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PM wants Surapong to face junta summons
The Nation



BANGKOK: -- PRIME MINISTER Prayut Chan-o-cha said yesterday that he would instruct the junta to summon former foreign minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul over comments seen as deepening the national divide.

Surapong made the comment after a meeting with Daniel Russel, the US assistant secretary of state for East Asian and Pacific Affairs, on Monday.

Surapong had accompanied former PM Yingluck Shinawatra to the meeting and later told Russel that Yingluck's political fate would be no different from that of her brother Thaksin. He also criticised the martial law for blocking freedom.

Prayut said he would spare Yingluck because he had always held her in high regard as the country's former prime minister, adding that if she wanted to travel out of the country, he would let the court decide.

After being impeached and banned from politics for five years, Yingluck now faces prosecution in a criminal case over her failure to stop losses and corruption in the rice-pledging scheme.

"I beg you to not destroy the only hope you have. If you think I'm the only glimpse of hope, then it is because nobody has taken any responsibility," he said.

"Don't let anybody pressure your government. Thai people have honour and dignity. We must be proud of our Thainess and love each other."

Meanwhile, Deputy Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwan said if Surapong had a tendency of |causing political rifts, then the government had the right to summon him for attitude adjustment.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/PM-wants-Surapong-to-face-junta-summons-30252917.html


-- The Nation 2015-01-29

[Somtamnication]

Nothing more surreal than seeing a police officer salute a military man. Yep, we know how is in power!

[PepperMe]

I tell you what.....

You couldn't really get a cigarette paper between Surapong and Chalerm as far as being the biggest obstacles to peace and reconciliation in Thailand.

Forget the red shirt leaders, they are all but inert now.

This lizard has already had his first warning about sh*t stirring especially abroad (Still thinking he is a foreign minister). But besides that, he has failed to heed the warning, and should now be taken out of the picture for some time to reflect on his bufoonary. Six months ought to do it..... They tried it the nice way the first time.... Now an example needs to be set to show people they are not messing around here. Surapong is the perfect example.

You need to be hard in politics, especially a military government presiding over a deeply polarized country. You can do without dicks making the job harder, and these are easy to deal with.

No more candy floss treatment for f sake.

Edited January 28, 2015 by PepperMe

[yellowboat]

"Prayut said he would spare Yingluck because he had always held her in high regard as the country's former prime minister, adding that if she wanted to travel out of the country, he would let the court decide."

How can you have fair trails if the Junta leader has total and unquestionable control over the judiciary ? The statements from the Russel ring true every time the good general opens his mouth.

To the lovers all things junta, please explain how attacking those with a critical and opposing views, and the junta's absolute control over the courts is going to turn Thailand into anything that resembles a free and educated Asian society ? Examples being Taiwan or Japan.

[smedly]

I tell you what.....

You couldn't really get a cigarette paper between Surapong and Chalerm as far as being the biggest obstacles to peace and reconciliation in Thailand.

Forget the red shirt leaders, they are all but inert now.

This lizard has already had his first warning about sh*t stirring especially abroad (Still thinking he is a foreign minister). But besides that, he has failed to heed the warning, and should now be taken out of the picture for some time to reflect on his bufoonary. Six months ought to do it..... They tried it the nice way the first time.... Now an example needs to be set to show people they are not messing around here. Surapong is the perfect example.

You need to be hard in politics, especially a military government presiding over a deeply polarized country. You can do without dicks making the job harder, and these are easy to deal with.

No more candy floss treatment for f sake.

best post on TvF so far this year, it is people like Surapong that have constantly abused and created division here every time he opens his mouth, his motive is obvious, and lets not forget the evil master that pulls all the strings of these puppets - his motive and agenda has always been the same

Keep telling us what.....

[smedly]

"Prayut said he would spare Yingluck because he had always held her in high regard as the country's former prime minister, adding that if she wanted to travel out of the country, he would let the court decide."

