Chiengmaijoe Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 A young couple came into the bar I was in last night and the first words from the girl were "what's the password for the wifi?". The guy ordered a drink, but the girl, who was busy signing in, said she was "okay, thanks", meaning she didn't want to order anything. When the waiter pointed out that if she didn't order anything the wifi wasn't free, her reply was that since her boyfriend had ordered a small beer, 'they' had ordered something. The waiter repeated that she must order something if she wants to use the wifi for free, so they got up and left! Since the bar was packed, I don't think they were too bothered, and of course she wouldn't have been adding much to the ambience, but the question still remains, was the waiter right or wrong, was she just a freeloader? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AnotherOneAmerican Posted February 1, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2015 He was right, if she didn't order, she wasn't a customer. 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony5 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 He was wrong, because she could have ordered the beer instead of her boyfriend, then give the beer to him. In that case she had ordered something, and the boyfriend who hadn't ordered something himself, didn't use the wifi. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MESmith Posted February 1, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2015 He was wrong, because she could have ordered the beer instead of her boyfriend, then give the beer to him. In that case she had ordered something, and the boyfriend who hadn't ordered something himself, didn't use the wifi. But, she didn't. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chiengmaijoe Posted February 1, 2015 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2015 He was wrong, because she could have ordered the beer instead of her boyfriend, then give the beer to him. In that case she had ordered something, and the boyfriend who hadn't ordered something himself, didn't use the wifi. Good try. She would have ordered it for him, but she still wouldn't have ordered anything for herself. She'd still be sat there with nothing in front of her, using the free wifi. Most people in her situation would have thought 'fair enough' and ordered at least a coffee or a coke or something if she didn't want a beer. What exactly is wrong with ordering something if you're in a bar, taking up space and using the facilities? Common courtesy. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ukrules Posted February 1, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2015 Just sitting in a bar and not ordering anything is pretty ignorant. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wooloomooloo Posted February 1, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2015 If it were my bar then I would have given her the password. They entered as a couple and ordered a beer. Notwithstanding, I wouldn't have assumed that the lady wouldn't have ordered a drink or food later on. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Anthony5 Posted February 1, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2015 He was wrong, because she could have ordered the beer instead of her boyfriend, then give the beer to him. In that case she had ordered something, and the boyfriend who hadn't ordered something himself, didn't use the wifi. Good try. She would have ordered it for him, but she still wouldn't have ordered anything for herself. She'd still be sat there with nothing in front of her, using the free wifi. Most people in her situation would have thought 'fair enough' and ordered at least a coffee or a coke or something if she didn't want a beer. What exactly is wrong with ordering something if you're in a bar, taking up space and using the facilities? Common courtesy. So you start a thread with a question, but it is clear now that you made up your mind before starting the thread. Doesn't that qualify for trolling? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangmai Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 good for the bartender, likely following orders from his farang boss. I was once in a bar/diner having beers and this lady told me and my friend to "keep it down, she was working." I told her it was a bar; not a library, and she could stick her I-pad up her fat ass. Funny thing was, it was actually a guy, not even trying to be a ladyboy, must have been the pink circus pants. Even MCD has limits on WiFi users, which is probably where they should have gone to begin with. Lots of angry barstaff on LK; it's a sign of the times...high rent, new, ever changing rules, labor costs, food costs.....very tough business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiengmaijoe Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) He was wrong, because she could have ordered the beer instead of her boyfriend, then give the beer to him. In that case she had ordered something, and the boyfriend who hadn't ordered something himself, didn't use the wifi. Good try. She would have ordered it for him, but she still wouldn't have ordered anything for herself. She'd still be sat there with nothing in front of her, using the free wifi. Most people in her situation would have thought 'fair enough' and ordered at least a coffee or a coke or something if she didn't want a beer. What exactly is wrong with ordering something if you're in a bar, taking up space and using the facilities? Common courtesy. So you start a thread with a question, but it is clear now that you made up your mind before starting the thread. Doesn't that qualify for trolling? No. Is asking other people's opinion Trolling now? Actually, my view is that if the place is busy, fair enough, if it's during a quiet spell in the afternoon, no problem. The courtesy of ordering a drink would be better though. She could also have been prepared to pay for the wifi. Edited February 1, 2015 by Chiengmaijoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chicog Posted February 1, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2015 I would have given it to her. Unless you are paying for your wifi by the megabyte, it's of little concern; the boyfriend bought a beer and if she'd got interested in reading a load of emails, at the very least he might have ordered another beer and she might have had something as well. I'd rather my business was known as one with the congenial owner to which you'd like to return, rather than the one run by some miserable, mean old git. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AnotherOneAmerican Posted February 1, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2015 I would have been more concerned with two seats taken for 1 small beer. Nobody wants customers like this, the wifi was an excuse to get rid of the non paying guest. I go into a place and use their seating, I buy something. How hard is that to understand. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony5 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I would have been more concerned with two seats taken for 1 small beer. Nobody wants customers like this, the wifi was an excuse to get rid of the non paying guest. I go into a place and use their seating, I buy something. How hard is that to understand. And what if they both had ordered a 20 Baht water instead a single 80 Baht (?) small beer ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thailand Posted February 1, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2015 Perhaps they were working for TAT checking out the level of happiness in various bars? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherOneAmerican Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) I would have been more concerned with two seats taken for 1 small beer. Nobody wants customers like this, the wifi was an excuse to get rid of the non paying guest. I go into a place and use their seating, I buy something. How hard is that to understand. And what if they both had ordered a 20 Baht water instead a single 80 Baht (?) small beer ? Mark up on 2 waters is more (doubt you can buy water in a foreigner bar for 20bht). (Especially if they filled the bottles up with tap water round the back) Bars I visit are 3 large Chang for 149bht inc ice and wifi (159bht for 3 large Leo). Drink one bottle between you while using wifi, take 2 bottles home, everyone happy. Edited February 1, 2015 by AnotherOneAmerican Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sparkles Posted February 1, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2015 I have a friend who has quite a small coffee shop in CM. After a few months she had to put a 20 minute limit on the use of the wi fi as people were ordering a cup of coffee and sitting their with laptops for hours. New customers would come into the shop ,see there were no tables left and move on. She now has a sign, to that effect, at the entrance. Costs her a few customers but really had no choice. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangmai Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 there are many internet cafes that are charging 10 thb per hour, most are a lot faster than bar wifi, and a lot of them sell beers. sodas at 7-11 prices, and you can even bring in your own in many cases, so I just don't get the coffee shop free loaders.,,,it's really doing things the hard way. 30-40 thb for a cup of coffee on a hot day? No Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chingmai331 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Cannot shops survive without WiFi? Frankly i find the mobile devices generally annoying, esp the Samsung which sends out the horrid bird whistle announcing an email. God, i'd love to shove the device right into their teeth. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chiengmaijoe Posted February 1, 2015 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) I have a friend who has quite a small coffee shop in CM. After a few months she had to put a 20 minute limit on the use of the wi fi as people were ordering a cup of coffee and sitting their with laptops for hours. New customers would come into the shop ,see there were no tables left and move on. She now has a sign, to that effect, at the entrance. Costs her a few customers but really had no choice. Some people, even if they do order a coffee, will see it as entitling them to sit there as long as they want. Seeing customers come in and go out again because they can't find a table while they sit there with an empty cup in front of them for hours wouldn't concern them at all. That is pretty selfish in my eyes. It shows a lack of concern for the business owner and the person that can't come in. I've missed out on a coffee for that reason and I'm sure that plenty of others here have too. Edited February 1, 2015 by Chiengmaijoe 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post inzman Posted February 1, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2015 Seriously, a bar turned down a request for a free password to a couple who was paying for a drink. My wife doesn't drink, but always orders a water when we go to a bar. The password cost nothing , but the customer will remember this for forever. This is the problem with customer service in Thailand. You can bet with an attitude like this, the bar won't stay in business long. Getting a new customer is difficult, losing that customer is easy. I'm still shocked, they turned down a request to a couple that were paying customers that essentially would cost them nothing? What the heck? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangmai Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I'll bet they would have told them to take a hike at John's Place....the sign says "Look free, five minutes." Not, use wi-fi for free. And don't forget, it appears this was Saturday night, too....limited seats in bars. Many bars don't even let non-customers use the restroom.....they've been charging 5 thb at MCD night Bassar for years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chiengmaijoe Posted February 1, 2015 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2015 Seriously, a bar turned down a request for a free password to a couple who was paying for a drink. My wife doesn't drink, but always orders a water when we go to a bar. The password cost nothing , but the customer will remember this for forever. This is the problem with customer service in Thailand. You can bet with an attitude like this, the bar won't stay in business long. Getting a new customer is difficult, losing that customer is easy. I'm still shocked, they turned down a request to a couple that were paying customers that essentially would cost them nothing? What the heck? As far as I could hear he didn't turn down her request for a free password, he told her that it was only free if she ordered a drink. The discussion about the cost of the wifi didn't happen because they left. The seat was very quickly taken by new customers. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiengmaijoe Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 I'll bet they would have told them to take a hike at John's Place....the sign says "Look free, five minutes." Not, use wi-fi for free. And don't forget, it appears this was Saturday night, too....limited seats in bars. Many bars don't even let non-customers use the restroom.....they've been charging 5 thb at MCD night Bassar for years. With an attitude like that I doubt if they'll still be in business in another 20 years time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 AIS gives 4.5 GB for 399 Baht a month. Works for me! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKKSnowBird Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 AIS gives 4.5 GB for 399 Baht a month. Works for me! Yeap, Anyone needing a wifi password is probably a tourist so they don't care if they get pissed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Diplomatico Posted February 1, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2015 Just curious...why doesn't the guy who ordered the beer just ask for the password? Problem solved. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konying Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I would have been more concerned with two seats taken for 1 small beer. Nobody wants customers like this, the wifi was an excuse to get rid of the non paying guest. I go into a place and use their seating, I buy something. How hard is that to understand. And what if they both had ordered a 20 Baht water instead a single 80 Baht (?) small beer ? Would be just as much profit from 2 waters as from 1 beer. Bar is for drinking, internet cafe is for web surfing. Just like people who go to Star Bucks and spend hours surfing the web after purchasing 1 coffee, Starbucks introduced limits, no reason why bar should not have limits 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiengmaijoe Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 I wonder what would have happened if she'd asked for a Free Water. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post konying Posted February 1, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2015 I wonder what would have happened if she'd asked for a Free Water. Do not underestimate the quality of visitors to Thailand Not too long ago, i had 6 people come into a bar, ordering 1 water-15 baht and asking for 6 glasses with ice to share it, while also demanding for 3 tables to be moved together so they can relax and direct 2 fans towards them 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post uptheos Posted February 1, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) I wonder what would have happened if she'd asked for a Free Water. Do not underestimate the quality of visitors to Thailand Not too long ago, i had 6 people come into a bar, ordering 1 water-15 baht and asking for 6 glasses with ice to share it, while also demanding for 3 tables to be moved together so they can relax and direct 2 fans towards them Forgive me if I find this story far fetched. Edited February 1, 2015 by uptheos 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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