Michael Brown shooting: Obama calls for calm

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Michael Brown shooting: Obama calls for calm

WASHINGTON: -- US President Barack Obama has appealed for calm in Ferguson, Missouri, after the shooting of a black teenager by police sparked two nights of violence.

He described the death on Saturday of Michael Brown as heartbreaking and added: "Remember this young man through reflection and understanding."

In two nights of unrest in the St Louis suburb, dozens were arrested, shops looted and tear gas fired by police.

Civil rights activist, the Reverend Al Sharpton, also appealed for peace.

"To become violent in Michael Brown's name is to betray the gentle giant he was," he said, flanked by Mr Brown's parents.

He said no-one had the right to take Michael Brown's name and "drag it through the mud".

Full story: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28764278

[bbc]2014-08-13[/bbc]
 

[MrBlobby99]

Rioting is not the answer.

 

Would they do it when a Mexican or white dude gets shot by police undeservedly?

 

Hell no.

 

The type of people using this as an excuse to riot are the same types who rioted in London a few years back, they were merely criminal scumbags who had nothing other than looting in mind.

 

Call out the army, declare martial law in the district and shoot these scum on the spot.

 

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NteNCOXxWPY[/media]

 

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k93xcaYlm_8[/media]

Edited August 13, 2014 by MrBlobby99

[DiamondKing]

Some holes in the story here I watched the interview with his friend and what he said is not beleiveable

 

the cop had my friend by the throat choking him through the window of the patrol car now considering his family nickname is the gentle giant I am wondering just how this cop managed to do that unless the youth was indeed reaching into his car for his gun

Edited August 13, 2014 by DiamondKing

[zydeco]

This case is over. CNN has already decided that the policeman is guilty.  It's just a matter of whether he is hanged or put in a dungeon for life.

[shirtless]

In America the police are like an army, this is by no way an isolated case.

[Publicus]

President Obama is right, people need to reflect and meditate at this particular time rather than get emotional or to get emotional about people who get emotional.

[F430murci]

In America the police are like an army, this is by no way an isolated case.

Nah, the vast majority of cops in the US (99%) are good guys and do a good jobs. You watch too much TV or Hollywood movies. Sure, there are a few bad cops out there, but they are the exception to the rule and no cop is going to execute some young black kid just for kicks in broad daylight.

Cops im general are honorable guys, that do a very difficult job, under very stressful conditions, and who see crap and experience sad situations that no human should have to endure. They also do it for crap pay. Working in some of the rougher areas really takes a toll on these guys. Perhaps the most under appreciated workforce in our society.

[F430murci]

President Obama is right, people need to reflect and meditate at this particular time rather than get emotional or to get emotional about people who get emotional.

Where is Obama or Holder when young white men or women are gunned down in broad day light in hate crimes? They are BS and racist.

[TVGerry]

Hate looters. Some people are genuinely angry while these looters are taking the opportunity from the chaos to rob shops. Pure scum.

[Wat dee]

 

In America the police are like an army, this is by no way an isolated case.

Nah, the vast majority of cops in the US (99%) are good guys and do a good jobs. You watch too much TV or Hollywood movies. Sure, there are a few bad cops out there, but they are the exception to the rule and no cop is going to execute some young black kid just for kicks in broad daylight.

Cops im general are honorable guys, that do a very difficult job, under very stressful conditions, and who see crap and experience sad situations that no human should have to endure. They also do it for crap pay. Working in some of the rougher areas really takes a toll on these guys. Perhaps the most under appreciated workforce in our society.

 

If 99% are good guys, then Police force in states must be bigger than Armed forces! Watching youtube videos,I'm surprised there aren't more cops killed.

 

 

[Publicus]

Police are good people so there's no bad rap by me against police. Police do have a down, dirty and dangerous job and the nature of the work quickly takes a toll psychologically and emotionally.

 

Firefighter, police, military are the three most deadly jobs in the world, in that order, so the police get my support and sympathy.

 

Police in the United States however have become heavily armed and extensively trained in riots, civil disorder, repression. They look more like soldiers and the places they apply their powerful force look more like Iraq than the United States, but these are local police in an obscure police force in the geographic and demographic center of the United States.