How can you have fair trails if the Junta leader has total and unquestionable control over the judiciary ? The statements from the Russel ring true every time the good general opens his mouth.

To the lovers all things junta, please explain how attacking those with a critical and opposing views, and the junta's absolute control over the courts is going to turn Thailand into anything that resembles a free and educated Asian society ? Examples being Taiwan or Japan.

to answer your question - just go back to the first 5 months of this year to understand why we are here

You say the junta has unquestionable control over the judiciary - really ? based on what evidence, claims and factual statements (as you worded it) like that could get you locked up

Nobody is under any illusion that if Martial law wishes it - YL will not be allowed to take a dump unless she gets approval, the PM is simply stating ML and the NCPO will not be involved

[berybert]

"Prayut said he would spare Yingluck because he had always held her in high regard as the country's former prime minister, adding that if she wanted to travel out of the country, he would let the court decide."

How can you have fair trails if the Junta leader has total and unquestionable control over the judiciary ? The statements from the Russel ring true every time the good general opens his mouth.

To the lovers all things junta, please explain how attacking those with a critical and opposing views, and the junta's absolute control over the courts is going to turn Thailand into anything that resembles a free and educated Asian society ? Examples being Taiwan or Japan.

to answer your question - just go back to the first 5 months of this year to understand why we are here

You say the junta has unquestionable control over the judiciary - really ? based on what evidence, claims and factual statements (as you worded it) like that could get you locked up

Nobody is under any illusion that if Martial law wishes it - YL will not be allowed to take a dump unless she gets approval, the PM is simply stating ML and the NCPO will not be involved

" just go back to the first 5 months of this year"

I am guessing you have caught a little to much Thainess ?

Edited January 29, 2015 by berybert

[ib1b4]

"Prayut said he would spare Yingluck because he had always held her in high regard as the country's former prime minister, adding that if she wanted to travel out of the country, he would let the court decide."

How can you have fair trails if the Junta leader has total and unquestionable control over the judiciary ? The statements from the Russel ring true every time the good general opens his mouth.

To the lovers all things junta, please explain how attacking those with a critical and opposing views, and the junta's absolute control over the courts is going to turn Thailand into anything that resembles a free and educated Asian society ? Examples being Taiwan or Japan.

to answer your question - just go back to the first 5 months of this year to understand why we are here

You say the junta has unquestionable control over the judiciary - really ? based on what evidence, claims and factual statements (as you worded it) like that could get you locked up

Nobody is under any illusion that if Martial law wishes it - YL will not be allowed to take a dump unless she gets approval, the PM is simply stating ML and the NCPO will not be involved

Iam on a whisky diet! Lost four months this year already.

[smedly]

oooops too late to edit lol

I think most people would understand what I was saying - some might be confused

[gamini]

"Prayut said he would spare Yingluck because he had always held her in high regard as the country's former prime minister, adding that if she wanted to travel out of the country, he would let the court decide."

How can you have fair trails if the Junta leader has total and unquestionable control over the judiciary ? The statements from the Russel ring true every time the good general opens his mouth.

To the lovers all things junta, please explain how attacking those with a critical and opposing views, and the junta's absolute control over the courts is going to turn Thailand into anything that resembles a free and educated Asian society ? Examples being Taiwan or Japan.

The Junta has no control over the courts . Where did you get that stupid biased idea from. But I guess you are just another red shirt supporter Which would explain your mentality

[PREM-R]

"Prayut said he would spare Yingluck because he had always held her in high regard as the country's former prime minister, adding that if she wanted to travel out of the country, he would let the court decide."

How can you have fair trails if the Junta leader has total and unquestionable control over the judiciary ? The statements from the Russel ring true every time the good general opens his mouth.

To the lovers all things junta, please explain how attacking those with a critical and opposing views, and the junta's absolute control over the courts is going to turn Thailand into anything that resembles a free and educated Asian society ? Examples being Taiwan or Japan.

