One for you mechanical engineers and/or suspension experts

[Zeegator]

Nope, the other way around, it's been modified to world wide standards since most of the old codgers here were born. Get with it, the empire is no longer..

No, it's been modified to American (low) standards and only by Americans!

I'm not arguing your silly trolling posts anymore, just get with it and catch up on your education there's more people world wide speaking proper American English than Briglish.. Just based on Americans alone outnumbering Brits and even the Canadians speak 21st century American English these days to add to the numbers. But the mere fact that a wing is a wing and a fender is fender is good enough reason to update and expand your vocabulary.

Get back to us when you've found your sense of humour.

[Zeegator]

Yeah I could really give a toss Wilco, (how's that for Britglish vernacular?) it hurts you guys more than it does me, That's obvious by the whining, moaning and fanny slapping you're all giving each other, just learn the modern language eh??

Judging by the tone of your responses it clearly irritates you more than any of us, who are trying to make light of the differences that you keep banging on about so seriously.

Fanny slapping, eh? Lovely.

[Zeegator]

Yes, your right it should be ridget with no movement.....NOT!

Its funny understands what im saying and you dont, you knowing all that is.

YOU ARE A KNOWER !

PS. GO BACK ON YOUR MEDS

You want to insult Mr.___- for brains.

A shock is fitted to sprung suspension to stop bounce, if you had no shock the spring would not stop bouncing and you would "kangaroo" down the black top.

PS. Stay out my way newbie....

No, a shock it fitted to reduce bounce.

I would like nothing more, never having to converse with you again.

All you have to do is rot reply to what i post

Later Knower !

Charlie

Transam is right, you are wrong. Shock absorbers are designed to stop the vehicle bouncing on it's suspension by reducing the bounce until there is none.

Nobody in their right mind wants any element of bounce in the suspension, in normal road use what most people want is for the springs to smooth out the imperfections in the road surface and for the shockers to stop the bounce that the springs induce.

[arthurwait]

My old Chassis and dynamics lecturers would have told you all off.

Dampers are used to control.

Oh and any of you dare say plastic.

[Crossy]

Don't they call "shock-absorbers" "dampers" (the proper name) in the US?

Anyway, enough of the off-topic language discussions, we all know that Indian English is the most spoken version

[wilcopops]

Yeah I could really give a toss Wilco, (how's that for Britglish vernacular?) it hurts you guys more than it does me, That's obvious by the whining, moaning and fanny slapping you're all giving each other, just learn the modern language eh??

Now there's an interesting idiom " I could really give a toss" - whereas in many other parts of the world (there ARE places outside US where English is spoken) it would be

​"I really couldn't give a toss"...an how about the positioning of that adverb? ModernLanguage - again shows you have no idea how English works or its history.

WS - what you could do with isn't a lesson in English or mechanics, you need a lesson in critical thinking, it would help immensely both you and other users conversing with you to have a conversation that resembles intelligent.

[wilcopops]

Yes, your right it should be ridget with no movement.....NOT!

Its funny understands what im saying and you dont, you knowing all that is.

YOU ARE A KNOWER !

PS. GO BACK ON YOUR MEDS

You want to insult Mr.___- for brains.

A shock is fitted to sprung suspension to stop bounce, if you had no shock the spring would not stop bouncing and you would "kangaroo" down the black top.

PS. Stay out my way newbie....

No, a shock it fitted to reduce bounce.

I would like nothing more, never having to converse with you again.

All you have to do is rot reply to what i post

Later Knower !

Charlie

Transam is right, you are wrong. Shock absorbers are designed to stop the vehicle bouncing on it's suspension by reducing the bounce until there is none.

Nobody in their right mind wants any element of bounce in the suspension, in normal road use what most people want is for the springs to smooth out the imperfections in the road surface and for the shockers to stop the bounce that the springs induce.

look at the NAME - they ABSORB or DAMP movement - this does not imply that bouncing will cease but reduce or "control" it.