 

And the police force in Ferguson, Missouri is 94% white in a community that is 2/3 black. This is the basic recipe for what finally did occur..

 

 

 

 

Police wearing riot gear try to disperse a crowd Monday, Aug. 11, 2014, in Ferguson, Mo.

 

 

 

 

 

Police wearing riot gear point their weapons at a car as it pulls away after tear gas was used by authorities Monday, Aug. 11, 2014, in Ferguson, Mo. (AP Photo/Jeff Roberson)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tactical officers fire tear gas on Monday, Aug. 11, 2014, in Ferguson, Mo.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Police wearing riot gear walk toward a man with his hands raised Monday, Aug. 11, 2014, in Ferguson, Mo.

 

 

 

 

Tactical officers fire tear gas on Monday, Aug. 11, 2014, in Ferguson, Mo.

 

 

 

 

 

 

FERGUSON, MO – AUGUST 11:

 

 

 

The Little-Covered Aspect of the Unrest in Ferguson: The Alarming Militarization of Local Police

 

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/08/12/the-little-covered-aspect-of-the-unrest-in-ferguson-the-alarming-militarization-of-local-police-photos/

[LawrenceN]

I grew up in Ferguson, Missouri. I know it well. It has been through some changes since I left 40 years ago. That QuikTrip store that was looted and burned was on the site of a gas station that was owned (during my childhood) by neighbors of ours.

 

My brother is an emergency room doctor at the nearest hospital, which is called Christian Northwest. Moments ago, I read email from him in which he said that his hospital's internet speed was drastically slowed down by Twitter tweets inviting people to come loot a shopping mall. There was an unusual number of Illinois (about ten miles away, just across the Mississippi) license plates in the area, responding to the invitation, presumably. East St. Louis, one big slum except for the casinos, is just across the river.

 

Sorry if this sounds racist. It seems to fit a pattern.

[Asiantravel]

Police are good people so there's no bad rap by me against police. Police do have a down, dirty and dangerous job and the nature of the work quickly takes a toll psychologically and emotionally.

 

Firefighter, police, military are the three most deadly jobs in the world, in that order, so the police get my support and sympathy.

 

Police in the United States however have become heavily armed and extensively trained in riots, civil disorder, repression. They look more like soldiers and the places they apply their powerful force look more like Iraq than the United States, but these are local police in an obscure police force in the geographic and demographic center of the United States.

 

And the police force in Ferguson, Missouri is 94% white in a community that is 2/3 black. This is the basic recipe for what finally did occur..

 

Police wearing riot gear try to disperse a crowd Monday, Aug. 11, 2014, in Ferguson, Mo.

 

Police wearing riot gear point their weapons at a car as it pulls away after tear gas was used by authorities Monday, Aug. 11, 2014, in Ferguson, Mo. (AP Photo/Jeff Roberson)

 

Tactical officers fire tear gas on Monday, Aug. 11, 2014, in Ferguson, Mo.

 

Police wearing riot gear walk toward a man with his hands raised Monday, Aug. 11, 2014, in Ferguson, Mo.

 

Tactical officers fire tear gas on Monday, Aug. 11, 2014, in Ferguson, Mo.

 

FERGUSON, MO – AUGUST 11:

 

 

 

The Little-Covered Aspect of the Unrest in Ferguson: The Alarming Militarization of Local Police

 

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/08/12/the-little-covered-aspect-of-the-unrest-in-ferguson-the-alarming-militarization-of-local-police-photos/

 

"  They look more like soldiers and the places they apply their powerful force look more like Iraq than the United States, but these are local police in an obscure police force in the geographic and demographic center of the United States. "

 

 

So do you agree with this statement Publicus ?

 

" The police are being transformed from protecting the public into protecting government from the public. "

 

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/08/11/protests-turn-to-free-for-all/

Edited August 13, 2014 by Scott
Photos edited out

[Asiantravel]

Are they trying to keep the news helicopters out?

 

 

the FAA announced that starting 1315 UTC through 2000 UTC on August 12, "No pilots may operate an aircraft in the Ferguson area  

 

http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_4_2599.html#restrictions

[F430murci]

I grew up in Ferguson, Missouri. I know it well. It has been through some changes since I left 40 years ago. That QuikTrip store that was looted and burned was on the site of a gas station that was owned (during my childhood) by neighbors of ours.
 
