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Maybe wise to check the forum rules about "correcting English" before posting such comments.

It's not really a comment about "correcting English" (because who really cares as long as what is written can be comprehended), it is a comment pointing out the hypocrisy of the accusation of idiocy exposed by the grammatical errors in the aforementioned post.

So many here (TVF) have swallowed, hook, line and sinker, the Yellow mantra of Shinawatra corruption, criminality, incompetence and idiocy that there has developed an impressive positive feedback loop whereby any and all accusations that conform to the above are accepted as fact not because there is sufficient evidentiary support but because of the existing body of (mostly) unsubstantiated and exaggerated accusations that are treated as fact by the biased, bigoted and ignorant of those amongst us. Lies and untruths piled atop more lies and untruths to the point where any old third rate idiot feels that he/she can get away with slinging whatever false or unsubstantiated slurs they want at any Shinawatra unquestioned.

Yingluck, as Prime Minister, performed admirably in what can only be described as extremely trying circumstances.

Is she the most intelligent, honest and brilliant lady that has ever lived?

No, but she is much closer to this than the opposite extreme where so many fascist TVF idiots place her.

So all the idiots out there should take note, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones!

Says the guy who states as fact that the bombings and shootings against the PDRC were done by themselves. rolleyes.gif

The most likely explanation

Note the lack of blind, thoughtless certainty that only the ignorant brainwashed fanatics amongst us are capable of achieving.

The most likely culprits in the majority of the deaths that occurred during the recent anti-democratic street protests were factions of the anti-democratic movement itself.

Interesting development today that military grade weaponry has been discovered in the possession of former members of Sutheps militia.

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Wow, you really did get sucked in by the red machine propaganda didn't you?

Even Amsterdam would struggle to write this much tripe in one sitting.

And there it goes... Intellectual thoughts out the window. It's like hearing from a neo-nazi, when he tried to explain why mixed marriages shouldn't be allowed. Because he keeps citing the mantra "Because white blood should stay white".

No in-depth or coherent explanation to why he believes that just a lot of indoctrinated rumblings of a person who is so lost in time in space that he forgot what the real world looks like.

So I ask the question I asked 'Chairman of the board', what has the Democrats done for the poor red and yellow that makes them better than the Shinawatras?

A small note, after tireless debates, I hate having to repeat myself that I'm neither red nor yellow. Thank you.

You quote that you are not red but the red slime oozes off your body.

What have the democrats done? Actually I really am of no colour persuasion, I like most people in Thailand do not care who runs the country (blue, green, orange or pin would do just fine) providing the evil Shins are out of the picture.

The democrats, while in power, were able to prevent Thailand riches and resources ending up in Dubai.

Oh and congratulations on you use of Nazi in your post.

I presume you did understand the concept of Godwin's Law before stooping so low.

"the red slime oozes from your body" , "I'm of no color persuasion". Yeah, I think you contradicted yourself there.

Again you prove my point. So the wealth didn't end up in Dubai, so where did it go?

Welfare programs, education platforms, subsidies?

The money still ended up in the Shins pockets but they had to wait until Thaksin had his puppet sister in charge of the countries money.

You seem like a well uneducated person and as I do not have a lifetime to try to teach you to understand the even the easiest of concepts, I will pretend that you are correct and that you are not one of Thaksin's lap dogs.

This way I am offering you a way out of this argument that does not end with you looking like a total fool who blindly follows a tyrant without questioning his illegal and unethical actions.

Anyone for Marcos?

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It's not really a comment about "correcting English" (because who really cares as long as what is written can be comprehended), it is a comment pointing out the hypocrisy of the accusation of idiocy exposed by the grammatical errors in the aforementioned post.

So many here (TVF) have swallowed, hook, line and sinker, the Yellow mantra of Shinawatra corruption, criminality, incompetence and idiocy that there has developed an impressive positive feedback loop whereby any and all accusations that conform to the above are accepted as fact not because there is sufficient evidentiary support but because of the existing body of (mostly) unsubstantiated and exaggerated accusations that are treated as fact by the biased, bigoted and ignorant of those amongst us. Lies and untruths piled atop more lies and untruths to the point where any old third rate idiot feels that he/she can get away with slinging whatever false or unsubstantiated slurs they want at any Shinawatra unquestioned.

