Man says police beat him after he declines to be witness in Koh Tao murder cases

[iReason]

You see, they don't even give a sh.it about their own as long as they can use them to frame some poor, unsuspecting foreigner. Come on, PM, enough is enough, remove the 'police' from this island and bring in disciplined soldiers!!!

"... remove the 'police' from this island and bring in disciplined soldiers!!!"

Regardless of this case, the Police and the Military are engaged behind the scenes, in their own little gang warfare for the largest slice of the pie. And turf.

Same same as each other.

Do you really believe the Military are any different?

It's all an illusion...

Edited September 30, 2014 by iReason

[Bobobirdiebuddy]

They are going to lose this case. They haven't a clue. Poor kids, poor families.

[JoeLing]

He went to the kanman for protection???? Is this t he same on who offered 1Mio Baht as a reward for getting his family off?

and police offered only 700.000

He (the village headman) offered 1 million baht if someone can prove him or anyone is his family to be guilty, NOT innocent. People seem to have this all backwards.

So, if someone can prove that his son is guilty, in this case, he will pay 1 million baht. If someone proves his son is innocent, no money will change hands.

Nevertheless, offering the police 1 million baht to prove one is guilty seems very "thai", overconfident, and suspicious.....

Could it be possible that would be, let's say something around 700'000 baht?

Framing someone must sure cost a bit more than being a witness to innocence?

Anyone an Idea where to find that "Price Pist"?

[sweatalot]

anybody surprised?

[See the bears]

& some people here believe the black shirt facade.

[Pattaya28]

The murderers are known to the Police for sure.

The murderers will get away with it for sure.

Farcical !!

[phuketandsee]

"Anybody surprised?"

I'm surprised he's alive and talking

Edited September 30, 2014 by phuketandsee

[mancub]

This is an article about one unsubstantiated claim from a Thai taxi driver. I don't know about you but I don't have much trust in Thai taxi drivers.

And isn't the kanman the guy so many on here think is complicit with some conspiracy?

Why believe anything you are reading? You discard anything that does not fit your desired outcome and accept as gospel any rumor that does.

So why did the police decide to make him that offer out of all the possible candidates? Did he actually witness something? It sounds like he was not only asked to be a witness but an actual participant--why else would they need to offer him immunity from prosecution?

The answers to your questions are in the article as reported ( if any of it can be believed). It states that the offer was made to PRETEND to be a witness .Any immunity would presumably be against charges of perverting the course of justice, and being made a scapegoat if it all went wrong .

This taxi driver seems to have as much trust in his police force country-men, as you do in his chosen profession !

[Basil B]

Maybe one day a film based on the investigations by the Keystone Film Company?

And it will just another film banned in Thailand.

[ratcatcher]

They are going to lose this case. They haven't a clue. Poor kids, poor families.

To which case are you referring?

I disagree, it seems the police have a lot of clues, but somehow, don't know what to with them.

They need a solid suspect to have a case, and to my knowledge, they don't have one good suspect..

[khunpa]

What???? Thai police doing something like that???? Unbelievable!!!!

[changsinghleo]

One cannot praise this guy enough. Despite a tidy sum having been skimmed off the top of the reward money, he

had the decency to refuse the still large sum of money offered to him in disgraceful disrespect of the law and

all victims in this case. Now it might be right for him to be given safe passage out of the country and

sufficient funds to have a good life elsewhere. Surely the Thai government can do this in thanks for his

thoughtfulness.

[phuketandsee]

They are going to lose this case. They haven't a clue. Poor kids, poor families.

To which case are you referring?

I disagree, it seems the police have a lot of clues, but somehow, don't know what to with them.

They need a solid suspect to have a case, and to my knowledge, they don't have one good suspect..

I suspect he means they haven't a clue how to wrap this up.

[khunpa]

One cannot praise this guy enough. Despite a tidy sum having been skimmed off the top of the reward money, he

had the decency to refuse the still large sum of money offered to him in disgraceful disrespect of the law and

all victims in this case. Now it might be right for him to be given safe passage out of the country and

sufficient funds to have a good life elsewhere. Surely the Thai government can do this in thanks for his

thoughtfulness.

Doubt they will do that.

Face has been lost = The guy will properly commit suicide by stabbing himself 14 times, with his hands tied on his back.

[JoeLing]

One cannot praise this guy enough. Despite a tidy sum having been skimmed off the top of the reward money, he

had the decency to refuse the still large sum of money offered to him in disgraceful disrespect of the law and

all victims in this case. Now it might be right for him to be given safe passage out of the country and

sufficient funds to have a good life elsewhere. Surely the Thai government can do this in thanks for his

thoughtfulness.

[MESmith]

You see, they don't even give a sh.it about their own as long as they can use them to frame some poor, unsuspecting foreigner. Come on, PM, enough is enough, remove the 'police' from this island and bring in disciplined soldiers!!!

