Koh Tao murder probe 85% complete: Panya

[Ve37]

85% complete which is 'unclassified' and 15% that is 'classified'.

So that means the investigation is now 100% complete at the above ratio.

So who was it?.... The Chuckle Brothers?????

Yes, it does sound like it and that "when overall progress can be revealed, arrests can be made".

However, "Everybody who was in a 600-metre radius of the murder scene between 2am and 4am on September 15 is a suspect" that statement just makes it confusing then, unless everyone 600 meters from the murder has somewhat been involved, not saying they have been a part of the actual killing, but at least as witness to something related.

I can see how a building project can be 85% complete,...but a murder? When is a murder case 85% compete,...except in hindsight after it is complete?

[paddyjenkins]

Can't wait to see what percentage we are at tomorrow.

Until now has been 100%, then down to 50% and now up to 85%... The saga continues... Could we be back at 100% tomorrow, with still no arrests?

It could be up to 300% tomorrow, but back to just 70% by Monday.

[culicine]

85% complete which is 'unclassified' and 15% that is 'classified'.

So that means the investigation is now 100% complete at the above ratio.

So who was it?.... The Chuckle Brothers?????

Yes, it does sound like it and that "when overall progress can be revealed, arrests can be made".

However, "Everybody who was in a 600-metre radius of the murder scene between 2am and 4am on September 15 is a suspect" that statement just makes it confusing then, unless everyone 600 meters from the murder has somewhat been involved, not saying they have been a part of the actual killing, but at least as witness to something related.

I can see how a building project can be 85% complete,...but a murder? When is a murder case 85% compete,...except in hindsight after it is complete?

They can only give a percentage if they know the end result.

[ToddinChonburi]

I thought the full moon parties were cancelled ? what the hell is going on ? only 15% percent left !!!! OH BOY I CAN NOT WAIT

[dcsw53]

Homicidal maniacs please book your travel accordingly.

[orosee]

Still hoping that the perps will surrender, I see.

[SOTIRIOS]

....such precision.....

[Strangebrew]

What he meant by that statement was we will report no murders here we will transfer bodies to other place so not have to lie more.

[SteveFong]

sad that this is going to go unsolved and soon forgotten,

this is the story of Johnny Rotten

they're letting it burn out, and to fade away,

my my, hey hey

[maco]

ok, this makes sense. they have had a lot of leads, many of them unexpected. they tried to get lucky at first, following their hunches and promising leads, and those failed. now it's time to back off, organize and put all the evidence together, and systematically see exactly what they've got. 15% of the evidence has not been analyzed.

it's how I typically approach difficult problems, and I doubt many other organizations would have approached that differently. furthermore, the Thai have usually had good luck with this approach.

while it is undoubtedly true that CSI murder investigations are not the strong suit of the Thai police, true that many if not most cops supplement their (meager) income with other "services", and true that big families are inordinately powerful in Thailand, as soon as DNA entered the picture scapegoating and cons went out of the picture - it become a black and white world.

except for the perpetrator (and his friends), everyone in Thailand wants the murder solved.

[dieseldave1951]

This article is pathetic. Yesterday the police claim its media tips and social networking that is hindering their investigation. Now they say its helped them.

They claim to be looking for people during 2-4am yet the coroner said no time of death could be made since they froze the bodies prior to the autopsy.

And how in the heck can someone make a vow that no one would be killed? Especially since the killer/s are still roaming free?

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face saving for the high season thats all it is !!!!!!

i just dont know where this shop is where you can get a allegedly "resposable" job and then come out saying stupid quoates like "there will be no one killed, aha i got it !its a Thai guarantee worth----------- sweet F A

[Ve37]

Still hoping that the perps will surrender, I see.

Not until Gen Prayuth finishes re-writing the Soaps

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/09/26/351771604/thai-leader-threatens-new-takeover-the-tv-soaps

[pb1936]

The way that the investigation works here is that, firstly they decide the required outcome, then work backwards to find a scenario which fits...... so the missing 15% is in deciding how to set someone up. !

[BMJ]

What the police are doing is just buying time as they have no idea who did it. They think that someone will come forward and that

There 85% belief!

[JacknDanny]

One thing concerns me about this case.

How come the Scottish guy Sean and the other friends of the deceased, who have already left the island, either not come out and made public announcements about what happened with the alleged confrontations in the bar. Why have none of the investigative journalists who were originally involved on the island, not sought these people out to get their side of the story?

Its as though they have been warned off by the British Embassy not to stick the fly in the ointment11

Surely somebody who was with the deceased before their untimely deaths, would have valuable info?

Why no newspaper interviews? Why has it all gone quiet from these journalists who were there and for sure know what the majority of people on this board suspect to be true.

Yet day after day more ridiculous and sublime statements are coming from the Police which are completely unchallenged.

