Ebola and Terrorism ... can it get any sillier?

[David48]

Ebola and Terrorism ... can it get any sillier?

I'm an Aussie and I dip my head in shame that this story comes from Foster's Country.

Like any Country, we have the Shock Jocks ... those people who say stuff just to cause a stir, get attention (not unlike Thai Visa!).

Some even run for Parliament ... sadly, one actually got elected.

Here is the latest diatribe from one such elected Tasmanian Senator ... Jacqui Lambie

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What is she guilty of (this time)?

Jacqui Lambie asks if terrorists may use Ebola against Australia ...

JACQUI LAMBIE has questioned the military’s leaders on the potential of terrorists attacking Australia and its military using the deadly Ebola virus.

“Do you have any information to suggest that Australia’s enemies could attack our country or military using the virus,” the Palmer United Party Senator asked Vice Admiral Ray Griggs at a senate estimates hearing.

TOP DOCTOR: We’re not ready for Ebola

“For example, with suicide agents who are affected with the disease or have access to bodily fluids containing the disease,” she went on.

“What is your contingency plan to fight this?”

The Vice Chief of the Defence Force replied “I don’t believe there is any evidence to suggest that that is a likely course of action”.

Thankfully, our Cartoonists balance the argument ...

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[JDGRUEN]

I know it shocks your Liberal / Leftist soul... but if Islamist - Jihadist are willing to strap on explosive vests as has been done hundreds of times and blow themselves up in all sorts of places -- and or have done it in a vehicle.. It is hardly a leap of imagination that a Radicalized Islamist would submit to being injected with Ebola laden blood or serum - then strap on an explosive belt - after finding his / her way into a Western Country and blow themselves up with the aid of confederates that would supply the explosive vest,... then you are naive to the extreme... It is highly plausible ... even probable.

There are intelligence reports coming out of Spain that the Islamist plan to just that...

Radical Jihadists do not seem to have much concern about dying for the cause... it would hardly seem to matter the intermediate intentional infection with Ebola ...

It is not alarmist to believe it could happen -- it is just rational and justified good Contingency Planning... WHAT IF... Done all the time in Western Countries ... sorry you didn't read the very true to life novels portraying such possible events.

Is it going to happen tomorrow - probably not -- could it happen soon ... quite possible - even probable...

Governments do worst possible case contingency planning all the time for many different reasons ... sorry you are so naive as to not believe it is so...

Edited October 31, 2014 by JDGRUEN

[Farma]

Plus if you go back through Oz news reports from a few weeks ago you will find a story on the intelligence services concerned about this scenario.

[David48]

Plus if you go back through Oz news reports from a few weeks ago you will find a story on the intelligence services concerned about this scenario.

Any link would be read with interest.

Thanks

[Farma]

Simple..do a google search "ebola threat terrorist" and see how many replies you get.

[samran]

With respect, I'd hardly call David48 a left wing loony.

That particular epithet is saved for people like me from my stalkers.

[pgrahmm]

The threat is very real....especially with the purposely kept porous borders just for the purpose of infiltration....Look at Forbes they just did a story on this.....Oz is lucky it's an island.....

[Soutpeel]

With respect, I'd hardly call David48 a left wing loony.

That particular epithet is saved for people like me from my stalkers.

But I think we can safely conclude "JDGRUEN's" favorite news channel is "FOX News"

[ClutchClark]

With respect, I'd hardly call David48 a left wing loony.

That particular epithet is saved for people like me from my stalkers.

But I think we can safely conclude "JDGRUEN's" favorite news channel is "FOX News"

Perhaps a lesson in biological warfare would do you some good.

Its nothing new.

American settlers wiped out huge indigenous populations with smallpox infected blankets.

The only incredulous thing about this thread is that some posters choose political affiliation over common sense.

[Jingthing]

The radical Islamic Jihadists would certainly use any weapon they can against the west, but unfortunately for them, Ebola is not suitable for weaponization.

Next ...

[Ulysses G.]

Most people would have laughed at the idea of hijacking airliners with plastic knives and box cutters and flying them into buildings and killing thousands of people - before it actually happened.

[ClutchClark]

The radical Islamic Jihadists would certainly use any weapon they can against the west, but unfortunately for them, Ebola is not suitable for weaponization.

Next ...

The very idea a terrorist would attempt such a thing is about as ridiculous as saying they would try to blow up a plane with a pair of underwear.

Cheers

[ClutchClark]

Most people would have laughed at the idea of hijacking airliners with plastic knives and box cutters and flying them into buildings and killing thousands of people - before it actually happened.

Darn, you beat me a few seconds.