Yingluck, as Prime Minister, performed admirably in what can only be described as extremely trying circumstances.

Is she the most intelligent, honest and brilliant lady that has ever lived?

No, but she is much closer to this than the opposite extreme where so many fascist TVF idiots place her.

So all the idiots out there should take note, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones!

Wow, you really did get sucked in by the red machine propaganda didn't you?

Even Amsterdam would struggle to write this much tripe in one sitting.

And there it goes... Intellectual thoughts out the window. It's like hearing from a neo-nazi, when he tried to explain why mixed marriages shouldn't be allowed. Because he keeps citing the mantra "Because white blood should stay white".

No in-depth or coherent explanation to why he believes that just a lot of indoctrinated rumblings of a person who is so lost in time in space that he forgot what the real world looks like.

So I ask the question I asked 'Chairman of the board', what has the Democrats done for the poor red and yellow that makes them better than the Shinawatras?

A small note, after tireless debates, I hate having to repeat myself that I'm neither red nor yellow. Thank you.

You quote that you are not red but the red slime oozes off your body.

What have the democrats done? Actually I really am of no colour persuasion, I like most people in Thailand do not care who runs the country (blue, green, orange or pin would do just fine) providing the evil Shins are out of the picture.

The democrats, while in power, were able to prevent Thailand riches and resources ending up in Dubai.

Oh and congratulations on you use of Nazi in your post.

I presume you did understand the concept of Godwin's Law before stooping so low.

It is a pretty much a given that the military constructed Abhisit coalition that governed Thailand from 2008 until getting thumped in the 2011 election was by far the most corrupt of any government of the last 13 years thanks to the necessity to entice defectors (friends of Newin) to swap sides.

After Samak was tossed out by the corrupt courts for a doing a spot of cooking on TV, Abhisit lost the assembly vote for PM by 163 to 298 (another thumping) to Somchai, the corrupt courts then banned 3 Thaksin allied parties, but even this wasn't enough to get the perennially thumped Abhisit over the line so the "friends of Newin" were bought by promising them control of the most lucrative portfolios in exchange for their votes. Fancy that, corruption actually increased when the Shinawatras were out of office and the "good and honourable" people were in office.

Where does the true evil lay??

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The most likely explanation

Note the lack of blind, thoughtless certainty that only the ignorant brainwashed fanatics amongst us are capable of achieving.

The most likely culprits in the majority of the deaths that occurred during the recent anti-democratic street protests were factions of the anti-democratic movement itself.

Interesting development today that military grade weaponry has been discovered in the possession of former members of Sutheps militia.

thoughtless certainty that only the ignorant brainwashed fanatics amongst us are capable of achieving.

Yup, you should know. rolleyes.gif

Red Shirts responsible for several of the attacks and deaths have already been arrested and confessed, but keep lying if that makes you feel better.

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Wow, you really did get sucked in by the red machine propaganda didn't you?

Even Amsterdam would struggle to write this much tripe in one sitting.

And there it goes... Intellectual thoughts out the window. It's like hearing from a neo-nazi, when he tried to explain why mixed marriages shouldn't be allowed. Because he keeps citing the mantra "Because white blood should stay white".

No in-depth or coherent explanation to why he believes that just a lot of indoctrinated rumblings of a person who is so lost in time in space that he forgot what the real world looks like.

So I ask the question I asked 'Chairman of the board', what has the Democrats done for the poor red and yellow that makes them better than the Shinawatras?

A small note, after tireless debates, I hate having to repeat myself that I'm neither red nor yellow. Thank you.

You quote that you are not red but the red slime oozes off your body.

What have the democrats done? Actually I really am of no colour persuasion, I like most people in Thailand do not care who runs the country (blue, green, orange or pin would do just fine) providing the evil Shins are out of the picture.

The democrats, while in power, were able to prevent Thailand riches and resources ending up in Dubai.

Oh and congratulations on you use of Nazi in your post.

I presume you did understand the concept of Godwin's Law before stooping so low.