[charlie42]

Yes, your right it should be ridget with no movement.....NOT!

Its funny understands what im saying and you dont, you knowing all that is.

YOU ARE A KNOWER !

PS. GO BACK ON YOUR MEDS

You want to insult Mr.___- for brains.

A shock is fitted to sprung suspension to stop bounce, if you had no shock the spring would not stop bouncing and you would "kangaroo" down the black top.

PS. Stay out my way newbie....

No, a shock it fitted to reduce bounce.

I would like nothing more, never having to converse with you again.

All you have to do is rot reply to what i post

Later Knower !

Charlie

Transam is right, you are wrong. Shock absorbers are designed to stop the vehicle bouncing on it's suspension by reducing the bounce until there is none.

Nobody in their right mind wants any element of bounce in the suspension, in normal road use what most people want is for the springs to smooth out the imperfections in the road surface and for the shockers to stop the bounce that the springs induce.

Shock absorbers are designed to stop the vehicle bouncing on it's suspension by reducing the bounce until there is none.

Please read what you have just posted..... ( by reducing the bounce ).

your words not mine.

I think that's what i said.

I fully understand what your trying to say, Also nice of you to come to the rescue of a friend

I have no wish to get into anymore tit for tat arguments with anyone.

That behavior is for the playground and were all big boys here, aren't we ?.

A good day to all

Charlie

[transam]

, I have been trying to help folk here for years, you come along and slag me off for know reason, now you are talking about our playground behaviour that you started.......

Think you should back off, go back and read your playground post.......

[charlie42]

, I have been trying to help folk here for years, you come along and slag me off for know reason, now you are talking about our playground behaviour that you started.......

Think you should back off, go back and read your playground post.......

im sure you have been helping people here for years.

good for you.

After been proven wrong, you had nothing to say.

when i try to make it better you come back with this..

it takes a bigger man to admit he has been wrong.

i may have been a little harsh on my first response.

but your ( stay out of my way newbie ) is pure playground.

like (i was here first ) get over yourself !.

Charlie.

[transam]

, I have been trying to help folk here for years, you come along and slag me off for know reason, now you are talking about our playground behaviour that you started.......

Think you should back off, go back and read your playground post.......

im sure you have been helping people here for years.

good for you.

After been proven wrong, you had nothing to say.

when i try to make it better you come back with this..

it takes a bigger man to admit he has been wrong.

i may have been a little harsh on my first response.

but your ( stay out of my way newbie ) is pure playground.

like (i was here first ) get over yourself !.

Charlie.

Seems you want to dig yourself a deeper hole, thats OK by me......

[bkkjames]

Tranny, this one is for you http://carmaxpraram9.com/importcar/chevrolet-camaro-zl1-coupe-facelift/#

[charlie42]

, I have been trying to help folk here for years, you come along and slag me off for know reason, now you are talking about our playground behaviour that you started.......

Think you should back off, go back and read your playground post.......

im sure you have been helping people here for years.

good for you.

After been proven wrong, you had nothing to say.

when i try to make it better you come back with this..

it takes a bigger man to admit he has been wrong.

i may have been a little harsh on my first response.

but your ( stay out of my way newbie ) is pure playground.

like (i was here first ) get over yourself !.

Charlie.

Seems you want to dig yourself a deeper hole, thats OK by me......

As i stated earlier, I would like nothing more, not havin to converse with you.

Lets both be grown ups and leave it at that....

[bkkjames]

a refresher course for all concerned.. http://auto.howstuffworks.com/car-suspension.htm lol

[JAS21]

a refresher course for all concerned.. http://auto.howstuffworks.com/car-suspension.htm lol

And here is another http://www.carbibles.com/suspension_bible_pg4.html

[Zeegator]

No, a shock it fitted to reduce bounce.

I would like nothing more, never having to converse with you again.

All you have to do is rot reply to what i post

Later Knower !

