AGareth2 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 probably hadn't been doing his job in the past wanted to show his superiors why he was being employed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post agrippinamaior Posted July 31, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2014 I can't understand why everyone is saying it is 'illegal' to stay on tourist visas? Then why do they issue triple entry visas that give you the ability to be a tourist for 9 months that have to be used within a certain period of time. If they issue these visas and tell you that you are able to use them how can it be illegal? Do you have to be constantly moving to be a tourist? I've stayed in Thailand for longer as a tourist. I don't work, I am travelling a bit in the country but the majority of the time I stay in one place because I like it. If you are complying with the rules and simply have a visa that the Thai consulate has issued you how are you doing something illegal? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Flint Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I can't understand why everyone is saying it is 'illegal' to stay on tourist visas? Then why do they issue triple entry visas that give you the ability to be a tourist for 9 months that have to be used within a certain period of time. If they issue these visas and tell you that you are able to use them how can it be illegal? Do you have to be constantly moving to be a tourist? I've stayed in Thailand for longer as a tourist. I don't work, I am travelling a bit in the country but the majority of the time I stay in one place because I like it. If you are complying with the rules and simply have a visa that the Thai consulate has issued you how are you doing something illegal? Triple entry visas are the way to go, no probs with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JordanJames Posted July 31, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2014 I'm under retirement age so can't get a retirement visa, have no interest in studying Thai or anything else in Thailand, and I have income coming in from a business I own in the UK (around 200,000 baht a month). Isn't this what the Elite Card system is for? Do you pay any tax in Thailand? I don't work here and I'm a tourist so why would I pay tax here? I pay tax in the UK where my income comes from. If the Thai government wanted to give me a long-term visa so I could pay tax here, I'd pay tax here. They don't. So I don't. And, no, you'd have to be an idiot to spend 500K on an Elite Card as it has little benefit except you're allowed to stay here. Besides, I like Thailand but there are many other countries I like as much. 500K is close to 2 1/2 months living expenses for me in a more developed country like Spain or Germany, so why waste it on a pointless Elite Card when there are many other countries like Spain or Germany or the whole of the EU that I can spend time in? Let's face it, the only ones willing to jump through the ever narrowing hoops the military junta is throwing at westerners are those with Thai families or who are desperate to remain in Thailand. I'm not married to a Thai and I'm not desperate to stay in Thailand. Hence.....back to Europe with my money. No problem. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadiseLost Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I can't understand why everyone is saying it is 'illegal' to stay on tourist visas? Then why do they issue triple entry visas that give you the ability to be a tourist for 9 months that have to be used within a certain period of time. If they issue these visas and tell you that you are able to use them how can it be illegal? Do you have to be constantly moving to be a tourist? I've stayed in Thailand for longer as a tourist. I don't work, I am travelling a bit in the country but the majority of the time I stay in one place because I like it. If you are complying with the rules and simply have a visa that the Thai consulate has issued you how are you doing something illegal? You are correct in everything you say, but for every honest decent person wanting to do this there are countless undesirables who take advantage of a lax system to live and work illegally in the country. How can immigration and border control tell the difference? Criminals have money too... As for multiple entry tourist visas I think the idea is you would be travellling around the region and using Thailand as a first and last destination, thus allowing hassle free re-entry at the border - not reside in the country for 90 day intervals, repeatedly doing border hops. So, while it is technically legal to do it, the fact that you are intent on living in Thailand contradicts the reasons you gave when applying for a tourist visa. A loophole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agrippinamaior Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> I can't understand why everyone is saying it is 'illegal' to stay on tourist visas? Then why do they issue triple entry visas that give you the ability to be a tourist for 9 months that have to be used within a certain period of time. If they issue these visas and tell you that you are able to use them how can it be illegal? Do you have to be constantly moving to be a tourist? I've stayed in Thailand for longer as a tourist. I don't work, I am travelling a bit in the country but the majority of the time I stay in one place because I like it. If you are complying with