British police examining Koh Tao murder probe to return to UK

[jdinasia]

Waiting for you to back up your accusation or apologize and drop it.

(your quotes are messed up)

[Mooner]

I'm not looking through to find your quotes tonight.

I'll get back to you

[retsdon]

I really hope that the UK police do their job and release all the information, good and bad, so we can have a better understanding of what really happened. I wait to see their final report and will draw my conclusions based on it. Now it is wait and see .....

One thing I would like to add...

I have always known that Thailand is a complete unorganized mess and that corruption is out of control. This case however reinforced this and made it very clear to me that I should rethink my future plans of living in Thailand. This country is ok until things go wrong and when they do they go very wrong. I have been lucky, as have others, but everyone has there day and I am sure given enough time something ugly will happen. I can not see the smile anymore.... Sad but true....

You just understand Thailand better than you thought you did, is all. Thailand is not what it seems - as the Thais themselves freely acknowledge.

<<<< Thai language removed >>>>.....is a standard Thai saying which translates as 'With Thai people ...you know the face but not the heart'.

Westerners come to Thailand like children. For children, the world is a magical place, full of promise where nothing really bad ever happens. But as they grow up and mature, they get to experience hate, ageing, bereavement, loss, etc, and slowly the realization dawns that, as the Buddha said, '...all life is suffering'. Call it gaining widom, or call it growing up, as we get older we nearly all experience it and become wiser and sadder.

if you stay in Thailand long enough, and get close enough to it, it will age and sadden you. Looked at from a certain perspective, the country is a perfect facsimile of life itself.

Edited November 12, 2014 by metisdead
Thai language edited out of post. This is an English language forum, English is the only acceptable language, except in the Thai language forum where Thai language is allowed.

[icare999]

It probably will be a "diplomatic" report. As the whole investigation was messed up big time there will be no reason to upset Thai authorities.

I wouldn't be that pessimistic

Anyway good there is another headline about this utterly evil case.

It should not disappear from headlines and from consciousness until it is properly solved and justice is done

If Thailand, her police and politicians lose face big time and much more - so be it. Well deserved

it will be totally forgotten n 6 months TIT same saw in UK evil case coverup of girl exploitation by Pakistan men id already forgotten so dont think were any better in west

[cookee68]

I read on Thai visa that the UK police had already returned, there's some crap go's on, with some people on this site, putting all that aside, let's hope that we can hear something new from their report, instead of half the crap we hear already, and without a lot of the Facebook shit that people spread

The facebook shit as you put it is more credible than anything on here. To post on the facebook shit you need to have your real name. Here you can be anything you want.

What a croc of shit, you don't need to have a real name to post on face book, my friends 10 year old son is on face book says hes 16 and uses another name, all you need is an email address, see that's face book shit for you there

[smokie36]

We are all still watching this with interest.

[wellred]

I read on Thai visa that the UK police had already returned, there's some crap go's on, with some people on this site, putting all that aside, let's hope that we can hear something new from their report, instead of half the crap we hear already, and without a lot of the Facebook shit that people spread

The facebook shit as you put it is more credible than anything on here. To post on the facebook shit you need to have your real name. Here you can be anything you want.

What a croc of shit, you don't need to have a real name to post on face book, my friends 10 year old son is on face book says hes 16 and uses another name, all you need is an email address, see that's face book shit for you there

Please expand on what rumours you have read on Facebook. If your referring to CSI La all I can see is a series of interpretations based on information made known to the public by RTP. Interpretations which have been well received by many including resident Thais.

Judging from your ability to construct a sentence I can see how that may be incomprehensible to you. Rest assured you are not the only one.

[Cake Monster]

Police Officers from the Met will file a report based purely upon the facts professionally gathered, that they have been able to accertain from their trip to Thailand.

Returning to the UK, the officers will meet with the families of Hannah and David to give them some consolation over the tragic and horrific deaths of their children.

This will surely give the families some kind of peace of mind, and some kind of closure to what has happened, and the parents would be the very last people on the planet to wish that wrong doing has been done over the investigation into their childrens deaths, and that possibly the wrong people are to be punished.

All these parents wish for is the truth about the sad ond tragic loss of their children, and the case to be as they are - dignified.

[changnaam]

Police Officers from the Met will file a report based purely upon the facts professionally gathered, that they have been able to accertain from their trip to Thailand.

Returning to the UK, the officers will meet with the families of Hannah and David to give them some consolation over the tragic and horrific deaths of their children.

