Michael Brown killing: State police take over riot-hit US town

[joepublic]

When the details are all revealed, only then we can really understand what happened, but the police are dragging their feet on this - why?

What we do know is the police continually refused to provide details of what happened to an enraged public causing suspicion and mistrust. They then release the video of Brown carrying out a criminal act, against the wishes of the DOJ - who know this will only inflame people and they were right.

Interesting. In one sentence JP complains about the police "dragging their feet" on giving the public details. Then, in the next sentence, he complains about the police giving out details that he doesn't want to hear.

So the video explains why the cop shot Brown..?

[Scott]

Off-topic post deleted and some posts edited.

[zydeco]

When the details are all revealed, only then we can really understand what happened, but the police are dragging their feet on this - why?

What we do know is the police continually refused to provide details of what happened to an enraged public causing suspicion and mistrust. They then release the video of Brown carrying out a criminal act, against the wishes of the DOJ - who know this will only inflame people and they were right.

Interesting. In one sentence JP complains about the police "dragging their feet" on giving the public details. Then, in the next sentence, he complains about the police giving out details that he doesn't want to hear.

So the video explains why the cop shot Brown..?

What the video may well explain is why the cop backed up and stopped Brown. The policeman heard the report of the robbery in the vicinity, spotted one of the few 6'4" 300 lb people matching the description (red baseball hat, tan trousers, white T-shirt, and thongs), and carrying Swisher Sweets by the handful. It may also help explain the state of mind of Big Mike--he had just committed a robbery, the adrenaline was still flowing, and he knew the police would be on the lookout for him. A definitely connects with B.

[Ulysses G.]

So the video explains why the cop shot Brown..?

It certain shows that he was a violent thug.

The policeman who shot Brown initially stopped him for walking in the street and blocking traffic but, the officer saw cigars in Browns hands and thought he might be a suspect in the robbery, which had been announced on the police radio a few minutes previously.

By the way, NONE of the shots were in Brown's back, although all his homies swore that he had been shot from behind. So much for their credibility.

[Publicus]

So the video explains why the cop shot Brown..?

It certain shows that he was a violent thug.

The policeman who shot Brown initially stopped him for walking in the street and blocking traffic but, the officer saw cigars in Browns hands and thought he might be a suspect in the robbery, which had been announced on the police radio a few minutes previously.

By the way, NONE of the shots were in Brown's back, although all his homies swore that he had been shot from behind. So much for their credibility.

Where's the record of Michael Brown the violent thug?

There isn't one, not to this moment.

Michael Brown did not commit armed robbery as he had no weapon nor did Brown threaten the life or safety of an armed, trained police officer who has 6 years experience on the force. If Brown had lifted a couple of handsfull of cheap cigars it would be a case of petty theft.

What violent thug?

I recall the initial rumors of Brown being shot in the back which no doubt began because a cop was chasing him and firing multiple shots at Brown's back side. After a few hours of chaos and confusion, the shooting was clarified, at least to the point it was clear Brown had not been shot in the back although the fact Brown was unarmed is the one constant throughout this awful event.

The short lived rumor of Brown's being shot in the back is long gone and was early disposed of so there's no need to try and dredge it up now.

As I'd said, there's a lot of wild speculation and fiction writing going on around here.

Let's stick to the non-fiction stuff which is bad enough.

Edited August 18, 2014 by Publicus

[zydeco]

So the video explains why the cop shot Brown..?

It certain shows that he was a violent thug.

The policeman who shot Brown initially stopped him for walking in the street and blocking traffic but, the officer saw cigars in Browns hands and thought he might be a suspect in the robbery, which had been announced on the police radio a few minutes previously.

By the way, NONE of the shots were in Brown's back, although all his homies swore that he had been shot from behind. So much for their credibility.

Where's the record of Michael Brown the violent thug?

There isn't one, not to this moment.

Michael Brown did not commit armed robbery as he had no weapon nor did Brown threaten the life or safety of an armed, trained police officer who has 6 years experience on the force. If Brown had lifted a couple of handsfull of cheap cigars it would be a case of petty theft.

What violent thug?