the rules and simply have a visa that the Thai consulate has issued you how are you doing something illegal? Triple entry visas are the way to go, no probs with that. Ah cool - but some people on the forum seem to make it sound like people are doing something wrong by using the perfectly legal visas issued by the government of the country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Flint Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> I can't understand why everyone is saying it is 'illegal' to stay on tourist visas? Then why do they issue triple entry visas that give you the ability to be a tourist for 9 months that have to be used within a certain period of time. If they issue these visas and tell you that you are able to use them how can it be illegal? Do you have to be constantly moving to be a tourist? I've stayed in Thailand for longer as a tourist. I don't work, I am travelling a bit in the country but the majority of the time I stay in one place because I like it. If you are complying with the rules and simply have a visa that the Thai consulate has issued you how are you doing something illegal? Triple entry visas are the way to go, no probs with that. Ah cool - but some people on the forum seem to make it sound like people are doing something wrong by using the perfectly legal visas issued by the government of the country. I am from the uk, and if i wanted a triple entry, i would go back and get from Birmingham or Hull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agrippinamaior Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> I can't understand why everyone is saying it is 'illegal' to stay on tourist visas? Then why do they issue triple entry visas that give you the ability to be a tourist for 9 months that have to be used within a certain period of time. If they issue these visas and tell you that you are able to use them how can it be illegal? Do you have to be constantly moving to be a tourist? I've stayed in Thailand for longer as a tourist. I don't work, I am travelling a bit in the country but the majority of the time I stay in one place because I like it. If you are complying with the rules and simply have a visa that the Thai consulate has issued you how are you doing something illegal? 'You are correct in everything you say, but for every honest decent person wanting to do this there are countless undesirables who take advantage of a lax system to live and work illegally in the country. How can immigration and border control tell the difference? Criminals have money too... As for multiple entry tourist visas I think the idea is you would be travellling around the region and using Thailand as a first and last destination, thus allowing hassle free re-entry at the border - not reside in the country for 90 day intervals, repeatedly doing border hops. So, while it is technically legal to do it, the fact that you are intent on living in Thailand contradicts the reasons you gave when applying for a tourist visa. A loophole.' How is it a loophole? There is no rule that says you have to leave the country? It can't be designed for going in and out because they offer 15-30 day visa exemptions that cover that for genuine tourists. If they didn't want it to be used that way there would be a rule that says you need to leave the country within x days and they wouldn't offer extensions. How can they tell the difference? They can't, which is why people who are genuinely tourists and not working nor criminals are genuinely at a loss to know what to do Edited July 31, 2014 by agrippinamaior 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JordanJames Posted July 31, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2014 "I have been living here on and off LEGALLY on tourist visas" A small point - tourist visa does not grant you right of residence - only a non immigrant visa allows stays of longer than 90 days. Not about to lecture you on visa abuse but if you skirt around the rules knowing fully well you do not comply with regulations then you can hardly cry foul when prevented from re-entering the country... Both you and your money are very welcome - just choose one of the many legal options available. And please stop complaining about options that do not exist. Why don't you just buy an elite card as you are so flush? Sounds like 500k is not a lot to you? ROTFL. There was no 'skirting around the rules'. I AM a legal tourist and I did choose the 'legal option'. Definition - in the country WITH a tourist visa, traveling around Thailand, staying in various hotels and resorts etc for an extended period of time as a tourist. Why is this so difficult for some people to understand? That there are those of us who are under 50 and do have money and don't need to work. That may not apply to you. It does, however, apply to a fair number of us. And, btw, I have the right visa. I've always had the right visa. A visa that was given to me by 3 different Thai embassies with no questions asked. Why? Because I don't work here or anywhere else and I have plenty of money to support myself as the bank statement I was asked for at one embassy proves. Besides, there haven't been any rules about back-to-back tourist visas for years, so you can keep going on about a 'not legal' visa as much as you want. The fact is the tourist visas I have had to be in Thailand AS A TOURIST were completely legal. Until the Thai military junta have now decided that from now on they're not. Hilarious really when you