It is a pretty much a given that the military constructed Abhisit coalition that governed Thailand from 2008 until getting thumped in the 2011 election was by far the most corrupt of any government of the last 13 years thanks to the necessity to entice defectors (friends of Newin) to swap sides.

After Samak was tossed out by the corrupt courts for a doing a spot of cooking on TV, Abhisit lost the assembly vote for PM by 163 to 298 (another thumping) to Somchai, the corrupt courts then banned 3 Thaksin allied parties, but even this wasn't enough to get the perennially thumped Abhisit over the line so the "friends of Newin" were bought by promising them control of the most lucrative portfolios in exchange for their votes. Fancy that, corruption actually increased when the Shinawatras were out of office and the "good and honourable" people were in office.

Where does the true evil lay??

By the looks of things, within your mind.

Posted

Wow, you really did get sucked in by the red machine propaganda didn't you?

Even Amsterdam would struggle to write this much tripe in one sitting.

And there it goes... Intellectual thoughts out the window. It's like hearing from a neo-nazi, when he tried to explain why mixed marriages shouldn't be allowed. Because he keeps citing the mantra "Because white blood should stay white".

No in-depth or coherent explanation to why he believes that just a lot of indoctrinated rumblings of a person who is so lost in time in space that he forgot what the real world looks like.

So I ask the question I asked 'Chairman of the board', what has the Democrats done for the poor red and yellow that makes them better than the Shinawatras?

A small note, after tireless debates, I hate having to repeat myself that I'm neither red nor yellow. Thank you.

You quote that you are not red but the red slime oozes off your body.

What have the democrats done? Actually I really am of no colour persuasion, I like most people in Thailand do not care who runs the country (blue, green, orange or pin would do just fine) providing the evil Shins are out of the picture.

The democrats, while in power, were able to prevent Thailand riches and resources ending up in Dubai.

Oh and congratulations on you use of Nazi in your post.

I presume you did understand the concept of Godwin's Law before stooping so low.

It is a pretty much a given that the military constructed Abhisit coalition that governed Thailand from 2008 until getting thumped in the 2011 election was by far the most corrupt of any government of the last 13 years thanks to the necessity to entice defectors (friends of Newin) to swap sides.

After Samak was tossed out by the corrupt courts for a doing a spot of cooking on TV, Abhisit lost the assembly vote for PM by 163 to 298 (another thumping) to Somchai, the corrupt courts then banned 3 Thaksin allied parties, but even this wasn't enough to get the perennially thumped Abhisit over the line so the "friends of Newin" were bought by promising them control of the most lucrative portfolios in exchange for their votes. Fancy that, corruption actually increased when the Shinawatras were out of office and the "good and honourable" people were in office.

Where does the true evil lay??

By the looks of things, within your mind.

Probably a bad idea calling people uneducated when you cannot hold your own weight in a debate.

Posted

It's not really a comment about "correcting English" (because who really cares as long as what is written can be comprehended), it is a comment pointing out the hypocrisy of the accusation of idiocy exposed by the grammatical errors in the aforementioned post.

So many here (TVF) have swallowed, hook, line and sinker, the Yellow mantra of Shinawatra corruption, criminality, incompetence and idiocy that there has developed an impressive positive feedback loop whereby any and all accusations that conform to the above are accepted as fact not because there is sufficient evidentiary support but because of the existing body of (mostly) unsubstantiated and exaggerated accusations that are treated as fact by the biased, bigoted and ignorant of those amongst us. Lies and untruths piled atop more lies and untruths to the point where any old third rate idiot feels that he/she can get away with slinging whatever false or unsubstantiated slurs they want at any Shinawatra unquestioned.

Yingluck, as Prime Minister, performed admirably in what can only be described as extremely trying circumstances.

Is she the most intelligent, honest and brilliant lady that has ever lived?

No, but she is much closer to this than the opposite extreme where so many fascist TVF idiots place her.

So all the idiots out there should take note, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones!

Wow, you really did get sucked in by the red machine propaganda didn't you?

Even Amsterdam would struggle to write this much tripe in one sitting.

Me getting sucked in by the Red propaganda machine is one possibility.