Thailand isn't an island

[ldnguy]

This is an article about one unsubstantiated claim from a Thai taxi driver. I don't know about you but I don't have much trust in Thai taxi drivers.

And isn't the kanman the guy so many on here think is complicit with some conspiracy?

Why believe anything you are reading? You discard anything that does not fit your desired outcome and accept as gospel any rumor that does.

So why did the police decide to make him that offer out of all the possible candidates? Did he actually witness something? It sounds like he was not only asked to be a witness but an actual participant--why else would they need to offer him immunity from prosecution?

That s very true. This guy could already have been paid by the guilty person to make up a story discrediting the police. Suppose you were the murderer and you knew the police were on to you. What better way to get out of it by paying someone to make up a story like this. You could then claim the police were trying to fit you up.

The problem with most on this forum is that they accuse the police of being incompetent but they can't think through a simple scenario themselves. Surely the police would be capable of finding a witness if they wanted to. Why pick someone that doesn't want to be a witness?

[ldnguy]

One cannot praise this guy enough. Despite a tidy sum having been skimmed off the top of the reward money, he

had the decency to refuse the still large sum of money offered to him in disgraceful disrespect of the law and

all victims in this case. Now it might be right for him to be given safe passage out of the country and

sufficient funds to have a good life elsewhere. Surely the Thai government can do this in thanks for his

thoughtfulness.

What makes you think he's telling the truth. The mafia could have forced him to make up the story. Maybe he had no choice because he owes them. But there is no mafia, so who knows. But why are you assuming it's true without any proof? Isn't some kind of proof needed before you find the police guilty? Or do you think we should have a legal system when one man's claim is enough for a guilty verdict?

[JoeLing]

What about [purely, utterly hypothetically]:

The police offered him to be a "false" witness for 500'000 THB
He runs to the "The Other Man" telling him the police offered him 700'000 THB
Some negotiations behind closed doors and now the media get's involved.
Sure that must have been worth more than the 700'000 THB.

Now let's see over the next few days/weeks, how the prices go up

[khunpa]

One cannot praise this guy enough. Despite a tidy sum having been skimmed off the top of the reward money, he

had the decency to refuse the still large sum of money offered to him in disgraceful disrespect of the law and

all victims in this case. Now it might be right for him to be given safe passage out of the country and

sufficient funds to have a good life elsewhere. Surely the Thai government can do this in thanks for his

thoughtfulness.

What makes you think he's telling the truth. The mafia could have forced him to make up the story. Maybe he had no choice because he owes them. But there is no mafia, so who knows. But why are you assuming it's true without any proof? Isn't some kind of proof needed before you find the police guilty? Or do you think we should have a legal system when one man's claim is enough for a guilty verdict?

Where is the proof that the police are actually doing their job in this case? So far they look like idiots, which makes the taxi drivers story seem true. Besides that, burmese suspects have also reported being beat up by the police. Its not like he is alone with this.

[Tazwa]

I wonder what they wanted him to say he witnessed? "I saw a ghost do it" - case closed.

[ldnguy]

One cannot praise this guy enough. Despite a tidy sum having been skimmed off the top of the reward money, he

had the decency to refuse the still large sum of money offered to him in disgraceful disrespect of the law and

all victims in this case. Now it might be right for him to be given safe passage out of the country and

sufficient funds to have a good life elsewhere. Surely the Thai government can do this in thanks for his

thoughtfulness.

What makes you think he's telling the truth. The mafia could have forced him to make up the story. Maybe he had no choice because he owes them. But there is no mafia, so who knows. But why are you assuming it's true without any proof? Isn't some kind of proof needed before you find the police guilty? Or do you think we should have a legal system when one man's claim is enough for a guilty verdict?

Where is the proof that the police are actually doing their job in this case? So far they look like idiots, which makes the taxi drivers story seem true. Besides that, burmese suspects have also reported being beat up by the police. Its not like he is alone with this.

I'm not involved so I don't know what's going on. I'm just pointing out that you need a little more proof that one man's word. Whether the police are doing a good job or not is irrelevant, One man made a claim and people on here believe it without any proof. The people on here believe what they want to believe. If they don't want to believe something, they claim there is no proof. But if they want to believe something, having no proof doesn't seem to matter to them.

So what better time for someone to convince people like you. They see hear of other people being beaten up so join in with a maybe false accusation. You need a lot more proof that you are willing to accept. I'm not saying the guy is lying, because I have no idea, but I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out he was saying the truth or that he was lying. Both are possible.

Edited September 30, 2014 by ldnguy

[Jeremy50]

He went to the kanman for protection???? Is this t he same on who offered 1Mio Baht as a reward for getting his family off?

and police offered only 700.000

He (the village headman) offered 1 million baht if someone can prove him or anyone is his family to be guilty, NOT innocent. People seem to have this all backwards.

