Palestinian girl, 14, in Israel prison for throwing rocks

[DeaconJohn]

Actually, I don't care what the Israeli's do, I think it is way past time for people to start dealing with terrorists the same way they are dealt with. Yes I am calling Palestinians terrorists.

There are terrorists on both sides of this conflict.

[Ulysses G.]

It seems to me that the focus here is incorrectly on the sex of the offender. There is no reason she should get a pass for a violent act that a boy wouldn't.

You are going to get arrested or a suffer a major ass whopping if you throw stones at a policeman anywhere. Why should it be any different for Palestinians, whether they are men, women, girls or boys? If you don't want to get arrested, use your brains and don't attack the police!

[H1w4yR1da]

She's probably just practicing for the next adulterer who needs to be stoned.

Racist bigotry. Take note folks of the Zionist mentality delighting in the shackling and incarceration of a 14 year old girl.

Here we go again. The white lefties do love to play the race card. I'm surprised you weren't called 'Islamophobic' as well. Piss poor attempt at mudslinging.

Maybe you should let her use your head as a target for rocks. See how you feel then.

May knock some sense into you.

[konying]

Would it have been other way around, girl would have been in the morgue with Hamas celebrating.

Should she have been patted on the back and let go?

Throwing rocks at cars intent to cause grievance bodily harm, damage to property and intent to cause traffic accident, hardly a laughing matter.

[Jingthing]

Palestinian "leaders" are encouraging this kind of thing. It makes good press in their successful PR efforts to demonize Israel.

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[konying]

It seems to me that the focus here is incorrectly on the sex of the offender. There is no reason she should get a pass for a violent act that a boy wouldn't.

You are going to get arrested or a suffer a major ass whopping if you throw stones at a policeman anywhere. Why should it be any different for Palestinians, whether they are men, women, girls or boys? If you don't want to get arrested, use your brains and don't attack the police!

Oh but you forgot, none of the common laws or common sense applies to Arabs anywhere in the world.

Apparently its ok for them to do whatever they want and get away with it, solely based on the fact that they are Arabs or because someone said something about a fake prophet.

[konying]

Rock throwing should be illegal for all ... boy / girl / Arab / Jew.

I get the "Palestinian resistance" thing, even though, rocks are not always thrown at armed soldiers, they are also thrown at unarmed civilians and cars causing deaths of civilians, and I get the "double standard" argument as far as enforcement Arabs vs. Jews ... but I don't get the complaint about why a girl should expect special treatment.

Most 14 year old girls are usually thinking about whoever they happen to have a crush on at that time, not throwing rocks at a perceived enemy.

My question is........What drives such perception?

Hate cartoons playing all day long

[Ulysses G.]

Most 14 year old girls are usually thinking about whoever they happen to have a crush on at that time, not throwing rocks at a perceived enemy.

My question is........What drives such perception?

Radical Islamic terrorism.

[RT555]

SHE JUST HIT MY NEW BMW...........now what? She needs 1000 lashes and pay for my 2,500 $ damage.

[Baerboxer]

Rock throwing should be illegal for all ... boy / girl / Arab / Jew.

I get the "Palestinian resistance" thing, even though, rocks are not always thrown at armed soldiers, they are also thrown at unarmed civilians and cars causing deaths of civilians, and I get the "double standard" argument as far as enforcement Arabs vs. Jews ... but I don't get the complaint about why a girl should expect special treatment.

You are right of course. We live in times of equality among the sexes. Throwing rocks is anti social, dangerous and could lead to fatalities. It needs to be stopped.

Moslem youths in UK stoned cars of white people driving through certain areas. Of course the response is to suggest people find a different route.

Edited January 28, 2015 by Baerboxer

[humqdpf]

QUOTE>Do you realize by using the term Zionist, you have shown you are just as much if not more of a bigot? Don't bother to reply, I will just be ignoring your ignorance anyway. QUOTE>

I fail to understand why the use of the term, Zionist (or its derivatives, Zionism etc) could be considered to be bigoted or even pejorative or ignorant. Zionists (see explanation for who they are in the Wikipedia definition, part of which is reproduced below) are proud to describe themselves as such. And even those who are not Jewish by religion or ethnicity can be considered to be Zionist (see reference below to Christian Zionism).

Please educate yourself before accusing persons of being bigots.