The Junta has no control over the courts . Where did you get that stupid biased idea from. But I guess you are just another red shirt supporter Which would explain your mentality

"The Junta has no control over the courts . Where did you get that stupid biased idea from...."

The people who run the Junta are from the same background, they attended the same schools as the people who make up the judiciary. These folks think alike, follow the same political ideology, they are cast in the same mold.

[yellowboat]

"Prayut said he would spare Yingluck because he had always held her in high regard as the country's former prime minister, adding that if she wanted to travel out of the country, he would let the court decide."

How can you have fair trails if the Junta leader has total and unquestionable control over the judiciary ? The statements from the Russel ring true every time the good general opens his mouth.

To the lovers all things junta, please explain how attacking those with a critical and opposing views, and the junta's absolute control over the courts is going to turn Thailand into anything that resembles a free and educated Asian society ? Examples being Taiwan or Japan.

The Junta has no control over the courts . Where did you get that stupid biased idea from. But I guess you are just another red shirt supporter Which would explain your mentality

From the quote above. ", he would let the court decide.""

[Prbkk]

Really, with all respect this guy should just shut up and tell his ministers to do the same. They have power, they have control, there is no threat. They would be better advised to tolerate a bit of chat and criticism and at least appear to be a bit worldly. This Orwell/Huxley-speak was funny but is now becoming tiresome.

[bobmac10]

I tell you what.....

You couldn't really get a cigarette paper between Surapong and Chalerm as far as being the biggest obstacles to peace and reconciliation in Thailand.

Forget the red shirt leaders, they are all but inert now.

This lizard has already had his first warning about sh*t stirring especially abroad (Still thinking he is a foreign minister). But besides that, he has failed to heed the warning, and should now be taken out of the picture for some time to reflect on his bufoonary. Six months ought to do it..... They tried it the nice way the first time.... Now an example needs to be set to show people they are not messing around here. Surapong is the perfect example.

You need to be hard in politics, especially a military government presiding over a deeply polarized country. You can do without dicks making the job harder, and these are easy to deal with.

No more candy floss treatment for f sake.

You of course are dreaming.

If you really believe that the majority of Thai's who voted for PTP will somehow forget that the army took their government away and forgive , then you are living in lala land.

The harder this meglomaniac general pushes the harder the pushback will be when it comes.

All the sinister elements of the Burmese military junta are now beginning to show themselves in this bunch.

Now it's internet snooping, phone tapping and survelance without any recourse to the courts.

Stacking the senate with anti-PTP academics, tightening the grip for a permanent control of Thailand and all the while the continual politicspeak of Orwell's 1984.

No opposition will be tolerated.

This is what you like?

i suppose the nazis had their supporters too.

[ratcatcher]

Nothing more surreal than seeing a police officer salute a military man. Yep, we know how is in power!

I think we see where you're coming from with this comment.

However, the cop, probably a member of the Government House division, is saluting the Prime Minister (retired general) not an army officer.

Big difference. And of course we know how he came to power.

Edited January 29, 2015 by ratcatcher

[Baerboxer]

Nothing more surreal than seeing a police officer salute a military man. Yep, we know how is in power!

Do you think he might actually be saluting because it's the PM?

Did you miss the bit where he retired from the army and became the PM?

[Baerboxer]

I tell you what.....

You couldn't really get a cigarette paper between Surapong and Chalerm as far as being the biggest obstacles to peace and reconciliation in Thailand.

Forget the red shirt leaders, they are all but inert now.

This lizard has already had his first warning about sh*t stirring especially abroad (Still thinking he is a foreign minister). But besides that, he has failed to heed the warning, and should now be taken out of the picture for some time to reflect on his bufoonary. Six months ought to do it..... They tried it the nice way the first time.... Now an example needs to be set to show people they are not messing around here. Surapong is the perfect example.

You need to be hard in politics, especially a military government presiding over a deeply polarized country. You can do without dicks making the job harder, and these are easy to deal with.

No more candy floss treatment for f sake.

You of course are dreaming.

