Sinsod or Dowry.. why the big deal ?

[fish fingers]

"Traditionally, what might be called a dowry is paid by the groom to the bride’s family. If your fiancée is Thai, this is an issue you may have to come to terms with and it is often a bone of contention for non-Thai men."

Read this on a website and I just wonder why anyone would complain about it - ok its a bit of a shock to have to shell out 1M plus baht but do we have any right to complain, we are marrying into a Thai family after all. And if its to do with being tight, don't forget all those little envelopes will make much or all of it back..

[weegee]

"little envelopes will make much or all of it back."

in your dreams.....

[pigeonjake]

must be that time of the month again,,

mind we havnt had the sin sot topic for a while,,

some will pay some wont,,,

next

[Bernard Flint]

Sounds a bit fishy, this does?????/

[BritManToo]

Happy to pay sin sot, in 1,000bht installments.

No need for any ceremony or monks.

[otocheater]

1. It is a Thais culture. (Normal for Thais)

2. It will show your stable life.(your back ground)

3. It can be guarantee for your future wife's family.(make sure you can look after their daughter)

4. It shows how much value of your future wife.(her basic life and job)

5. For the face if your future wife's family rich. (social life)

:-)

[happydude303]

F the sin sot , it's out of date old fashion a waste of my hard earned money, which I could be using for the future . Why Thais think that money grows on trees in western country's is beyond me...

[pigeonjake]

1. It is a Thais culture. (Normal for Thais)

2. It will show your stable life.(your back ground)

3. It can be guarantee for your future wife's family.(make sure you can look after their daughter)

4. It shows how much value of your future wife.(her basic life and job)

5. For the face if your future wife's family rich. (social life)

:-)

its also english culture for the father of the bride to pay for the weding,

but i suppose we are in thailand, we should go with there culture, is that what you are saying,,?

there was no way on this earth was i going to buy a wife,

my wife agreed with me,,

i said to her, darling its my job to take care of you and i will to the best of my ability,, and i have done for the last 8 years,

we have a great life together, a daughter, nice house, not flash just what we need,

we are happy and my wifes perents are happy that she is happy,

[otocheater]

F the sin sot , it's out of date old fashion a waste of my hard earned money, which I could be using for the future . Why Thais think that money grows on trees in western country's is beyond me...

Nobody thought money grows on the tree. How can thai guys get married then?

Most of my Thai friends married Thai guys got minimum 1million baht sin-sod excluded gold and etc.

I dont understand why some farang agaisnt to pay SinSod if they want to marry thai woman and this is a thai culture.

;-)

[otocheater]

1. It is a Thais culture. (Normal for Thais)

2. It will show your stable life.(your back ground)

3. It can be guarantee for your future wife's family.(make sure you can look after their daughter)

4. It shows how much value of your future wife.(her basic life and job)

5. For the face if your future wife's family rich. (social life)

:-)

its also english culture for the father of the bride to pay for the weding,

but i suppose we are in thailand, we should go with there culture, is that what you are saying,,?

there was no way on this earth was i going to buy a wife,

my wife agreed with me,,

i said to her, darling its my job to take care of you and i will to the best of my ability,, and i have done for the last 8 years,

we have a great life together, a daughter, nice house, not flash just what we need,

we are happy and my wifes perents are happy that she is happy,

Hahaha...3words [ya-ma-no]

[ukrules]

I heard this Sin Sod is a Thai thing. Not being a Thai I naturally have no interest in that.

[slipperylobster]

Always ask around my girlfriend how much the other Thai men paid for sin sod (to marry their wife). Next to nothing!!!

Nobody is paying the outlandish prices some of the folks on TV have paid. In fact, most of the people I ask just shrug and walk away. Not one baht. Many eloped. Many had kids and did the Buddha thing. But not one of them paid out more than the price of a wedding.

Funny, that.

My girlfriend was divorced. Her husband only contributed like 10,000 for a wedding party. She went to college, worked and bought a condo and a resort. Also inherited 18 rai. Guess who has all of that???? Not her.

Then, I said to her, how about when her two daughters want to get married. (18 and 23)? How much will you get in Sin Sod? She looked at me like I was crazy. She said...if somebody loved them and took care of them ...she would ask nothing. However, when her friends marry farangs....it goes crazy...houses, cars, 500,000 to a million. One old bat wanted 3 million !!!