[Jingthing]

Most people would have laughed at the idea of hijacking airliners with plastic knives and box cutters and flying them into buildings and killing thousands of people - before it actually happened.

Yeah I get that, but if people are afraid of this now, and many are, they are terrorized already ...

This "threat" real or not doesn't really change what the world needs to do to respond to Ebola.

Control at the outbreak areas, vaccine, and cure.

Edited November 1, 2014 by Jingthing

[ClutchClark]

The radical Islamic Jihadists would certainly use any weapon they can against the west, but unfortunately for them, Ebola is not suitable for weaponization.

Next ...

Jing,

So you bring up a valid point, but what actually defines "weaponization"? Would it be the ability to affect casualties on a large scale?

The reason i ask is that it appears terrorists settle for even small-scale attacks quite frequently. For instance, those two guys who killed Soldier, Lee Rigby. As well as many of these recent attacks by converts and home-grown terrorists who think trading their life for even one casualty is worth it.

[ClutchClark]

Most people would have laughed at the idea of hijacking airliners with plastic knives and box cutters and flying them into buildings and killing thousands of people - before it actually happened.

Yeah I get that, but if people are afraid of this now, and many are, they are terrorized already ...

This "threat" real or not doesn't really change what the world needs to do to respond to Ebola.

Control at the outbreak areas, vaccine, and cure.

Neither this article nor anyones' post suggested stopping the goal of controlling outbreak with vaccine and cure, Jing. Lets not get sidetracked.

And its a rather big leap to suggest being alert to a threat is the same thing as being terrorized.

Is every guy who wears a condom "terrorized"?

And is it possible for me to use those really neat emoticons while using an iPad? I really love that one with the guy drinking coffee and reading the paper. Do me favor and pretend I attached two of those at the end of this post.

Cheers

Edited November 1, 2014 by ClutchClark

[Crazy chef 1]

actually a good question...

it's the same with a condom:better you got one and don't need it than you need one and haven't got one..

[krisb]

The radical Islamic Jihadists would certainly use any weapon they can against the west, but unfortunately for them, Ebola is not suitable for weaponization.

Next ...

Agree.

Plus it's not their style. Not shocking enough.

Not sure any are smart enough to carry out disease attacks on a large scale.

[David48]

actually a good question...

it's the same with a condom:better you got one and don't need it than you need one and haven't got one..

I carry a few condoms in my Shaving Kit Bag.

MissFarmGirl was rifling through the bag looking for something else and spotted them.

I got a round of 'Hello, Hello, wot have we here then?' (well, the Poms would remember that line).

Cough, Cough

Umm, Umm

Honey ... check the date ... they are really old ... bought before I met you dearest.

Likely excuse, but carry on.

Bullet dodged ...

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[ClutchClark]

The radical Islamic Jihadists would certainly use any weapon they can against the west, but unfortunately for them, Ebola is not suitable for weaponization.

Next ...

Agree.

Plus it's not their style. Not shocking enough.

Not sure any are smart enough to carry out disease attacks on a large scale.

Not shocking enough?

The Ebola virus is very much a part of the worlds psyche right now.

Countries are closing their borders for fear of even an accidental spread of the disease.

An intentional terrorist spread of Ebola would certainly be shocking.

[simple1]

Actually Lambie was leveraging off a spoof US news website, The National Report. She took it seriously as she did when using an altered photo to justify banning the burka, from a far right website in the UK, of an Afghan police woman carrying a weapon, who was murdered by the Taliban - Lambie is a buffoon who should not be in Federal parliament.

Original news article in the Oz press at:

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/jacqui-lambie-questions-defence-officials-about-prospect-of-ebolainfected-suicide-agents-attacking-australia-20141022-119ve0.html

Edited November 1, 2014 by simple1

[ClutchClark]

Actually Lambie was leveraging off a spoof US news website, The National Report. She took it seriously as she did when using an altered photo to justify banning the burka, from a far right website in the UK, of an Afghan police woman carrying a weapon, who was murdered by the Taliban - Lambie is a buffoon who should not be in Federal parliament.

Original news article in the Oz press at:

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/jacqui-lambie-questions-defence-officials-about-prospect-of-ebolainfected-suicide-agents-attacking-australia-20141022-119ve0.html

Aha, thanks for clarifying.

The US has its share of these types of politicians.

And they manage to win elections as well.

Doesn't say much for the voter or it says alot for their PR teams ;-)

[David48]

Lambie is a buffoon who should not be in Federal parliament.

She ex-Army, appeals to a certain demographic through her wacky comments ... not my vote though.

You could rename her the Human Headline and not be to wide of the mark ...