This will surely give the families some kind of peace of mind, and some kind of closure to what has happened, and the parents would be the very last people on the planet to wish that wrong doing has been done over the investigation into their childrens deaths, and that possibly the wrong people are to be punished.

All these parents wish for is the truth about the sad ond tragic loss of their children, and the case to be as they are - dignified.

I can't see them being able to give much consolation to the parents myself......

Parents would like to hear that the RTP are doing their professional best to ensure their children's evil killers are brought to justice.

What they don't want to hear is that RTP are doing everything they can to protect their children's evil killers and their own corrupt system.

[joecoolfrog]

The report is unlikely to be complimentary , I would hazard a guess that the depth of criticism will depend on the result of the B2 trial.

A not guilty verdict might prompt a diplomaticly mild resonse , the reverse might just spark a flame.

[alanferdi]

I hope they release a full report on their findings and observations...

Justice is sweet!.... give it time. The British Police are not here to find fault with the way things are done.....they are here to expose. It will come in due time.

[oyster]

It probably will be a "diplomatic" report. As the whole investigation was messed up big time there will be no reason to upset Thai authorities.

For what it's worth - the word on the island is,

The pay off was 120m Bt.

The officer in charge has taken early retirement

And the son who gave the DNA sample was not the son in question.............

.... I would imagine the Mets were also made aware of the Blue Diamond case.

This is not a Thai knock - all countries run the rules to suit themselves.

When people with big money are concerned, might is right............

Edited November 12, 2014 by metisdead
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[jpeg]

Not if ALL the original samples were contaminated or fixed. I am far more concerned about the fate of the current suspects than I am about unearthing the truth. If the killers are "connected" then Thai reform has not moved far enough yet to have any hope of bringing them to justice but it is better that the crime go unsolved than to execute two young men on flawed evidence. Two unecessary deaths is awful but four would be too much to countenance. It would I feel be better to leave the crime unsolved for years - maybe until a time when a different type of investigation can be anticipated.

One question I have is what is a "headman" on the island - is it code for a mafia boss? If this government needs to tackle anything it is this culture that puts people with vast amounts of money "above the law"

Here we go again with Thai 'reform' and having not moved 'far enough yet'. Again. What 'reform'? Name ONE.

This word 'reform' is now a mantra repeated ad infinitum. Straight from the 'say something often enough and people will believe it' school. Even the usually timid Thai press are criticizing lack thereof, on a daily basis. And let us not forget who ordered the case be deflected from the headman's son.

I too am concerned re the fate of the two Burmese kids. But if I were a tourist or Koh Tao resident, I'd be even more concerned that killers are still on the loose.

[jpeg]

if you stay in Thailand long enough, and get close enough to it, it will age and sadden you.

Orrrrr, it will mature and strengthen you. H3ll, I could live anywhere in the World now

Edited November 12, 2014 by jpeg

[jpeg]

I'm not looking through to find your quotes tonight.

I'll get back to you

Could you pretty please with sugar on top do it via PM? We're all getting sick of this spammer poster

[heyexile]

It probably will be a "diplomatic" report. As the whole investigation was messed up big time there will be no reason to upset Thai authorities.

For what it's worth - the word on the island is,

The pay off was 120m Bt.

The officer in charge has taken early retirement

And the son who gave the DNA sample was not the son in question.............

.... I would imagine the Mets were also made aware of the Blue Diamond case.

This is not a Thai knock - all countries run the rules to suit themselves.

When people with big money are concerned, might is right............

Thanks. Which `officer in charge` took `early retirement¬? Name, title would be rather useful.

There have been I believe 3 officers in charge now but basically always good Ploice Commissioner General Somyot in charge from the top.

Not just big money, powerful connections and owed favours at the highest levels imo.

So good info, can you be more specific on yr source and really would like to know name,rank of officer in early retirement.Thanks

[jdinasia]

It probably will be a "diplomatic" report. As the whole investigation was messed up big time there will be no reason to upset Thai authorities.

For what it's worth - the word on the island is,

The pay off was 120m Bt.

The officer in charge has taken early retirement

And the son who gave the DNA sample was not the son in question.............

.... I would imagine the Mets were also made aware of the Blue Diamond case.

This is not a Thai knock - all countries run the rules to suit themselves.

When people with big money are concerned, might is right............

For what it is worth,

There is nothing factual in your post about the word on the island.

[BoristheBlade]

Interesting. I have thought for some time Nomsod's story was a diversion to distract attention away from another.

The other who was trespassing on a crime scene, and who threatened to kill a witness.

The other who refused to take a dna test.