I recall the initial rumors of Brown being shot in the back which no doubt began because a cop was chasing him and firing multiple shots at Brown's back side. After a few hours of chaos and confusion, the shooting was clarified, at least to the point it was clear Brown had not been shot in the back although the fact Brown was unarmed is the one constant throughout this awful event.

The short lived rumor of Brown's being shot in the back is long gone and was early disposed of so there's no need to try and dredge it up now.

As I'd said, there's a lot of wild speculation and fiction writing going on around here.

Let's stick to the non-fiction stuff which is bad enough.

Seeing your avatar in a thread is like seeing Uwe Boll's name appear at the beginning of a movie.

[SteveFong]

All the cop knows is a robbery just occurred,

All alleged felons are assumed to be armed,

cops get shot when they assume otherwise.

would this be the preferred scenario?

no,

this is tragic, but the robber gets the bullets this time

[danmarnj]

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Here is how I see it. The big problem is that there is a white or mostly white police force in a town that is majority black. If the town had a black police force, these cops would probably still kill or f-up that pos Michael Brown. There would be no riots and no need for the race-baiters Sharpton and Jackson.

I'd say a black police force or a force of significantly more black officers could and would do a better job in Ferguson than the present one has done.

Apparently the Missouri governor thinks the same as he's put the State Highway Patrol, which does criminal work and assists local police, on the ground in Ferguson, led by an able and respected commander of police.

How the Man in Charge of Ferguson Security Approaches Protesters

In the days since Missouri Highway Patrol Capt. Ron Johnson took charge of a volatile situation that threatened to turn ugly, tragic or both, his calm-yet-commanding presence has captured international attention.

But when it comes to keeping the peace in the St. Louis suburb where a white police officer shot and killed an unarmed black teen, Johnson knows his neighbors’ opinions are what matter most.

“The people of our community need to hear what I’m saying,” Johnson, who is black, said at the start of one daily press briefing, urging local residents standing behind an enormous media contingent to come closer to the podium. “They’ve got questions, and I invited them here.”

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/885192-the-man-in-charge-of-ferguson-security-tries-to-bridge-gap-between-police-protesters/?photo=2

The protestors in this photo are wearing red. That tells me, they belong to the Bloods street gang or at the very least affiliate with them. These people are nothing more than thugs and a menace to society.

Since when do gangbangers give their undivided and respectful attention to a police officer, a captain besides?

You are digging and it is obvious you are digging.

They look more like north country farmers than St Louis gangbangers.

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What I'm saying is that a black police force would not be using the "kid glove" approach that the white force needs to use. a black police force would have seen the thugs for what they are and would have went jihad on their asses. No need for Al Shitpten or Jesse Jackass.to show up

[Eliot Rosewater]

Police 100% justified

the kid had just committed a strong armed robbery and an assault on the shop keeper, making him a violent felon

The cops didnt know he was a suspect Edited August 18, 2014 by Eliot Rosewater

[Ulysses G.]

So the video explains why the cop shot Brown..?

It certain shows that he was a violent thug.

The policeman who shot Brown initially stopped him for walking in the street and blocking traffic but, the officer saw cigars in Browns hands and thought he might be a suspect in the robbery, which had been announced on the police radio a few minutes previously.

By the way, NONE of the shots were in Brown's back, although all his homies swore that he had been shot from behind. So much for their credibility.

Where's the record of Michael Brown the violent thug?

Video of Michael Brown committing a strong arm robbery. Evidence of violent thuggery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhA36

Edited August 18, 2014 by Ulysses G.

[Publicus]

Police 100% justified

the kid had just committed a strong armed robbery and an assault on the shop keeper, making him a violent felon

Clear and unmistakable fiction.

It's nowhere near the facts or the reality of the robbery, assault, a felony crime - nowhere near any of the three.

100% justified???

*Above all, this department values the safety of its employees and the public.

Likewise it believes that police officers should use firearms with a high degree of restraint. Officers' use of firearms, therefore, shall never be considered routine and is permissible only in defense of life and then only after all alternative means have been exhausted.

RULE 1: Police officers shall not discharge their firearms except to protect themselves or another person from imminent death or serious bodily injury.

