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The junta are currently reviewing 'Neighbours' as a primary soap replacement. If this doesn't work they will fall back to 'Home and Away' or 'Prisoner'.

or 'Catch Candy!' - cheesy.gif

Edit: Thailand needs to go back to Andy Pandy and the Flower Pot Men'... go thru Camberwick Green, and then onto Captain Pugwash.. Roundabout, and Jackanory.

It then might learn about satire, and malfeasance in language, where the "happy fellows" take over. It might just find Trumped Upon.

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They export the Thai soaps to Vietnam and the Vietnamese women are glued to their TV sets in total awe.

Sickening.

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What an idiotic article. Sick when the writer tried to use the violent rape and murder of a young girl by an adult male to support his dislike for some popular "drama" TV shows. Thai soap operas don't make a rapist. Kids have been watching TV, which has become more and more violent and sexual, for many decades as crime rates (especially violent including rape)in places like the US, where most all people have TVs, continues to go down ... especially since the TV age kids reached adulthood. I wonder if such stats hold true in poorer countries with less access to TV or that use much stricter censoring.

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Not saying TV reduces rape but the facts would certainly indicate they don't cause it ... but would say that anybody who tries to spread as fact that TV is any way responsible for raping a child is clearly doing more damage than TV.

Like any other form of legal entertainment - if you don't like it then don't watch it - but stop trying to make others only view what you like or approve.

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Is about time to get rid of this embarrassing Stone edge soaps

Indeed as they make "The Flintstones" show look intellectual

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In a related development, the BP reported break-ins at several major broadcasters and movie sets last night, in what seems to have been a co-ordinated and devastating attack. The thieves made off with every slide-whistle in the prop rooms and has brought the entire Thai entertainment industry to its knees. Unnamed sources in the junta said they suspected red involvement.

Fearing that the Thai public might desperately resort to reading uncensored history books and text books from ferang countries, an emergency shipment of ah-ooga horns is enroute now from the kind British, who are donating the lot and a set of tympani drums from the archived props of the Benny Hill show.

Details will be forthcoming as the story develops.

So long as they don't import VUVUZUELAS from S. Africa. Perhaps THE most annoying sound on the planet.

One of the very few worthwhile things FIFA did for this World Cup (or for ANYthing) was to BAN vuvuzuelas.

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Thais seem to think that dubbing, or controlling what a Thai sees on the TV stops them from committing such actions themselves.Or on the flip side Thais seem to think that if they see the gun shooting another or the knife stabbing someone or the man raping a girl on Tv that this gives them the opinion it is ok for a person to do as well for real.

Their complaints in this OP are unrealistic. It is not what a person sees on TV that dictates right or wrong. My children started watching Freddie and Jason and all the other horror movies when they were little kids. I taught them right off the bat that it is not real and that dead guy they saw on the screen will be in a new movie next year. My kids learned that everything on TV was for show and fun to be laughed at. These morality issues are here simply because so many Thais leave there kids unattended and fail to explain to kids that although they see it on TV does not make it acceptable behavior. They don't give their kids the moral support because they are too busy with their own lives to know what the kids are doing and too busy saying MAI PAN RAI to care or explain. This lack of parental guidance leads this generation to think what they see on TV can be done for real. There is also the fact that the parental guidance they do get teaches them that money, status, and power, gives them explicit permission to say and do what they want want without any real repercussions.

Changing the soaps, dubbing the violence on TV and in movies will not make a difference as long as the parents and authorities continue to show people these things are acceptable.

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Its Pantomime isnt it, My missus and my daughter can't get enough of it . I don't think it Harmful though just rubbish

To be honest, it is more like Punch & Judy, and if that is the only show you watch, yes, it is harmful.

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I have some sympathy for the soap makers.

It must be difficult to think up new story lines when you can't mention sex, drink, drugs, gambling, religion, politics, monarchy, slave labor, separatism, child abuse, and virtually everything else that needs to be aired, if not discussed.

In their shoes, I'd also be tempted to give up and just churn out the mental equivalent of baby food on a conveyor belt basis.

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"Television soaps have clung to damaging cliches far too long."

Most viewers think of this as reality TV. If the shows revolved around plots with intelligent women not obsessed with fashion and whiter skin, men who are sober and don't cheat, happy and stable families, they would be dismissed as pure fiction and lose most of their viewership whistling.gifwhistling.gifwhistling.gif .

No they do not think of this as reality TV. Quite the opposite in fact, where viewers watch these soaps to escape their average lives and step into the world of high society, scandals and intrigue even if most of it is well over the top. One could consider this as a form of escapism and not reality.

They do seem to portray gays as being the village idiots and as being there for no other purposes but to bring amazement as a sideline into the plots. But again there is the danger of bringing too much political correctness into TV soap operas and going overboard with their censorships by the do gooders who like to determine what is and what is not good and decent for the viewers to watch on TV.