If you really believe that the majority of Thai's who voted for PTP will somehow forget that the army took their government away and forgive , then you are living in lala land.

The harder this meglomaniac general pushes the harder the pushback will be when it comes.

All the sinister elements of the Burmese military junta are now beginning to show themselves in this bunch.

Now it's internet snooping, phone tapping and survelance without any recourse to the courts.

Stacking the senate with anti-PTP academics, tightening the grip for a permanent control of Thailand and all the while the continual politicspeak of Orwell's 1984.

No opposition will be tolerated.

This is what you like?

i suppose the nazis had their supporters too.

Leaving out the silly hyperbole comparisons, particularly to the Nazis, you are stating the 2 most common PTP supporter myths.

PTP never ever received the votes of the majority of the Thai people. Their mandate was from the largest minority. And, the conviction that all those in that large minority who voted PTP are still supporters of the Shins. Many of them now realize a Shin government is for Shin benefit, nobody else. The volume support wasn't there before the coup when the red shirt leaders tried hard to mobilize it; nor did they take to the streets as some PTP leaders had predicted to protect Yingluck.

PTP are nothing without Thaksin and his money. And that leave the poor and rural Thai with nothing except the old corrupt regional "barons" and their power bases.

[wolfmanjack]

Nothing more surreal than seeing a police officer salute a military man. Yep, we know how is in power!

I used to date an army generals's daughter and have seen the police salute her just because his hat was laying on the back seat.

[jayboy]

I tell you what.....

You couldn't really get a cigarette paper between Surapong and Chalerm as far as being the biggest obstacles to peace and reconciliation in Thailand.

Forget the red shirt leaders, they are all but inert now.

This lizard has already had his first warning about sh*t stirring especially abroad (Still thinking he is a foreign minister). But besides that, he has failed to heed the warning, and should now be taken out of the picture for some time to reflect on his bufoonary. Six months ought to do it..... They tried it the nice way the first time.... Now an example needs to be set to show people they are not messing around here. Surapong is the perfect example.

You need to be hard in politics, especially a military government presiding over a deeply polarized country. You can do without dicks making the job harder, and these are easy to deal with.

No more candy floss treatment for f sake.

Appalling post.It matters not what one thinks of Surapong ( and as it happens I don't think much of him ) this disgusting post is reminiscent of fascism.Decent people will find the "summoning" of a former minister in these circumstances quite chilling.One thinks of the students who gave up their lives for democracy forty years ago and how their vision and contribution are now being trashed.For the Thai unelected elites and their deluded urban middle class acolytes, there is at least some logic in this kind of attitude.But from expatriates it is inexplicable and inexcusable.

[Baerboxer]

Really, with all respect this guy should just shut up and tell his ministers to do the same. They have power, they have control, there is no threat. They would be better advised to tolerate a bit of chat and criticism and at least appear to be a bit worldly. This Orwell/Huxley-speak was funny but is now becoming tiresome.

Indeed. When I first saw the headline I thought Surapong was at last going to be held accountable for the illegal issuing of a new passport to the desert fugitive.

The one he's refused to answer the Ombudsman's question on for years now. Illegal issuing - wonder who paid the cost of the passport and his air fare when he hand delivered it. Enough their to cook this guy's goose should they want to.

Surapong will probably never answer the Ombudsman, or be held accountable. It seems no one's interested in even canceling the illegal passport.

Just shows, that in reality, all sides in the struggle among elites for the power are really mostly above the law. If they don't change this then they will never ever have any meaningful reforms.

[Baerboxer]

I tell you what.....

You couldn't really get a cigarette paper between Surapong and Chalerm as far as being the biggest obstacles to peace and reconciliation in Thailand.

Forget the red shirt leaders, they are all but inert now.

This lizard has already had his first warning about sh*t stirring especially abroad (Still thinking he is a foreign minister). But besides that, he has failed to heed the warning, and should now be taken out of the picture for some time to reflect on his bufoonary. Six months ought to do it..... They tried it the nice way the first time.... Now an example needs to be set to show people they are not messing around here. Surapong is the perfect example.

