Just bought an Isuzu Vcross space cab 2.5 4wd. Why do Thais go for the 2wd?

[mogandave]

it is however no coincidence that the dreadful road death figures in Thailand that the country also has a disproportionate number of vehicles - 2 and 4 wheel that simply are not of the highest safety specification.

If you subtract motorcycle deaths, Thailand ranks about the same as New Zealand. We are talking about cars right?

Actually, because motorcycles are less massive, they must by definition be safer.

[stevenl]

it is however no coincidence that the dreadful road death figures in Thailand that the country also has a disproportionate number of vehicles - 2 and 4 wheel that simply are not of the highest safety specification.

If you subtract motorcycle deaths, Thailand ranks about the same as New Zealand. We are talking about cars right?

Actually, because motorcycles are less massive, they must by definition be safer.

Yep, make all cars open, remove the safety belts, airbags and crumple zones, and driving will get a lot safer again.

[Ace of Pop]

Amazed New Zealanders had time to drive.Thought they all walked round with Geiger Counters trowing stones at Nuclear Powered Ships and planing how to Escape to Ozz.

[wilcopops]

Amazed New Zealanders had time to drive.Thought they all walked round with Geiger Counters trowing stones at Nuclear Powered Ships and planing how to Escape to Ozz.

you know what they say about new Zealanders who move to Oz? - the result is the average IQ of both countries goes up.

[wilcopops]

it is however no coincidence that the dreadful road death figures in Thailand that the country also has a disproportionate number of vehicles - 2 and 4 wheel that simply are not of the highest safety specification.

If you subtract motorcycle deaths, Thailand ranks about the same as New Zealand. We are talking about cars right?

Actually, because motorcycles are less massive, they must by definition be safer.

Yep, make all cars open, remove the safety belts, airbags and crumple zones, and driving will get a lot safer again.

yes - all the figures for the last 60 years back that one up............????

[wilcopops]

it is however no coincidence that the dreadful road death figures in Thailand that the country also has a disproportionate number of vehicles - 2 and 4 wheel that simply are not of the highest safety specification.

If you subtract motorcycle deaths, Thailand ranks about the same as New Zealand. We are talking about cars right?

NZ isn't a very good apple to compare with this pork pie - actually that has already been discussed at length elsewhere - your assumption isn't true - although a lot of deaths are on motorcycles - they have a dreadful safety status - even if you compare car for car Thailand is a poor performer. BTW - deaths aren't the only criteria - try looking up collisions, single car incidents etc...in single car incidents pickups, SUVs and 4x4s perform particularly badly.You should also bear in mind that the standard of vehicles in NZ is quite poor too. Oz and the US also perform vey badly in general driving skills and road safety. Low traffic levels long distances, cruise control etc all contribute to "lazy" driving habits.

[wilcopops]

unfortunately road safety falls into the same category as education...everyone thinks they are an expert and they roll out the same cliches time after time. most are ill-informed tenets based on pseudo-physics and preconception.

the science of what happens in a road incident - whether single vehicle or multiple is a varied as the number of vehicles, trying to draw rules and conclusions by looking at one single component - e.g. the size of a wheel - is anal in the extreme and really sums up much of the thinking - or lack of it - on this topic.

it is however no coincidence that the dreadful road death figures in Thailand that the country also has a disproportionate number of vehicles - 2 and 4 wheel that simply are not of the highest safety specification.

Thanks wilcopops.....

You're always interesting and entertaining......

Sometimes you're even correct - seem to have a degree in anality.....

I'll stop here so you can have the last word - you seem to need that & I like to help the needy.....

Keep spluttering....

sorry if I made you look stupid.

[IMHO]

it is however no coincidence that the dreadful road death figures in Thailand that the country also has a disproportionate number of vehicles - 2 and 4 wheel that simply are not of the highest safety specification.

If you subtract motorcycle deaths, Thailand ranks about the same as New Zealand. We are talking about cars right?

NZ isn't a very good apple to compare with this pork pie - actually that has already been discussed at length elsewhere - your assumption isn't true - although a lot of deaths are on motorcycles - they have a dreadful safety status - even if you compare car for car Thailand is a poor performer. BTW - deaths aren't the only criteria - try looking up collisions, single car incidents etc...in single car incidents pickups, SUVs and 4x4s perform particularly badly.You should also bear in mind that the standard of vehicles in NZ is quite poor too. Oz and the US also perform vey badly in general driving skills and road safety. Low traffic levels long distances, cruise control etc all contribute to "lazy" driving habits.