RULE 2: Police officers shall discharge their firearms only when doing so will not endanger innocent persons.

RULE 3: Police officers shall not discharge their firearms to threaten or subdue persons whose actions are destructive to property or injurious to themselves but which do not represent an imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury to the officer or others.

RULE 4: Police officers shall not discharge their firearms to subdue an escaping suspect who presents no imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury.

RULE 5: Police officers shall not discharge their weapons at a moving vehicle unless it is absolutely necessary

RULE 6: Police officers when confronting an oncoming vehicle shall attempt to move out of the path, if possible,

RULE 7: Police officers shall not intentionally place themselves in the path of an oncoming vehicle

RULE 8: Police officers shall not discharge their firearms at a fleeing vehicle or its driver.

RULE 9: Police officers shall not fire warning shots.

RULE 10: Police officers shall not draw or display their firearms unless there is a threat or probable cause to believe there is a threat to life, or for inspection.

*Police Department Office of the Commissioner, City of Houston, Texas.

http://policecrimes.com/police_abuse2.html

http://policecrimes.com/police_abuse.html

Edited August 18, 2014 by Publicus

[PiPiFFS]

There's a lot of creative writing going on now at this thread. The previous page is especially infiltrated by erratic speculation taken in bits from the autopsy reports.

The thread has now become a work of fiction in which is presented the absurd claim that Brown was unable to lift his wounded arm above his shoulder to put his hands in the air to surrender.

Brown had his arms and hands in the air before the cop filled his arm with bullets while also shooting Brown in the face and head.

A cop shooting at a citizen's head can and may well hit an arm or two up beside it as well.

A cop shooting an unarmed citizen in the head while the unarmed citizen has his hands raised to surrender is OTT.

Michael Brown's large body presented more than enough of a disabling target for any police officer to shoot to hit. Why was the police officer aiming at and hitting Brown's face, Brown's head?

Why was the police officer using his weapon at all against an unarmed man with his hands in the air to surrender? Hitting Brown with 6 bullets. Six.

The claim Brown had turned to menacingly stare down the barrel of a cop's gun while approaching the cop as a grisly bear is bullsh*t.

Dorian Johnson has told reporters that the officer ordered the pair [he and Brown] to move onto the sidewalk, then grabbed his friend's neck and tried to pull him into the car before brandishing his weapon and firing. He said Brown started to run and the officer pursued him, firing multiple times.

Read more: http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/08/ferguson-police-shooter-s-name-revealed-106115.html#ixzz3AjP2Iysp

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Brown's uncle, Bernard Ewing, said the shooting was unnecessary, even if his nephew was a robbery suspect.

A robbery "still doesn't justify shooting him when he puts his hands up," he added. "You still don't shoot him in the face."

Read more: http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/08/ferguson-police-shooter-s-name-revealed-106115.html#ixzz3AjUsAXSC

So your interpretation of events is the correct one and all others are wrong ? You still have this gentle giant executed on his knees by the bad white man. What happened to the eye witness account from his robbery accomplice that told the world the bad white man first shot the gentle giant in the back before executing him as he begged for mercy on his knees with his hands up.

Granted the guy didn't deserve to die like he did but to try to make out this thug is some type of innocent victim shot because he was black is all wrong.

[Publicus]

There's a lot of creative writing going on now at this thread. The previous page is especially infiltrated by erratic speculation taken in bits from the autopsy reports.

The thread has now become a work of fiction in which is presented the absurd claim that Brown was unable to lift his wounded arm above his shoulder to put his hands in the air to surrender.

Brown had his arms and hands in the air before the cop filled his arm with bullets while also shooting Brown in the face and head.

A cop shooting at a citizen's head can and may well hit an arm or two up beside it as well.

A cop shooting an unarmed citizen in the head while the unarmed citizen has his hands raised to surrender is OTT.

Michael Brown's large body presented more than enough of a disabling target for any police officer to shoot to hit. Why was the police officer aiming at and hitting Brown's face, Brown's head?

Why was the police officer using his weapon at all against an unarmed man with his hands in the air to surrender? Hitting Brown with 6 bullets. Six.