Zionism (Hebrew: צִיּוֹנוּת, translit. Tziyonut) is a nationalist and political movement of Jews and Jewish culture that supports the reestablishment of a Jewish homeland in the territory defined as the historic Land of Israel (also referred to as Palestine, Canaan or theHoly Land).^[1][2][3][4] Zionism emerged in the late 19th century in central and eastern Europe as a national revival movement, and soon after this most leaders of the movement associated the main goal with creating the desired state in Palestine, then an area controlled by the Ottoman Empire.^[5][6][7] A religious variety of Zionism supports Jews upholding their Jewish identity, opposes the assimilation of Jews into other societies and has advocated the 'return' of Jews to Israel as a means for Jews to be a majority in their own nation, and to be liberated from antisemitic discrimination, exclusion, and persecution that had historically occurred in the diaspora.^[1] Since the establishment of the State of Israel, the Zionist movement continues primarily to advocate on behalf of Israel and address threats to its continued existence and security. In a less common usage, the term may also refer to non-political, cultural Zionism, founded and represented most prominently by Ahad Ha'am; and political support for the State of Israel by non-Jews, as in Christian Zionism.

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Do you realize by using the term Zionist, you have shown you are just as much if not more of a bigot? Don't bother to reply, I will just be ignoring your ignorance anyway.

[Ulysses G.]

I think his point is that many anti-Semites substitute the word "Zionists" for Jews to cover up their real intent. They are bigots, but smart enough to try to hide it.

[Jingthing]

Of course just using the word Zionist isn't bigoted. It can be used in positive, neutral, and derogatory ways depending on the context of the usage.

[Jingthing]

I think his point is that many anti-Semites substitute the word "Zionists" for Jews to cover up their real intent. They are bigots, but smart enough to try to hide it.

Yes, it is very common to hide hatred against Jews and irrational opposition to the very existence of Israel behind the safer term anti-Zionist. It's curious how many "anti-Zionists" are against all peoples having the right to self determination in a nation state, such as Thais. Almost none. But the focus is only on JEWS not being worthy of the privilege of identification with a nation state.

Edited January 28, 2015 by Jingthing

[Ulysses G.]

I fail to understand why the use of the term, Zionist (or its derivatives, Zionism etc) could be considered to be bigoted or even pejorative or ignorant.

I think his point is that many bigots/anti-Semites these days merely substitute the word "Zionists" for "Jews" to hide their true agenda. It is quite common on Internet forums.

[Seastallion]

Actually, I don't care what the Israeli's do, I think it is way past time for people to start dealing with terrorists the same way they are dealt with. Yes I am calling Palestinians terrorists.

There are terrorists on both sides of this conflict.

Indeed you are correct, but what is a pertinent point here is that neither side are all terrorists, of which the poster to whom you replied is ignorant and shows his blatant bigotry.

[PepperMe]

She's probably just practicing for the next adulterer who needs to be stoned.

Racist bigotry. Take note folks of the Zionist mentality delighting in the shackling and incarceration of a 14 year old girl.

That is not racism or bigotry, it was humour.... Go find a dictionary before posting.

Ask yourself what would happen to a 14 year old jewish girl caught throwing rocks at Muslim cars in the city of Islamabad?.... Or what would happen to a 14 year old Jewish girl for just BEING in Islamabad????

Yes indeed..... I think if anyone is being a racist, it is YOU sir.

[PepperMe]

Rock throwing should be illegal for all ... boy / girl / Arab / Jew.

I get the "Palestinian resistance" thing, even though, rocks are not always thrown at armed soldiers, they are also thrown at unarmed civilians and cars causing deaths of civilians, and I get the "double standard" argument as far as enforcement Arabs vs. Jews ... but I don't get the complaint about why a girl should expect special treatment.

You are right of course. We live in times of equality among the sexes. Throwing rocks is anti social, dangerous and could lead to fatalities. It needs to be stopped.

Moslem youths in UK stoned cars of white people driving through certain areas. Of course the response is to suggest people find a different route.

Yep, and then you have what is called a "no go zone".... Which by the way the Muslims and the UK government and their PC media cronies are bending over backwards to deny the existence of.

If I were in the UK, I could take you 4 of these places that I already know exist.

A war veteran who eventually died from this attack for walking into an Asian community in Oldham..... Many more cases of Muslims attacking whites for straying into the wrong area.

Yep..... drive around the area, let the Asians win.

If this is going on in the streets of the UK..... Then imagine how bad the threat is in a place like the West Bank where the stakes are a whole lot higher.... Result: The need for tougher clamp downs.

Edited January 28, 2015 by PepperMe

[Seastallion]

I think his point is that many anti-Semites substitute the word "Zionists" for Jews to cover up their real intent. They are bigots, but smart enough to try to hide it.

