NRC's Paiboon urges more power to the people in politics

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NRC's Paiboon urges more power to the people in politics

BANGKOK, 30 October 2014 (NNT) – National Reform Council (NRC) member on political reform and former Senator Paiboon Nititawan revealed that in order to effectively reform politics, the power of political parties must be reduced.

According to Mr. Paiboon, the common people must have a more active role in politics in order to create a system of checks and balances between the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of government.

He expressed that a country’s prime minister should be eligible for only one term in office because that limited time frame would encourage the prime minister to focus on performing his or her duties to the fullest and prevent an abuse of power.

The former Senator added that the prime minister should still be elected by the Parliament and that a general election of the prime minister is not suitable at this time.

As for impeachment motions, Mr. Paiboon foresees that the upcoming constitution may include provisions concerning the consideration of corruption cases, including a clause that suspends those sentenced from holding political positions.


-- NNT 2014-10-30

[Thailand]

Perhaps let the common people be allowed to take part in elections without fear of intimidation and threats, that would be a step forward?

[ginjag]

Perhaps let the common people be allowed to take part in elections without fear of intimidation and threats, that would be a step forward?

Had PTP/Yingluck served us well no elections would have been due............Think a bit .

[smutcakes]

I cant work out if this guy is trying to be ironic or is just completely detached from reality.

He wants to give power to the people by staging a coup?

[Boxclever]

With a stacked parliament electing the prime minister, the ruling government can hold onto power forever! This is democracy Thai style?

[Thailand]

Perhaps let the common people be allowed to take part in elections without fear of intimidation and threats, that would be a step forward?

Had PTP/Yingluck served us well no elections would have been due............Think a bit .

You do come up with a complete load of twaddle why do you bother! No,not a question.

[peptidebomber]

The people having a say who represents them?

He could get arrested for suggesting such things!

[smutcakes]

In taking the power out of the hands of political parties, will the military also reduce their own power, which incidentally is the most powerful and time and time again has taken the power away from the people.

[iReason]

"..the common people must have a more active role in politics..."

But,..

"...a general election of the prime minister is not suitable at this time"

[Boxclever]

C'mon Jingjag, justify THIS one

[lomatopo]

Mr. Paiboon foresees that the upcoming constitution may include provisions concerning the consideration of corruption cases, including a clause that suspends those sentenced from holding political positions.

Never saw this one coming.

Now must sentence, maybe convict first?, all the Bad People.

[ggold]

If Paiboon is anything like the rest of the NRC then Thailand really has no hope of attaining democracy.

It starts at the top if you can't get relatively honest Politicians who care more for the country than lining their own pockets, checks and balances aren't worth anything.

Besides we had people power with the red shirts, and we all know what happened there!

[ginjag]

Perhaps let the common people be allowed to take part in elections without fear of intimidation and threats, that would be a step forward?

Had PTP/Yingluck served us well no elections would have been due............Think a bit .

You do come up with a complete load of twaddle why do you bother! No,not a question.

Just because i'm not impressed with your lots Lets bash the PM as much as possible attitude..............Your lot lost it way back accept it.

You deserve this intervention, next time kick the crap out of PTP.

[ginjag]

C'mon Jingjag, justify THIS one

I can only answer for ginjag. I do not know Jingjag, is he one of your new recruits ?? bashing the PM and anything that is not on your rhetoric.

[ginjag]

Perhaps let the common people be allowed to take part in elections without fear of intimidation and threats, that would be a step forward?

Had PTP/Yingluck served us well no elections would have been due............Think a bit .

You do come up with a complete load of twaddle why do you bother! No,not a question.

#4 #4 read it---- it answers all your questions why we are at this stage.

[heybruce]

Perhaps let the common people be allowed to take part in elections without fear of intimidation and threats, that would be a step forward?

Had PTP/Yingluck served us well no elections would have been due............Think a bit .

People expressed unhappiness with the PTP/Yingluck government, so elections were called. That is a proper democratic solution to the problem. Unfortunately some undemocratic people prevented the elections, and now these anti-democrats are planning a new constitution that will give the appearance of democracy while leaving power in the hands of "good people"--those who stage coups and benefit from coups.

I'd suggest that you think a bit, but as you've already rejected the lessons of history regarding military governments I don't think there is any point.

[ginjag]

Perhaps let the common people be allowed to take part in elections without fear of intimidation and threats, that would be a step forward?

Had PTP/Yingluck served us well no elections would have been due............Think a bit .