I wonder how much time you've taken to consider the other possibility, namely that it is you that has been sucked in by the Yellow propaganda machine?

What evidence have you sought out to see where the truth lies?

Have you ever allowed yourself to be even the slightest bit curious as to why 99.9% of the worlds media consistently print and televise reports contrary to your viewpoint?

Why the continued censorship and imposition of martial law?

What level of scrutiny have you applied to the anti-Thaksin accusations put forward by the Junta and their allies?

My guess is you've done very little to substantiate your position because deep down you know it's a house of cards and one peak behind the curtain and even the most brainless, blinded and duped fanatics would have to accept the reality of their lost cause.

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Look I'm going to get out of here before I start banging my head against the wall.

Anyone who can truly believe that Thaksin was more of a benefit than a hindrance to Thailand are in total denial of reality.

This is just like being in a room full of communists who blindly believe and repeat the mantra (chant style) to everyone who does not follow their beliefs.

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It's not really a comment about "correcting English" (because who really cares as long as what is written can be comprehended), it is a comment pointing out the hypocrisy of the accusation of idiocy exposed by the grammatical errors in the aforementioned post.

So many here (TVF) have swallowed, hook, line and sinker, the Yellow mantra of Shinawatra corruption, criminality, incompetence and idiocy that there has developed an impressive positive feedback loop whereby any and all accusations that conform to the above are accepted as fact not because there is sufficient evidentiary support but because of the existing body of (mostly) unsubstantiated and exaggerated accusations that are treated as fact by the biased, bigoted and ignorant of those amongst us. Lies and untruths piled atop more lies and untruths to the point where any old third rate idiot feels that he/she can get away with slinging whatever false or unsubstantiated slurs they want at any Shinawatra unquestioned.

Yingluck, as Prime Minister, performed admirably in what can only be described as extremely trying circumstances.

Is she the most intelligent, honest and brilliant lady that has ever lived?

No, but she is much closer to this than the opposite extreme where so many fascist TVF idiots place her.

So all the idiots out there should take note, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones!

Wow, you really did get sucked in by the red machine propaganda didn't you?

Even Amsterdam would struggle to write this much tripe in one sitting.

Me getting sucked in by the Red propaganda machine is one possibility.

I wonder how much time you've taken to consider the other possibility, namely that it is you that has been sucked in by the Yellow propaganda machine?

What evidence have you sought out to see where the truth lies?

Have you ever allowed yourself to be even the slightest bit curious as to why 99.9% of the worlds media consistently print and televise reports contrary to your viewpoint?

Why the continued censorship and imposition of martial law?

What level of scrutiny have you applied to the anti-Thaksin accusations put forward by the Junta and their allies?

My guess is you've done very little to substantiate your position because deep down you know it's a house of cards and one peak behind the curtain and even the most brainless, blinded and duped fanatics would have to accept the reality of their lost cause.

Your life in denial must be great.

You do realize that the earth is not flat, don't you?

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Wow, you really did get sucked in by the red machine propaganda didn't you?

Even Amsterdam would struggle to write this much tripe in one sitting.

And there it goes... Intellectual thoughts out the window. It's like hearing from a neo-nazi, when he tried to explain why mixed marriages shouldn't be allowed. Because he keeps citing the mantra "Because white blood should stay white".

No in-depth or coherent explanation to why he believes that just a lot of indoctrinated rumblings of a person who is so lost in time in space that he forgot what the real world looks like.

So I ask the question I asked 'Chairman of the board', what has the Democrats done for the poor red and yellow that makes them better than the Shinawatras?

A small note, after tireless debates, I hate having to repeat myself that I'm neither red nor yellow. Thank you.

You quote that you are not red but the red slime oozes off your body.

What have the democrats done? Actually I really am of no colour persuasion, I like most people in Thailand do not care who runs the country (blue, green, orange or pin would do just fine) providing the evil Shins are out of the picture.

The democrats, while in power, were able to prevent Thailand riches and resources ending up in Dubai.

Oh and congratulations on you use of Nazi in your post.

I presume you did understand the concept of Godwin's Law before stooping so low.