Well if NZ, AU and the USA are just as bad as TH*, I guess that makes it better somehow

* So long as you drive a car

What assumption do you think I'm making BTW? Averages are 25K deaths, 83% of them motorbikes, with 66M population. It's just math to compare to other countries, no?

Edited December 10, 2014 by IMHO

[pgrahmm]

unfortunately road safety falls into the same category as education...everyone thinks they are an expert and they roll out the same cliches time after time. most are ill-informed tenets based on pseudo-physics and preconception.

the science of what happens in a road incident - whether single vehicle or multiple is a varied as the number of vehicles, trying to draw rules and conclusions by looking at one single component - e.g. the size of a wheel - is anal in the extreme and really sums up much of the thinking - or lack of it - on this topic.

it is however no coincidence that the dreadful road death figures in Thailand that the country also has a disproportionate number of vehicles - 2 and 4 wheel that simply are not of the highest safety specification.

Thanks wilcopops.....

You're always interesting and entertaining......

Sometimes you're even correct - seem to have a degree in anality.....

I'll stop here so you can have the last word - you seem to need that & I like to help the needy.....

Keep spluttering....

sorry if I made you look stupid.

If you really wish to understand and see stupid - just look in the mirror.....

If you wish to display it - keep entertaining us.....

You're fun to watch....even though you try not to be.....

[Ace of Pop]

Like loved Jet boat rides Driving on road trips was tame after that

[wilcopops]

QED

it is however no coincidence that the dreadful road death figures in Thailand that the country also has a disproportionate number of vehicles - 2 and 4 wheel that simply are not of the highest safety specification.

If you subtract motorcycle deaths, Thailand ranks about the same as New Zealand. We are talking about cars right?

NZ isn't a very good apple to compare with this pork pie - actually that has already been discussed at length elsewhere - your assumption isn't true - although a lot of deaths are on motorcycles - they have a dreadful safety status - even if you compare car for car Thailand is a poor performer. BTW - deaths aren't the only criteria - try looking up collisions, single car incidents etc...in single car incidents pickups, SUVs and 4x4s perform particularly badly.You should also bear in mind that the standard of vehicles in NZ is quite poor too. Oz and the US also perform vey badly in general driving skills and road safety. Low traffic levels long distances, cruise control etc all contribute to "lazy" driving habits.

Well if NZ, AU and the USA are just as bad as TH*, I guess that makes it better somehow

* So long as you drive a car

What assumption do you think I'm making BTW? Averages are 25K deaths, 83% of them motorbikes, with 66M population. It's just math to compare to other countries, no?

[mogandave]

it is however no coincidence that the dreadful road death figures in Thailand that the country also has a disproportionate number of vehicles - 2 and 4 wheel that simply are not of the highest safety specification.

If you subtract motorcycle deaths, Thailand ranks about the same as New Zealand. We are talking about cars right?

NZ isn't a very good apple to compare with this pork pie - actually that has already been discussed at length elsewhere - your assumption isn't true - although a lot of deaths are on motorcycles - they have a dreadful safety status - even if you compare car for car Thailand is a poor performer. BTW - deaths aren't the only criteria - try looking up collisions, single car incidents etc...in single car incidents pickups, SUVs and 4x4s perform particularly badly.You should also bear in mind that the standard of vehicles in NZ is quite poor too. Oz and the US also perform vey badly in general driving skills and road safety. Low traffic levels long distances, cruise control etc all contribute to "lazy" driving habits.

Still waiting for your numbers and studies...

[wilcopops]

unfortunately road safety falls into the same category as education...everyone thinks they are an expert and they roll out the same cliches time after time. most are ill-informed tenets based on pseudo-physics and preconception.

the science of what happens in a road incident - whether single vehicle or multiple is a varied as the number of vehicles, trying to draw rules and conclusions by looking at one single component - e.g. the size of a wheel - is anal in the extreme and really sums up much of the thinking - or lack of it - on this topic.

it is however no coincidence that the dreadful road death figures in Thailand that the country also has a disproportionate number of vehicles - 2 and 4 wheel that simply are not of the highest safety specification.

Thanks wilcopops.....

You're always interesting and entertaining......

Sometimes you're even correct - seem to have a degree in anality.....

I'll stop here so you can have the last word - you seem to need that & I like to help the needy.....

Keep spluttering....

sorry if I made you look stupid.

If you really wish to understand and see stupid - just look in the mirror.....

