Guitar God Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 What variety of grass is best for Issan and/or what variety is the sod they use here? I've had sod laid but I'm not happy with all the bare areas between the small squares of sod and I'd like to obtain some grass seed in my travels to fill in the bare areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IMHO Posted December 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2014 There are two main types in TH: Japanese narrow leaf, and Malay broad leaf. The former is best for areas that will get full sun, the latter best for areas that get little sun. Both types need plenty of water, just the same. If you're filling in patches, you'll want the same type as you already have, no? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AyG Posted December 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2014 Don't bother getting grass seed. It's extremely difficult to get it to grow - needs constant moisture. You'll probably end up wasting your money. That's why grass here is virtually always from turf. Give it a few weeks and the grass will grow over the gaps. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonfly94 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I think Malaysian grass does the best especially round a house, normal grass goes patchy without full sun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 We replaced our narrow leaf with the broad leaf variety. Our gardener came with 3 helpers, dug up all the old grass, rolled out the new turf, all for a total of 1400 baht. Best money I ever spent, the new grass looks great, even in the more shaded areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenial Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Interesting, ive been looking at grass lately, Japanese what is the approx cost for 2400SQM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weegee Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) Interesting, ive been looking at grass lately, Japanese what is the approx cost for 2400SQM? Here, around 35baht per square mtr....Fully down and rolled. Edited December 18, 2014 by weegee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnehaha Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Anyone ever grown grass on a large balcony of their condo? I've got the space for it and would love to see some green and feel it under the feet. Sounds cheaper than other options (other than tiles) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 From Soi 5 to 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenial Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 turf or seed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUAHIN62 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Interesting, ive been looking at grass lately, Japanese what is the approx cost for 2400SQM? I think you are getting ripped off, we bought for B 80 sqm 2 years back. We also converted from thin leaved to the broad leave grass. The thin leave are however more hardy and take drought and extreme heat better. The reason we got rid of it was that it grows into flower beds and are difficult to get rid of once in. We spray the thin leaved grass with a herbicide then waited 10 days and sprayed the regrowth. After that we laid the sod's on top of the now dead grass. Even after this there were patches where the old grass grew again. After about 6 months we got the thin leaved grass totally out. I have found that the broad leave grass don't like too much fertilizer and we only use a slow release (non urea based) fertilizer that don't burn the grass roots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucefarang Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 In South Africa my brother has a slow growing type of grass (1/2 inch a year) rye based I think-don't know whether it will do here in Thailand but when I get round to a lawn I'll give it a go and let you know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenial Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Interesting, ive been looking at grass lately, Japanese what is the approx cost for 2400SQM? I think you are getting ripped off, we bought for B 80 sqm 2 years back. We also converted from thin leaved to the broad leave grass. The thin leave are however more hardy and take drought and extreme heat better. The reason we got rid of it was that it grows into flower beds and are difficult to get rid of once in. We spray the thin leaved grass with a herbicide then waited 10 days and sprayed the regrowth. After that we laid the sod's on top of the now dead grass. Even after this there were patches where the old grass grew again. After about 6 months we got the thin leaved grass totally out. I have found that the broad leave grass don't like too much fertilizer and we only use a slow release (non urea based) fertilizer that don't burn the grass roots. i have not purchased yet, i enquired to the approx cost for my garden which is 2400SQM . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUAHIN62 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Interesting, ive been looking at grass lately, Japanese what is the approx cost for 2400SQM? I think you are getting ripped off, we bought for B 80 sqm 2 years back. We also converted from thin leaved to the broad leave grass. The thin leave are however more hardy and take drought and extreme heat better. The reason we got rid of it was that it grows into flower beds and are difficult to get rid of once in. We spray the thin leaved grass with a herbicide then waited 10 days and sprayed the regrowth. After that we laid the sod's on top of the now dead grass. Even after this there were patches where the old grass grew again. After about 6 months we got the thin leaved grass totally out. I have found that the broad leave grass don't like too much fertilizer and we only use a slow release (non urea based) fertilizer that don't burn the grass roots. i have not purchased yet, i enquired to the approx cost for my garden which is 2400SQM . Sorry miss read your post. I forgot, when you buy the sod's you must check everyone for weeds. We had some suppliers which had more weeds than grass in their sods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Northern Lights or Acapulco Gold when i was Young. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jip99 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Interesting, ive been looking at grass lately, Japanese what is the approx cost for 2400SQM? I think you are getting ripped off, we bought for B 80 sqm 2 years back. We also converted from thin leaved to the broad leave grass. The thin leave are however more hardy and take drought and extreme heat better. The reason we got rid of it was that it grows into flower beds and are difficult to get rid of once in. We spray the thin leaved grass with a herbicide then waited 10 days and sprayed the regrowth. After that we laid the sod's on top of the now dead grass. Even after this there were patches where the old grass grew again. After about 6 months we got the thin leaved grass totally out. I have found that the broad leave grass don't like too much fertilizer and we only use a slow release (non urea based) fertilizer that don't burn the grass roots. i have not purchased yet, i enquired to the approx cost for my garden which is 2400SQM . Depends on type, quality and where you purchase from. I bought 800 sqm a few months ago from Nakhon Nayok for 15 Baht/sqm. I paid a further 4,000 Baht delivery to Buriram and the turf arrived in a Toyota pick up. One would assume that for 2,400 Baht it may be possible to use a larger vehicle and pay, say, 8,000 Baht as an equivalent (I don't know where you based). As a simple answer to your question it is likely to be circa 36,000/48,000 Baht for the turf + delivery + labour costs for preparation and laying, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenial Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Robson Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 In South Africa my brother has a slow growing type of grass (1/2 inch a year) rye based I think-don't know whether it will do here in Thailand but when I get round to a lawn I'll give it a go and let you know! Surprised I haven't seen Kikuyu grass here, but it would rapidly become invasive. In SA ours grew 1" a week, two with the rains! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weegee Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Interesting, ive been looking at grass lately, Japanese what is the approx cost for 2400SQM? I think you are getting ripped off, we bought for B 80 sqm 2 years back. We also converted from thin leaved to the broad leave grass. The thin leave are however more hardy and take drought and extreme heat better. The reason we got rid of it was that it grows into flower beds and are difficult to get rid of once in. We spray the thin leaved grass with a herbicide then waited 10 days and sprayed the regrowth. After that we laid the sod's on top of the now dead grass. Even after this there were patches where the old grass grew again. After about 6 months we got the thin leaved grass totally out. I have found that the broad leave grass don't like too much fertilizer and we only use a slow release (non urea based) fertilizer that don't burn the grass roots. Just a quick one (Off topic)....Use NPK fertilizer every 2-3 months(Viking Brand 16, 16 ,16),.. Also, Urea is to make the grass green...but use sparingly and really water in straight away.... Sorry millenial, I will now stay on topic .. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhnomKhnom Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 We replaced our narrow leaf with the broad leaf variety. Our gardener came with 3 helpers, dug up all the old grass, rolled out the new turf, all for a total of 1400 baht. Best money I ever spent, the new grass looks great, even in the more shaded areas. Hey, just hire a gardener...... hee hee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhnomKhnom Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Best question and answer in weeks........... and where are those posting hate for grass ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman20 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> We replaced our narrow leaf with the broad leaf variety. Our gardener came with 3 helpers, dug up all the old grass, rolled out the new turf, all for a total of 1400 baht. Best money I ever spent, the new grass looks great, even in the more shaded areas. any chance your gardener would replace my lawn ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheshiremusicman Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 There are two main types in TH: Japanese narrow leaf, and Malay broad leaf. The former is best for areas that will get full sun, the latter best for areas that get little sun. Both types need plenty of water, just the same. If you're filling in patches, you'll want the same type as you already have, no? Don't, whatever you do get 'Bermuda'. I made this mistake and I'm thinking of digging it all up after nearly 8 years of TLC. It takes an awful lot of looking after with regular cutting/fertilising and watering. The 'Japanese' grass looks to grow beautifully and when given a decent haircut looks better than Bermuda. I've always been into my 'Lawns', but made one hell of a 'boobu' with this decision. Anybody got any ideas about the cost of the 'Japanese' in the Hua-Hin area please? I will probably need some 500+sq m of turf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitar God Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 I think we paid 35฿ a square. I think its's per m2. That included delivery and installation with one foreman and two laborers. It must have been the laborers first job because I heard the foreman keep yelling "Dan si khiao khun". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperylobster Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Acapulco Gold... That's prefect for an afternoon out on the lawn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony5 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 We replaced our narrow leaf with the broad leaf variety. Our gardener came with 3 helpers, dug up all the old grass, rolled out the new turf, all for a total of 1400 baht. Best money I ever spent, the new grass looks great, even in the more shaded areas. 1400 Baht all in for all the work you mention? I bet you need a motorized lawn mower to cut that huge lawn you must have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony5 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Interesting, ive been looking at grass lately, Japanese what is the approx cost for 2400SQM? I think you are getting ripped off, we bought for B 80 sqm 2 years back. If you had taken the time to properly read Millenial's post, and the other posts in this thread concerning the price, you would be aware that it is you who got ripped off at 80 Bht/m² 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebike Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) Don't, whatever you do get 'Bermuda'. I made this mistake and I'm thinking of digging it all up after nearly 8 years of TLC. It takes an awful lot of looking after with regular cutting/fertilising and watering. The 'Japanese' grass looks to grow beautifully and when given a decent haircut looks better than Bermuda. I've always been into my 'Lawns', but made one hell of a 'boobu' with this decision. Anybody got any ideas about the cost of the 'Japanese' in the Hua-Hin area please? I will probably need some 500+sq m of turf.Lived for 3 years in a villa in Phuket which had over a rai of the most beautiful, lush Bermuda grass I've felt under my toes.... It was about 10 years old and doing awesome!Edit: while we lived there regular watering, weeding and cutting was all that was required... never fertilized. Edited December 19, 2014 by mikebike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualbiker Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Do you have thai name for this grass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alantheembalmer Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Anyone ever grown grass on a large balcony of their condo? I've got the space for it and would love to see some green and feel it under the feet. Sounds cheaper than other options (other than tiles) Someone in my condo building did just this, but had to take it all up again when the balcony drains got blocked and the apartment underneath got flooded. It's not a good idea, because of watering, drainage and lack of under soil, but if you do want to go ahead make sure you get the owners/condo management agreement first. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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