It is a pretty much a given that the military constructed Abhisit coalition that governed Thailand from 2008 until getting thumped in the 2011 election was by far the most corrupt of any government of the last 13 years thanks to the necessity to entice defectors (friends of Newin) to swap sides.

After Samak was tossed out by the corrupt courts for a doing a spot of cooking on TV, Abhisit lost the assembly vote for PM by 163 to 298 (another thumping) to Somchai, the corrupt courts then banned 3 Thaksin allied parties, but even this wasn't enough to get the perennially thumped Abhisit over the line so the "friends of Newin" were bought by promising them control of the most lucrative portfolios in exchange for their votes. Fancy that, corruption actually increased when the Shinawatras were out of office and the "good and honourable" people were in office.

Where does the true evil lay??

By the looks of things, within your mind.

Probably a bad idea calling people uneducated when you cannot hold your own weight in a debate.

Probably a bad idea, yes it is when you are arguing with someone who cannot grasp the slightest understanding of reality.

More meds sir?

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Wow, you really did get sucked in by the red machine propaganda didn't you?

Even Amsterdam would struggle to write this much tripe in one sitting.

And there it goes... Intellectual thoughts out the window. It's like hearing from a neo-nazi, when he tried to explain why mixed marriages shouldn't be allowed. Because he keeps citing the mantra "Because white blood should stay white".

No in-depth or coherent explanation to why he believes that just a lot of indoctrinated rumblings of a person who is so lost in time in space that he forgot what the real world looks like.

So I ask the question I asked 'Chairman of the board', what has the Democrats done for the poor red and yellow that makes them better than the Shinawatras?

A small note, after tireless debates, I hate having to repeat myself that I'm neither red nor yellow. Thank you.

You quote that you are not red but the red slime oozes off your body.

What have the democrats done? Actually I really am of no colour persuasion, I like most people in Thailand do not care who runs the country (blue, green, orange or pin would do just fine) providing the evil Shins are out of the picture.

The democrats, while in power, were able to prevent Thailand riches and resources ending up in Dubai.

Oh and congratulations on you use of Nazi in your post.

I presume you did understand the concept of Godwin's Law before stooping so low.

It is a pretty much a given that the military constructed Abhisit coalition that governed Thailand from 2008 until getting thumped in the 2011 election was by far the most corrupt of any government of the last 13 years thanks to the necessity to entice defectors (friends of Newin) to swap sides.

After Samak was tossed out by the corrupt courts for a doing a spot of cooking on TV, Abhisit lost the assembly vote for PM by 163 to 298 (another thumping) to Somchai, the corrupt courts then banned 3 Thaksin allied parties, but even this wasn't enough to get the perennially thumped Abhisit over the line so the "friends of Newin" were bought by promising them control of the most lucrative portfolios in exchange for their votes. Fancy that, corruption actually increased when the Shinawatras were out of office and the "good and honourable" people were in office.

Where does the true evil lay??

By the looks of things, within your mind.

Probably a bad idea calling people uneducated when you cannot hold your own weight in a debate.

Probably a bad idea, yes it is when you are arguing with someone who cannot grasp the slightest understanding of reality.

More meds sir?

You're not from Ohio are you?

Why can't you answer a simple question... did the money go to the something that is beneficial for the people or did it go to someone elses pockets?

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It's not really a comment about "correcting English" (because who really cares as long as what is written can be comprehended), it is a comment pointing out the hypocrisy of the accusation of idiocy exposed by the grammatical errors in the aforementioned post.

So many here (TVF) have swallowed, hook, line and sinker, the Yellow mantra of Shinawatra corruption, criminality, incompetence and idiocy that there has developed an impressive positive feedback loop whereby any and all accusations that conform to the above are accepted as fact not because there is sufficient evidentiary support but because of the existing body of (mostly) unsubstantiated and exaggerated accusations that are treated as fact by the biased, bigoted and ignorant of those amongst us. Lies and untruths piled atop more lies and untruths to the point where any old third rate idiot feels that he/she can get away with slinging whatever false or unsubstantiated slurs they want at any Shinawatra unquestioned.

Yingluck, as Prime Minister, performed admirably in what can only be described as extremely trying circumstances.