My brother is an emergency room doctor at the nearest hospital, which is called Christian Northwest. Moments ago, I read email from him in which he said that his hospital's internet speed was drastically slowed down by Twitter tweets inviting people to come loot a shopping mall. There was an unusual number of Illinois (about ten miles away, just across the Mississippi) license plates in the area, responding to the invitation, presumably. East St. Louis, one big slum except for the casinos, is just across the river.
 
Sorry if this sounds racist. It seems to fit a pattern.

Yes, East St. Louis is a bad, rough place. I used to race at Gateway Speedway 2 times a years. Crap hole.

[Publicus]

 

Police are good people so there's no bad rap by me against police. Police do have a down, dirty and dangerous job and the nature of the work quickly takes a toll psychologically and emotionally.

 

Firefighter, police, military are the three most deadly jobs in the world, in that order, so the police get my support and sympathy.

 

Police in the United States however have become heavily armed and extensively trained in riots, civil disorder, repression. They look more like soldiers and the places they apply their powerful force look more like Iraq than the United States, but these are local police in an obscure police force in the geographic and demographic center of the United States.

 

And the police force in Ferguson, Missouri is 94% white in a community that is 2/3 black. This is the basic recipe for what finally did occur..

 

Police wearing riot gear try to disperse a crowd Monday, Aug. 11, 2014, in Ferguson, Mo.

 

Police wearing riot gear point their weapons at a car as it pulls away after tear gas was used by authorities Monday, Aug. 11, 2014, in Ferguson, Mo. (AP Photo/Jeff Roberson)

 

Tactical officers fire tear gas on Monday, Aug. 11, 2014, in Ferguson, Mo.

 

Police wearing riot gear walk toward a man with his hands raised Monday, Aug. 11, 2014, in Ferguson, Mo.

 

Tactical officers fire tear gas on Monday, Aug. 11, 2014, in Ferguson, Mo.

 

FERGUSON, MO – AUGUST 11:

 

 

 

The Little-Covered Aspect of the Unrest in Ferguson: The Alarming Militarization of Local Police

 

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/08/12/the-little-covered-aspect-of-the-unrest-in-ferguson-the-alarming-militarization-of-local-police-photos/

 

"  They look more like soldiers and the places they apply their powerful force look more like Iraq than the United States, but these are local police in an obscure police force in the geographic and demographic center of the United States. "

 

 

So do you agree with this statement Publicus ?

 

" The police are being transformed from protecting the public into protecting government from the public. "

 

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/08/11/protests-turn-to-free-for-all/

 

 

That's an off the wall question. People around here don't usually post such a flying quote or such a leading question even when providing a link to it. Not anyway unless the people or person have an agenda they might be pursuing. I'm just saying.......

 

I'd prefer to provide my own caption / cutlines to the photo below in my post that you quote.

 

 

Police wearing riot gear walk toward a man with his hands raised Monday, Aug. 11, 2014, in Ferguson, Mo.

 

 

My own caption lines to the photo, written below in Italic would be as follows:

 

"Civilian man whose empty hands are in the air is suspected by Ferguson, Missouri paramilitary police forces of walking on a community public sidewalk while wearing a blue shirt, dark trousers and perhaps being in need of a haircut."

 

I don't see any white middle class Obamanaughts out there (such as myself). So I'd figure that they don't need to be repressed by local paramilitary forces hell-bent to protect the local or county government from its citizens, if that's what the question in your post might mean. 

 

Neither do I see any white middle class Republican party people out there except perhaps the local paramilitary forces aiming their military carbine category weapons at the man's head. So it could well look like the local or county government might not need protecting against ordinary white middle class Republican party civilian people either, or against civilian Independent voters for that matter. 

 

If that might be what your post could mean.

 

I'm only a paunchy over ripe ordinary bourgeois civilian so I don't really know that I myself or that anyone like me should or might feel threatened in any way at all by my government. 

 

It might be a different story though were I wearing a blue shirt, dark trousers, had my empty hands in the air and all the while using a community public sidewalk while a whole bunch of local paramilitary forces just happened to be strolling through the area too.

 

If that's what the question in your post might mean.

