Yingluck 'failed to address issues'

[Lite Beer]

Yingluck 'failed to address issues'
The Nation

Former Democrat MP Warong Dechgitvigrom has expressed his dissatisfaction with former premier Yingluck Shinawatra's defence of her government's rice-pledging scheme before the National Legislative Assembly (NLA) yesterday.

Yingluck has been accused of dereliction of duty for allowing corruption and causing billions of baht in losses.

He said the former PM failed to explain herself on the allegation and deviated from the main reasons for the impeachment hearing.

Warong, a key figure grilling Yingluck in a censure debate over the rice-pledging, said Yingluck was trying to draw attention to an old story about assisting farmers to have better living conditions. "No one denies that farmers need immediate assistance. The problem is the mismanagement of the rice-pledging scheme, which caused severe losses to the farmers," Warong said.

He rebutted the former PM's statement that the impeachment could be considered a great challenge to the country's reconciliation and reform process.

Warong said the reform process and the impeachment proceedings should not be confused. "By citing the reconciliation and reform process in her conclusions, the former PM seems to ignore her own responsibility", Warong said.

"If the members of the NLA would like to perform their role in putting the country back on the right track, the impeachment of a wrongdoer would show the supremacy of the law", Warong stated.

However, the former premier's legal team was satisfied with Yingluck's clarification to the NLA. Pichit Chuenban, chief adviser to the Pheu thai legal team, said that Yinluck had addressed all the key points. He said her legal team was more concerned about pressure on the NLA to impeach the former premier. He did not say whether the former premier would attend the NLA hearing next Friday.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Yingluck-failed-to-address-issues-30251638.html

-- The Nation 2015-01-10

[thesetat2013]

So basically she averted the topics with double talk typical of a politician.

Did you attend any meetings about the the rice scheme Mrs. YL?

Answer: the rice scheme was needed to help the farmers. You should be careful about continuing this impeachment as it may upset the happiness of the people. Hehee!

Funny how yesterday's news was her lawyers comments how well she did at that hearing and how well she defended herself. I understand that press release was done by her lawyers. Did she think the truth would not come out about how she averted the main reason for her presence there? What a twit.

[The stuttering parrot]

Supremacy of the law?

More like supremacy of the junta!

She hasn't fled there's been no tears just grace and dignity and this farce is only going to make her more popular than ever before no matter which way it goes.

The self proclaimed peoples champion hides behind a monks robe ignoring court summonses and currying favour for his divisive efforts in bringing down Thailands elected government while this lady stands face to face with her accusers.

If the general thought he would wipe the Shinawatras off the political map then sadly for the junta and yellow dems the complete reverse is happening.

[lewy67]

What she says in front of this kangaroo assembly is as irrelevant as what she presented to the kangaroo court / independent agency earlier last year. The result is a fait accompli decided by old men in uniforms behind closed doors long before the NLA plays out its charade. So any talk of due process, evidence being considered and decisions being made based on reason is only for the naive and not worthy of debate by anyone with even a little intelligence.

[NongKhaiKid]

So basically she averted the topics with double talk typical of a politician.

Did you attend any meetings about the the rice scheme Mrs. YL?

Answer: the rice scheme was needed to help the farmers. You should be careful about continuing this impeachment as it may upset the happiness of the people. Hehee!

Funny how yesterday's news was her lawyers comments how well she did at that hearing and how well she defended herself. I understand that press release was done by her lawyers. Did she think the truth would not come out about how she averted the main reason for her presence there? What a twit.

When a boss you can delegate your authority but not your responsibility !

EXCEPT perhaps in LoS where taking responsibility isn't on especially where there are others to be blamed.

[Diplomatico]

Funny how yesterday's news was her lawyers comments how well she did at that hearing and how well she defended herself. I understand that press release was done by her lawyers. Did she think the truth would not come out about how she averted the main reason for her presence there? What a twit.

And this press release was done by the opposing political party. Why ascribe to either of them as "truth"?

[Rhys]

yada yada yada

[rametindallas]

Since she is guilty, there is no real way she could have 'addressed the issue' without incriminating herself. She did however inform all her low-information supporters that she had 'clarified the NACC's charges' (http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/790598-ms-yingluck-says-she-feels-relieved-after-having-clarified-the-naccs-charges/) and that she is now 'relieved'. Now, if the prosecution continues, her supporters will see this as a political 'witch hunt'. She has successfully sown the seed of more division within the country. It is clear to me that she is still taking advise from her 'caddy'. Shinawatra DNA to the bone.

[ramrod711]

He said the former PM failed to explain herself on the allegation and deviated from the main reasons for the impeachment hearing.

There is no defense for the dereliction of duty charge. She was the boss, PM, and head of the rice scheme. Someone has to be held responsible for the waste, graft and damage. The only defense she presented was; Look at me, I'm such a nice person, look at how softly I speak, and a veiled threat, basically saying that the reds will hit the streets if she is impeached. That speaks volumes to me, this woman who holds no office, will be impeached, from what? Her vanity knows no bounds, and she doesn't care how many of her followers (paid by her brother), have to suffer if she turns them loose. The woman is either as big an egomaniac as her brother or she is stupid. Given her job performance, perhaps it's both.

