Leung Falang Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Evening, weekends are spent preparing for graduation ceremonies. Today is "teacher day" so all day spent bowing. Events seem to be more important than learning from kindergarden through university. Tired students.....so wasteful 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post claffey Posted September 11, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 11, 2014 Life is fun here in Thailand.Enjoy it and don't even attempt to understand it!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacoGuy Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Do you mean as opposed to constantly drinking your face off and then spending a day or two hungover in recovery as we do in Farangland? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubby johnson Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I teach at the university in your photo, and they forgot to inform the foreign teachers that classes were cancelled. I waited for an hour before leaving. Not that I really mind, getting paid to do nothing, but these endless speeches and military-style parades (and their silly uniforms) are turning our students into obedient and brainwashed drones stripped of their individuality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard10365 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I doubt that immigration would stop you guys if you wanted to leave the country. If you guys are not happy, it doesn't make sense to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubby johnson Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I doubt that immigration would stop you guys if you wanted to leave the country. If you guys are not happy, it doesn't make sense to stay. So your first instinct is to cut and run when confronted by a challenge. Some teachers might disapprove. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtjforyou Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 This is why they end so smart... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leung Falang Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 I doubt that immigration would stop you guys if you wanted to leave the country. If you guys are not happy, it doesn't make sense to stay. So your first instinct is to cut and run when confronted by a challenge. Some teachers might disapprove. There is a lot of reporting in the media about education, and many of us on this forum spend time with students, or have students in school or universities, and would certainly love to see improvement in methods in order to see improvement in the outcomes. I have a hard time understanding why our interest in education and disappointment of same would be a catalyst for anyone to suggest we are unhappy with Thailand and should consider leaving. I though Kasetsart was a really good university in Bangkok, and assumed its daughter upcountry would be similar. I don't know if I am wrong on one count or two. We spent 3 months in the USA friending four KU Bangkok students, helping them out in a remote resort while they were on a state department work/travel program, and ended with a week long tour of our state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard10365 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 There is constructive criticism and there is a whiny banter that gets quite old as it is repeated over and over again in these forums. There is no surprise as to the environment you CHOOSE to work in before you start working. Don't apply for a job then complain about it after you get it and act like things are not what you thought they would be. Then come on to a public forum and complain about how you suffer the indignity of the cultural exposure that you're not use to. There is nothing I hate more than to see a teacher stand up in front of students and complain about the system they have been entrusted to perpetuate. Even worse when they come from another country than the one they are teaching in and complain in front of students. Can you imagine how this would play out in a western country if an Asian teacher were to complain publicly about the system in front of students? Do not think for an instance there are no students or their parents in this forum. There were 16,000+ international students studying in universities across Thailand in 2012. Along side those international students were 155,000+ Thai students also studying in these same programs. On top of these numbers are a multitude of students, international and Thai, studying in K-12 international schools. Do you think they don't read this forum? There are more than 180,000 members of this forum and in the last 60 minutes there were 6,000+ members on line. Of course they read this forum and see how you complain about being their teacher. As a student in an international program I'm asking you to stop complaining publicly if it upsets you. You're not helping. If you want to share ideas about how to improve something please be professional and tactful about it and not sound like a backpacker teacher on a summer internship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubby johnson Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 There is constructive criticism and there is a whiny banter that gets quite old as it is repeated over and over again in these forums. There is no surprise as to the environment you CHOOSE to work in before you start working. Don't apply for a job then complain about it after you get it and act like things are not what you thought they would be. Then come on to a public forum and complain about how you suffer the indignity of the cultural exposure that you're not use to. There is nothing I hate more than to see a teacher stand up in front of students and complain about the system they have been entrusted to perpetuate. Even worse when they come from another country than the one they are teaching in and complain in front of students. Can you imagine how this would play out in a western country if an Asian teacher were to complain publicly about the system in front of students? Do not think for an instance there are no students or their parents in this forum. There were 16,000+ international students studying in universities across Thailand in 2012. Along side those international students were 155,000+ Thai students also studying in these same programs. On top of these numbers are a multitude of students, international and Thai, studying in K-12 international schools. Do you think they don't read this forum? There are more than 180,000 members of this forum and in the last 60 minutes there were 6,000+ members on line. Of course they read this forum and see how you complain about being their teacher. As a student in an international program I'm asking you to stop complaining publicly if it upsets you. You're not helping. If you want to share ideas about how to improve something please be professional and tactful about it and not sound like a backpacker teacher on a summer internship. Now that was a verbose whinge! Grade: B- Must try harder. Less repetition, more concision and clarity, less negativity, stronger arguments based on reality. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussieroaming Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 The only time wasted is the time spent doing nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aree Wongwanlee Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Let's look at another possibility. How would life be like if going to school means homework, homework and more homework from grim teachers backed up by grimmer-looking headmasters supported by the grimmest-looking parents? How would life be like if going to school mean study, study and more study? Yes, at times, it seems that school in Thailand is just one long series of holidays connecting one event to event which seems to have nothing to do with studying. But, hey, the kids are having the time of their lives. When they get out there into the real world, they will look back to their schooldays with fond memories. Which is the way it should be, no? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baa_Mango Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Try to skip time wasting ceremonies and create your own fun and useful activities and adventures. I noticed I could get 4/4 GPA quite easily, but really learned things when I tried to elevate my self and friends to new and challenging things, whether in the school, around the school, or just in Bangkok or Thailand in general. Many many opportunities exist but probably are not waiting for you at the ol' wai kru ceremony or grad rehearsal #4 ( Skipped all my grad stuff totally. (Rent a gown and have a photo shoot with your real friends, much more rewarding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooked Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 There is constructive criticism and there is a whiny banter that gets quite old as it is repeated over and over again in these forums. There is no surprise as to the environment you CHOOSE to work in before you start working. Don't apply for a job then complain about it after you get it and act like things are not what you thought they would be. Then come on to a public forum and complain about how you suffer the indignity of the cultural exposure that you're not use to. There is nothing I hate more than to see a teacher stand up in front of students and complain about the system they have been entrusted to perpetuate. Even worse when they come from another country than the one they are teaching in and complain in front of students. Can you imagine how this would play out in a western country if an Asian teacher were to complain publicly about the system in front of students? Do not think for an instance there are no students or their parents in this forum. There were 16,000+ international students studying in universities across Thailand in 2012. Along side those international students were 155,000+ Thai students also studying in these same programs. On top of these numbers are a multitude of students, international and Thai, studying in K-12 international schools. Do you think they don't read this forum? There are more than 180,000 members of this forum and in the last 60 minutes there were 6,000+ members on line. Of course they read this forum and see how you complain about being their teacher. As a student in an international program I'm asking you to stop complaining publicly if it upsets you. You're not helping. If you want to share ideas about how to improve something please be professional and tactful about it and not sound like a backpacker teacher on a summer internship. Now that was a verbose whinge! Grade: B- Must try harder. Less repetition, more concision and clarity, less negativity, stronger arguments based on reality. Yes it will soon be against the law to criticise anything in Thailand if recent remarks by the prime minister are anything to go by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurnell Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 I doubt that immigration would stop you guys if you wanted to leave the country. If you guys are not happy, it doesn't make sense to stay. How many nanoseconds this that chestnut take you to think up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 The graduation ceremonies which some want to criticise are an essential part of the education system. In many cases, the parents of the graduating students have spent a fortune paying for their child's education and the day itself is one of pride for the whole family. The form the ceremony takes varies a little from country to country but they are all quite similar. Staff who have taught graduating students should also participate if invited. The students like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konying Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 (edited) Do you mean as opposed to constantly drinking your face off and then spending a day or two hungover in recovery as we do in Farangland? And yet In farangland uni graduate can count 11+7 without a calculator , funny that huh ?! Edited November 2, 2014 by konying 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Somtam Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Let's look at another possibility. How would life be like if going to school means homework, homework and more homework from grim teachers backed up by grimmer-looking headmasters supported by the grimmest-looking parents? How would life be like if going to school mean study, study and more study? Yes, at times, it seems that school in Thailand is just one long series of holidays connecting one event to event which seems to have nothing to do with studying. But, hey, the kids are having the time of their lives. When they get out there into the real world, they will look back to their schooldays with fond memories. Which is the way it should be, no? Little black/white nah? How about 95% study (if the subjects make sense this can also be fun or rewarding to do) and 5% events. My school (im Dutch) had one sports day and a couple of excursions per year. More than enough for me. Most days we finished at about 2-3 pm, an hour of homework and saturday and sunday off. My thai nephew goes to school from early in the morning till about 5 pm or so and a lot of saturdays too! Looking at most of his books and homework I wonder what they do there..... Tit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Sometimes, just being around the scent of education is enough for certain types of students...all nationalities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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