[H1w4yR1da]

This thread is full of white middle-class liberal Obama voters on a guilt-trip playing the race card "Oh those poor minorities!" Don't worry! Race-baiting hustlers like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and Eric Holder have that area covered for you.
If you attack armed cops (or neighborhood watch in Trayvon's case), you get what's coming to you.
I've seen it so often in the UK. Minorities behaving atrociously and then playing the race card when held to account, supported by their lefty white sympathizers.
If someone offers up any criticism aimed at minorities, the shrill cries of 'racist', 'bigot'' or 'fascist' are screamed out in order to silence any debate on the matter. Reminds me of their blind support for Hamas.

[Ulysses G.]

I agree with every word you said, but there are police officers that abuse their positions too. I'm not sure who is lying here, but someone is. 

[Asiantravel]

from very bad to much worse ..................

 

Missouri police 'shoot second man' in city where teenager was killed

 

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/13/missouri-police-shoot-man-city-teenager-killed

Edited August 13, 2014 by Asiantravel

[TheWizardofRnR]

Lets all understand one thing for certain ??? Just like the looting that goes on during Protests against

Wall St. , Nuclear Power and  Wars,

when violence breaks out as in the case of this shooting ; it has nothing to do with the people who are peacefully protesting these events . What occurs is this , criminal elements who can give a less about whose protesting and what they are protesting about; They create the violence and the looting ,as a way of tying up POLICE personnel ! This enables them to commit there robberies under the guise of caring about the cause but really being there only to use it for their criminal activity.

Unfortunately , many innocent and good people will get caught up in the violence ,

either defending themselves from the Police : because they are in the wrong place at the right time! Thus ,tying up more Police , so the bad guys can keep up their looting! I have personally seen this go on in NYC during the Anti-War Demonstrations during the Vietnam War era. Not all demonstrators are guilty of looting , they just get dragged into the heat of the Moment ! Not that all the POLICE are innocent either , but when the starts , they tend to be a bit scared too ! I mean they also can get caught up in Survivor mode , which we know leads to innocent blood being shed , which also benefits the bad guys ! It's happened here in Thailand too , since I got here in '85 . More then just a few times !

 

Edited August 13, 2014 by TheWizardofRnR

[Asiantravel]

 

 

Police are good people so there's no bad rap by me against police. Police do have a down, dirty and dangerous job and the nature of the work quickly takes a toll psychologically and emotionally.

 

Firefighter, police, military are the three most deadly jobs in the world, in that order, so the police get my support and sympathy.

 

Police in the United States however have become heavily armed and extensively trained in riots, civil disorder, repression. They look more like soldiers and the places they apply their powerful force look more like Iraq than the United States, but these are local police in an obscure police force in the geographic and demographic center of the United States.

 

And the police force in Ferguson, Missouri is 94% white in a community that is 2/3 black. This is the basic recipe for what finally did occur..

 

Police wearing riot gear try to disperse a crowd Monday, Aug. 11, 2014, in Ferguson, Mo.

 

Police wearing riot gear point their weapons at a car as it pulls away after tear gas was used by authorities Monday, Aug. 11, 2014, in Ferguson, Mo. (AP Photo/Jeff Roberson)

 

Tactical officers fire tear gas on Monday, Aug. 11, 2014, in Ferguson, Mo.

 

Police wearing riot gear walk toward a man with his hands raised Monday, Aug. 11, 2014, in Ferguson, Mo.

 

Tactical officers fire tear gas on Monday, Aug. 11, 2014, in Ferguson, Mo.

 

FERGUSON, MO – AUGUST 11:

 

 

 

The Little-Covered Aspect of the Unrest in Ferguson: The Alarming Militarization of Local Police

 

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/08/12/the-little-covered-aspect-of-the-unrest-in-ferguson-the-alarming-militarization-of-local-police-photos/

 

"  They look more like soldiers and the places they apply their powerful force look more like Iraq than the United States, but these are local police in an obscure police force in the geographic and demographic center of the United States. "

 

 

So do you agree with this statement Publicus ?

 

" The police are being transformed from protecting the public into protecting government from the public. "

 

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/08/11/protests-turn-to-free-for-all/

 

 

That's an off the wall question. People around here don't usually post such a flying quote or such a leading question even when providing a link to it. Not anyway unless the people or person have an agenda they might be pursuing. I'm just saying.......