consider the Tourism Authority of Thailand is already saying tourist numbers will be down by several million this year. They're about to fall a lot more. No worries for me though. In most other countries, people like me are who they want. Those who spend extended periods of time in the country, travel around and spend a lot of money while they're there. And get the right visa? Which one would that be? The retirement visa I'm not old enough for? Or the ED visa they're now clamping down on and that will allow me to study something I don't want to study? Now those are the dodgy visas. Like I said, no problem. I'm NOT married to Thailand, so leaving isn't a hassle for me. So, no, not complaining, just commenting before I leave. I do, however, think you will be one of those 'complaining' when the next round of clampdowns start and you're one of those targeted. Anyway, not going to keep wasting anymore time here. I have packing to do. Good luck to those who aren't affected yet. Don't hold out much hope that will last much longer though. The junta is in power for at least another year. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadiseLost Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> I can't understand why everyone is saying it is 'illegal' to stay on tourist visas? Then why do they issue triple entry visas that give you the ability to be a tourist for 9 months that have to be used within a certain period of time. If they issue these visas and tell you that you are able to use them how can it be illegal? Do you have to be constantly moving to be a tourist? I've stayed in Thailand for longer as a tourist. I don't work, I am travelling a bit in the country but the majority of the time I stay in one place because I like it. If you are complying with the rules and simply have a visa that the Thai consulate has issued you how are you doing something illegal? 'You are correct in everything you say, but for every honest decent person wanting to do this there are countless undesirables who take advantage of a lax system to live and work illegally in the country. How can immigration and border control tell the difference? Criminals have money too... As for multiple entry tourist visas I think the idea is you would be travellling around the region and using Thailand as a first and last destination, thus allowing hassle free re-entry at the border - not reside in the country for 90 day intervals, repeatedly doing border hops. So, while it is technically legal to do it, the fact that you are intent on living in Thailand contradicts the reasons you gave when applying for a tourist visa. A loophole.' How is it a loophole? There is no rule that says you have to leave the country? It can't be designed for going in and out because they offer 15-30 day visa exemptions that cover that for genuine tourists. If they didn't want it to be used that way there would be a rule that says you need to leave the country within x days and they wouldn't offer extensions. How can they tell the difference? They can't, which is why people who are genuinely tourists and not working nor criminals are genuinely at a loss to know what to do This argument has played itself out so many times here... If you are staying in hotels, touring, eating in restaurants every day then yes, I agree you are a tourist. If however, you have bought property, own vehicles, and consider this your permanent home - then no, I do not agree you are merely a poor hard done by tourist; you are exploiting a loophole by lying when applying for a tourist visa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JordanJames Posted July 31, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2014 I can't understand why everyone is saying it is 'illegal' to stay on tourist visas? Then why do they issue triple entry visas that give you the ability to be a tourist for 9 months that have to be used within a certain period of time. If they issue these visas and tell you that you are able to use them how can it be illegal? Do you have to be constantly moving to be a tourist? I've stayed in Thailand for longer as a tourist. I don't work, I am travelling a bit in the country but the majority of the time I stay in one place because I like it. If you are complying with the rules and simply have a visa that the Thai consulate has issued you how are you doing something illegal? It's not illegal. It's just the TV crowd who are desperate to prove it's only those 'abusing the system' who are being targeted. Wonder what they'll say when it's their turn up at the podium? Where will the support for the military junta's new rules be then? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JordanJames Posted July 31, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> I can't understand why everyone is saying it is 'illegal' to stay on tourist visas? Then why do they issue triple entry visas that give you the ability to be a tourist for 9 months that have to be used within a certain period of time. If they issue these visas and tell you that you are able to use them how can it be illegal? Do you have to be constantly moving to be a tourist? I've stayed in Thailand for longer as a tourist. I don't work, I am travelling a bit in the country but the majority of the time I stay in one place because I like it. If you are complying with the rules and simply have a visa that the Thai consulate has issued you how are you doing something illegal? 