Is she the most intelligent, honest and brilliant lady that has ever lived?

No, but she is much closer to this than the opposite extreme where so many fascist TVF idiots place her.

So all the idiots out there should take note, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones!

Wow, you really did get sucked in by the red machine propaganda didn't you?

Even Amsterdam would struggle to write this much tripe in one sitting.

Me getting sucked in by the Red propaganda machine is one possibility.

I wonder how much time you've taken to consider the other possibility, namely that it is you that has been sucked in by the Yellow propaganda machine?

What evidence have you sought out to see where the truth lies?

Have you ever allowed yourself to be even the slightest bit curious as to why 99.9% of the worlds media consistently print and televise reports contrary to your viewpoint?

Why the continued censorship and imposition of martial law?

What level of scrutiny have you applied to the anti-Thaksin accusations put forward by the Junta and their allies?

My guess is you've done very little to substantiate your position because deep down you know it's a house of cards and one peak behind the curtain and even the most brainless, blinded and duped fanatics would have to accept the reality of their lost cause.

Your life in denial must be great.

You do realize that the earth is not flat, don't you?

I am well aware that the Earth is not flat

Out of curiosity, you do realise that Abhisit and the Democrats are not democratic don't you?

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Look I'm going to get out of here before I start banging my head against the wall.

Anyone who can truly believe that Thaksin was more of a benefit than a hindrance to Thailand are in total denial of reality.

This is just like being in a room full of communists who blindly believe and repeat the mantra (chant style) to everyone who does not follow their beliefs.

Just who is denying reality?

A little bit of Wiki:

Thaksin's economic policies helped Thailand recover from the 1997 Asian financial crisis and substantially reduce poverty. GDP grew from 4.9 trillion baht in 2001 to 7.1 trillion baht in 2006. Thailand repaid its debts to the International Monetary Fund two years ahead of schedule.

Income in the Northeast, the poorest part of the country, rose by 46% from 2001 to 2006.[64] Nationwide poverty fell from 21.3% to 11.3%.[26] Thailand's Gini coefficient, a measure of income inequality, fell from .525 in 2000 to .499 in 2004 (it had risen from 1996 to 2000) ).[65] The Stock Exchange of Thailand outperformed other markets in the region. After facing fiscal deficits in 2001 and 2002, Thaksin balanced the national budget, producing comfortable fiscal surpluses for 2003 to 2005. Despite a massive program of infrastructure investments, a balanced budget was projected for 2007.[66] Public sector debt fell from 57 per cent of GDP in January 2001 to 41 per cent in September 2006.[30][31] Foreign exchange reserves doubled from US$30 billion in 2001 to US$64 billion in 2006.[67]

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Posted

Out of curiosity, you do realise that Abhisit and the Democrats are not democratic don't you?

Pssst! Don't tell anyone it's a secret.

Posted

To those who perceive Thaksin Shinwatra and his clan along with their ilk as angelic benevolent carers perhaps a less biased research programme may enlighten you to the dubious delights of the Thaksin self serving benevolence campaign over the years.

One small snippet below

That particular item is but a small snippet of the general condemnation and exposure of The Shinwatra clan and their ilk concerning their self benefiting ongoing corrupt self serving practices, all of which can be followed up with a number of other links that may prove to be an effective cure for the ongoing case of ''conjunctivas'' (Red Eye) the some of you seem to be chronic sufferers of.

Having been resident here for some 23 + yeas I have like many others witnessed the true aims of the Shinwatra clan and its ilk.Those aims were not aimed of benefiting Thailand and its peoples by any stretch of anyone's imagination.

The Shinwatra family motto is motto is ''Me First"

However it seems as if there may be a course of treatment available for those sufferers of Narcissism.

red-flags-to-narcissistic-personality-di

'Policy corruption'

Thaksin was accused of "policy corruption", such as infrastructure and liberalization policies that, while legal and a potential benefit to society, also aided companies that were owned by his family members. Supannee Chai-amporn and Sirinthip Arun-rue of the National Institute of Development Administration claimed that policy corruption caused the state to spend nearly 30 per cent more than it otherwise should have spent, costing the state an additional 400 billion baht. Other examples cited were the Board of Investment's granting tax breaks worth a total of Bt16.4 billion to Shin Satellite for its iPSTAR project in 2003, and the Transport Ministry's decision the same year to abolish the minimum air fare of Bt3.8 /km when Shin Corp was about to enter into a joint venture with low-cost carrier AirAsia to open a Thai subsidiary.