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Edited November 1, 2014 by David48

[samran]

Actually Lambie was leveraging off a spoof US news website, The National Report. She took it seriously as she did when using an altered photo to justify banning the burka, from a far right website in the UK, of an Afghan police woman carrying a weapon, who was murdered by the Taliban - Lambie is a buffoon who should not be in Federal parliament.

Original news article in the Oz press at:

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/jacqui-lambie-questions-defence-officials-about-prospect-of-ebolainfected-suicide-agents-attacking-australia-20141022-119ve0.html

Aha, thanks for clarifying.

The US has its share of these types of politicians.

And they manage to win elections as well.

Doesn't say much for the voter or it says alot for their PR teams ;-)

Unfortunately we have a senate voting system where one can be elected with only 3 to 5% of people actually voting for you. Guess who got 3%?

And she's there for another 5 years earning $180k plus allowances....

Edited November 1, 2014 by samran

[simple1]

Lambie is a buffoon who should not be in Federal parliament.

She ex-Army, appeals to a certain demographic through her wacky comments ... not my vote though.

You could rename her the Human Headline and not be to wide of the mark ...

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Yes, a demographic such the Australian Defence League (ADL). Those outstanding brave souls who threaten Muslim women in the streets, via social media and so on

[ClutchClark]

Actually Lambie was leveraging off a spoof US news website, The National Report. She took it seriously as she did when using an altered photo to justify banning the burka, from a far right website in the UK, of an Afghan police woman carrying a weapon, who was murdered by the Taliban - Lambie is a buffoon who should not be in Federal parliament.

Original news article in the Oz press at:

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/jacqui-lambie-questions-defence-officials-about-prospect-of-ebolainfected-suicide-agents-attacking-australia-20141022-119ve0.html

Aha, thanks for clarifying.

The US has its share of these types of politicians.

And they manage to win elections as well.

Doesn't say much for the voter or it says alot for their PR teams ;-)

Unfortunately we have a senate voting system where one can be elected with only 3 to 5% of people actually voting for you. Guess who got 3%?

And she's there for another 5 years earning $180k plus allowances....

You don't say?

Can Americans run for office?

I am ordering my "Vote for Clutch" bumper-stickers ordered at this very moment.

;-)

Edited November 1, 2014 by ClutchClark

[krisb]

The radical Islamic Jihadists would certainly use any weapon they can against the west, but unfortunately for them, Ebola is not suitable for weaponization.

Next ...

Agree.

Plus it's not their style. Not shocking enough.

Not sure any are smart enough to carry out disease attacks on a large scale.

Not shocking enough?

The Ebola virus is very much a part of the worlds psyche right now.

Countries are closing their borders for fear of even an accidental spread of the disease.

An intentional terrorist spread of Ebola would certainly be shocking.

Sure its shocking, but doubt any terrorists would use it, and doubt those isis twits would know how to spread it. They prefer rape, torture to instill fear.

Anyhow give it 6 months and isis will be all but dust. Aussie SAS among others are now on the ground over there obliterating them.

[JDGRUEN]

With respect, I'd hardly call David48 a left wing loony.

That particular epithet is saved for people like me from my stalkers.

But I think we can safely conclude "JDGRUEN's" favorite news channel is "FOX News"

I haven't watched FoxNews for many years... but not for the reasons that might agree with you. But when someone makes a post scoffing in a cavalier manner at the possibility of a terrorists attack using Ebola - I do have to question whether they sleep with a very liberal and naive pillow under their head...

[simple1]

The radical Islamic Jihadists would certainly use any weapon they can against the west, but unfortunately for them, Ebola is not suitable for weaponization.

Next ...

Agree.

Plus it's not their style. Not shocking enough.

Not sure any are smart enough to carry out disease attacks on a large scale.

Not shocking enough?

The Ebola virus is very much a part of the worlds psyche right now.

Countries are closing their borders for fear of even an accidental spread of the disease.

An intentional terrorist spread of Ebola would certainly be shocking.

Sure its shocking, but doubt any terrorists would use it, and doubt those isis twits would know how to spread it. They prefer rape, torture to instill fear.

Anyhow give it 6 months and isis will be all but dust. Aussie SAS among others are now on the ground over there obliterating them.

Sorry to disappoint, but Oz SF are still waiting in UAE (?). Media not providing the detail, but apparently some chain of command dispute with US military for operational deployment.

[Petchou]

Yes, they may attack thaivisa too lol.

Here are stats of victims of terrorism, Australia, Europe, north america are not really concerned (except for 9/11).

The most concerned are more middle East and African countries including Pakistan and Afghanistan.