Australian PM seeks to block visas for 'hate preachers'

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Australian PM seeks to block visas for 'hate preachers'

(BBC) Australia's PM Tony Abbott has said he wants visa rules tightened so preachers of extremist ideologies will be refused entry into the country.

He said the proposed legal amendments would also make it a crime to "promote terrorism" in Australia and make it easier to ban extremist groups.

Australia has been on high alert for terrorist attacks and has conducted anti-terror raids in recent weeks.

It has joined a US-led coalition fighting Islamic State (IS) in Iraq.

Australia already has laws that allow it to refuse visas to people who have a substantial criminal record, who are "not of good character", or who are likely to "incite discord" or "represent a danger" to Australia.

Full story: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-29532000


-- BBC 2014-10-08

[JockPieandBeans]

Who would have thought ?

There are those that preach that there is no such thing in Australia.

Such nonsense does not sit with multiculturalism.

Get over yourself. It is real, it is happening.

[gchurch259]

Every country should be like Japan and sevely restrict Muslims even entering the country and no Mosque are allowed in Japan.

They won't even let me retire there, 79 years young USA has been.

[Drew rolf]

The Australian government under tony Abbott ,is not a functional or stable environment ,he emulates Obama in America ,if only we could create our own ideas for the people of Australia ,the people of australia have been lied to and betrayed by the current government ,Australia is under no threat from who ever

[weegee]

YES ! YES ! YES ! Australia is finding it's long lost balls..................Go for it, dont worry about the do gooders, there time is finally up....

Edited October 8, 2014 by weegee

[AlexRRR]

The Australian government under tony Abbott ,is not a functional or stable environment ,he emulates Obama in America ,if only we could create our own ideas for the people of Australia ,the people of australia have been lied to and betrayed by the current government ,Australia is under no threat from who ever

What a lot of dribble.....we should have left it to those labour clowns to govern and turn us into a banana republic then?

Its all war moungering, if you havent noticed the west led by the US of A are hell bent on prolonging and destabilizing the middle east and for what reasons i will leave you to guess.

[ezzra]

The Australian government under tony Abbott ,is not a functional or stable environment ,he emulates Obama in America ,if only we could create our own ideas for the people of Australia ,the people of australia have been lied to and betrayed by the current government ,Australia is under no threat from who ever

Man what a hog wash of a statement you have going there, virtually ever thing you have

stated is absolutely without a merit and pretty much an ignorant views,

Abbot emulate Obama? no threat to Australian from terrorism? where do you come up

with theses things? I could go on and show you how wrong your assumptions are, but what's

the point???

[Robby nz]

Australia already has laws that allow it to refuse visas to people who have a substantial criminal record, who are "not of good character", or who are likely to "incite discord" or "represent a danger" to Australia.

Times have certainly changed in OZ a country that was a penal colony for those with a substantial criminal record, who were "not of good character",

But I suppose that was a few years back now.

[kinmaew]

I had the same idea in the UK ten years ago but was told that I was "Racist" and these type of speeches are "Nothing more than free speech"

[konying]

The Australian government under tony Abbott ,is not a functional or stable environment ,he emulates Obama in America ,if only we could create our own ideas for the people of Australia ,the people of australia have been lied to and betrayed by the current government ,Australia is under no threat from who ever

Yes all those kids and adults recently arrested waving Isis flags are a figment of someone's imagination ?

[Trentham]

The Australian government under tony Abbott ,is not a functional or stable environment ,he emulates Obama in America ,if only we could create our own ideas for the people of Australia ,the people of australia have been lied to and betrayed by the current government ,Australia is under no threat from who ever

Yes all those kids and adults recently arrested waving Isis flags are a figment of someone's imagination ?

You listen to Abbott too much and have picked up his art of spin. "All of those" equals 2 kids and it has only been suggested that one of them had a flag. You read too much of the Murdoch press.

Tony Abbott is showing serious signs of being a fascist. He is already a liar and a breaker of election promises. His fear mongering is simply to shore up his extremely poor standing in the polls. He was a thug during his uni years, he is against women with only one in his cabinet, he would like to stop a woman's right to an abortion and I could continue but you won't bother reading this anyway.