[Manbing]

Lets all be honest here. No one knows what's going to happen here. This all depends on the reconciliation agreement agreed by the government and the Redshirts.

That being said

Yingluck 'friend of the farmer' left it to the military to pay the farmers long overdue income from the scheme. Refusing to answer charges is typical of politicians around the world. However claiming that now you no longer in office therefore can't be charged is ridiculous. It really is a shame she wont be going to prison, she deserves it.

[Tatsujin]

Supremacy of the law?

More like supremacy of the junta!

She hasn't fled there's been no tears just grace and dignity and this farce is only going to make her more popular than ever before no matter which way it goes.

The self proclaimed peoples champion hides behind a monks robe ignoring court summonses and currying favour for his divisive efforts in bringing down Thailands elected government while this lady stands face to face with her accusers.

If the general thought he would wipe the Shinawatras off the political map then sadly for the junta and yellow dems the complete reverse is happening.

I'll leave the "grace and dignity" (which is laughable) part alone and simply rewrite your main sentence:

Thaksin, the self proclaimed peoples champion hides behind another countries' passport to avoid jail time and further prosecution for the things he has previously done and continues to do, ignoring court summonses and continues to finance and support the red shirt movement in his divisive efforts in bringing down Thailand's monarchy whilst leaving his sister to stand face to face with her accusers and explain her actions whilst "leading the country" in his name.

Much more accurate.

[yellowboat]

All this appears to be a delusional effort on the part of the junta. The military deposes an elected government and usurps authotity, calls for the impeachment of somebody who is no longer in office, and then talks about supremacy of law

"If the members of the NLA would like to perform their role in putting the country back on the right track, the impeachment of a wrongdoer would show the supremacy of the law"

Laws are befuddled due to the coup. Also isn't impeachment, which is the wrong word for these proceedings anyway, a judicial process rather than an outcome? Clinton was impeached, but not removed from office.

Supremacy of law comes from NOT taking the easy way out of things. Somthing the junta is already guilty of.

[binjalin]

"failed to address the issues"

yea so did Obama, Bush, Cameron, Blair et al

Public office is, and should be, such that you cannot get 'sued', 'impeached' or 'witch-hunted' AFTER you leave office. When you are IN office you should come under CLOSE scrutiny of the public, press and watchdogs and ejected IF the voters votes you out OR you have committed an illegal act.

To hound someone AFTER they leave office is vindictive and absurd UNLESS it was an illegal act. No one has suggested the ex-PM acted illegally they just want to grind her into the ground for revenge and to set themselves up at the feeding trough for years to come.

Most Thais I know find this distasteful and are not in the least fooled by this as they all know the real reason (which we cannot discuss).

It seems in Thailand they seek to fool all of the people ALL of the time

Edited January 10, 2015 by binjalin

[DLock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3JzbWVDzac

[anon022]

Supremacy of the law?

More like supremacy of the junta!

She hasn't fled there's been no tears just grace and dignity and this farce is only going to make her more popular than ever before no matter which way it goes.

The self proclaimed peoples champion hides behind a monks robe ignoring court summonses and currying favour for his divisive efforts in bringing down Thailands elected government while this lady stands face to face with her accusers.

If the general thought he would wipe the Shinawatras off the political map then sadly for the junta and yellow dems the complete reverse is happening.

Keep stuttering

[Fiddlesticks]

Yingluck 'failed to address issues'

No surprise, she failed at everything else as well especially running a country.

[ChrisY1]

Yingluck 'failed to address issues'

No surprise, she failed at everything else as well especially running a country.

Well....can't blame her for everything......after all, shopping was always her forte.......and she looked rooly noice yesterday.....

[phantomfiddler]

Should be banned from politics for life, not just 5 years. As crooked as they come, along with the whole family !

[Halion]

Stop screwing around and just throw her ass in jail. Everyone knows she is as guilty as hell.

[Briggsy]

Every Thai administration since time began (and since WWII most have been military) has raided the Treasury and commandeered the economy for their own enrichment.

There is not a senior military family, senior police family or top political family that does not have a net worth of over 10 million dollars and many are worth considerably more, exponentially more.

What is going on here is application of pressure in the 90-year-old battle for power and national resources between elected representatives (mainly with their constituencies in the North and North-Eastern regions and rural or industrial masses) and non-elected senior figures (mainly with their constituencies in the military, civil service, judiciary and royal court).

The impeachment proceedings and any subsequent impeachment will just be another negotiating lever for the non-elected senior figures to hammer out a better deal for their lot at the expense of the other lot. Neither side would like to devolve any power or resources to the people through better justice for the masses, better health care for the poor or better education for the non-wealthy.

Finally, could you imagine any senior military figure over the last five decades having to publicly account for their actions under threat of punishment from the government? No, it is not possible. They are accountable only to themselves.