'You are correct in everything you say, but for every honest decent person wanting to do this there are countless undesirables who take advantage of a lax system to live and work illegally in the country. How can immigration and border control tell the difference? Criminals have money too... As for multiple entry tourist visas I think the idea is you would be travellling around the region and using Thailand as a first and last destination, thus allowing hassle free re-entry at the border - not reside in the country for 90 day intervals, repeatedly doing border hops. So, while it is technically legal to do it, the fact that you are intent on living in Thailand contradicts the reasons you gave when applying for a tourist visa. A loophole.' How is it a loophole? There is no rule that says you have to leave the country? It can't be designed for going in and out because they offer 15-30 day visa exemptions that cover that for genuine tourists. If they didn't want it to be used that way there would be a rule that says you need to leave the country within x days and they wouldn't offer extensions. How can they tell the difference? They can't, which is why people who are genuinely tourists and not working nor criminals are genuinely at a loss to know what to do This argument has played itself out so many times here... If you are staying in hotels, touring, eating in restaurants every day then yes, I agree you are a tourist. If however, you have bought property, own vehicles, and consider this your permanent home - then no, I do not agree you are merely a poor hard done by tourist; you are exploiting a loophole by lying when applying for a tourist visa. I've always thought you'd have to be nuts to buy any kind of property in Thailand. The country is far too unstable and has been for as long as I've been working here, coming here or here as a tourist. You couldn't pay me to buy anything in Thailand that would prevent me leaving at the drop of a hat. In fact, I'm actually amazed at the farangs that do and have just presumed they have money to burn. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFarAndNear Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) I can't understand why everyone is saying it is 'illegal' to stay on tourist visas? Then why do they issue triple entry visas that give you the ability to be a tourist for 9 months that have to be used within a certain period of time. If they issue these visas and tell you that you are able to use them how can it be illegal? Do you have to be constantly moving to be a tourist? I've stayed in Thailand for longer as a tourist. I don't work, I am travelling a bit in the country but the majority of the time I stay in one place because I like it. If you are complying with the rules and simply have a visa that the Thai consulate has issued you how are you doing something illegal? Most countries give you 3 month, 6 months or even 1 year tourist visas. This system is/was about $$$ much $$$$ . Actually what Thai Immigration is doing now is pretty unfair, for many years everyone tells yet it is okay you can do that. They pretend to you what you are doing is okay. Come here stay, spend your money. Visa tours, other foreigners and even immigration officers told you how it is done. Now in just a few weeks they start to clean out these people who build a life here. Bought property, cars etc... many trillions of THB and now...get the f**k out! Edited July 31, 2014 by SoFarAndNear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JordanJames Posted July 31, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2014 I can't understand why everyone is saying it is 'illegal' to stay on tourist visas? Then why do they issue triple entry visas that give you the ability to be a tourist for 9 months that have to be used within a certain period of time. If they issue these visas and tell you that you are able to use them how can it be illegal? Do you have to be constantly moving to be a tourist? I've stayed in Thailand for longer as a tourist. I don't work, I am travelling a bit in the country but the majority of the time I stay in one place because I like it. If you are complying with the rules and simply have a visa that the Thai consulate has issued you how are you doing something illegal? Most countries give you 3 month, 6 months or even 1 year tourist visas. This system is/was about $$$ much $$$$ . Actually what Thai Immigration is doing now is pretty unfair, for many years everyone tells yet it is okay you can do that. They pretend to you what you are doing is okay. Come here stay, spend your money. Visa tours, other foreigners and even immigration officers told you how it is done. Now in just a few weeks they start to clean out these people who build a life here.... I'm a citizen of an EU country so, for me, I can live in any EU country for at least 6 months with no need to do anything. After that, in most countries, I'm required to register and pay taxes. I have no problem with that and, if Thailand allowed me to do that, I would have done so if I wanted to stay a long time. As they won't, the European country I eventually settle in will be the beneficiary of my income and my taxes. And without having to do any more bloody visa runs :) (I won't even get into the idiocy of Thailand giving you a 6-month tourist visa and then requiring you to leave to get the last 3 months activated). Oh and Malaysia is another option if I decide to come back to Asia for a while down the road. An immediate 90 days at the airport for free, and another 90 