If you wish to display it - keep entertaining us.....

You're fun to watch....even though you try not to be.....

It seems you don't realise that when I look in a mirror I don't see the same as you do.....it changes, you see.......

[stevenl]

unfortunately road safety falls into the same category as education...everyone thinks they are an expert and they roll out the same cliches time after time. most are ill-informed tenets based on pseudo-physics and preconception.

the science of what happens in a road incident - whether single vehicle or multiple is a varied as the number of vehicles, trying to draw rules and conclusions by looking at one single component - e.g. the size of a wheel - is anal in the extreme and really sums up much of the thinking - or lack of it - on this topic.

it is however no coincidence that the dreadful road death figures in Thailand that the country also has a disproportionate number of vehicles - 2 and 4 wheel that simply are not of the highest safety specification.

Thanks wilcopops.....

You're always interesting and entertaining......

Sometimes you're even correct - seem to have a degree in anality.....

I'll stop here so you can have the last word - you seem to need that & I like to help the needy.....

Keep spluttering....

sorry if I made you look stupid.

If you really wish to understand and see stupid - just look in the mirror.....

If you wish to display it - keep entertaining us.....

You're fun to watch....even though you try not to be.....

It seems you don't realise that when I look in a mirror I don't see the same as you do.....it changes, you see.......

Oh, Jekyll and Hyde.

[Ace of Pop]

Looks like Stevens P.C failed the Crash Test. Of topic, but more interesting , what causes the above. My Phone sometimes does the same.

[wilcopops]

it is however no coincidence that the dreadful road death figures in Thailand that the country also has a disproportionate number of vehicles - 2 and 4 wheel that simply are not of the highest safety specification.

If you subtract motorcycle deaths, Thailand ranks about the same as New Zealand. We are talking about cars right?

NZ isn't a very good apple to compare with this pork pie - actually that has already been discussed at length elsewhere - your assumption isn't true - although a lot of deaths are on motorcycles - they have a dreadful safety status - even if you compare car for car Thailand is a poor performer. BTW - deaths aren't the only criteria - try looking up collisions, single car incidents etc...in single car incidents pickups, SUVs and 4x4s perform particularly badly.You should also bear in mind that the standard of vehicles in NZ is quite poor too. Oz and the US also perform vey badly in general driving skills and road safety. Low traffic levels long distances, cruise control etc all contribute to "lazy" driving habits.

Still waiting for your numbers and studies...

You do realise that your post isn't actually an argument?

you obviously haven't read my earlier posts.

Edited December 11, 2014 by wilcopops

[stevenl]

Looks like Stevens P.C failed the Crash Test. Of topic, but more interesting , what causes the above. My Phone sometimes does the same.

Naw, TV App.

[pgrahmm]

NZ isn't a very good apple to compare with this pork pie - actually that has already been discussed at length elsewhere - your assumption isn't true - although a lot of deaths are on motorcycles - they have a dreadful safety status - even if you compare car for car Thailand is a poor performer. BTW - deaths aren't the only criteria - try looking up collisions, single car incidents etc...in single car incidents pickups, SUVs and 4x4s perform particularly badly.You should also bear in mind that the standard of vehicles in NZ is quite poor too. Oz and the US also perform vey badly in general driving skills and road safety. Low traffic levels long distances, cruise control etc all contribute to "lazy" driving habits.

If you subtract motorcycle deaths, Thailand ranks about the same as New Zealand. We are talking about cars right?

Still waiting for your numbers and studies...

You do realise that your post isn't actually an argument?

you obviously haven't read my earlier posts.

[mogandave]

Still waiting for your numbers and studies...

You do realise that your post isn't actually an argument?

you obviously haven't read my earlier posts.

You obviously haven't read my earlier posts. I'm not making an argument, I'm waiting for you to support yours. So far you're done nothing but play a lot of tired chin-music.

[wilcopops]

Still waiting for your numbers and studies...

You do realise that your post isn't actually an argument?

you obviously haven't read my earlier posts.

You obviously haven't read my earlier posts. I'm not making an argument, I'm waiting for you to support yours. So far you're done nothing but play a lot of tired chin-music.

then read my posts!

[mogandave]

Still waiting for your numbers and studies...

You do realise that your post isn't actually an argument?

you obviously haven't read my earlier posts.

You obviously haven't read my earlier posts. I'm not making an argument, I'm waiting for you to support yours. So far you're done nothing but play a lot of tired chin-music.

then read my posts!

That's what I thought, weak.