The claim Brown had turned to menacingly stare down the barrel of a cop's gun while approaching the cop as a grisly bear is bullsh*t.

Dorian Johnson has told reporters that the officer ordered the pair [he and Brown] to move onto the sidewalk, then grabbed his friend's neck and tried to pull him into the car before brandishing his weapon and firing. He said Brown started to run and the officer pursued him, firing multiple times.

Read more: http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/08/ferguson-police-shooter-s-name-revealed-106115.html#ixzz3AjP2Iysp

Follow us: @ABC7News on Twitter | WJLATV on Facebook

Brown's uncle, Bernard Ewing, said the shooting was unnecessary, even if his nephew was a robbery suspect.

A robbery "still doesn't justify shooting him when he puts his hands up," he added. "You still don't shoot him in the face."

Read more: http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/08/ferguson-police-shooter-s-name-revealed-106115.html#ixzz3AjUsAXSC

So your interpretation of events is the correct one and all others are wrong ? You still have this gentle giant executed on his knees by the bad white man. What happened to the eye witness account from his robbery accomplice that told the world the bad white man first shot the gentle giant in the back before executing him as he begged for mercy on his knees with his hands up.

Granted the guy didn't deserve to die like he did but to try to make out this thug is some type of innocent victim shot because he was black is all wrong.

My posture is that the rules above are for all cops in their daily dealings with all citizens and nationals all of the time in all circumstances.

We've been down the shot in the back rumor before and it's been clarified more than once - the cop was chasing Brown down the street blasting away at Brown's back side. In all the chaos commotion and distractions it could be easy for someone or for anyone to believe Brown had been shot in the back. That had been cleared up long ago but because your case is weak some of you guys have to keep dredging it up along with other feeble aspects of it.

The rules I quote are literally for the Houston, Texas police department but their spirit, intent, purpose are universal or should be, need to be.

Police Officer Wilson the trigger happy on the run executioner is going down and he's going down deep and he's going down hard, never again to see the light of day. That won't solve or end anything but it will be and serve justice and it will constitute a needed precedent.

Edited August 18, 2014 by Publicus

[wooloomooloo]

Police Officer Wilson the trigger happy on the run executioner is going down and he's going down deep and he's going down hard, never again to see the light of day. That won't solve or end anything but it will be and serve justice and it will constitute a needed precedent.

You don't know that anymore than you know what went on during the incident.

[Publicus]

Police Officer Wilson the trigger happy on the run executioner is going down and he's going down deep and he's going down hard, never again to see the light of day. That won't solve or end anything but it will be and serve justice and it will constitute a needed precedent.

You don't know that anymore than you know what went on during the incident.

At least you are not trying to propagate the slander Michael Brown was some kind of "violent thug."

Brown got pushy and overbearing against a shopkeeper but was unarmed and just not dangerous.

The video shows if anything that Brown was pushy but not what I would call a "violent thug" in any meaning of the term whether connotative or denotative.

Brown was unarmed, hasn't any police record I'm aware of that indicates, suggests, or says conclusively, he was a "violent thug."

There's no rational basis on which to make the claim.

[SteveFong]

MORE FACTS:

1) the kid had a string of prior felony arrests

2) the kid was also a felon as a teen

3) the kid was clearly going to prison for a long time the next time he was arrested

4) the police officer probably had no idea why the kid was trying to kill him

5) the police officer fired several times in an attempt to effect the arrest without further resistance

6) all shots were facing the front

7) the cop feared for his life

8) this case will close fast

9) many people will die in the ensuing riots unless

10) black leaders emerge fast to stop the carnage

11) the community will pay dearly for this

12) the police will be 100% further distrusted and hated

13) snipers will start vengeance

14) the entire area will be road blocked, check points will go up,

15) non residents will be turned away

16) a shoot to kill order will be issued

I was caught in the Miami riots in 1980,

this is nothing, to date

Miami burned for weeks

[H1w4yR1da]

Police Officer Wilson the trigger happy on the run executioner is going down and he's going down deep and he's going down hard, never again to see the light of day. That won't solve or end anything but it will be and serve justice and it will constitute a needed precedent.

You don't know that anymore than you know what went on during the incident.