days given at the immigration office within Malaysia with no need to do visa runs to get it. Now there's a country that understands how making it easy for people to visit and travel benefits them. Thailand? It will be decades before they finally get it. And, on that note, I really do have packing to do. Don't want to leave anything behind by mistake :) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFarAndNear Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> I can't understand why everyone is saying it is 'illegal' to stay on tourist visas? Then why do they issue triple entry visas that give you the ability to be a tourist for 9 months that have to be used within a certain period of time. If they issue these visas and tell you that you are able to use them how can it be illegal? Do you have to be constantly moving to be a tourist? I've stayed in Thailand for longer as a tourist. I don't work, I am travelling a bit in the country but the majority of the time I stay in one place because I like it. If you are complying with the rules and simply have a visa that the Thai consulate has issued you how are you doing something illegal? 'You are correct in everything you say, but for every honest decent person wanting to do this there are countless undesirables who take advantage of a lax system to live and work illegally in the country. How can immigration and border control tell the difference? Criminals have money too... As for multiple entry tourist visas I think the idea is you would be travellling around the region and using Thailand as a first and last destination, thus allowing hassle free re-entry at the border - not reside in the country for 90 day intervals, repeatedly doing border hops. So, while it is technically legal to do it, the fact that you are intent on living in Thailand contradicts the reasons you gave when applying for a tourist visa. A loophole.' How is it a loophole? There is no rule that says you have to leave the country? It can't be designed for going in and out because they offer 15-30 day visa exemptions that cover that for genuine tourists. If they didn't want it to be used that way there would be a rule that says you need to leave the country within x days and they wouldn't offer extensions. How can they tell the difference? They can't, which is why people who are genuinely tourists and not working nor criminals are genuinely at a loss to know what to do This argument has played itself out so many times here... If you are staying in hotels, touring, eating in restaurants every day then yes, I agree you are a tourist. If however, you have bought property, own vehicles, and consider this your permanent home - then no, I do not agree you are merely a poor hard done by tourist; you are exploiting a loophole by lying when applying for a tourist visa. Why are you not a tourist? Why are you allowed to buy all of this as a 'tourist'?! And what visa you can apply for if you spent "under" 10 mio THB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkoklasse Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I can't understand why everyone is saying it is 'illegal' to stay on tourist visas? Then why do they issue triple entry visas that give you the ability to be a tourist for 9 months that have to be used within a certain period of time. If they issue these visas and tell you that you are able to use them how can it be illegal? Do you have to be constantly moving to be a tourist? I've stayed in Thailand for longer as a tourist. I don't work, I am travelling a bit in the country but the majority of the time I stay in one place because I like it. If you are complying with the rules and simply have a visa that the Thai consulate has issued you how are you doing something illegal? Most countries give you 3 month, 6 months or even 1 year tourist visas. This system is/was about $$$ much $$$$ . Actually what Thai Immigration is doing now is pretty unfair, for many years everyone tells yet it is okay you can do that. They pretend to you what you are doing is okay. Come here stay, spend your money. Visa tours, other foreigners and even immigration officers told you how it is done. Now in just a few weeks they start to clean out these people who build a life here. Bought property, cars etc... many trillions of THB and now...get the <deleted> out! You are only allowed to stay 60+30 on the tourist visa. Even if people here all the time say that they stay 9 months with the triple visa, they don't really do that. They have to leave Thailand at least two times 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadiseLost Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 ROTFL. There was no 'skirting around the rules'. I'm a citizen of an EU country so, for me, I can live in any EU country for at least 6 months with no need to do anything. After that, in most countries, I'm required to register and pay taxes. There you go - you can now return to skirting around the law in your own neck of the woods... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asiantravel Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> I can't understand why everyone is saying it is 'illegal' to stay on tourist visas? Then why do they issue triple entry visas that give you the ability to be a tourist for 9 months that have to be used within a certain period of time. If they issue these visas and tell you that you are able to use them how can it be illegal? Do you have to be constantly moving to be a tourist? I've stayed in Thailand for longer as a tourist. I don't work, I am travelling a bit in the country but the majority of the time I stay in one place because I like it. If you are complying with the rules and simply have a visa that the Thai consulate has issued you how are you doing something illegal? 