Read this http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-07/saul-the-light-of-human-rights-is-fading-in-australia/5794640 and you might gain some truth to the situation

Abbott is the one who preaches hate but it is cleverly masked with spin and lies and racism.

And no - I am not a young left wing radical. I am a 71 year old bloke who has always voted for Abbotts's Liberal party but not again while he is the leader.

[Seastallion]

I agree with this. Hate preachers are nothing but inciters of hate and violence.

Of course, those that preach hate against Jews , Muslims, or any other group should be included, not just jihadists.

There's a few that preach hate against Muslims in this forum, and they should certainly be excluded from Australia.,

[Seastallion]

The Australian government under tony Abbott ,is not a functional or stable environment ,he emulates Obama in America ,if only we could create our own ideas for the people of Australia ,the people of australia have been lied to and betrayed by the current government ,Australia is under no threat from who ever

Yes all those kids and adults recently arrested waving Isis flags are a figment of someone's imagination ?

You listen to Abbott too much and have picked up his art of spin. "All of those" equals 2 kids and it has only been suggested that one of them had a flag. You read too much of the Murdoch press.

Tony Abbott is showing serious signs of being a fascist. He is already a liar and a breaker of election promises. His fear mongering is simply to shore up his extremely poor standing in the polls. He was a thug during his uni years, he is against women with only one in his cabinet, he would like to stop a woman's right to an abortion and I could continue but you won't bother reading this anyway.

Read this http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-07/saul-the-light-of-human-rights-is-fading-in-australia/5794640 and you might gain some truth to the situation

Abbott is the one who preaches hate but it is cleverly masked with spin and lies and racism.

And no - I am not a young left wing radical. I am a 71 year old bloke who has always voted for Abbotts's Liberal party but not again while he is the leader.

Bravo. Nice to see someone who can change his vote out of principle, not just vote out of principle.

[Wombat6]

The Australian government under tony Abbott ,is not a functional or stable environment ,he emulates Obama in America ,if only we could create our own ideas for the people of Australia ,the people of australia have been lied to and betrayed by the current government ,Australia is under no threat from who ever

Please give examples of the lies ??? Try telling the Police that were stabbed in Victoria by a radical muslim that there wasn't any threat. Do you think that thousands of illegal immigrants trying to enter the country don't pose a threat??

[AhFarangJa]

Too late, closing the stable door after the horse has bolted. England, Europe, Australia, all lost to politically correct organisations.

[weegee]

Australia already has laws that allow it to refuse visas to people who have a substantial criminal record, who are "not of good character", or who are likely to "incite discord" or "represent a danger" to Australia.

Times have certainly changed in OZ a country that was a penal colony for those with a substantial criminal record, who were "not of good character",

But I suppose that was a few years back now.

Thats correct....but over time it was turned around, and very different...But dont forget, which you havent, theres a side of Australians lurking in the background, you dont want to disturb...Us south of the equator blokes are a different ball game maybe?

We are now a country that makes our own decisions....and dont forget our neighbours either....Only when they beat us in Rugby.

Edited October 8, 2014 by weegee

[Seastallion]

Australia already has laws that allow it to refuse visas to people who have a substantial criminal record, who are "not of good character", or who are likely to "incite discord" or "represent a danger" to Australia.

Times have certainly changed in OZ a country that was a penal colony for those with a substantial criminal record, who were "not of good character",

But I suppose that was a few years back now.

Wrong. Not many convicts were criminals with "substantial" records. Most were petty crims...stealing a loaf of bread type people.

And don't forget, Robby NZ, convicts were sent to NZ too.

[ggt]

OMG...let us hope the powers to be in Thailand...do not decide to reject the visas of Thaivisa Forum posters...whose opinion is less than favorable when expressing their experiences in the Land of Lies...

[weegee]

OMG...let us hope the powers to be in Thailand...do not decide to reject the visas of Thaivisa Forum posters...whose opinion is less than favorable when expressing their experiences in the Land of Lies...

HUH!....this is a thread about Australia....no a mention about Thailand...You're reading the WORLD News

[louse1953]

Tony Baloney is showboating as usual,just showing how hairy chested he is.Oz already has laws to keep undesirables out.I remember a holocaust denier named Irving was banned decades ago.