[Caveat Emptor]

Why doesn't she just come out with it and say she's a ' somebody ' and that's an end to it ?

[The stuttering parrot]

Rewriting my posts personal insults?

That's what we free thinking posters on here are use to yellow dem supporters.

Can't win won't win so just try and censor other posters or insult them.

That is the trait of a loser who is out of ammo!

[rubl]

Supremacy of the law?

More like supremacy of the junta!

She hasn't fled there's been no tears just grace and dignity and this farce is only going to make her more popular than ever before no matter which way it goes.

The self proclaimed peoples champion hides behind a monks robe ignoring court summonses and currying favour for his divisive efforts in bringing down Thailands elected government while this lady stands face to face with her accusers.

If the general thought he would wipe the Shinawatras off the political map then sadly for the junta and yellow dems the complete reverse is happening.

Like Ms. Yingluck you're not addressing the issue.

The issue is a 700,000,000,000 Baht debt as result of what the Yingluck Government positioned and defended as 'self-financing' scheme.

[stickyrice2000]

On the TV broadcast, they used the word 'suspect'. They don't even have evidences that she's corrupted. There is nothing for her to address. At that point in time, her administration believed it was the right decision to buy the rice from the farmers. End of story.

Edited January 10, 2015 by stickyrice2000

[rubl]

Every Thai administration since time began (and since WWII most have been military) has raided the Treasury and commandeered the economy for their own enrichment.

There is not a senior military family, senior police family or top political family that does not have a net worth of over 10 million dollars and many are worth considerably more, exponentially more.

What is going on here is application of pressure in the 90-year-old battle for power and national resources between elected representatives (mainly with their constituencies in the North and North-Eastern regions and rural or industrial masses) and non-elected senior figures (mainly with their constituencies in the military, civil service, judiciary and royal court).

The impeachment proceedings and any subsequent impeachment will just be another negotiating lever for the non-elected senior figures to hammer out a better deal for their lot at the expense of the other lot. Neither side would like to devolve any power or resources to the people through better justice for the masses, better health care for the poor or better education for the non-wealthy.

Finally, could you imagine any senior military figure over the last five decades having to publicly account for their actions under threat of punishment from the government? No, it is not possible. They are accountable only to themselves.

... but ... but ... but the others ...

It seems not only Ms. Yingluck was reluctant to address the issue of a 'self-financing' scheme ending up costing the State and therefore the tax payers 700,000,000,000 Baht.

[rubl]

"failed to address the issues"

yea so did Obama, Bush, Cameron, Blair et al

Public office is, and should be, such that you cannot get 'sued', 'impeached' or 'witch-hunted' AFTER you leave office. When you are IN office you should come under CLOSE scrutiny of the public, press and watchdogs and ejected IF the voters votes you out OR you have committed an illegal act.

To hound someone AFTER they leave office is vindictive and absurd UNLESS it was an illegal act. No one has suggested the ex-PM acted illegally they just want to grind her into the ground for revenge and to set themselves up at the feeding trough for years to come.

Most Thais I know find this distasteful and are not in the least fooled by this as they all know the real reason (which we cannot discuss).

It seems in Thailand they seek to fool all of the people ALL of the time

Most Thais I know wonder why Ms. Yingluck failed to address the issue of a 'self-financing' scheme losing 700 billion Baht. They find it definitely distasteful and are not in the least fooled by a smooth talking woman.

The real reason which we can discuss is Ms. Yingluck and her government failing to address the growing problems with their 'self-financing' scheme, kept on defending it. They even included themselves in the blanket amnesty bill (covering till 2012-08-09). That's not the type of remedy one would like to see.

[Jungle Jim]

Perhaps a nice long stay in prison might bring back her failing memory. Make the cell big enough for her brother and other family members.

[timewilltell]

On the TV broadcast, they used the word 'suspect'. They don't even have evidences that she's corrupted. There is nothing for her to address. At that point in time, her administration believed it was the right decision to buy the rice from the farmers. End of story.

ztbg

Irrelevant. They insert the word 'suspect' to avoid a charge of libel.

[tbthailand]

"If the members of the NLA would like to perform their role in putting the country back on the right track, the impeachment of a wrongdoer would show the supremacy of the law", Warong stated.

as this particular NLA has been hand-picked by the 'NCPO' which overturned the last government through, let's say, errr, ... less than legal methods, then it begs the question, "who's law?"

[cornishcarlos]

Rewriting my posts personal insults?

That's what we free thinking posters on here are use to yellow dem supporters.

Can't win won't win so just try and censor other posters or insult them.

That is the trait of a loser who is out of ammo!

Why do TV members get so aggressive with each other over their differing opinions ? Opinions is all they are, with no direct effect on the results of anything.

It's all a game, being played out as it has been for decades. Thailand will never benefit from any of it, the little people will definitely not benefit, the only people that will are those playing the game.

So for a longer, happier life, free from cardiac arrests, don't stress about what other people post