It probably will be a "diplomatic" report. As the whole investigation was messed up big time there will be no reason to upset Thai authorities.

For what it's worth - the word on the island is,

The pay off was 120m Bt.

The officer in charge has taken early retirement

And the son who gave the DNA sample was not the son in question.............

.... I would imagine the Mets were also made aware of the Blue Diamond case.

This is not a Thai knock - all countries run the rules to suit themselves.

When people with big money are concerned, might is right............

[balo]

It probably will be a "diplomatic" report. As the whole investigation was messed up big time there will be no reason to upset Thai authorities.

For what it's worth - the word on the island is,

The pay off was 120m Bt.

The officer in charge has taken early retirement

And the son who gave the DNA sample was not the son in question.............

.... I would imagine the Mets were also made aware of the Blue Diamond case.

This is not a Thai knock - all countries run the rules to suit themselves.

When people with big money are concerned, might is right............

This is just BS again as always . The word is out that you're all a bunch of conspiracy theorists.

Give us the name of this early retired police officer and I will make sure that Bangkok will get notified to check if there's any truth in this!

Edited November 12, 2014 by metisdead

[catsanddogs]

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/775891-cib-police-commissioner-and-deputy-abruptly-transferred/

[BoristheBlade]

Is this the "reward" the General was talking about

Or did they get to friendly with the British?

I think these two let the Brits know too much

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/775891-cib-police-commissioner-and-deputy-abruptly-transferred/

Edited November 12, 2014 by BoristheBlade

[thailandchilli]

Is this the "reward" the General was talking about

Or did they get to friendly with the British?

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/775891-cib-police-commissioner-and-deputy-abruptly-transferred/

Does seem very coincidental. There's rumblings ahead

[jdinasia]

Could someone please show me any connection to the 2 men named above to the investigation in Koh Tao?

-AFAIK totally unrelated but I am willing to be corrected

[StealthEnergiser]

Could someone please show me any connection to the 2 men named above to the investigation in Koh Tao?

-AFAIK totally unrelated but I am willing to be corrected

sometime's you have to think outside the box

[jdinasia]

Could someone please show me any connection to the 2 men named above to the investigation in Koh Tao?

-AFAIK totally unrelated but I am willing to be corrected

sometime's you have to think outside the box

Huh?

Totally unrelated. Neither person transferred had anything to do with the investigation. In this case outside the box means conspiracy theory

[BoristheBlade]

So The Head of the CIB ( CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION DEPARTMENT) would have had no dealings with one of the biggest crime stories ( Koh Tao) to hit Thailand in recent years?....makes sense if you want to think like you do

Could someone please show me any connection to the 2 men named above to the investigation in Koh Tao?


-AFAIK totally unrelated but I am willing to be corrected

Edited November 12, 2014 by BoristheBlade

[thailandchilli]

So The Head of the CIB ( CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION DEPARTMENT) would have had no dealings with one of the biggest crime stories ( Koh Tao) to hit Thailand in recent years?....makes sense if you want to think like you do

Could someone please show me any connection to the 2 men named above to the investigation in Koh Tao?

-AFAIK totally unrelated but I am willing to be corrected

The UK police team of 3? where only in Koh Tao for a few days then to Bangkok where it is known and recorded that they had various conferences with the Bkk police. Its more than a feasible suggestion that they met or talked to these guys.

[jdinasia]

LOL

From Wikipedia

Central Investigation Bureau - national coordinating headquarters which assist provincial and metropolitan components in preventing and suppressing criminal activity and in minimizing threats to national security. Having jurisdiction over the entire country, the CIB was organized to assist both provincial and metropolitan components of the Royal Thai Police in preventing and suppressing criminal activity and in minimizing threats to national security.

[StealthEnergiser]

LOL

From Wikipedia

Central Investigation Bureau - national coordinating headquarters which assist provincial and metropolitan components in preventing and suppressing criminal activity and in minimizing threats to national security. Having jurisdiction over the entire country, the CIB was organized to assist both provincial and metropolitan components of the Royal Thai Police in preventing and suppressing criminal activity and in minimizing threats to national security.

What are you trying to say ?

[jdinasia]

LOL

From Wikipedia

Central Investigation Bureau - national coordinating headquarters which assist provincial and metropolitan components in preventing and suppressing criminal activity and in minimizing threats to national security. Having jurisdiction over the entire country, the CIB was organized to assist both provincial and metropolitan components of the Royal Thai Police in preventing and suppressing criminal activity and in minimizing threats to national security.

What are you trying to say ?

The CIB had no part in the investigation in Koh Tao.