At least you are not trying to propagate the slander Michael Brown was some kind of "violent thug."

Brown got pushy and overbearing against a shopkeeper but was unarmed and just not dangerous.

The video shows if anything that Brown was pushy but not what I would call a "violent thug" in any meaning of the term whether connotative or denotative.

Brown was unarmed, hasn't any police record I'm aware of that indicates, suggests, or says conclusively, he was a "violent thug."

There's no rational basis on which to make the claim.

Looks like you didn't watch the same video as I did.

Your apologist crap is really starting to grate.

The guy is the standard to which violent black gang - bangers are held. And misguided liberals like yourself will defend them to the end.

You keep harping on about the fact that he was 'unarmed'. At 300 lbs, he didn't need to be.

[SteveFong]

Police Officer Wilson the trigger happy on the run executioner is going down and he's going down deep and he's going down hard, never again to see the light of day. That won't solve or end anything but it will be and serve justice and it will constitute a needed precedent.

You don't know that anymore than you know what went on during the incident.

At least you are not trying to propagate the slander Michael Brown was some kind of "violent thug."

Brown got pushy and overbearing against a shopkeeper but was unarmed and just not dangerous.

The video shows if anything that Brown was pushy but not what I would call a "violent thug" in any meaning of the term whether connotative or denotative.

Brown was unarmed, hasn't any police record I'm aware of that indicates, suggests, or says conclusively, he was a "violent thug."

There's no rational basis on which to make the claim.

Looks like you didn't watch the same video as I did.

Your apologist crap is really starting to grate.

The guy is the standard to which violent black gang - bangers are held. And misguided liberals like yourself will defend them to the end.

You keep harping on about the fact that he was 'unarmed'. At 300 lbs, he didn't need to be.

They are all liberal, until one rapes their daughter

[SteveFong]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6a9ZuogWvc

[thaibeachlovers]

Now that it has been revealed that Michael Brown was a violent thug, these rioters are just hurting their own cause. They will get little sympathy from most of the public and the criminal acts just make black people look bad.

A typical statement from "hang 'em high" brigade who cannot see beyond their own prejudices.

As yet, there is no suggestion that Brown was committing a crime at the time of his killing.

Wrong again. The police officer says that Brown attacked him, tried to take his gun and then tried to run away - escape. All three of these crimes are felonies. The officer had the facial injury treated at the hospital. He won a commendation for 'extraordinary effort in the line of duty' just a few months ago. The fact that Michael Brown had robbed a store an hour before allegedly attacking an officer, makes the police story all the more credible.

The account of Brown's friend Dorian Johnson who was walking with Brown when the cop stopped them is radically different, so absolute pronouncements in this shooting death are premature.

Johnson said the police officer grabbed Brown by the neck, which initiated a scuffle. Johnson said the cop tried to get control of Brown by placing him in the police car. That the cop in the process took his firearm out of its holster to brandish it. The cop fired off a shot at no one or nothing in particular. Brown wrestled away from the cop, who apparently never had physical control of Brown, to run. The cop started blasting away with his handgun. The cop pursued Brown, firing at the running Brown.

When are the investigators and police going to arrest Dorian Johnson for making a false report in the case of a shooting death?

The Ferguson police haven't arrested Dorian Johnson, nor are they going to arrest him.

This case is far from clear or settled.

<The cop pursued Brown, firing at the running Brown.>

Unless Brown was running backwards, Johnson was clearly lying. The autopsy has stated that there were at least 6 entry points on the FRONT of Brown.

Unfortunately, as Johnson probably wasn't under oath he can't be charged with perjury.

[thaibeachlovers]

So the video explains why the cop shot Brown..?

It certain shows that he was a violent thug.

The policeman who shot Brown initially stopped him for walking in the street and blocking traffic but, the officer saw cigars in Browns hands and thought he might be a suspect in the robbery, which had been announced on the police radio a few minutes previously.

By the way, NONE of the shots were in Brown's back, although all his homies swore that he had been shot from behind. So much for their credibility.

Where's the record of Michael Brown the violent thug?

There isn't one, not to this moment.