Yes, it is very common to hide hatred against Jews and irrational opposition to the very existence of Israel behind the safer term anti-Zionist. It's curious how many "anti-Zionists" are against all peoples having the right to self determination in a nation state, such as Thais. Almost none. But the focus is only on JEWS not being worthy of the privilege of identification with a nation state.

There are a few problems with your victim mentality in this issue.

The anti-Zionists do not hide behind the term at all, and their focus is on Zionists (who happen to be Jews), not Jews per se. If their criticism of Zionists overflows, it is upon Israelis, not Jews per se, as it is the Israeli electorate that keeps on voting in the governments whose Zionist policies pervade.

And that should be fair enough...after all, look at all the condemnation of all Muslims because they don't speak out about Islamic extremism. Hmmm?

[Seastallion]

Rock throwing should be illegal for all ... boy / girl / Arab / Jew.

I get the "Palestinian resistance" thing, even though, rocks are not always thrown at armed soldiers, they are also thrown at unarmed civilians and cars causing deaths of civilians, and I get the "double standard" argument as far as enforcement Arabs vs. Jews ... but I don't get the complaint about why a girl should expect special treatment.

Most 14 year old girls are usually thinking about whoever they happen to have a crush on at that time, not throwing rocks at a perceived enemy.

My question is........What drives such perception?

Indeed. And such a profoundly sad question it is. This little girl, with her Ronaldo poster....what drove her?

[dexterm]

As usual terribly one-sided Where is the justice in this?

WATCH: Israeli police let stone-throwing settlers walk away

http://972mag.com/watch-israeli-police-let-stone-throwing-settlers-walk-away/99740/

So you completely ignore the fact that they were attacked first? Or is that ok? It is just Israelis that are not allowed to defend themselves?

What the ?*!? ...are the Israelis doing there in the first place to get stones thrown at them ...they are illegally occupying Palestinian land as the world community via UN resolutions have told them umpteen times. Get the hell out of occupying other people's land, return to the 67 borders and these things wont happen

What would you do if someone were occupying your land?... resist or roll over?

Edited January 28, 2015 by dexterm

[Ulysses G.]

Nonsense. Arabs attacked Jews long before there was even a country there and they have never stopped. The 67 borders make no difference other than a phony excuse. Anyone stupid enough to throw stones at the police deserves what they get.

Edited January 28, 2015 by Ulysses G.

[dexterm]

Chwooly,

Actually, I don't care what the Israeli's do, I think it is way past time for people to start dealing with terrorists the same way they are dealt with. Yes I am calling Palestinians terrorists.

Thanks for your honesty and displaying your racist bigoted credentials...at least we all know where you stand.

[Chwooly]

QUOTE>Do you realize by using the term Zionist, you have shown you are just as much if not more of a bigot? Don't bother to reply, I will just be ignoring your ignorance anyway. QUOTE>

I fail to understand why the use of the term, Zionist (or its derivatives, Zionism etc) could be considered to be bigoted or even pejorative or ignorant. Zionists (see explanation for who they are in the Wikipedia definition, part of which is reproduced below) are proud to describe themselves as such. And even those who are not Jewish by religion or ethnicity can be considered to be Zionist (see reference below to Christian Zionism).

Please educate yourself before accusing persons of being bigots.

Zionism (Hebrew: צִיּוֹנוּת, translit. Tziyonut) is a nationalist and political movement of Jews and Jewish culture that supports the reestablishment of a Jewish homeland in the territory defined as the historic Land of Israel (also referred to as Palestine, Canaan or theHoly Land).^[1][2][3][4] Zionism emerged in the late 19th century in central and eastern Europe as a national revival movement, and soon after this most leaders of the movement associated the main goal with creating the desired state in Palestine, then an area controlled by the Ottoman Empire.^[5][6][7] A religious variety of Zionism supports Jews upholding their Jewish identity, opposes the assimilation of Jews into other societies and has advocated the 'return' of Jews to Israel as a means for Jews to be a majority in their own nation, and to be liberated from antisemitic discrimination, exclusion, and persecution that had historically occurred in the diaspora.^[1] Since the establishment of the State of Israel, the Zionist movement continues primarily to advocate on behalf of Israel and address threats to its continued existence and security. In a less common usage, the term may also refer to non-political, cultural Zionism, founded and represented most prominently by Ahad Ha'am; and political support for the State of Israel by non-Jews, as in Christian Zionism.

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Do you realize by using the term Zionist, you have shown you are just as much if not more of a bigot? Don't bother to reply, I will just be ignoring your ignorance anyway.