You need to be hard in politics, especially a military government presiding over a deeply polarized country. You can do without dicks making the job harder, and these are easy to deal with.

No more candy floss treatment for f sake.

Appalling post.It matters not what one thinks of Surapong ( and as it happens I don't think much of him ) this disgusting post is reminiscent of fascism.Decent people will find the "summoning" of a former minister in these circumstances quite chilling.One thinks of the students who gave up their lives for democracy forty years ago and how their vision and contribution are now being trashed.For the Thai unelected elites and their deluded urban middle class acolytes, there is at least some logic in this kind of attitude.But from expatriates it is inexplicable and inexcusable.

Fascism, communism, certain current dictator regimes - take your pick. All totalitarian regimes, whatever they claim to be, operate some form of "attitude adjustments". Maybe being called in for a "chat" or at the extreme sent off to some gulag or equivalent. Monitoring of communications, censored press, no free speech and constant propaganda.

Denouncing those with a different view - not heard of any recent cases but certainly happened in red villages and most probably in the Dems areas too.

Democracy is also suffering from these attacks in some Western countries. Press owned and controlled by rich businessmen, more monitoring by government, laws about what can be said and not said. Some expatriates may come from countries where democracy has been diluted and so don't see the dangers of allowing erosion of things necessary to protect a democracy. Thais have never really enjoyed one. Most from the West will have and have seen that change over recent years.

If Surapong was being summoned over his issuing of a new passport to his cousin when Foreign Minister then fair enough. He should answer the Ombudsman's questions and not be allowed to simply ignore them. But for expressing a view? A tad draconian in this case.

[smedly]

I tell you what.....

You couldn't really get a cigarette paper between Surapong and Chalerm as far as being the biggest obstacles to peace and reconciliation in Thailand.

Forget the red shirt leaders, they are all but inert now.

This lizard has already had his first warning about sh*t stirring especially abroad (Still thinking he is a foreign minister). But besides that, he has failed to heed the warning, and should now be taken out of the picture for some time to reflect on his bufoonary. Six months ought to do it..... They tried it the nice way the first time.... Now an example needs to be set to show people they are not messing around here. Surapong is the perfect example.

You need to be hard in politics, especially a military government presiding over a deeply polarized country. You can do without dicks making the job harder, and these are easy to deal with.

No more candy floss treatment for f sake.

Appalling post.It matters not what one thinks of Surapong ( and as it happens I don't think much of him ) this disgusting post is reminiscent of fascism.Decent people will find the "summoning" of a former minister in these circumstances quite chilling.One thinks of the students who gave up their lives for democracy forty years ago and how their vision and contribution are now being trashed.For the Thai unelected elites and their deluded urban middle class acolytes, there is at least some logic in this kind of attitude.But from expatriates it is inexplicable and inexcusable.

I hate to burst your bubble but there has never been a properly practiced and implemented democracy in Thailand and if you think there has I would suggest you get the books out and find out just exactly what a democracy is, that in fact is the biggest problem in this country, they use the word continually but haven't got the remotest idea what it actually is, it's actually quite comical if it wasn't so serious

- I'll give you a head start, it is far more than having an election

[mikemac]

You of course are dreaming.

If you really believe that the majority of Thai's who voted for PTP will somehow forget that the army took their government away and forgive , then you are living in lala land.

The harder this meglomaniac general pushes the harder the pushback will be when it comes.

All the sinister elements of the Burmese military junta are now beginning to show themselves in this bunch.

Now it's internet snooping, phone tapping and survelance without any recourse to the courts.

Stacking the senate with anti-PTP academics, tightening the grip for a permanent control of Thailand and all the while the continual politicspeak of Orwell's 1984.

No opposition will be tolerated.

This is what you like?

i suppose the nazis had their supporters too.

If things were as tough as some say, posts like the above would not be tolerated.