Michael Brown did not commit armed robbery as he had no weapon nor did Brown threaten the life or safety of an armed, trained police officer who has 6 years experience on the force. If Brown had lifted a couple of handsfull of cheap cigars it would be a case of petty theft.

What violent thug?

I recall the initial rumors of Brown being shot in the back which no doubt began because a cop was chasing him and firing multiple shots at Brown's back side. After a few hours of chaos and confusion, the shooting was clarified, at least to the point it was clear Brown had not been shot in the back although the fact Brown was unarmed is the one constant throughout this awful event.

The short lived rumor of Brown's being shot in the back is long gone and was early disposed of so there's no need to try and dredge it up now.

As I'd said, there's a lot of wild speculation and fiction writing going on around here.

Let's stick to the non-fiction stuff which is bad enough.

< nor did Brown threaten the life or safety of an armed, trained police officer who has 6 years experience on the force.>

So you were there then?

< because a cop was chasing him and firing multiple shots at Brown's back side.>

So your theory is that the cop was firing wildly in the street and did not hit the man even once, not even a wound, then somehow the cop got in front of him and shot him in the front . Given that it would probably not be police procedure to fire wildly in the street with people about, why would a cop try to kill someone that was guilty only of theft?

[Publicus]

<The cop pursued Brown, firing at the running Brown.>

Unless Brown was running backwards, Johnson was clearly lying. The autopsy has stated that there were at least 6 entry points on the FRONT of Brown.

Unfortunately, as Johnson probably wasn't under oath he can't be charged with perjury.

I referred to if Johnson were making a false statement to the police in the investigation of a fatal shooting (which Johnson was not doing).

I did not make any reference to a sworn deposition or to a false statement in a court of law as this case remains a long way from taking depositions or entering a court of law. Perjury would apply to a sworn deposition or to sworn testimony in a court of law, not to a witness making or filing a statement during the investigative stages of the case.

The video of Brown being shot shows the unarmed Brown was on his knees facing the police officer running toward him while the officer was blasting away with his handgun, the officer's firearm. The autopsies show the unarmed Brown was shot from and in the front of him, not from the rear or back side, although the trigger happy on the run cop was blasting away shooting at Brown's back side as the unarmed Brown tried desperately to escape and before the unarmed Brown turned around to surrender to the cop.

You people have to stop writing fiction.

The following is not opinion, speculation, or claims of what did or could happen. It is official policy, fact, wise and prudent police procedure and practice which was not done in Furgeson or by the shooter Police Officer Wilson.

RULE 1: Police officers shall not discharge their firearms except to protect themselves or another person from imminent death or serious bodily injury.

RULE 3: Police officers shall not discharge their firearms to threaten or subdue persons whose actions are destructive to property or injurious to themselves but which do not represent an imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury to the officer or others.

RULE 4: Police officers shall not discharge their firearms to subdue an escaping suspect who presents no imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury.

RULE 10: Police officers shall not draw or display their firearms unless there is a threat or probable cause to believe there is a threat to life, or for inspection

Police Department Office of the Commissioner, City of Houston, Texas.

[zydeco]

<The cop pursued Brown, firing at the running Brown.>

Unless Brown was running backwards, Johnson was clearly lying. The autopsy has stated that there were at least 6 entry points on the FRONT of Brown.

Unfortunately, as Johnson probably wasn't under oath he can't be charged with perjury.

I referred to if Johnson were making a false statement to the police in the investigation of a fatal shooting (which Johnson was not doing).

I did not make any reference to a sworn deposition or to a false statement in a court of law as this case remains a long way from taking depositions or entering a court of law. Perjury would apply to a sworn deposition or to sworn testimony in a court of law, not to a witness making or filing a statement during the investigative stages of the case.

The video of Brown being shot shows the unarmed Brown was on his knees facing the police officer running toward him while the officer was blasting away with his handgun, the officer's firearm. The autopsies show the unarmed Brown was shot from and in the front of him, not from the rear or back side, although the trigger happy on the run cop was blasting away shooting at Brown's back side as the unarmed Brown tried desperately to escape and before the unarmed Brown turned around to surrender to the cop.

You people have to stop writing fiction.

