blackpanda Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Today I stopped in front of the traffic light, like I normally and got pulled aside. The police said I couldn't stop their and gave me ticket. I paid 200 baht and was on my way. I told my student and she said there is new common law for driving in Thailand. I guess it has been in effect as of the 17th of July. Anyone else have any amazing stories to share??? Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ll2 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 (edited) These are not new rules. Just they never enforced them before Police is very active nowadays. No prisoners are taken! Yesterday they were loading bikes with no plate and some with plates but most probably fake plates to a truck. Also for underpasses and overpasses, be careful as i see police camped on them. Guys with no plates, be very careful. They confiscate the bikes of not legally in the system and fine new bikes with no license plate. Besides, be careful with aftermarket pipes too. Take it easy nowadays guys and girls! Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Edited July 22, 2014 by ll2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shurup Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 (edited) BP, so what did you do wrong, stopped past the stopping line? Etc...? Not clear from your OP. LL, What is this rule about under and overpass about? Edited July 22, 2014 by Shurup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ll2 Posted July 22, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2014 BP, so what did you do wrong, stopped past the stopping line? Etc...? Not clear from your OP. LL, What is this rule about under and overpass about? rule is simple; you cannot use them! So, you need to wait for the 10 minute red light like a dog with your 300 k or 600 k thb capable and fast bike while cheaper eco cars were using them. i hate that. I am OK for not using expressways etc but not using under and overpasses are killing me! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackpanda Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 BP, so what did you do wrong, stopped past the stopping line? Etc...? Not clear from your OP. LL, What is this rule about under and overpass about? I usually just stop in front of the car because if I stop next to them or i front of them I feel like one of these great drivers in Thailand will hit me. I also feel like it causes more traffic. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Familyonthemove Posted July 22, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2014 Police making up for lost revenue during the protests when they all ran away and hid to avoid doing their job. Parking a stage and sound system on Asoke junction between the traffic lights for 2 months is OK. Stopping a bike over the white line at the lights for 30 seconds - not OK. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewrooney Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 So my understanding of the 5 rules being cracked down on (from this and other posts): 1. No inappropriate passing 2. Must stop behind the line at a red light 3. No blocking an intersection 4. No driving on the wrong side of the road 5. No fake license plates All seem pretty cut and dry except for #1. I'm not really sure what exactly constitutes that one, maybe somebody can explain it better? As a practical matter the only one that really changes my riding habits is #2, I've been conscious of that one since they announced it. I'm still using overpasses, the time it saves is worth the risk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackpanda Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 (edited) So my understanding of the 5 rules being cracked down on (from this and other posts): 1. No inappropriate passing 2. Must stop behind the line at a red light 3. No blocking an intersection 4. No driving on the wrong side of the road 5. No fake license plates All seem pretty cut and dry except for #1. I'm not really sure what exactly constitutes that one, maybe somebody can explain it better? As a practical matter the only one that really changes my riding habits is #2, I've been conscious of that one since they announced it. I'm still using overpasses, the time it saves is worth the risk. I think #1 is mostly for car, shoving another car out of its own lane or blocking traffic to get into another lane. It seems to me as though all Thai are obliging so I'll do the same. They caught me on #2. I think its mostly enforced in the city areas Sent from my HTC One using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Edited July 22, 2014 by blackpanda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 impossible tp enforce #2 at 18.00 around sathon or sukhumvit or petchaburi. Maybe 50 bikes cross that line at those times and sure impossible to fine them all! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackpanda Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 impossible tp enforce #2 at 18.00 around sathon or sukhumvit or petchaburi. Maybe 50 bikes cross that line at those times and sure impossible to fine them all! Yea they got me at surasak at around 10-11. But during rush hour I think they can't do anything Sent from my HTC One using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brfsa2 Posted July 22, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2014 This rules about not being able to use even the slightly small overpasses or underpasses totally sux. Some overpasses are just so convenient, rather than waste 10-20 minutes in the crazy hot red lights and stupid traffic. It's good that they are enforcing some laws, but many of the laws are so outdated and discriminative. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttakata Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I believe Thai law says you are supposed to pass in the left lanes even though the right lane is the fastest. A Thai told me those dreaded public buses drive so crazy because the crew is paid commissions on the quantity of passengers. So money is a driving factor; not safety or rational thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackpanda Posted July 23, 2014 Author Share Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) I believe Thai law says you are supposed to pass in the left lanes even though the right lane is the fastest. A Thai told me those dreaded public buses drive so crazy because the crew is paid commissions on the quantity of passengers. So money is a driving factor; not safety or rational thinking. Yea it's a joke they even have a bus #8 in latptao area that races another bus and refuses to stop for a single passager. I think they are even making a movie about it.Sent from my HTC One using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Edited July 23, 2014 by blackpanda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bung Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 These are not new rules. Just they never enforced them before Police is very active nowadays. No prisoners are taken! Yesterday they were loading bikes with no plate and some with plates but most probably fake plates to a truck. Also for underpasses and overpasses, be careful as i see police camped on them. Guys with no plates, be very careful. They confiscate the bikes of not legally in the system and fine new bikes with no license plate. Besides, be careful with aftermarket pipes too. Take it easy nowadays guys and girls! Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app How can they fine new bikes with no license plates? You don't get any for a couple of months! You get papers from the dealer where you bought it to carry and show the police. Also don't forget to carry copies of all your green book papers, passport, visa etc on your bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 These are not new rules. Just they never enforced them before Police is very active nowadays. No prisoners are taken! Yesterday they were loading bikes with no plate and some with plates but most probably fake plates to a truck. Also for underpasses and overpasses, be careful as i see police camped on them. Guys with no plates, be very careful. They confiscate the bikes of not legally in the system and fine new bikes with no license plate. Besides, be careful with aftermarket pipes too. Take it easy nowadays guys and girls! Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app How can they fine new bikes with no license plates? You don't get any for a couple of months! You get papers from the dealer where you bought it to carry and show the police. Also don't forget to carry copies of all your green book papers, passport, visa etc on your bike. legally they can actually. They have no chance to know the fact that you did not receive it or you maybe received it but dont put it onto your bike? of course purchase papers work but nowadays they can still fine you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bramds Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 These are not new rules. Just they never enforced them before Police is very active nowadays. No prisoners are taken! Yesterday they were loading bikes with no plate and some with plates but most probably fake plates to a truck. Also for underpasses and overpasses, be careful as i see police camped on them. Guys with no plates, be very careful. They confiscate the bikes of not legally in the system and fine new bikes with no license plate. Besides, be careful with aftermarket pipes too. Take it easy nowadays guys and girls! Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app How can they fine new bikes with no license plates? You don't get any for a couple of months! You get papers from the dealer where you bought it to carry and show the police. Also don't forget to carry copies of all your green book papers, passport, visa etc on your bike. legally they can actually. They have no chance to know the fact that you did not receive it or you maybe received it but dont put it onto your bike? of course purchase papers work but nowadays they can still fine you. You can drive legally without the plate for 30 days, you just have to keep the invoice with you. Problem is, mostly it takes longer than 30 days to get the plate. After 7 weeks of waiting I went to Honda and told them they had to pay the fine if I would get one. Next day I got a call I could pick up my plate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brfsa2 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 These are not new rules. Just they never enforced them before Police is very active nowadays. No prisoners are taken! Yesterday they were loading bikes with no plate and some with plates but most probably fake plates to a truck. Also for underpasses and overpasses, be careful as i see police camped on them. Guys with no plates, be very careful. They confiscate the bikes of not legally in the system and fine new bikes with no license plate. Besides, be careful with aftermarket pipes too. Take it easy nowadays guys and girls! Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app How can they fine new bikes with no license plates? You don't get any for a couple of months! You get papers from the dealer where you bought it to carry and show the police. Also don't forget to carry copies of all your green book papers, passport, visa etc on your bike. legally they can actually. They have no chance to know the fact that you did not receive it or you maybe received it but dont put it onto your bike? of course purchase papers work but nowadays they can still fine you. You can drive legally without the plate for 30 days, you just have to keep the invoice with you. Problem is, mostly it takes longer than 30 days to get the plate. After 7 weeks of waiting I went to Honda and told them they had to pay the fine if I would get one. Next day I got a call I could pick up my plate. That's good to know. LOL My plate took 3 months to arrive. i've been stopped one, showed the invoice and tax document. Police said 'no-no cannoot' so I said ok fine, here is your 100B, and that was it. next day they tried to pull the same on me on the same stop, I just revved up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NomadJoe Posted July 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2014 BP, so what did you do wrong, stopped past the stopping line? Etc...? Not clear from your OP. LL, What is this rule about under and overpass about? rule is simple; you cannot use them! So, you need to wait for the 10 minute red light like a dog with your 300 k or 600 k thb capable and fast bike while cheaper eco cars were using them. i hate that. I am OK for not using expressways etc but not using under and overpasses are killing me! That's the problem. These laws were written in the 70's when the averge motorbike was 50cc and the biggest you would likely ever see is maybe 250. They seriously need to update the laws. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomadJoe Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 These are not new rules. Just they never enforced them before Police is very active nowadays. No prisoners are taken! Yesterday they were loading bikes with no plate and some with plates but most probably fake plates to a truck. Also for underpasses and overpasses, be careful as i see police camped on them. Guys with no plates, be very careful. They confiscate the bikes of not legally in the system and fine new bikes with no license plate. Besides, be careful with aftermarket pipes too. Take it easy nowadays guys and girls! Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app How can they fine new bikes with no license plates? You don't get any for a couple of months! You get papers from the dealer where you bought it to carry and show the police. Also don't forget to carry copies of all your green book papers, passport, visa etc on your bike. Why don't Bangkok motorcycle dealers issue red plates like every where else in Thailand? Are they in collusion with the traffic police in order to make money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomadJoe Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 So you got a ticket and paid it, not paid to the officer, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackpanda Posted July 23, 2014 Author Share Posted July 23, 2014 So you got a ticket and paid it, not paid to the officer, right? I had to walk over to the police station to pay. I refuse to pay the police at the spot. Maybe I pay more but at least it's legal. Sent from my HTC One using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 BP, so what did you do wrong, stopped past the stopping line? Etc...? Not clear from your OP. LL, What is this rule about under and overpass about? rule is simple; you cannot use them! So, you need to wait for the 10 minute red light like a dog with your 300 k or 600 k thb capable and fast bike while cheaper eco cars were using them. i hate that. I am OK for not using expressways etc but not using under and overpasses are killing me! That's the problem. These laws were written in the 70's when the averge motorbike was 50cc and the biggest you would likely ever see is maybe 250. They seriously need to update the laws. But they won't as motorcycles are low so and have almost no connections. I had hoped that the big bike sellers like Honda and Kawasaki would lobby for such things. But i doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1Str8 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Sh.t just got real. Sent from my GT-I9500 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brit_Doggie Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) Lol now thats a new one the thais all weave in and out to get to the front of the traffic lights,gr8 revenue for the thai police 24/7 But issuing maybe 10 tickets at every single set of lights is gonna improve traffic flow right,welcome to thailand. And i did spot the original OPS comment of "pulled me over" Edited July 23, 2014 by Brit_Doggie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wong! Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 So my understanding of the 5 rules being cracked down on (from this and other posts): 1. No inappropriate passing 2. Must stop behind the line at a red light 3. No blocking an intersection 4. No driving on the wrong side of the road 5. No fake license plates All seem pretty cut and dry except for #1. I'm not really sure what exactly constitutes that one, maybe somebody can explain it better? As a practical matter the only one that really changes my riding habits is #2, I've been conscious of that one since they announced it. I'm still using overpasses, the time it saves is worth the risk. I'm confused. I'm sure those are all the things drivers have to do or they will get fined, in Chiang Mai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bramds Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 It are the same rules as in any other civilised country. You stop after the stop line at a traffic light, that is an offense. You run a red light, that is an offense. You get fined for the same things back home. Unless you come from the northpole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewrooney Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 So my understanding of the 5 rules being cracked down on (from this and other posts): 1. No inappropriate passing 2. Must stop behind the line at a red light 3. No blocking an intersection 4. No driving on the wrong side of the road 5. No fake license plates All seem pretty cut and dry except for #1. I'm not really sure what exactly constitutes that one, maybe somebody can explain it better? As a practical matter the only one that really changes my riding habits is #2, I've been conscious of that one since they announced it. I'm still using overpasses, the time it saves is worth the risk. I'm confused. I'm sure those are all the things drivers have to do or they will get fined, in Chiang Mai. Yeah, they seem like pretty normal rules, but in Bangkok it's usually standard practice for bikes to filter to the front at long lights, and park in front of the cars... leaving a lot of the bikes across the line. Sounds like that's what got the OP. As I mentioned, that's the only one that's really changed my riding habits much. It does seem pretty funny that the police were aware there was a problem with fake license plates, and ignored it until now, but TIT etc. etc... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomadJoe Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 So you got a ticket and paid it, not paid to the officer, right? I had to walk over to the police station to pay. I refuse to pay the police at the spot. Maybe I pay more but at least it's legal. Good on you. I have never paid a bribe here and never will. You just put a big target on farangs when you do that. If people stopped asking to pay the cop and stop paying them when they ask, the problem would disappear overnight. Here in Phuket it is rare to hear of a cop taking bribes at traffic stops. They seem to prefer the mass stops with 15-20 cops all citing people in mass for minor offenses. One guy wanted to to me for not signalling when he waved me over, for example. In Thailand police officers are paid by how many tickets and arrests they make. It goes into a general pool then disseminated among st the officers by rank. The higher the rank, the more they get paid. This is not corruption, it is actually policy. Horrible, horrible policy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomadJoe Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Lol now thats a new one the thais all weave in and out to get to the front of the traffic lights,gr8 revenue for the thai police 24/7 But issuing maybe 10 tickets at every single set of lights is gonna improve traffic flow right,welcome to thailand. And i did spot the original OPS comment of "pulled me over" In Bangkok they must also have the big area at the front of the lights that says "Moto sai" in Thai, sometimes in English. Often cars won't block that area and you can wait there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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