After the 2006 coup, the military junta-appointed Assets Examination Committee froze Thaksin's assets based on charges of policy corruption.

Thaksin denied the allegations. "They just made up a beautiful term to use against me. There's no such thing in this government. Our policies only serve the interests of the majority of the people", he said. From 2002 to 2006, the stock price of Shin Corp increased from 38 to 104 baht (an increase of 173 per cent) while the stock price of Shin Satellite fell. In the same period, the Stock Exchange of Thailand index rose 161 per cent, and the price of other major SET blue chip companies increased vastly more. Industry deregulation caused the market share of AIS to fall from 68 per cent to 53 per cent.

Posted

To those who perceive Thaksin Shinwatra and his clan along with their ilk as angelic benevolent carers perhaps a less biased research programme may enlighten you to the dubious delights of the Thaksin self serving benevolence campaign over the years.

One small snippet below

That particular item is but a small snippet of the general condemnation and exposure of The Shinwatra clan and their ilk concerning their self benefiting ongoing corrupt self serving practices, all of which can be followed up with a number of other links that may prove to be an effective cure for the ongoing case of ''conjunctivas'' (Red Eye) the some of you seem to be chronic sufferers of.

Having been resident here for some 23 + yeas I have like many others witnessed the true aims of the Shinwatra clan and its ilk.Those aims were not aimed of benefiting Thailand and its peoples by any stretch of anyone's imagination.

The Shinwatra family motto is motto is ''Me First"

However it seems as if there may be a course of treatment available for those sufferers of Narcissism.

red-flags-to-narcissistic-personality-di

'Policy corruption'

Thaksin was accused of "policy corruption", such as infrastructure and liberalization policies that, while legal and a potential benefit to society, also aided companies that were owned by his family members. Supannee Chai-amporn and Sirinthip Arun-rue of the National Institute of Development Administration claimed that policy corruption caused the state to spend nearly 30 per cent more than it otherwise should have spent, costing the state an additional 400 billion baht. Other examples cited were the Board of Investment's granting tax breaks worth a total of Bt16.4 billion to Shin Satellite for its iPSTAR project in 2003, and the Transport Ministry's decision the same year to abolish the minimum air fare of Bt3.8 /km when Shin Corp was about to enter into a joint venture with low-cost carrier AirAsia to open a Thai subsidiary.

After the 2006 coup, the military junta-appointed Assets Examination Committee froze Thaksin's assets based on charges of policy corruption.

Thaksin denied the allegations. "They just made up a beautiful term to use against me. There's no such thing in this government. Our policies only serve the interests of the majority of the people", he said. From 2002 to 2006, the stock price of Shin Corp increased from 38 to 104 baht (an increase of 173 per cent) while the stock price of Shin Satellite fell. In the same period, the Stock Exchange of Thailand index rose 161 per cent, and the price of other major SET blue chip companies increased vastly more. Industry deregulation caused the market share of AIS to fall from 68 per cent to 53 per cent.

A little more from the article you quote:

How Corrupt is Thaksin:

Of course, Thaksin is a Thai person, and perhaps like a typical Thai person, he has little problem with corruption. The next question is then, how corrupt, in fact, is Thaksin?

First;

  • On rating, while Thaksin is seen as the most corrupted politician in Thailand’s history, but according to Transparency International , an independent agency that tracks corruption perception, findings, in 1995 before Thaksin governed Thailand, Thailand was rated lowly 2.79. Then in 2003, after Thaksin governed Thailand, Thailand was 3.30, and in 2007, still Thaksin, Thailand was 3.20. The score 10 means no corruption. The Thaksin’s score, were the least corrupt for Thailand in decades.