The following is not opinion, speculation, or claims of what did or could happen. It is official policy, fact, wise and prudent police procedure and practice which was not done in Furgeson or by the shooter Police Officer Wilson.

RULE 1: Police officers shall not discharge their firearms except to protect themselves or another person from imminent death or serious bodily injury.

RULE 3: Police officers shall not discharge their firearms to threaten or subdue persons whose actions are destructive to property or injurious to themselves but which do not represent an imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury to the officer or others.

RULE 4: Police officers shall not discharge their firearms to subdue an escaping suspect who presents no imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury.

RULE 10: Police officers shall not draw or display their firearms unless there is a threat or probable cause to believe there is a threat to life, or for inspection

Police Department Office of the Commissioner, City of Houston, Texas.

So . . .

The video of Brown being shot shows the unarmed Brown was on his knees facing the police officer running toward him while the officer was blasting away with his handgun, the officer's firearm.

Please tell me where you have seen the video of the actual encounter? I would like to see it, too. So would everyone who has watched a news report for the past week or so. If you have this video, then please give it to the FBI, Ferguson PD, and CNN, because that will mean this case is over.

[Publicus]

MORE FACTS:

1) the kid had a string of prior felony arrests

2) the kid was also a felon as a teen

3) the kid was clearly going to prison for a long time the next time he was arrested

4) the police officer probably had no idea why the kid was trying to kill him

5) the police officer fired several times in an attempt to effect the arrest without further resistance

6) all shots were facing the front

7) the cop feared for his life

8) this case will close fast

9) many people will die in the ensuing riots unless

10) black leaders emerge fast to stop the carnage

11) the community will pay dearly for this

12) the police will be 100% further distrusted and hated

13) snipers will start vengeance

14) the entire area will be road blocked, check points will go up,

15) non residents will be turned away

16) a shoot to kill order will be issued

I was caught in the Miami riots in 1980,

this is nothing, to date

Miami burned for weeks

Pulp fiction.

Pulp fiction intermingled and intermangled with a few remote references to some loosely related incidents.

However, you do need to discuss in detail your wholly imaginary item number 4, as follows:

4) the police officer probably had no idea why the kid was trying to kill him

I'd certainly be interested to see your imagination at work in detail on this item.

The proper police firearms use standard requires the police officer use his piece only if there is an imminent threat to the officer's life. You have to prove Brown was trying to kill the police officer Darren Wilson and that your concocted threat to Wilson's life was imminent.

You can't prove either because your whole case makes you a weak and poor competitor of Agatha Christie.

[Bernard Flint]

If you asked any non yank, what would be the main areas for this kind of violence, i think most would guess right, irrelevant of any wrong doing to a black person.

[thailiketoo]

The video of Brown being shot shows the unarmed Brown was on his knees facing the police officer running toward him while the officer was blasting away with his handgun, the officer's firearm.

Please tell me where you have seen the video of the actual encounter? I would like to see it, too. So would everyone who has watched a news report for the past week or so. If you have this video, then please give it to the FBI, Ferguson PD, and CNN, because that will mean this case is over.

This is news to me. Is there a Video of Brown being shot?

[thaibeachlovers]

MORE FACTS:

1) the kid had a string of prior felony arrests

2) the kid was also a felon as a teen

3) the kid was clearly going to prison for a long time the next time he was arrested

4) the police officer probably had no idea why the kid was trying to kill him

5) the police officer fired several times in an attempt to effect the arrest without further resistance

6) all shots were facing the front

7) the cop feared for his life

8) this case will close fast

9) many people will die in the ensuing riots unless

10) black leaders emerge fast to stop the carnage

11) the community will pay dearly for this

12) the police will be 100% further distrusted and hated

13) snipers will start vengeance

14) the entire area will be road blocked, check points will go up,

15) non residents will be turned away

16) a shoot to kill order will be issued

I was caught in the Miami riots in 1980,

this is nothing, to date

Miami burned for weeks

Pulp fiction.

Pulp fiction intermingled and intermangled with a few remote references to some loosely related incidents.

However, you do need to discuss in detail your wholly imaginary item number 4, as follows:

4) the police officer probably had no idea why the kid was trying to kill him

I'd certainly be interested to see your imagination at work in detail on this item.