Edited November 29, 2014 by slipperylobster

[inzman]

It's just a scam perpetuated on the unwary. Been married twice here, never been asked to pay money.

[happydude303]

F the sin sot , it's out of date old fashion a waste of my hard earned money, which I could be using for the future . Why Thais think that money grows on trees in western country's is beyond me...

Nobody thought money grows on the tree. How can thai guys get married then?

Most of my Thai friends married Thai guys got minimum 1million baht sin-sod excluded gold and etc.

I dont understand why some farang agaisnt to pay SinSod if they want to marry thai woman and this is a thai culture.

;-)

Actually in England we done away with all of that and both family's parents help pay for the wedding and help to start the bride and grooms future .if you give the children a good start then when it matters latter on they can support the family , and since when has any country give a dam about my English culture , people come here live here and bring all there shit from there country's here I don't even recognize my country any more Edited November 29, 2014 by happydude303

[happydude303]

In fact one of my Thai mates can't marry the girl he loves and she loves him because of the parents wanting this sin sot , so they are not thinking of the happiness of their children but only them selfs , not following the Buddhist way

Edited November 29, 2014 by happydude303

[Farma]

Different families have different ideas.

Dowry at my wedding was a mix of cash, gold and chanotes placed on display (for show only, all returned afterwards)

Father in law gave me a 5 baht gold chain with Buddha during the morning ceremony.

Cash from envelopes more than covered the costs of morning ceremony and 300+ guests at the evening ceremony held in a hotel ballroom.

But then again i know of others who have paid a large cash dowry to the inlaws, bought houses and cars when getting married.

There's even a woman in our neighbourhood who's made a tidy profit by having village only weddings with at least 3 gullible farangs, then dumped and had them run out of town by family members months later once the farangs bought cars house etc for her.

[brewsterbudgen]

F the sin sot , it's out of date old fashion a waste of my hard earned money, which I could be using for the future . Why Thais think that money grows on trees in western country's is beyond me...

It has nothing to do with "western countries", it's a Thai tradition. No one is forced to pay, but quite why someone would want to marry a Thai, in Thailand and then not respect their traditions I have no idea.

[simon43]

Otocheater, I assume you are Thai?

My first Thai wife received a sinsot of about 2 million baht. She then cheated on me with a Thai man and I divorced her.

In your view, should she repay the sinsot to me? And if not, why not?

Just for the record, I was a good husband and never cheated on her.

[otocheater]

Otocheater, I assume you are Thai?

My first Thai wife received a sinsot of about 2 million baht. She then cheated on me with a Thai man and I divorced her.

In your view, should she repay the sinsot to me? And if not, why not?

Just for the record, I was a good husband and never cheated on her.

Yes I am Thai,

You can sue her under Thai law for cheating. Its a morality law. And you also can sue the guy who bang your wife too.

The money you will get from them the court will see from your back ground, based on your life and the face on social life. If you are HiSo you can sue them more than you gave to your wife.

:-)

Edited November 29, 2014 by otocheater

[simon43]

You can sue her under Thai law for cheating. Its a morality law. And you also can sue the guy who bang your wife too.

Yes, I know all that. 'Water under the bridge' as they say. Many years ago now.

But you didn't answer my question, did you?

[otocheater]

You can sue her under Thai law for cheating. Its a morality law. And you also can sue the guy who bang your wife too.

Yes, I know all that. 'Water under the bridge' as they say. Many years ago now.

But you didn't answer my question, did you?

My answer is... If i were cheating on my husband I will pay husband double of SinSod for divorce because the guy who can made me cheat on my husband will have to be 10times better than him.

PS. I will go with my new husband and give him cash infront of everyone. And say"Tip 4millions baht for you"

:-)

[cornishcarlos]

Not sure how it works all over Thailand, but myself and some of my wife's friends paid but got it back straight away. Seems the more modern way to keep everyone happy.

Thais pay big sin sod too, just depends what class you marry into.

If you are marrying a rice farmers daughter the price for some reason would be less than marrying into a family of doctors.. Just an example.