Second;

  • On the day that the Thai court, nationalized most of Thaksin’s US$ billions asset away on corruption charges, the international wire service, Bloomberg reported that Thaksin’s billions, mostly in stock, rose in value along the same line as the Thai stock market. What Bloomberg meant, is that there was no evidence that Thaksin got rich from corruption, by using his powers. However, most local press, like the Nation Group, reported, that Thaksin’s holdings, grew larger, than the stock market gain. What Nation Group meant to say, is that Thaksin used corruption to get “Extra Rich” than what the “Benchmark Fair Return” of the stock market says.

Third;

  • On comparing Thaksin to other people, to see if he is more or less corrupt, please check out Transparency International data. The fact is, Transparency International data, sees Thaksin’s government, as less corrupt than the 2006 coup government, or the military installed Abhisit government. In fact, for the past 10 years or so, Thaksin’s government, according to Transparency International, is least corrupt of all.

Again, according to Transparency International, Thaksin government is less corrupt, than the Abhisit’s government.

At this point, one must think about the Thai justice system, as there absolutely never have been a corruption case, bought on the 2006 coup government, or the Abhisit’s government. Unfortunately for Thailand, again, the reason the 2006 coup government and the Abhisit government, have never been charged with corruption, could be as the World Justice Report says, that Thailand’s civil justice system, is under political influence.

  • Reuters by Ambika Ahuja, reports:

From minor bribes to dubious multi-billion-dollar procurement deals, corruption is as endemic as ever in Thailand despite the fastest economic growth in 13 years and a government led by an Oxford-educated technocrat.

British-born Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva, a 46-year-old economist, signaled zero-tolerance for graft when he took power in December 2008 with fellow a Oxford University alumnus, Finance Minister Korn Chatikavanij. But corruption indicators show graft remains deeply rooted two years into Abhisit’s administration.

The reason lies in one of the fundamental weaknesses of his premiership — he holds on to power only with the support of networks of politicians, generals and bureaucrats whose reputation for probity does not match his own, and who epitomize the patronage politics that has long bedeviledThailand.

“The lack of stability makes it hard to make tough, potentially politically damaging decisions.”

Corruption allegations have shadowed a $42-billion government-spending plan to rescue Thailand from recession. Questions were raised over procurement projects involving security forces, while abuse-of-power complaints against police and provincial officials remain a staple of local media reports.

Abhisit faces an uphill struggle if he is to get his fractious coalition government under control, rally popular support and challenge his backers to achieve much-needed reforms.

UNHOLY ALLIANCES

To form a government, Abhisit has been forced into uneasy alliances. A case in point is Bhumjai Thai, a party whose support is crucial to Abhisit in his six-party coalition government.

The party’s de facto leader Newin Chidchob is famed as one the country’s most skilled practioners of patronage politics, but is banned from parliament due to past alleged infractions.

Official Bhumjai Thai leader Chavarat Chanvirakul oversees the Interior Ministry where he has been accused of auctioning off provincial governor posts to the highest bidder.

He’s also accused of orchestrating construction deals to benefit his family and helping to manipulate district chief examinations in northeastern Thailand to help allies. He has denied all allegations, calling them politically motivated.

The Thai military, whose more than 1,000 active generals outnumber those in the U.S. military which is at least three times its size, is also a perennial source of cost overruns and corruption allegations.

The army budget has doubled since a 2006 military coup removed a government led by former premier Thaksin Shinawatra, who was accused of corruption and later convicted in a Thai court of breaking conflict of interest laws while in office.

Recent army procurement deals have raised questions of whether military corruption has worsened since the coup.

These include a 350 million baht ($11.4 million) purchase of a leaky surveillance blimp last year and more than 700 UK-made GT200 bomb detectors that turned out to be an embarrassing scam — they are lumps of plastic with no working mechanical parts.

The military said in July it would keep the airship if its U.S. manufacturer paid for repairs. It initially insisted the bomb detectors, which cost 900,000 baht ($29,360) each, worked fine until weeks of public outcry brought an admission they had flaws. But they said the purchase was above board.

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Yes, Robespierre, Thaksin didn't get rich via corruption, you say so, must be true. A policeman turning into billionaire when given extremely lucrative contracts and communication monopolies by political cronies is perfectly above board. :rolleyes:

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