People expressed unhappiness with the PTP/Yingluck government, so elections were called. That is a proper democratic solution to the problem. Unfortunately some undemocratic people prevented the elections, and now these anti-democrats are planning a new constitution that will give the appearance of democracy while leaving power in the hands of "good people"--those who stage coups and benefit from coups.

I'd suggest that you think a bit, but as you've already rejected the lessons of history regarding military governments I don't think there is any point.

People expressed unhappiness with the PTP Yinglucks government ??? what an understatement.

They shot themselves in the foot and never deserved another election that Thaksin wanted to get them 4 more years of calamity.

Quote "some undemocratic people prevented the elections"

You do not have to keep spelling out your rhetoric, you will now have to wait for a year or so, thanks to a defunct government.

Everyday you are telling us the PM is no good but you should have been more concerned when PTP were in power to prevent the intervention.

[ginjag]

C'mon Jingjag, justify THIS one

I can only answer for ginjag. I do not know Jingjag, is he one of your new recruits ?? bashing the PM and anything that is not on your rhetoric.

Shall I just call you BOX, and cut out the clever. Easy to pick on posters posts and then slip up yourself.

[Eric Loh]

Won't trust a man who expressed openly that he hate election and now said he want more power to the people. He is a fake and untrustworthy to be in the CDC to be fair and neutral.

[h90]

Perhaps let the common people be allowed to take part in elections without fear of intimidation and threats, that would be a step forward?

with vote buying it is complete irrelevant if you have someone buys himself into office or if we have a "normal" dictator. It is equal and has nothing to do with democracy.

[heybruce]

Perhaps let the common people be allowed to take part in elections without fear of intimidation and threats, that would be a step forward?

Had PTP/Yingluck served us well no elections would have been due............Think a bit .

People expressed unhappiness with the PTP/Yingluck government, so elections were called. That is a proper democratic solution to the problem. Unfortunately some undemocratic people prevented the elections, and now these anti-democrats are planning a new constitution that will give the appearance of democracy while leaving power in the hands of "good people"--those who stage coups and benefit from coups.

I'd suggest that you think a bit, but as you've already rejected the lessons of history regarding military governments I don't think there is any point.

People expressed unhappiness with the PTP Yinglucks government ??? what an understatement.

They shot themselves in the foot and never deserved another election that Thaksin wanted to get them 4 more years of calamity.

Quote "some undemocratic people prevented the elections"

You do not have to keep spelling out your rhetoric, you will now have to wait for a year or so, thanks to a defunct government.

Everyday you are telling us the PM is no good but you should have been more concerned when PTP were in power to prevent the intervention.

"never deserved another election"? I assume you are referring to the Thai people, and I disagree.

Yes, undemocratic people prevented elections. How would you describe the Suthep thugs who used violence and intimidation to keep candidates from registering and people from voting? Do you think the people who staged a coup are democrats?

Everyday you are explaining why the PTP government was no good. Why don't you explain why a military dictatorship and a reform council thinking of ways to restrict democracy is better than letting the Thai people vote in elections?

[scorecard]

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In taking the power out of the hands of political parties, will the military also reduce their own power, which incidentally is the most powerful and time and time again has taken the power away from the people.

Why don't you post something constructive for a change. It's an important proposition and deserves some unbiased analysis and comment.

[smedly]

I don't care who is in office as long as there are restrictions in place to stop them running rampant and abusing their position

as I have said many times

a full 2/3 majority vote in the house for certain types of bills and also for charter and constitutional amendments - if this had been in place during the last governments tenure then none of the controversial bills and amendments would ever have got off the ground - in fact they would never have been on the books for consideration in the first place

No single party that represents only just over 50% of voters should have total and ultimate power to do as they please

Government finance also needs to be open and accountable and quarterly reports produced to show the balance sheet, anyone caught telling lies should face the courts and prison

[rickirs]

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I don't care who is in office as long as there are restrictions in place to stop them running rampant and abusing their position

as I have said many times

a full 2/3 majority vote in the house for certain types of bills and also for charter and constitutional amendments - if this had been in place during the last governments tenure then none of the controversial bills and amendments would ever have got off the ground - in fact they would never have been on the books for consideration in the first place

No single party that represents only just over 50% of voters should have total and ultimate power to do as they please

Government finance also needs to be open and accountable and quarterly reports produced to show the balance sheet, anyone caught telling lies should face the courts and prison

As compared to the military coup leaders who get zero per cent of the vote and 100% of the power. That seems a much more efficient way to gain the government .... and keep it.