[SteveFong]

each day that goes by, the man with the scratches and cuts on his hands and face, has time to heal

[stevepompey]

^{Having worked in police circles, the most fundamental thing they should have done (as a basic police action) was to shut the island down, swamped the area to ensure no one did leave .}

^{Comb the small island for witnesses and other key evidence. No one excluded.}

^{Their investigation simulates catching fish with a hole in your net. Then trying to find the fish who got through the hole!!}

^{This would have narrowed the investigation immensely and also reduced the need for testing to an absolute necessity. Race and age are irrelevant.}

^{What I have stated here does not require the latest equipment, just numbers of police which should not have been a problem. Two strategically placed boats would have done the trick. NO ONE ON THE WATER.}

^{An absolute disgrace ,}

[kkup]

Someone should organize a protest in Bangkok (if no one is charged), have all the tourists & expats turn up demanding justice for the families of the 2 victims. And an independent investigation. That should make the chief a little worried. I'm not organizing it though, I don't want to get deported.

[xerostar]

Everyone outside the a 600 meter radius between 2-4 AM is not a suspect ..

[morpho]

Enough already! Just stop making stupid media statements, and finish the investigation and arrest the pricks who did this…then crucify them

Edited September 27, 2014 by morpho

[khunpa]

ok, this makes sense. they have had a lot of leads, many of them unexpected. they tried to get lucky at first, following their hunches and promising leads, and those failed. now it's time to back off, organize and put all the evidence together, and systematically see exactly what they've got. 15% of the evidence has not been analyzed.

it's how I typically approach difficult problems, and I doubt many other organizations would have approached that differently. furthermore, the Thai have usually had good luck with this approach.

while it is undoubtedly true that CSI murder investigations are not the strong suit of the Thai police, true that many if not most cops supplement their (meager) income with other "services", and true that big families are inordinately powerful in Thailand, as soon as DNA entered the picture scapegoating and cons went out of the picture - it become a black and white world.

except for the perpetrator (and his friends), everyone in Thailand wants the murder solved.

I completely agree on this and also find it very strange why there has been no follow ups on the stories from the foreigners close to the victims. Why have they not come forward or been interviewed after they returned home? It sounds very very strange.

[IAMSOBAD]

How many Police Generals are contradicting each other every time a microphone is in their face? THEY ARE THE PROBLEM...not the media!

Everyone keep up the pressure or this will be ruled as a suicide by the KEYSTONE COPS.

So far THAIS have blamed the victims...bikinis...the press...Burmese workers...

the ghost of Christmas Past... spacemen... friends... the always popular scapegoat

social media... tourists...EVERYONE BUT THE KILLER/RAPISTS! Ask yourself WHY?

The answer is ...

Sooooooo Obvious!

Edited September 27, 2014 by IAMSOBAD

[ttthailand]

I have been here a long time and this case has got more attention than any I have seen in the past, and there has been toooooo many. I do not think this one is going away anytime soon unless they find the murders and those who raped this couple.

If Thailand wants to get back to business they need to solve this care ASAP.

[yougivemebaby]

"Everyone within in a 600 meter radius between 2-4 AM is a suspect, and it is 85% complete" says Panya. After all this time, it appears that this started out as a coverup and now it is a coverup of a coverup.

They also need more time to pin it on some poor sucker.

[masuk]

CCTV was released on the press showing an Asian guy running past the camera wearing the dead male's shorts.

Did anything come of this?

[slygeeza]

I completely agree on this and also find it very strange why there has been no follow ups on the stories from the foreigners close to the victims. Why have they not come forward or been interviewed after they returned home? It sounds very very strange.

I think it would be better they wait. The police have no doubt (hopefully) already interviewed them. No point giving the killers more info now. If the police get it wrong then that would be the time for them to come out and try and stir things up again in the media.

Edited September 27, 2014 by slygeeza

[yougivemebaby]

I wake up every day hoping to see some truth or sincerity in these reports. I think the sad reality has set in that this is Thailand and anyone with money can get away with anything. Just looks like the money has been passed to the upper levels instead of to the victims families.

Warn as many people as you can that this is the reality here and to stay away!

[boomerangutang]

What the police are doing is just buying time as they have no idea who did it. They think that someone will come forward and that There 85% belief!

I agree about 'buying time' but don't agree that 'they don't know who did it'. I think police (and half the island's residents) do know who did it, or at least have strong suspicions. Residents are too afraid to speak up, and police don't want to ruffle feathers of powerful people (their patrons). Actually, the continued reluctance of police to arrest anyone sounds increasingly like one or more cops are involved (not just member(s) of an influential family). That would explain them dragging their feet.

whats next? We know who did it , better turn your self in before we come get you ?

That sounds like something Chaleum used to announce to his mafia buddies, when he was top cop. Except Chaleum might coyly announce the mafia dons' first initials of their names. Chaleum would also surmise that: just embarrassing mafia bosses, would be punishment enough for their dastardly deeds. After all, if you were top cop, you wouldn't want to publicly implicate your favorite drinking buddies in criminal behavior, would you?

[IAMSOBAD]

CCTV was released on the press showing an Asian guy running past the camera wearing the dead male's shorts.

Did anything come of this?

He wore those clothes to run to papa and then run to BKK where he lied and said he was at school.

[boomerangutang]

CCTV was released on the press showing an Asian guy running past the camera wearing the dead male's shorts.

Did anything come of this?

He didn't have "I am the murderer" printed on the front of his t-shirt, along with his name, ID# and tel#. So it's not credible evidence.