 

I'd prefer to provide my own caption / cutlines to the photo below in my post that you quote.

 

 

Police wearing riot gear walk toward a man with his hands raised Monday, Aug. 11, 2014, in Ferguson, Mo.

 

 

My own caption lines to the photo, written below in Italic would be as follows:

 

"Civilian man whose empty hands are in the air is suspected by Ferguson, Missouri paramilitary police forces of walking on a community public sidewalk while wearing a blue shirt, dark trousers and perhaps being in need of a haircut."

 

I don't see any white middle class Obamanaughts out there (such as myself). So I'd figure that they don't need to be repressed by local paramilitary forces hell-bent to protect the local or county government from its citizens, if that's what the question in your post might mean. 

 

Neither do I see any white middle class Republican party people out there except perhaps the local paramilitary forces aiming their military carbine category weapons at the man's head. So it could well look like the local or county government might not need protecting against ordinary white middle class Republican party civilian people either, or against civilian Independent voters for that matter. 

 

If that might be what your post could mean.

 

I'm only a paunchy over ripe ordinary bourgeois civilian so I don't really know that I myself or that anyone like me should or might feel threatened in any way at all by my government. 

 

It might be a different story though were I wearing a blue shirt, dark trousers, had my empty hands in the air and all the while using a community public sidewalk while a whole bunch of local paramilitary forces just happened to be strolling through the area too.

 

If that's what the question in your post might mean.

 

 

 

 No the question in my post was suggesting that although a scenario in which the government would need protecting from the people hasn't happened yet,  they must be getting increasingly worried that such scenario will occur at somepoint.

 

Just one example-if there was another disruption (perhaps much longer this time) to the foodstamp program it is likely many of the people that will no longer be able to access their EBT cards will “lose it “.  

 

There must be a reason for such a noticeable buildup in military hardware being acquired by police departments. What is your theory for such buildup?

 

 

And read this article from the Guardian, which suggests that don't have to have a blue shirt, dark trousers and long hair to be scared witless by SWAT teams. It seems to be happening to ordinary American families according to this article.

 

 

Research by Peter Kraska, a professor at Kentucky University, has tracked the exponential growth in the use of paramilitary tactics in the US. In the 1980s there were as few as 3,000 Swat raids a year, but by around 2005 that number had leapt to 45,000.

 

“We have to address the way that police in this country are armed as if they are invading a foreign land,” Mawuli said. “It’s disturbing, and innocent people are hurting.”

 

 

 

http://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/jun/24/military-us-police-swat-teams-raids-aclu

Edited August 13, 2014 by Asiantravel

[Asiantravel]

Lets all understand one thing for certain ??? Just like the looting that goes on during Protests against

Wall St. , Nuclear Power and  Wars,

when violence breaks out as in the case of this shooting ; it has nothing to do with the people who are peacefully protesting these events . What occurs is this , criminal elements who can give a less about whose protesting and what they are protesting about; They create the violence and the looting ,as a way of tying up POLICE personnel ! This enables them to commit there robberies under the guise of caring about the cause but really being there only to use it for their criminal activity.

Unfortunately , many innocent and good people will get caught up in the violence ,

either defending themselves from the Police : because they are in the wrong place at the right time! Thus ,tying up more Police , so the bad guys can keep up their looting! I have personally seen this go on in NYC during the Anti-War Demonstrations during the Vietnam War era. Not all demonstrators are guilty of looting , they just get dragged into the heat of the Moment ! Not that all the POLICE are innocent either , but when the starts , they tend to be a bit scared too ! I mean they also can get caught up in Survivor mode , which we know leads to innocent blood being shed , which also benefits the bad guys ! It's happened here in Thailand too , since I got here in '85 . More then just a few times !

 

 

They are claiming they have been peacefully protesting and doing no more than shouting “  "Hands up, don't shoot."
 

[sustento]

Police are good people so there's no bad rap by me against police. Police do have a down, dirty and dangerous job and the nature of the work quickly takes a toll psychologically and emotionally.

 

Firefighter, police, military are the three most deadly jobs in the world, in that order, so the police get my support and sympathy.

