why do posters tell other posters if they dont like something about Thailand they should just bog

[StreetCowboy]

Whilst we're all off-topic, I'm sure you'll be delighted to know that the first weekend of the European rugby league cup kicked off with resounding wins for Scotland over Wales, and Ireland over favourites, France.

Personally, I think people should keep comments like that to the relevant threads, but since this seems to be the thread for discussing Thai pronunciation, and presumably anything else off topic, I assume anything goes - and the OP has expressed more interest in league than in pronunciation, to the best of my recollection

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[bkkcanuck8]

I was pronouncing "krap" instead of "kap" which all Thais are using when they talk (at least at street level) and I said I guess I should change to pronunciation to "kap" and she told me I should stay with the correct pronunciation. Of course there are probably differences to pronunciation between common usage and formal usage, but being new to the language it would be dangerous to learn incorrect informal usage since you get judged on it and you won't be able to switch back and forth easily.

You teacher is incorrect,

R after many other consonants is not pronounced, jing jing (or would your teacher insist on Jring Jring).

Well the online thai2english native speaker must also be doing it wrong.

http://www.thai2english.com/dictionary/1279273.html

<having trouble finding the entry in the maas dictionary (too small and eyes are old )

Just because it is not pronounced after one consonant does not mean it is not suppose to be pronounced after all consonants.

As you should know Thailand is not all the same language or ethnicity.

The rules aren't completely accepted across the country and applied consistently.

Krap and Kap are about 50/50.

PS

Many transliterated pronunciations in many sources are at odds with each other.

You need to learn Thai with Thai script like all native Thai speakers.

I have to admit I am lazy recently in my learning since I am not using it for business right now.

My lack of ease at accepting what is "accepted" and what you should not (in a disciplined manner) actually comes from one friend in particular from Japan (in Thai terms - HiSo). The language that you might here at street level as "accepted" will peg you at a lower level within a hierarchical society (which pretty well all of asia is very hierarchical). If you are a retiree and you really only use the language at street-level within that society - there would be no worries to just adopting the middle level. In a class oriented society, language defines you just as much as anything. Once you become fluent in a language (something most foreigners will never acquire), you might allow yourself "to slum" around, but for someone learning it for business the recommendation is to be very strict in ones learning. If you learn Thai from the wrong people, it will be identifiable.

Yes, I am aware of the many ethnicities in Thai society. There are also biases within Thailand where some ethnicities for all intensive purposes get pegged lower in the hierarchy by default.

I would not be able to learn a language without the script since I am more visual in my learning (even with tones).

Edited October 19, 2014 by bkkcanuck8

[StreetCowboy]

I guess there's another answer for you, n210mp; because they're thick-skinned, and won't take a telling,

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