[Benmart]

The Australian government under tony Abbott ,is not a functional or stable environment ,he emulates Obama in America ,if only we could create our own ideas for the people of Australia ,the people of australia have been lied to and betrayed by the current government ,Australia is under no threat from who ever

Seems that Nevile Chamberlain is talking from the grave. When the threat is on the door step, it may be too late. History is often lost to those who believe that distance is a good protector from those that would bring death and destruction based on ideology.

[Franko666]

The Australian government under tony Abbott ,is not a functional or stable environment ,he emulates Obama in America ,if only we could create our own ideas for the people of Australia ,the people of australia have been lied to and betrayed by the current government ,Australia is under no threat from who ever

What a load of rubbish, Obama is a left wing looser running their county into insolvable debt. This is what Labour did in Australia under Gillard and Rudd.

Maybe you should come out of your little country town and live in Lakemba for a while, see how that changes your attitude. I'm alright Jack doesnt cut it anymore.

[maco]

banning "hate preachers" - so much for Christian fundamentalists in America, or many Republican politicians, or, for that matter, many Fox News announcers.

we'll see (55555)

[Ulysses G.]

Pretty stupid comparison. This is about hate-mongers who insight people to kill each other, not people whose politics offend those of your ilk.

[louse1953]

The Australian government under tony Abbott ,is not a functional or stable environment ,he emulates Obama in America ,if only we could create our own ideas for the people of Australia ,the people of australia have been lied to and betrayed by the current government ,Australia is under no threat from who ever

Man what a hog wash of a statement you have going there, virtually ever thing you have

stated is absolutely without a merit and pretty much an ignorant views,

Abbot emulate Obama? no threat to Australian from terrorism? where do you come up

with theses things? I could go on and show you how wrong your assumptions are, but what's

the point???

The Mad Monk shouldn't be allowed into the same room as Obama.MM is the real danger to Oz.

[louse1953]

The Australian government under tony Abbott ,is not a functional or stable environment ,he emulates Obama in America ,if only we could create our own ideas for the people of Australia ,the people of australia have been lied to and betrayed by the current government ,Australia is under no threat from who ever

Please give examples of the lies ??? Try telling the Police that were stabbed in Victoria by a radical muslim that there wasn't any threat. Do you think that thousands of illegal immigrants trying to enter the country don't pose a threat??

The legal refugees that you mention do not pose a threat at all,it is disaffected Aust.youth that are a small problem.

[louse1953]

The Australian government under tony Abbott ,is not a functional or stable environment ,he emulates Obama in America ,if only we could create our own ideas for the people of Australia ,the people of australia have been lied to and betrayed by the current government ,Australia is under no threat from who ever

What a load of rubbish, Obama is a left wing looser running their county into insolvable debt. This is what Labour did in Australia under Gillard and Rudd.

Maybe you should come out of your little country town and live in Lakemba for a while, see how that changes your attitude. I'm alright Jack doesnt cut it anymore.

Obama is only fixing the mess neo con right wingers such as Bush,Cheney left US in.Gillard and Rudd stopped Aust going into recession,that the rest of the world is only coming out of now.Lakemba is a part of Aust. and equal to any other part of Aust.

[JockPieandBeans]

The Australian government under tony Abbott ,is not a functional or stable environment ,he emulates Obama in America ,if only we could create our own ideas for the people of Australia ,the people of australia have been lied to and betrayed by the current government ,Australia is under no threat from who ever

Please give examples of the lies ??? Try telling the Police that were stabbed in Victoria by a radical muslim that there wasn't any threat. Do you think that thousands of illegal immigrants trying to enter the country don't pose a threat??

The legal refugees that you mention do not pose a threat at all,it is disaffected Aust.youth that are a small problem.

Of course it is. The same that was said in the UK over 10 years ago.

Believe what you want. History repeats itself.

[tw25rw]

Pretty stupid comparison. This is about hate-mongers who insight people to kill each other, not people whose politics offend those of your ilk.

Looking from the outside in, I make him right..

[landslide]

I admire Abbott for having the guts to say "to heck" with the PC bull spittle. He is trying to do what is in the best interests of Australians by keeping these hate mongers out of the country. Obama would never have the guts to do that. It would enflame his liberal base.