I do agree that the writers, directors and the producers should curtail the stereotyping of people of certain persuasions and give them more major roles and credibility into the storylines. The same applies with their portrayals of the housekeepers that are always shown as mindless, silly and subservient that are breed for the purposes of being servants and to obey the commands of their masters without question and are at their beck and call at the click of a finger.

All this should be rectified, but in moderation in a more realistic way, and not to do away with these characters completely. Plus if viewers like jealous, hair pulling, face slapping, vindictive, vicious women and macho guys who dominate beautiful women, then so what? Let the viewers have what they enjoy watching without them having political correctness and righteousness rammed down their throats.

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Every Thai soap use exactly the same script that has been around for decades. Surely they are not expecting the writers to create new scripts Plagiarism has worked fine for years. What could they possibly find to write about if they can't use filthy rich brats, screaming women, ghosts and a few guns. Is there anything else to life?

Just getting them to stop screaming would be a huge improvement.

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"Television soaps have clung to damaging cliches far too long."

Most viewers think of this as reality TV. If the shows revolved around plots with intelligent women not obsessed with fashion and whiter skin, men who are sober and don't cheat, happy and stable families, they would be dismissed as pure fiction and lose most of their viewership whistling.gifwhistling.gifwhistling.gif .

No they do not think of this as reality TV. Quite the opposite in fact, where viewers watch these soaps to escape their average lives and step into the world of high society, scandals and intrigue even if most of it is well over the top. One could consider this as a form of escapism and not reality.

They do seem to portray gays as being the village idiots and as being there for no other purposes but to bring amazement as a sideline into the plots. But again there is the danger of bringing too much political correctness into TV soap operas and going overboard with their censorships by the do gooders who like to determine what is and what is not good and decent for the viewers to watch on TV.

I do agree that the writers, directors and the producers should curtail the stereotyping of people of certain persuasions and give them more major roles and credibility into the storylines. The same applies with their portrayals of the housekeepers that are always shown as mindless, silly and subservient that are breed for the purposes of being servants and to obey the commands of their masters without question and are at their beck and call at the click of a finger.

All this should be rectified, but in moderation in a more realistic way, and not to do away with these characters completely. Plus if viewers like jealous, hair pulling, face slapping, vindictive, vicious women and macho guys who dominate beautiful women, then so what? Let the viewers have what they enjoy watching without them having political correctness and righteousness rammed down their throats.

And you don't think that these programs condition people? These stories have been running in Thailand in various guises for 100 years.

They are an important part of social conditioning deliberately laid into Thai culture to condition people. Of that I have no doubt and there are several books on this subject.

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"Television soaps have clung to damaging cliches far too long."

Most viewers think of this as reality TV. If the shows revolved around plots with intelligent women not obsessed with fashion and whiter skin, men who are sober and don't cheat, happy and stable families, they would be dismissed as pure fiction and lose most of their viewership whistling.gifwhistling.gifwhistling.gif .

No they do not think of this as reality TV. Quite the opposite in fact, where viewers watch these soaps to escape their average lives and step into the world of high society, scandals and intrigue even if most of it is well over the top. One could consider this as a form of escapism and not reality.

They do seem to portray gays as being the village idiots and as being there for no other purposes but to bring amazement as a sideline into the plots. But again there is the danger of bringing too much political correctness into TV soap operas and going overboard with their censorships by the do gooders who like to determine what is and what is not good and decent for the viewers to watch on TV.

I do agree that the writers, directors and the producers should curtail the stereotyping of people of certain persuasions and give them more major roles and credibility into the storylines. The same applies with their portrayals of the housekeepers that are always shown as mindless, silly and subservient that are breed for the purposes of being servants and to obey the commands of their masters without question and are at their beck and call at the click of a finger.

All this should be rectified, but in moderation in a more realistic way, and not to do away with these characters completely. Plus if viewers like jealous, hair pulling, face slapping, vindictive, vicious women and macho guys who dominate beautiful women, then so what? Let the viewers have what they enjoy watching without them having political correctness and righteousness rammed down their throats.

And you don't think that these programs condition people? These stories have been running in Thailand in various guises for 100 years.

They are an important part of social conditioning deliberately laid into Thai culture to condition people. Of that I have no doubt and there are several books on this subject.

And this is your expert opinion, is it?

We are all conditioned and influenced by the media one way or another, even subconsciously sometimes without being aware of it. This is not something exclusive to Thai soap operas.

If you believe that these programmes can be controlling and have bad influences over our behaviours and should be strictly censored or completely taken off the air, than that is also an extreme kind of controlling and takes away our rights to decide what we want to watch for our entertainment. If this is the case, then they may as well cease and desist broadcasting anything those who think they know better consider as being no good for us or bad for our mental stability and have done with it.

Who`s to say what is good for us to watch and what isn`t?

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These soap operas have been of the Thai culture, for too many years! But then it is the same in many countries! I guess I would call them tabloid TV...

I have certainly never seen them to be a benefit to society! They only breed jealousy, of what is a normal relationship as it was meant to be.

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