 

Firefighters and the police aren't even in the top ten of deaths per capita employed in the USA. Logging and deep sea fishing are far more dangerous. In the UK it's deep sea fishing and merchant seamen.

 

http://newsfeed.time.com/2014/01/15/these-are-the-top-10-most-dangerous-jobs-in-the-u-s/

 

[Publicus]

<snip>

.
If someone offers up any criticism aimed at minorities, the shrill cries of 'racist', 'bigot'' or 'fascist' are screamed out in order to silence any debate on the matter.

 

<snip>

 

I hadn't seen any one of the three words at the thread until I read them in your post.

 

I'm dealing with a shooting death in Ferguson, Missouri.

 

I'm not carrying all that much baggage into it.

 

I try to travel lightly and without making too much noise or racket.

[Publicus]

No the question in my post was suggesting that although a scenario in which the government would need protecting from the people hasn't happened yet,  they must be getting increasingly worried that such scenario will occur at somepoint.

 

Just one example-if there was another disruption (perhaps much longer this time) to the foodstamp program it is likely many of the people that will no longer be able to access their EBT cards will “lose it “.  

 

There must be a reason for such a noticeable buildup in military hardware being acquired by police departments. What is your theory for such buildup?

 

 

And read this article from the Guardian, which suggests that don't have to have a blue shirt, dark trousers and long hair to be scared witless by SWAT teams. It seems to be happening to ordinary American families according to this article.

 

 

Research by Peter Kraska, a professor at Kentucky University, has tracked the exponential growth in the use of paramilitary tactics in the US. In the 1980s there were as few as 3,000 Swat raids a year, but by around 2005 that number had leapt to 45,000.

 

“We have to address the way that police in this country are armed as if they are invading a foreign land,” Mawuli said. “It’s disturbing, and innocent people are hurting.”

 

 

 

http://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/jun/24/military-us-police-swat-teams-raids-aclu

 

 

As to your first paragraph it's speculation to try to assert the government "must be" realizing it needs protection against its own people. That's your bent and your concoction. 

 

In your 2nd paragraph "lose it" is rather vague and non-specific, not to mention a remote and distant non-contingency I hope no one is spending any taxpayer money on.

 

As to your 3rd graf, I don't have any theory of your case that you have created, nor do I need a "theory" that accounts for a problem you see or that would recognize your bizarre unique view of things.

 

The Guardian article has much value, in no small part because it doesn't say anything about the paranoid unusual notion the government in Washington is allegedly preparing local and/or state police to protect it against the public.

 

Correct to say, as you do say, "...although a scenario in which the government would need protecting from the people hasn't happened yet...:"    

 

I'd say you are indeed correct concerning the last point.

 

And I'm encouraged to think you will remain correct in this regard for a long time to come......

[arjunadawn]

There are some serious revelations here. I have noted, like so many, the militarization of LEA in the US. Nothing but bad can come from changing the mindset of law enforcement to military-like. It therefore follows that when this mindset is adopted either outright, or by deportment and equipment, the enemy becomes those whom you serve. It cannot be otherwise. America is a police state and citizens are increasingly seen as those who must be managed.

 

Ethnic minorities in the US have both a valid point frequently- regarding LEA targeting or profiling blacks, and also their tendency to embrace victimization to softly attack the majority, even where there is no real product of discrimination. Therefore, increasingly, when they don't get their way as a collective they destroy or manipulate through White-Guilt (a corruption of blood or Bill of Attainder for crimes no white person alive today ever committed). They destroy because if left alone, in a vacuum, this is what they would do anyone. It cannot be otherwise. If destruction is your first refuge when enraged it can hardly be called a restrained characteristic. This is a base quality of those who declare "Victim." How do you respond to such guilt ridden hostage taking of the national dialogue of local issue? In this case, the local issue, the police officer is now guilty before even investigated. I have a problem with people behaving like animals but I have a greater problem with law enforcement in America today. American cops are increasingly the bad guys. Whether this is true or perception it does not matter; both are equally as horrible.

 

The Yenta-Wash-Woman-Obama wades in yet again to another local issue. Why? By wading in he achieves a few things. He defines himself as a leader of those rioting- exclusively, and he commands the office of the Presidency behind their actions granting ipso facto legitimacy. Obama is a fool, but a dangerous one.