I wouldn't have paid if it wasn't coming straight back to us

[BritManToo]

F the sin sot , it's out of date old fashion a waste of my hard earned money, which I could be using for the future . Why Thais think that money grows on trees in western country's is beyond me...

It has nothing to do with "western countries", it's a Thai tradition. No one is forced to pay, but quite why someone would want to marry a Thai, in Thailand and then not respect their traditions I have no idea.

Village ceremony, payments and party is not marriage in Thailand.

Marriage is done at the Amphur office.

[EyesWideOpen]

Ah the old sin sod chestnut, always amusing to see how different groups have different

viewpoints. If you want to go with the Thai tradition viewpoint, that is fine. So if your new

Thai girlfriend is a 21 year old virgin that went to Uni and has a powerful family, time to

pay up. If your bargirl Thai girlfriend is 30 years old, has two kids back at the village,

and her family lives in a shack, by Thai tradition, time to pay .....wait for it....... nothing.

Everytime I see a sin sod thread, it always reminds me of the Aesop's fable of The fox

with no tail......Those that have paid sin sod will try to convince others to do it. :-)

It happened that a Fox caught its tail in a trap, and in struggling to release himself lost all of it but the stump. At first he was ashamed to show himself among his fellow foxes. But at last he determined to put a bolder face upon his misfortune, and summoned all the foxes to a general meeting to consider a proposal which he had to place before them. When they had assembled together the Fox proposed that they should all do away with their tails. He pointed out how inconvenient a tail was when
they were pursued by their enemies, the dogs; how much it was in the way when they desired to sit down and hold a friendly conversation with one another. He failed to see any advantage in carrying about such a useless encumbrance.

"That is all very well," said one of the older foxes; "but I do not think you would have recommended us to dispense with our chief ornament if you had not happened to lose it yourself."

Edited November 29, 2014 by EyesWideOpen

[Somsrisonphimai]

It's just a scam perpetuated on the unwary. Been married twice here, never been asked to pay money.

Does your wife sending money to her parents? If so, that is another form of sin sort you pay.

[Scully]

It's just a scam perpetuated on the unwary. Been married twice here, never been asked to pay money.

Does your wife sending money to her parents? If so, that is another form of sin sort you pay.

Is that because you have a farang husband funding your kids and family?.

If not why assume others are?.

[fatfather]

F the sin sot , it's out of date old fashion a waste of my hard earned money, which I could be using for the future . Why Thais think that money grows on trees in western country's is beyond me...

It is not out of date. It may be strange for you, but you can't expect that Thais adapt to your style. Who are you?

Fatfather

[Amavel]

I simply replaced my wife's income to her family for 5 years. It is like a form of social security. It costme about the same as an engagement ring with my first wife in US. Just lay it all out so there are no surprises later about what you will and will not do. I also stipulated I would never give a loan to the family...for any reason.

13 years later, I am never happier and I love her family. They still have never asked for money, so I get the pleasure of surprising them occasionally. And I did pay for my sister in laws cancer surgery without any hesitation.

[benalibina]

It's just a scam perpetuated on the unwary. Been married twice here, never been asked to pay money.

Does your wife sending money to her parents? If so, that is another form of sin sort you pay.

Thanks, i can sleep normal again.

[happydude303]

F the sin sot , it's out of date old fashion a waste of my hard earned money, which I could be using for the future . Why Thais think that money grows on trees in western country's is beyond me...

It is not out of date. It may be strange for you, but you can't expect that Thais adapt to your style. Who are you?

Fatfather[/

F the sin sot , it's out of date old fashion a waste of my hard earned money, which I could be using for the future . Why Thais think that money grows on trees in western country's is beyond me...

It is not out of date. It may be strange for you, but you can't expect that Thais adapt to your style. Who are you?

Fatfather

Im a guy who is set to be Married spending a lot of time with her and her family , they respect my beliefs as well and know that I will look after them and her , I've helped pay medical bills a few times for her mum and done a lot for the young nephews even thou I'm not married to her yet , I've proved my worth to that family and I don't need to do that .

And why can't you expect them to adapt, what about my family's beliefs back home , is that not important or is it all one sided , my choice and my mrs choice , up to you what you do or believe