Actually Zionism has been used for decades as a pejorative for anyone who sides with Israel or Jewish desires for their own homeland

[dexterm]

Nonsense. Arabs attacked Jews long before there was even a country there and they have never stopped. The 67 borders make no difference other than a phony excuse. Anyone stupid enough to throw stones at the police deserves what they get.

What the hell were Zionist Jews doing in Palestine in 1890 when their racist movement started ....not coming as invited guests but with the intention to take over the whole country by ethnically cleansing the existing Palestinian population and replacing them with their own colonists, which by bully boy violence they achieved ..the root of the entire problem.

More's the pity the local Palestinians under Ottoman then British control didn't realize sooner than the 1920s when they protested what the true land grabbing intentions of the Zionist Jews were.

And the Zionists are still doing it today, and you are one of those cheering them on...hence the 14 year old girl resisting as best she can.

But the whole world is watching this time and you won't get away with it.

[Steely Dan]

She's probably just practicing for the next adulterer who needs to be stoned.

Racist bigotry. Take note folks of the Zionist mentality delighting in the shackling and incarceration of a 14 year old girl.

I wish I could say I hope you never find yourself driving along and have someone try to throw a stone through your windscreen, but I guess you get my point.

[dexterm]

QUOTE>Do you realize by using the term Zionist, you have shown you are just as much if not more of a bigot? Don't bother to reply, I will just be ignoring your ignorance anyway. QUOTE>

I fail to understand why the use of the term, Zionist (or its derivatives, Zionism etc) could be considered to be bigoted or even pejorative or ignorant. Zionists (see explanation for who they are in the Wikipedia definition, part of which is reproduced below) are proud to describe themselves as such. And even those who are not Jewish by religion or ethnicity can be considered to be Zionist (see reference below to Christian Zionism).

Please educate yourself before accusing persons of being bigots.

Zionism (Hebrew: צִיּוֹנוּת, translit. Tziyonut) is a nationalist and political movement of Jews and Jewish culture that supports the reestablishment of a Jewish homeland in the territory defined as the historic Land of Israel (also referred to as Palestine, Canaan or theHoly Land).^[1][2][3][4] Zionism emerged in the late 19th century in central and eastern Europe as a national revival movement, and soon after this most leaders of the movement associated the main goal with creating the desired state in Palestine, then an area controlled by the Ottoman Empire.^[5][6][7] A religious variety of Zionism supports Jews upholding their Jewish identity, opposes the assimilation of Jews into other societies and has advocated the 'return' of Jews to Israel as a means for Jews to be a majority in their own nation, and to be liberated from antisemitic discrimination, exclusion, and persecution that had historically occurred in the diaspora.^[1] Since the establishment of the State of Israel, the Zionist movement continues primarily to advocate on behalf of Israel and address threats to its continued existence and security. In a less common usage, the term may also refer to non-political, cultural Zionism, founded and represented most prominently by Ahad Ha'am; and political support for the State of Israel by non-Jews, as in Christian Zionism.

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Do you realize by using the term Zionist, you have shown you are just as much if not more of a bigot? Don't bother to reply, I will just be ignoring your ignorance anyway.

Actually Zionism has been used for decades as a pejorative for anyone who sides with Israel or Jewish desires for their own homeland

In your dreams, buddy...go do your homework and check the definition of Zionism. It has a specific meaning. It didnt exist before 1896.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism

[Jingthing]

Zionism just means supporting the right of political self determination for the Jewish people. As Israel nation now exists the de facto modern meaning is support of Israel's right to exist. There are various flavors of Zionists. The west bank settler movement is part of right wing Zionism not all Zionism.

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[Chwooly]

Actually, I don't care what the Israeli's do, I think it is way past time for people to start dealing with terrorists the same way they are dealt with. Yes I am calling Palestinians terrorists.

There are terrorists on both sides of this conflict.

Indeed you are correct, but what is a pertinent point here is that neither side are all terrorists, of which the poster to whom you replied is ignorant and shows his blatant bigotry.

And as long as there are terrorists who continue to target children, women, and other non-combatants I will continue to a bigot against them.

[Ulysses G.]

Nonsense. Arabs attacked Jews long before there was even a country there and they have never stopped. The 67 borders make no difference other than a phony excuse. Anyone stupid enough to throw stones at the police deserves what they get.

What the hell were Zionist Jews doing in Palestine in 1890

Living there, just like the Arabs, Christians and Bedouins, but there was no country to "take over". You never seem to get tired of posting ridiculous fabrications that are easily disproved.