entry' i mean't when they got back with a visa from a thai embassy in another country. To go out obviously there's no problem (as it's what they want, you to go out lol) but the problem was more about people worrying about maybe being blacklisted.You won't get blacklisted. But go out ASAP. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KevinB Posted July 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2014 I'm loving some of the problems that seem to be popping up all of a sudden - and I suspect they are going to get worse and worser (sic) - I wonder how many of those affected are still such BIG supporters of the sudden regime change now????? Back then when everyone was so happy to see the back of the lady PM - a few of us did warn that things might change for the worst. Stick around guys (and gals) it's gonna get even tougher. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalchromakey Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) It's just a typo... Should read CNX ... But guessing everyone should be able to figure it out Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Thanks for that, you see we southerners don't necessarily know the codes of the northern Thai airports - personally never been there, so I was genuinely very confused by the OP. Edited July 18, 2014 by digitalchromakey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrtoad Posted July 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2014 It's just a typo... Should read CNX ... But guessing everyone should be able to figure it out Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I am off to Michigan in 10 days, I was going to go to CMX to see what the Thai immigration would have to say 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyL Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) This assumes that someone on overstay has the funds to fly out, someplace to go, and is physically/mentally able to make the trip. Unfortunately, I know at least half a dozen people on overstay in Chiang Mai that don'/aren't able to utilize the fine hospitality of the Houghton, Michigan (oops -- Chiang Mai) airport (I've actually been to Houghton, MI!) to get themselves out via the northern route. There are amazing similarities between the two airports, I've often thought. Edited July 18, 2014 by NancyL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AYJAYDEE Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 > And it's at the moment (correct me if i'm wrong) THE ONLY PLACE where nobody has been refused entry Why would someone who made an overstay be refused entry? Overstayers always became clear once they paid before leaving Thailand. > By the way, an overstay of 10 DAYS will be a year ban. So forget all the talk about the 90 days, There is no such "10 days/1 year" in the doc they make you sign in Immigration Office when getting an extension. Maybe you can tell us what's more was on this "paper"... They showed me a my friend a paper this morning and it was CLEARLY stated: Overstay over 10 days = 1 year ban This is what was on this paper can't tell you more, hope it's clear enough... are you thai? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattszero Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 The OP - who appears to be a very nice person indeed - has overlooked a small but some may say, vital detail. His friend has not returned yet. He may find a less friendly welcome at CNX next time round. I hope not - and I look forward to an update. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post al007 Posted July 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2014 Again all this negativeness we should be grateful on people posting about the possible new regulations It appears pretty likely from August 12 that things will change for overstayers, so why take the risk, you have been given the time and space to clean up your act It is so obvious to me, and probably any lawyer if you are on overstay, rectify while you can, if I am wrong at least you have become legal and do not have to worry about being illegal But then I have tried to live my life on the legal and moral side of the street, and maybe just do not understand the mentality of the other way 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 I think they only showed you half the paper. They only showed you the part about being apprehended with an overstay. If you are caught with an overstay it is a ban. Voluntarily at the airport there is no ban it your overstay is less than 90 days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lust Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 So are you back in Thailand now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 The paper has been published on Thaivisa and is also on Phuket immigration website. But it is still a proposal, that hasn't come into effect yet. As Ubonjoe pointed out, it makes a big difference if you are caught with an overstay or report yourself. In the last case you will not be banned if the overstay is less than 90 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 I too signed the overstay paper at immigration when doing my 90 day check in. This seems to be a time where the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. So what else is new? What we might call "a fluid situation". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottMallon Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 (edited) > And it's at the moment (correct me if i'm wrong) THE ONLY PLACE where nobody has been refused entry Why would someone who made an overstay be refused entry? Overstayers always became clear once they paid before leaving Thailand. > By the way, an overstay of 10 DAYS will be a year ban. So forget all the talk about the 90 days, There is no such "10 days/1 year" in the doc they make you sign in Immigration Office when getting an extension. Maybe you can tell us what's more was on this "paper"... They showed me a my friend a paper this morning and it was CLEARLY stated: Overstay over 10 days = 1 year ban This is what was on this paper can't tell you more, hope it's clear enough... Yesterday, I met with the Superintendent of Sub-Division 2, Division 1 at Chaengwattana and four of his colleagues. I was provided with the latest overstay information. I have the two pages of information that was submitted to the Ministry of Interior for approval. The approval takes approximately 60 days. Nowhere on this page is there a 10 day overstay = 1 year ban. If you overstay more than 90 days and surrender, then you're banned for a year. Mario