[retarius]

I actually thought from the headline that he meant give more power to the people in politics aka the politicians....

[MediaWatcher]

smedly, on 30 Oct 2014 - 18:07, said:

I don't care who is in office as long as there are restrictions in place to stop them running rampant and abusing their position

as I have said many times

a full 2/3 majority vote in the house for certain types of bills and also for charter and constitutional amendments - if this had been in place during the last governments tenure then none of the controversial bills and amendments would ever have got off the ground - in fact they would never have been on the books for consideration in the first place

No single party that represents only just over 50% of voters should have total and ultimate power to do as they please

Government finance also needs to be open and accountable and quarterly reports produced to show the balance sheet, anyone caught telling lies should face the courts and prison

Although what you say makes some sense, there is a fundamental flaw, but you are not the only one to miss it. What many do not realise is that in Thailand, it is a perceived democracy, it's there to quell the voices of other democratic governments. The true government of Thailand, since 1932, has been the military, just research the 1951 coup and see what happened when elected politicians attempted to reduce the militaries power, leading to the military rewriting the constitution and "forcing" the king to sign it... this by the very organisation that purports to "protect" the monarchy.

[iReason]

smedly, on 30 Oct 2014 - 18:07, said:

I don't care who is in office as long as there are restrictions in place to stop them running rampant and abusing their position

as I have said many times

a full 2/3 majority vote in the house for certain types of bills and also for charter and constitutional amendments - if this had been in place during the last governments tenure then none of the controversial bills and amendments would ever have got off the ground - in fact they would never have been on the books for consideration in the first place

No single party that represents only just over 50% of voters should have total and ultimate power to do as they please

Government finance also needs to be open and accountable and quarterly reports produced to show the balance sheet, anyone caught telling lies should face the courts and prison

Although what you say makes some sense, there is a fundamental flaw, but you are not the only one to miss it. What many do not realise is that in Thailand, it is a perceived democracy, it's there to quell the voices of other democratic governments. The true government of Thailand, since 1932, has been the military, just research the 1951 coup and see what happened when elected politicians attempted to reduce the militaries power, leading to the military rewriting the constitution and "forcing" the king to sign it... this by the very organisation that purports to "protect" the monarchy.

Bingo!

So many dreamers (lemmings?) on here think the White Knight has come to save the day.

Mere subterfuge...

If others don't think that's true, see what they did to JFK when he attempted to reign in The MIC.

And ruffled more than a few feathers when he fired the heads of the CIA while stating:

"I want to splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds."

Amerika is now a Police State.

[ramrod711]

He expressed that a country’s prime minister should be eligible for only one term in office because that limited time frame would encourage the prime minister to focus on performing his or her duties to the fullest and prevent an abuse of power.

As for impeachment motions, Mr. Paiboon foresees that the upcoming constitution may include provisions concerning the consideration of corruption cases, including a clause that suspends those sentenced from holding political positions.

Term limits and a clause to prevent criminals from holding office? I love this, these guys are doing a great job! How can anyone other than a Thaksin lackey disagree with these suggestions?

[jcsmith]

Perhaps let the common people be allowed to take part in elections without fear of intimidation and threats, that would be a step forward?

with vote buying it is complete irrelevant if you have someone buys himself into office or if we have a "normal" dictator. It is equal and has nothing to do with democracy.

Then get BOTH sides to stop vote buying. I'm all for seeing that. What I hate though is that people use the Vote Buying as an excuse to say that one side should not always win the elections, and ignore the fact that both sides buy votes.

It's similar to Suthep claiming that he was the will of the thai people, but then when elections were held he blocked poll booths and the democrats refused to run. They know they can't win an election. Proposals to restrict who can vote have failed in the past. It's easier to just get in unelected and then hold on as long as you can.

[Alwyn]

Perhaps let the common people be allowed to take part in elections without fear of intimidation and threats, that would be a step forward?

Had PTP/Yingluck served us well no elections would have been due............Think a bit .

You do come up with a complete load of twaddle why do you bother! No,not a question.

Just because i'm not impressed with your lots Lets bash the PM as much as possible attitude..............Your lot lost it way back accept it.

You deserve this intervention, next time kick the crap out of PTP.

You spend your entire time here bashing the previous PM yet you throw your toys out of the pram when people bash the current unelected one. So only your PM bashing is allowed, is that what you're telling us?