[CMNightRider]

In America the police are like an army, this is by no way an isolated case.

 

"In America the police are like an army????"  What on earth do you mean by that statement?  Are you one of those people that have had the benefit of being a recipient of correctional services??  OMG!!    

[CMNightRider]

There are some serious revelations here. I have noted, like so many, the militarization of LEA in the US. Nothing but bad can come from changing the mindset of law enforcement to military-like. It therefore follows that when this mindset is adopted either outright, or by deportment and equipment, the enemy becomes those whom you serve. It cannot be otherwise. America is a police state and citizens are increasingly seen as those who must be managed.

 

Ethnic minorities in the US have both a valid point frequently- regarding LEA targeting or profiling blacks, and also their tendency to embrace victimization to softly attack the majority, even where there is no real product of discrimination. Therefore, increasingly, when they don't get their way as a collective they destroy or manipulate through White-Guilt (a corruption of blood or Bill of Attainder for crimes no white person alive today ever committed). They destroy because if left alone, in a vacuum, this is what they would do anyone. It cannot be otherwise. If destruction is your first refuge when enraged it can hardly be called a restrained characteristic. This is a base quality of those who declare "Victim." How do you respond to such guilt ridden hostage taking of the national dialogue of local issue? In this case, the local issue, the police officer is now guilty before even investigated. I have a problem with people behaving like animals but I have a greater problem with law enforcement in America today. American cops are increasingly the bad guys. Whether this is true or perception it does not matter; both are equally as horrible.

 

The Yenta-Wash-Woman-Obama wades in yet again to another local issue. Why? By wading in he achieves a few things. He defines himself as a leader of those rioting- exclusively, and he commands the office of the Presidency behind their actions granting ipso facto legitimacy. Obama is a fool, but a dangerous one.

 

 

Do you hear voices?  If so, please ignore them.  Although, the last sentence about Obama, does make a little sense. :-)

[Asiantravel]

There are some serious revelations here. I have noted, like so many, the militarization of LEA in the US. Nothing but bad can come from changing the mindset of law enforcement to military-like. It therefore follows that when this mindset is adopted either outright, or by deportment and equipment, the enemy becomes those whom you serve. It cannot be otherwise. America is a police state and citizens are increasingly seen as those who must be managed.

 

Ethnic minorities in the US have both a valid point frequently- regarding LEA targeting or profiling blacks, and also their tendency to embrace victimization to softly attack the majority, even where there is no real product of discrimination. Therefore, increasingly, when they don't get their way as a collective they destroy or manipulate through White-Guilt (a corruption of blood or Bill of Attainder for crimes no white person alive today ever committed). They destroy because if left alone, in a vacuum, this is what they would do anyone. It cannot be otherwise. If destruction is your first refuge when enraged it can hardly be called a restrained characteristic. This is a base quality of those who declare "Victim." How do you respond to such guilt ridden hostage taking of the national dialogue of local issue? In this case, the local issue, the police officer is now guilty before even investigated. I have a problem with people behaving like animals but I have a greater problem with law enforcement in America today. American cops are increasingly the bad guys. Whether this is true or perception it does not matter; both are equally as horrible.

 

The Yenta-Wash-Woman-Obama wades in yet again to another local issue. Why? By wading in he achieves a few things. He defines himself as a leader of those rioting- exclusively, and he commands the office of the Presidency behind their actions granting ipso facto legitimacy. Obama is a fool, but a dangerous one.

 

“ the enemy becomes those whom you serve. It cannot be otherwise. America is a police state and citizens are increasingly seen as those who must be managed. “

 

I agree with this .

Publicus seemed reluctant to speculate on the reasons why this is happening,  Why do you think police forces in America have so dramatically changed this way? What is it in your opinion that has made the authorities look upon those they are serving (and those that are paying the taxes that actually pay their salaries ) as their potential enemy?

 

[Asiantravel]

 

In America the police are like an army, this is by no way an isolated case.

 

"In America the police are like an army????"  What on earth do you mean by that statement?  Are you one of those people that have had the benefit of being a recipient of correctional services??  OMG!!    

 

 

" What on earth do you mean by that statement? "
 

 

 

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/09/us/war-gear-flows-to-police-departments.html

Edited August 14, 2014 by Asiantravel