The proper police firearms use standard requires the police officer use his piece only if there is an imminent threat to the officer's life. You have to prove Brown was trying to kill the police officer Darren Wilson and that your concocted threat to Wilson's life was imminent.

You can't prove either because your whole case makes you a weak and poor competitor of Agatha Christie.

As yet you have no evidence that Brown was not trying to attack the cop.

Why don't we wait till the enquiry is over and the FACTS come out.

What we do know though is that 50 FBI agents have been sent. Given that the FBI won't even investigate many crimes ( eg the IRS scandal, the guns to Mexico scandal ), one has to wonder why.

[zydeco]

The video of Brown being shot shows the unarmed Brown was on his knees facing the police officer running toward him while the officer was blasting away with his handgun, the officer's firearm.

Please tell me where you have seen the video of the actual encounter? I would like to see it, too. So would everyone who has watched a news report for the past week or so. If you have this video, then please give it to the FBI, Ferguson PD, and CNN, because that will mean this case is over.

This is news to me. Is there a Video of Brown being shot?

That seems to be what Publicus is saying. But consider the source--Publicus.

[Publicus]

Looks like you didn't watch the same video as I did.

Your apologist crap is really starting to grate.

The guy is the standard to which violent black gang - bangers are held. And misguided liberals like yourself will defend them to the end.

You keep harping on about the fact that he was 'unarmed'. At 300 lbs, he didn't need to be.

They are all liberal, until one rapes their daughter

You guys are full of old 1960s clichés.

And 1970s ones.

1980s clichés too.

To include 1990s banalities.

Carrying on into the 21st century besides.

You should try instead to keep up with reality.

FACT: Office Wilson will be arrested and charged.

The huge majority of protesters are peaceful. I hate looters as much as the next guy.

[chuckd]

<The cop pursued Brown, firing at the running Brown.>

Unless Brown was running backwards, Johnson was clearly lying. The autopsy has stated that there were at least 6 entry points on the FRONT of Brown.

Unfortunately, as Johnson probably wasn't under oath he can't be charged with perjury.

I referred to if Johnson were making a false statement to the police in the investigation of a fatal shooting (which Johnson was not doing).

I did not make any reference to a sworn deposition or to a false statement in a court of law as this case remains a long way from taking depositions or entering a court of law. Perjury would apply to a sworn deposition or to sworn testimony in a court of law, not to a witness making or filing a statement during the investigative stages of the case.

The video of Brown being shot shows the unarmed Brown was on his knees facing the police officer running toward him while the officer was blasting away with his handgun, the officer's firearm. The autopsies show the unarmed Brown was shot from and in the front of him, not from the rear or back side, although the trigger happy on the run cop was blasting away shooting at Brown's back side as the unarmed Brown tried desperately to escape and before the unarmed Brown turned around to surrender to the cop.

You people have to stop writing fiction.

The following is not opinion, speculation, or claims of what did or could happen. It is official policy, fact, wise and prudent police procedure and practice which was not done in Furgeson or by the shooter Police Officer Wilson.

RULE 1: Police officers shall not discharge their firearms except to protect themselves or another person from imminent death or serious bodily injury.

RULE 3: Police officers shall not discharge their firearms to threaten or subdue persons whose actions are destructive to property or injurious to themselves but which do not represent an imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury to the officer or others.

RULE 4: Police officers shall not discharge their firearms to subdue an escaping suspect who presents no imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury.

RULE 10: Police officers shall not draw or display their firearms unless there is a threat or probable cause to believe there is a threat to life, or for inspection

Police Department Office of the Commissioner, City of Houston, Texas.

So . . .

The video of Brown being shot shows the unarmed Brown was on his knees facing the police officer running toward him while the officer was blasting away with his handgun, the officer's firearm.

Please tell me where you have seen the video of the actual encounter? I would like to see it, too. So would everyone who has watched a news report for the past week or so. If you have this video, then please give it to the FBI, Ferguson PD, and CNN, because that will mean this case is over.

zydeco:

He doesn't know any more about this incident than the rest of us.

He just thinks he does