Charlie

Transam is right, you are wrong. Shock absorbers are designed to stop the vehicle bouncing on it's suspension by reducing the bounce until there is none.

Nobody in their right mind wants any element of bounce in the suspension, in normal road use what most people want is for the springs to smooth out the imperfections in the road surface and for the shockers to stop the bounce that the springs induce.

look at the NAME - they ABSORB or DAMP movement - this does not imply that bouncing will cease but reduce or "control" it.

That's exactly what I said but...and as you seem to like capitals...

what YOU call THEM is IRRELEVANT, but I have cars that DON'T continue to bounce along at all after hitting a bump, so according to your logic they must have faulty shock absorbers? Balderdash.

[wilcopops]

a refresher course for all concerned.. http://auto.howstuffworks.com/car-suspension.htm lol

hence my mention of speed bumps......

[wilcopops]

No, a shock it fitted to reduce bounce.

I would like nothing more, never having to converse with you again.

All you have to do is rot reply to what i post

Later Knower !

Charlie

Transam is right, you are wrong. Shock absorbers are designed to stop the vehicle bouncing on it's suspension by reducing the bounce until there is none.

Nobody in their right mind wants any element of bounce in the suspension, in normal road use what most people want is for the springs to smooth out the imperfections in the road surface and for the shockers to stop the bounce that the springs induce.

look at the NAME - they ABSORB or DAMP movement - this does not imply that bouncing will cease but reduce or "control" it.

That's exactly what I said but...and as you seem to like capitals...

what YOU call THEM is IRRELEVANT, but I have cars that DON'T continue to bounce along at all after hitting a bump, so according to your logic they must have faulty shock absorbers? Balderdash.

you have the comprehension and critical abilities of a five year old.

despite your assertions I didn't invent the English Language....here's another word for you to grapple with

"springiness, spring; resilience, elasticity, give, rebound, recoil." - I think you'd have a very unpleasant experience driving if your suspension didn't have some of these properties. the word is BOUNCE

[Kwasaki]

No rebound.

[WarpSpeed]

Yeah I could really give a toss Wilco, (how's that for Britglish vernacular?) it hurts you guys more than it does me, That's obvious by the whining, moaning and fanny slapping you're all giving each other, just learn the modern language eh??

Now there's an interesting idiom " I could really give a toss" - whereas in many other parts of the world (there ARE places outside US where English is spoken) it would be

​"I really couldn't give a toss"...an how about the positioning of that adverb? ModernLanguage - again shows you have no idea how English works or its history.

WS - what you could do with isn't a lesson in English or mechanics, you need a lesson in critical thinking, it would help immensely both you and other users conversing with you to have a conversation that resembles intelligent.

I see the usual cheer leaders have given you likes but they are just as clueless on the language so not a very good endorsement. Anyway just use proper terminology in here, a wing is a wing and fender is a fender and all will be well, save that other nonsensical tripe for your tefl'r courses..

[WarpSpeed]

You want to insult Mr.___- for brains.

A shock is fitted to sprung suspension to stop bounce, if you had no shock the spring would not stop bouncing and you would "kangaroo" down the black top.

PS. Stay out my way newbie....

No, a shock it fitted to reduce bounce.

I would like nothing more, never having to converse with you again.

All you have to do is rot reply to what i post

Later Knower !

Charlie

Transam is right, you are wrong. Shock absorbers are designed to stop the vehicle bouncing on it's suspension by reducing the bounce until there is none.

Nobody in their right mind wants any element of bounce in the suspension, in normal road use what most people want is for the springs to smooth out the imperfections in the road surface and for the shockers to stop the bounce that the springs induce.

Shock absorbers are designed to stop the vehicle bouncing on it's suspension by reducing the bounce until there is none.

Please read what you have just posted..... ( by reducing the bounce ).

your words not mine.

I think that's what i said.

I fully understand what your trying to say, Also nice of you to come to the rescue of a friend

I have no wish to get into anymore tit for tat arguments with anyone.

