Evolare Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 I find it strange that when looking at new cars in thailand in 2014 ABS brakes and even in some cases airbags are not standard. So forget about other security features. In many brands those features only come as standard in top model cars and luxury cars. As I have been buying and selling some secondhand cars here I'm now realizing why there are so many accidents and deaths here in traffic. Recently I bought a couple of izusu pickups that didn't have either so before selling them I equipped the cars with both airbags,ABS brakes and as these where x-cab I also equipped the rear seats with safety belts and and slim neckrest before selling them on as I find it irresponsible to sell cars without these features. I had not considered this before and am suprised this is not a concern that is discussed more considering the amount of deaths in traffic in thaiand or is it just me that have missed those discussions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ace of Pop Posted November 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2014 When Thais get these safety gizmoes the just drive faster.The Car doesn't cause accidents.Its the lack of Driver Training and Experience that Kills. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted November 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2014 You went to that expense to sell them on , when it would not make any difference to the sale value.........? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 I dont like ABS, it increases ones breaking distance.O.K for Novice Drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviss Geez Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Which new car in Thailand does not have ABS or an airbag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sviss Geez Posted November 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2014 (edited) You retro-fitted airbag systems into secondhand non-airbag vehicles? Really? Edited November 12, 2014 by Sviss Geez 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Which new car in Thailand does not have ABS or an airbag? I'm sure there are others but the Mitsu Triton only has drivers side airbag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 I dont like ABS, it increases ones breaking distance.O.K for Novice Drivers. It also prevents skidding on wet roads, or one wheel in the gravel and the others on the tarmac. Hardly just for the novice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 You retro-fitted airbag systems into secondhand non-airbag vehicles? Really? And apparently into a vehicle that was not designed for this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post seedy Posted November 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2014 You retro-fitted airbag systems into secondhand non-airbag vehicles? Really? Sure must have been expensive, what with slip rings, sensors, solenoid valves for each wheel, computer for ABS, different computer for engine management, new brake lines, airbag triggers, new steering wheel, new dash to accommodate passenger side airbag, ... How ever did you get your money back ? 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 If every car had ABS and Airbags, it still wouldn't make much of an impact on the road death stats, as around 85% of them are motorcycles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 I dont like ABS, it increases ones breaking distance.O.K for Novice Drivers. It also prevents skidding on wet roads, or one wheel in the gravel and the others on the tarmac. Hardly just for the novice. It enables a Novice Driver to Steer whilst panicking nothing more.Wet Road distance increased in st line emergecy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 I dont like ABS, it increases ones breaking distance.O.K for Novice Drivers. It also prevents skidding on wet roads, or one wheel in the gravel and the others on the tarmac. Hardly just for the novice. It enables a Novice Driver to Steer whilst panicking nothing more.Wet Road distance increased in st line emergecy. Yeah, well not every licenced driver does an advanced driving course, but if it bothers you so much have it disconnected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignis Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Which new car in Thailand does not have ABS or an airbag? Lots here [to name them all would be a very long list]......... Cars, Pickups, SUV'S, PPV's...... Most makes and Brand New within the last couple of year Do NOT have ABS and many NO airbags or just one... to have both in a New car you need to buy a top model. Sadly many buy the basic model with No safety at all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tom21 Posted November 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2014 the only reason they are fitted in other counties is they have to be. if they were allowed to be sold without them I would say most buyers would not have them 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinisaan Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Could you please let me know how to modify a Mitsu Strada L 200 with two airbags? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinisaan Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 You retro-fitted airbag systems into secondhand non-airbag vehicles? Really? And where's your work permit for doing so? I don't get it, as it must be really expensive. So why would you do that? Is it really true that there're people out there who think about others' safety? Just curious.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 (edited) I find it perfectly OK that additional safety comes at an optional premium. The 14 passengers at the back of the pcikup won't benefit from airbags anyway. Also, airbags need maintenance and have a good by date, I am very doubtful the new owners will see to proper maintenance. (I also know many cars in Thailand have their Airbags disabled to avoid having to replace them incase of minor impact, LOL) Edited November 12, 2014 by manarak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcopops Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 It's all to say ...and facile....to blame "Thai drivers" for the poor road safety situation in Thailand - there are MANY other factors and one of them is undoubtedly the poor safety standards required of vehicles on the road - both old and new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcopops Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Many of the vehicles built in Thailand for export have a much higher specification than the "same" models sold here and safety spec is one aspect of that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wprime Posted November 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2014 I dont like ABS, it increases ones breaking distance.O.K for Novice Drivers. Some people panic under pressure, even if they know how to correctly brake they may still lock the wheels without ABS. Statistically, ABS vehicles are far safer than non-ABS vehicles. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtjforyou Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 My benz sclass has all ! but not sure it is made in thailand though :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcopops Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I dont like ABS, it increases ones breaking distance.O.K for Novice Drivers. Not entirely true - in fact quite misleading. ABS increases braking distances on snow or loose surfaces. on normal road s it reduces it as wheels are only slowing the car effectively when they are not locked. Extra technology used now also helps directional control. there has been considerable research into how ABS affects the course of accidents and in general it is hugely beneficial. Any idea that it makes drivers go faster is totally unsupported by the evidence - most drivers don't even know what it is. I don't know if they still do but it was permitted in certain classes of solon car racing in Germany and the results were dramatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I dont like ABS, it increases ones breaking distance.O.K for Novice Drivers. Some people panic under pressure, even if they know how to correctly brake they may still lock the wheels without ABS. Statistically, ABS vehicles are far safer than non-ABS vehicles. I dont dispute they are generally safer, im saying for some drivers like myself they dont fit in with my/ our driving style, i find that clatter un nerving, miss the initial whack of first pressure, and driving on loose tracks they operate like a "bug in a fit". Stats prove rightly they do work for most drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I dont like ABS, it increases ones breaking distance.O.K for Novice Drivers. If you hit something it will still break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recycler Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 You can remove "cars made in" from the title of your post to cover the wider image of the situation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8OA8 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 My benz sclass has all ! but not sure it is made in thailand though :-) You should be able to tell by the service booklet, it will have a slip inside the last page with the build number on it. A few yers ago I opted for the German built car (E Class) and the price was just under 9% higher than if I was to buy the Thai built model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carter1882 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Anyone who would retrofit second hand vehicles for resale in this manner in Thailand should put a few baht aside - for the song thaew trip to the poorhouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey4u Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Could you please let me know how to modify a Mitsu Strada L 200 with two airbags? Trade it in on a new one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignis Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 You can remove "cars made in" from the title of your post to cover the wider image of the situation... Then you have to question the price... how can Toyota justify there price ? Most base models have No Airbags or ABS, other makes that are same size + cost less have both.. Even goes for something like the Altis top model has 2 airbags + ABS, just off hand comes to mind same class size Proton cost over 400,000 baht less and come with ABS, 2 Airbags, curtian Airbags and side airbags [total 10] Look at another way the top model Preve has 10 Airbags and ABS, or for the same price = base model Altis = NO Airbags or ABS This is just 2 makes of cars, but same on many Chevy Sonic No Airbags and No ABS for the same price you get a Suzuki Swift with Airbags and ABS and so the list is endless.. What get me Thailand exports many cars and Pickups every model MUST have ABS and Airbags...... In 2005 [cannot remember the extra] and 2008 when I bought a new SLX D-Max, if cost 30,000 baht extra to have the model with ABS and 2 Airbags.... that is NOT a huge difference but most save this money as not important and go without, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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