'You are correct in everything you say, but for every honest decent person wanting to do this there are countless undesirables who take advantage of a lax system to live and work illegally in the country. How can immigration and border control tell the difference? Criminals have money too... As for multiple entry tourist visas I think the idea is you would be travellling around the region and using Thailand as a first and last destination, thus allowing hassle free re-entry at the border - not reside in the country for 90 day intervals, repeatedly doing border hops. So, while it is technically legal to do it, the fact that you are intent on living in Thailand contradicts the reasons you gave when applying for a tourist visa. A loophole.' How is it a loophole? There is no rule that says you have to leave the country? It can't be designed for going in and out because they offer 15-30 day visa exemptions that cover that for genuine tourists. If they didn't want it to be used that way there would be a rule that says you need to leave the country within x days and they wouldn't offer extensions. How can they tell the difference? They can't, which is why people who are genuinely tourists and not working nor criminals are genuinely at a loss to know what to do This argument has played itself out so many times here... If you are staying in hotels, touring, eating in restaurants every day then yes, I agree you are a tourist. If however, you have bought property, own vehicles, and consider this your permanent home - then no, I do not agree you are merely a poor hard done by tourist; you are exploiting a loophole by lying when applying for a tourist visa. I've always thought you'd have to be nuts to buy any kind of property in Thailand. The country is far too unstable and has been for as long as I've been working here, coming here or here as a tourist. You couldn't pay me to buy anything in Thailand that would prevent me leaving at the drop of a hat. In fact, I'm actually amazed at the farangs that do and have just presumed they have money to burn. and these visa revisions will potentially reduce the condo buying market even further, despite the fact that buildings are going up like mushrooms in Pattaya. " Don't let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in thirty seconds flat, if you feel the heat around the corner." Robert De Niro in the movie “ Heat “ Edited July 31, 2014 by Asiantravel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadiseLost Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 This argument has played itself out so many times here... If you are staying in hotels, touring, eating in restaurants every day then yes, I agree you are a tourist. If however, you have bought property, own vehicles, and consider this your permanent home - then no, I do not agree you are merely a poor hard done by tourist; you are exploiting a loophole by lying when applying for a tourist visa. Why are you not a tourist? Why are you allowed to buy all of this as a 'tourist'?! And what visa you can apply for if you spent "under" 10 mio THB? Let me ask you this - on a tourist visa you have managed to purchase property in your name, register a car, in your name? No. As a tourist you do not have the right to ownership. Your land is in a Thai company or national's name, is it not? Do you own more than 49%, even though you may 'control' the company? I won't dare to ask how many 'control' their wives Be honest, those who have 'invested' 'large' amounts of money here, those who no longer can live here on a tourist visa only have themselves to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alocacoc Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 This argument has played itself out so many times here... If you are staying in hotels, touring, eating in restaurants every day then yes, I agree you are a tourist. If however, you have bought property, own vehicles, and consider this your permanent home - then no, I do not agree you are merely a poor hard done by tourist; you are exploiting a loophole by lying when applying for a tourist visa. Why are you not a tourist? Why are you allowed to buy all of this as a 'tourist'?! And what visa you can apply for if you spent "under" 10 mio THB? As a tourist you do not have the right to ownership. That's wrong. A tourist can buy whatever he want, but land. I just bought and registered a motorcycle on my name. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFarAndNear Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 This argument has played itself out so many times here... If you are staying in hotels, touring, eating in restaurants every day then yes, I agree you are a tourist. If however, you have bought property, own vehicles, and consider this your permanent home - then no, I do not agree you are merely a poor hard done by tourist; you are exploiting a loophole by lying when applying for a tourist visa. Why are you not a tourist? Why are you allowed to buy all of this as a 'tourist'?! And what visa you can apply for if you spent "under" 10 mio THB? Let me ask you this - on a tourist visa you have managed to purchase property in your name, register a car, in your name? No. As a tourist you do not have the right to ownership. Your land is in a Thai company or national's name, is it not? Do you own more than 49%, even though you may 'control' the company? I won't dare to ask how many 'control' their wives Be honest, those who have 'invested' 'large' amounts of money here, those who no longer can live here on a tourist visa only have themselves to blame. Yes you can buy a car! You need a residence certificate from your embassy. Yes you can buy property. You can buy a condo! Now one mentioned business or company ownership. Let's be honest?! Yes somehow it is maybe not smart to buy. But People where told for many years or decades (also by Immigration) what they are doing is okay. Now they have to leave their property?