That behavior is for the playground and were all big boys here, aren't we ?.

A good day to all

Charlie

Honestly to weigh in on this, it seems that semantics have taken this discussion over, clearly it's a fender not a wing, that's the real topic at hand. .. Seriously though, both definitions are correct with only marginal differences in meaning, and it seems there is more in common in the description then not in common, unlike the fender/wing discussion which are polar opposites of each other, their purposes and locations.

[WarpSpeed]

, I have been trying to help folk here for years, you come along and slag me off for know reason, now you are talking about our playground behaviour that you started.......

Think you should back off, go back and read your playground post.......

Not at all unlike many of your enlisted buddies have done to me over the years. Suddenly you have a disagreement with me and they come out of the woodwork all with less than 10 posts and most of them on the thread in question of the time? Curious?

[WarpSpeed]

Tranny, this one is for you http://carmaxpraram9.com/importcar/chevrolet-camaro-zl1-coupe-facelift/#

That's a toy, they need to get a hell cat or 2 over there.. But I know, it's not GM...

[WarpSpeed]

No rebound.

Is that no rebound? Or yes rebound? Or just no, rebound?

[MW72]

Nope, the other way around, it's been modified to world wide standards since most of the old codgers here were born. Get with it, the empire is no longer..

No, it's been modified to American (low) standards and only by Americans!

I'm not arguing your silly trolling posts anymore, just get with it and catch up on your education there's more people world wide speaking proper American English than Briglish.. Just based on Americans alone outnumbering Brits and even the Canadians speak 21st century American English these days to add to the numbers. But the mere fact that a wing is a wing and a fender is fender is good enough reason to update and expand your vocabulary.

Totally off topic but is the west wing of the Whitehouse aerodynamic and does it produce lift or is this another example of how our wonderful shared language has words which can mean many things? e.g. The wing of a house, A footballer (soccer player) playing on the wing, right &left wing politics, the wing of a car, the wing of a bird, the wing of a plane.

You say hood we say bonnet, you say trunk we say boot, you say fender we say wing. What's the big deal? By saying wing we certainly aren't showing our ignorance of language as there are many different meanings for the word wing.

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[Crossy]

OK gentlemen (and I use that word advisedly) ENOUGH!

Further bickering on language issues WILL net holidays. Surely we have all seen enough of each others TV to understand the different meanings of words on either side of The Pond. I always thought a Fender was a guitar

It doesn't really matter what the bit in the centre of the spring (or any other part of the car) is called, it does not help our OP with his suspension issue.

By the way I had the opportunity to bounce (or actually not bounce) JAS21's car the other day, the front feels absolutely rigid, even 100+ kg of Brit didn't cause it to dip, I too was more worried about denting the bodywork.

[WarpSpeed]

Funny how you chimed in just at the moment that no response could be had but let another one stand.. BTW Fender is a guitar NAMED after the designer.

[Crossy]

And with that this topic is closed.

I'm sure our OP will PM me when he has a solution at which point I may consider re-opening.

EDIT Re-opened at OP's request for update.

Let's keep the language issues out this time

[JAS21]

And with that this topic is closed.

I'm sure our OP will PM me when he has a solution at which point I may consider re-opening.

EDIT Re-opened at OP's request for update.

Let's keep the language issues out this time

The update is ... the ride is now fine ... as someone suggested and also the lady at RICCO confirmed ... THEY WILL BED IN ... and they have.

[pgrahmm]

I admit I didn't read all the answers/thoughts/posts so someone might have said this before.....

OEM are usually not the best quality....is it possible the OEM was a single action "shock" - allowed tires quick movement upward upon road bump impact and returned the tires at a controlled rate......

And now - the shock is double action - controlled up & down which would result in a stiffer ride but be better all around for the vehicle and components.....

That might be a possibility......

Don't know what tires were put on but maybe a stiffer sidewall coupled with a stiffer action shock?