So, if someone can prove that his son is guilty, in this case, he will pay 1 million baht. If someone proves his son is innocent, no money will change hands.

Nevertheless, offering the police 1 million baht to prove one is guilty seems very "thai", overconfident, and suspicious.....

So why did they refuse to submit to a DNA test? Maybe they were not aware that such a test existed at the time that they offered the money. It seems rather obvious that the rapists and the killers are the same people, and all fingers are pointing at the head-man's son and a couple of accomplices. They should all be made to submit to a test.

[mauGR1]

One cannot praise this guy enough. Despite a tidy sum having been skimmed off the top of the reward money, he

had the decency to refuse the still large sum of money offered to him in disgraceful disrespect of the law and

all victims in this case. Now it might be right for him to be given safe passage out of the country and

sufficient funds to have a good life elsewhere. Surely the Thai government can do this in thanks for his

thoughtfulness.

What makes you think he's telling the truth. The mafia could have forced him to make up the story. Maybe he had no choice because he owes them. But there is no mafia, so who knows. But why are you assuming it's true without any proof? Isn't some kind of proof needed before you find the police guilty? Or do you think we should have a legal system when one man's claim is enough for a guilty verdict?

Where is the proof that the police are actually doing their job in this case? So far they look like idiots, which makes the taxi drivers story seem true. Besides that, burmese suspects have also reported being beat up by the police. Its not like he is alone with this.

I'm not involved so I don't know what's going on. I'm just pointing out that you need a little more proof that one man's word. Whether the police are doing a good job or not is irrelevant, One man made a claim and people on here believe it without any proof. The people on here believe what they want to believe. If they don't want to believe something, they claim there is no proof. But if they want to believe something, having no proof doesn't seem to matter to them.

Fair enough.. But why a poor taxi driver should throw accusations to the police, with fat chance he could be jailed for that or worse ?

[smedly]

anyone currently connected to this case should be removed and a trusted external police investigation team (if there is such a thing in LOS) brought in under strict army supervision - this charade has gone on long enough

[Wilsonandson]

I wonder what they wanted him to say he witnessed? "I saw a ghost do it" - case closed.

No joke, two ghosts shall haunt that family for eternity

[bkksteve123]

He went to the kanman for protection???? Is this t he same on who offered 1Mio Baht as a reward for getting his family off?

and police offered only 700.000

He (the village headman) offered 1 million baht if someone can prove him or anyone is his family to be guilty, NOT innocent. People seem to have this all backwards.

So, if someone can prove that his son is guilty, in this case, he will pay 1 million baht. If someone proves his son is innocent, no money will change hands.

Nevertheless, offering the police 1 million baht to prove one is guilty seems very "thai", overconfident, and suspicious.....

Could it be possible that would be, let's say something around 700'000 baht?

Framing someone must sure cost a bit more than being a witness to innocence?

Anyone an Idea where to find that "Price Pist"?

Yes, it's possible, but it's also 100% pure speculation.

The only thing we know for a fact is what I already stated. Anyone can speculate as to what else has been offered and for what purpose, but there is no truth to it.

For all we know, the village headman and his family are innocent.

Point of my post was that people seem to have confused what the offered 1 million Thai Baht was for, would you not agree?

[Loptr]

This is an article about one unsubstantiated claim from a Thai taxi driver. I don't know about you but I don't have much trust in Thai taxi drivers.

And isn't the kanman the guy so many on here think is complicit with some conspiracy?

Why believe anything you are reading? You discard anything that does not fit your desired outcome and accept as gospel any rumor that does.

So why did the police decide to make him that offer out of all the possible candidates? Did he actually witness something? It sounds like he was not only asked to be a witness but an actual participant--why else would they need to offer him immunity from prosecution?

You overlook one thing, what motive does the taxi driver have to come forward with this story if it were not true?

[givenall]

If true, this proves the investigation is totally off the rails.

You mean is being fabricated, most likely to protect someone.

[smedly]

He went to the kanman for protection???? Is this t he same on who offered 1Mio Baht as a reward for getting his family off?

and police offered only 700.000

He (the village headman) offered 1 million baht if someone can prove him or anyone is his family to be guilty, NOT innocent. People seem to have this all backwards.

So, if someone can prove that his son is guilty, in this case, he will pay 1 million baht. If someone proves his son is innocent, no money will change hands.

Nevertheless, offering the police 1 million baht to prove one is guilty seems very "thai", overconfident, and suspicious.....

So why did they refuse to submit to a DNA test? Maybe they were not aware that such a test existed at the time that they offered the money. It seems rather obvious that the rapists and the killers are the same people, and all fingers are pointing at the head-man's son and a couple of accomplices. They should all be made to submit to a test.

Apparently the headmans brother had a DNA test done and found no match, the headmans son was apparently in Bangkok at the time of the murders and has an alibi - not sure if he was DNA tested or not, but after recent events could you even trust the DNA results