is correct in that there will not be a ban on those who overstay less than 90 days. I'm not saying you didn't see what you say you saw but as soon as I have a little time I will show the papers I was given as well as some other interesting details. Edited July 19, 2014 by ScottMallon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 It would have been this document: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Suradit69 Posted July 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2014 I'm loving some of the problems that seem to be popping up all of a sudden - and I suspect they are going to get worse and worser (sic) - I wonder how many of those affected are still such BIG supporters of the sudden regime change now????? Back then when everyone was so happy to see the back of the lady PM - a few of us did warn that things might change for the worst. Stick around guys (and gals) it's gonna get even tougher. Yes, as I said in a different thread, a lot of people were applauding the implementation & application of stricter rules and regulations under martial law when it affected Thai people (taxi drivers, jet ski operators, buildings erected on public land, etc), but when it means farang also have to get with the new & improved scheme of things, the applause dropped off. If you are for less corruption and better law enforcement, it needs to be applied to everyone. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stayedtoolongoops Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 what kind of flight goes from chiang mai to cambodia direct? I only see ones that stop in Bangkok... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KarenBravo Posted July 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2014 what kind of flight goes from chiang mai to cambodia direct? I only see ones that stop in Bangkok... You would be in transit, therefore no need to go through immigration. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya46 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Mario is correct in that there will not be a ban on those who overstay less than 90 days. This part is in contradiction with what Mario2008 posted just after your message, and that seems to be a part transcription of the scanned document we now have to sign at Immigration: "apprehended" + "overstay less than 1 year" => "ban 5 years". There is a long discussion already in another topic about this unclear point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottMallon Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 (edited) Mario is correct in that there will not be a ban on those who overstay less than 90 days. This part is in contradiction with what Mario2008 posted just after your message, and that seems to be a part transcription of the scanned document we now have to sign at Immigration: "apprehended" + "overstay less than 1 year" => "ban 5 years". There is a long discussion already in another topic about this unclear point. Okay, understood. If you turn yourself in and overstay less than 90 days, you get 1 year. But I will have the most recent information posted shortly. I was given this yesterday afternoon and I believe it will be quite clear. Edited July 19, 2014 by ScottMallon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Mario is correct in that there will not be a ban on those who overstay less than 90 days. This part is in contradiction with what Mario2008 posted just after your message, and that seems to be a part transcription of the scanned document we now have to sign at Immigration: "apprehended" + "overstay less than 1 year" => "ban 5 years". There is a long discussion already in another topic about this unclear point. Okay, understood. If you turn yourself in and overstay less than 90 days, you get 1 year. But I will have the most recent information posted shortly. I was given this yesterday afternoon and I believe it will be quite clear. If you clear the overstay of less than 90 days voluntarily you will not get banned. Get caught and it will be 5 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottMallon Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 (edited) Mario is correct in that there will not be a ban on those who overstay less than 90 days. This part is in contradiction with what Mario2008 posted just after your message, and that seems to be a part transcription of the scanned document we now have to sign at Immigration: "apprehended" + "overstay less than 1 year" => "ban 5 years". There is a long discussion already in another topic about this unclear point. Okay, understood. If you turn yourself in and overstay less than 90 days, you get 1 year. But I will have the most recent information posted shortly. I was given this yesterday afternoon and I believe it will be quite clear. If you clear the overstay of less than 90 days voluntarily you will not get banned. Get caught and it will be 5 years. Excuse me, I meant MORE than 90 days gets you 1 year. Less than 90 is no penalty. If you are apprehended and overstay anything less than a year, it's 5 years. Edited July 19, 2014 by ScottMallon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 and as I posted on another thread, I strongly expect that authorities in your area are going to be actively looking and checking for people who are on overstay, I'm sure they have a list of names of people who have arrived and never left Thailand and are suspected on overstay, active checking of condo's and houses - random street and venue checks of bars nightclubs etc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mikecat Posted July 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2014 Geez there are some real smart arse bitter and mean souls on this forum. The Op just did the right thing and gave you the heads up about what he had personally experienced. Stop being so smart and picky and take the information in the spirit it was given 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lust Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 and as I posted on another thread, I strongly expect that authorities in your area are going to be actively looking and checking for people who are on overstay, I'm sure they have a list of names of people who have arrived and never left Thailand and are suspected on overstay, active checking of condo's and houses - random street and venue checks of bars nightclubs etc Let's not get too excited. This is still lazy Thailand, not Nazi Germany. =p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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