[lewy67]

"I beg you to not destroy the only hope you have. If you think I'm the only glimpse of hope, then it is because nobody has taken any responsibility," he said.

"Don't let anybody pressure your government. Thai people have honour and dignity. We must be proud of our Thainess and love each other."

This man has serious mental issues and extremely low intelligence to the point where I think he may have some kind of intellectual disability related to being inbred. He seizes power by shoving guns in peoples faces, takes away freedom of speech and freedom of assembly, 'dissapears' an unknown number of opponents and cancels democracy and thinking. Then says's, "I beg you to not destroy the only hope you have.

If this is hope there is no hope.

[tbthailand]

"Prayut said he would spare Yingluck because he had always held her in high regard as the country's former prime minister, adding that if she wanted to travel out of the country, he would let the court decide."

How can you have fair trails if the Junta leader has total and unquestionable control over the judiciary ? The statements from the Russel ring true every time the good general opens his mouth.

To the lovers all things junta, please explain how attacking those with a critical and opposing views, and the junta's absolute control over the courts is going to turn Thailand into anything that resembles a free and educated Asian society ? Examples being Taiwan or Japan.

The Junta has no control over the courts . Where did you get that stupid biased idea from. But I guess you are just another red shirt supporter Which would explain your mentality

that's rich. Really, really rich... full-on head in the sand, rich...

[rickirs]

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"Prayut said he would spare Yingluck because he had always held her in high regard as the country's former prime minister, adding that if she wanted to travel out of the country, he would let the court decide."

How can you have fair trails if the Junta leader has total and unquestionable control over the judiciary ? The statements from the Russel ring true every time the good general opens his mouth.

To the lovers all things junta, please explain how attacking those with a critical and opposing views, and the junta's absolute control over the courts is going to turn Thailand into anything that resembles a free and educated Asian society ? Examples being Taiwan or Japan.

to answer your question - just go back to the first 5 months of this year to understand why we are here

You say the junta has unquestionable control over the judiciary - really ? based on what evidence, claims and factual statements (as you worded it) like that could get you locked up

Nobody is under any illusion that if Martial law wishes it - YL will not be allowed to take a dump unless she gets approval, the PM is simply stating ML and the NCPO will not be involved

Your evidence - Article 44 of the Interim (aka Provisional) Charter:

"Democrat Party chairman Abhisit Vejjajiva and Pheu Thai politician Chaturon Chaisaeng warned against the unchecked power granted to the junta’s National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) under the interim charter.

The two politicians' main concern was Article 44 of the 2014 Interim Constitution, which permits the NCPO to stay in power after a temporary civilian government is formed and enables NCPO chairman Gen. Prayuth Chan-ocha to unilaterally intervene in matters related to "national security" and "public order.”

Under Article 44, Gen. Prayuth is allowed "to order, to suspend, or to take action, regardless of its effects on the legislative, executive or judiciary" against any perceived threats to "public order, national security, the monarchy, national economy or sovereignty of the country."

In a Facebook post, Democrat Party chairman Mr. Abhisit compared Article 44 to Section 17 of the 1959 Charter that similarly granted complete power to a military leader in the name of national security. Mr. Abhisit observed that Article 44 appears to be even more gratuitous than the infamous Section 17.

"Even ... Section 17, which is considered to be the most absolute, only gives power to Prime Minister to order or take action to suppress acts that threaten national security," Mr. Abhisit wrote. "The difference is: under Article 44, the special power belongs to NCPO leader. The NCPO does not have to seek consent from the prime Minister."

He continued, "Article 44 clearly states that the power has binding effect in legislative and judiciary aspects, without a process to challenge or scrutinize them. That means it’s the ability to issue a law or reverse a court verdict."

[MaxLee]

Prayut said he would spare Yingluck because he had always held her in high regard as the country's former prime minister, adding that if she wanted to travel out of the country, he would let the court decide.

Jail term juuuuuuuust kidding

[draftvader]

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