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sustento Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Thanks for this report. This is now a third mention on TVF of someone having problems with NON-ED in the past two days. I guess the crackdown on NON-ED is officially starting From the OP: "His ED visa is valid until January." Why are you talking about NON-ED? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paz Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 "His ED visa is valid until January." Why are you talking about NON-ED? You have been chastising people since years but haven't learn the slang yet? Non-immigrant ED. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NoshowJones Posted July 31, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2014 I fully agree with the Junta trying to keep illegal workers etc, out of Thailand, but there always seems to be this mentality, that if the visa you want needs 100 pages of paperwork, they always seem to want 101, the people who want to live full time, or part time, or be a tourist here, or work here with the right visas and work permit, and are genuinely contributing to Thailands economy, stop making it so hard for them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Several posts and replies to them have been removed for various reasons. Please stay on topic. keep it civil and no trolling.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanJames Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 ROTFL. There was no 'skirting around the rules'. I'm a citizen of an EU country so, for me, I can live in any EU country for at least 6 months with no need to do anything. After that, in most countries, I'm required to register and pay taxes. There you go - you can now return to skirting around the law in your own neck of the woods... Skirting the law? What? On valid tourist visas, as a tourist, traveling all over Thailand and spending my UK-earned income? I'll be sure to tell everyone I know when I get back to Europe, DO NOT VISIT THAILAND as apparently tourists are 'skirting the law' in Thailand if they spend more than a couple of days in the country. Personally, I'm guessing the Thai government would rather have me than so many of the farangs currently in Thailand on 'retirement visas' and 'ED visas' yet illegally teaching here. But, they'll no longer have that option as I'll be spending my hard-earned money in Europe. But do expect to hear me laughing when the next round of visa clampdowns hits you and you are then one of those 'skirting the law' - ROTFL. Done here. TV never disappoints me. Nor the farangs that troll the forums. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Shouldn't this post title read, "farang tourist admitted to Thailand after Immigration authorities ask him some questions"! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandasloan Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) In my opinion your post could be called scare or rumor mongering. There has been no indication of any sort of changes. The reports for ED visas and extension has been going on for some time. It occurred to me immediately that the proper, factual title of the thread should be: My friend entered at Suvarnabhumi yesterday with a non-imm ED visa. Shouldn't this post title read, "farang tourist admitted to Thailand after Immigration authorities ask him some questions"! . Clock says you beat me to it! Edited July 31, 2014 by wandasloan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawan Chan 7 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 And so it goes on.. The "just get a real visa" crowd must be starting to feel a little less sure of themselves. Retirement visas are next according to a Thai I know at Thai immigration. Wonder what the 'get rid of the scumbags' crowd are going to say then when they suddenly can't get a retirement visa anymore? I believe too, this is the next logical step. Probably earlier then later. I don't believe this for one minute. What's wrong with the oldies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 And so it goes on.. The "just get a real visa" crowd must be starting to feel a little less sure of themselves. Retirement visas are next according to a Thai I know at Thai immigration. Wonder what the 'get rid of the scumbags' crowd are going to say then when they suddenly can't get a retirement visa anymore? I believe too, this is the next logical step. Probably earlier then later. I don't believe this for one minute. What's wrong with the oldies? Agreed, there's a couple on here who have lost the plot completely, pampers sales must be soaring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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