ExPratt Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> How can you seriously put a train doing 300Kph on line 150km long to a holiday resort, The Chinese done it on Tianjin line 120ish ks , but that's from Beijing to an Tianjin which is the 4th biggest city in China,Population 14 million But Bangkok to Pattaya , couple of dozen piss heads and ladyboys. Never happen far too expensive Financial viability has never stopped any megaproject in Thailand. Viz.. the Hopewell project, the train service Makkasan - Swampy, the expressway to Don Muang, the Bangna - Chonburi elevated expressway, the Government Complex at Chaeng Wattana, and many many others in almost every province. The only thing that EVER mattered is that the right pigs have their snout in the trough. Thainess! Agree if there is a chance of stealing a few quid from the public purse then they'll promote and propose all kinds of projects. I think High Speed on this route may raise a few eyebrows, If the built say BKK to KK then ok , Industrial and commercial link , but a high speed train to a Tourist resort over such a small distance? There would be some very awkward questions asked. Plus they can fill their boots just as much with standard Ballast track, which is the practical solution 140.160kph, do it in an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiKT Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Actually, the use of the words "High Speed Train" (HST) in this context is quite wrong and misleading. Real HST run at 300++ KPH and the fastest like the French TGV can run at over 500KPH. Non of the new lines planned for Thailand are real HST as the planned speeds are nominally160KPH with 240KPH maximum (and unlikely to be implemented in practice). So like Thai condoms, bigger is really smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExPratt Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Actually, the use of the words "High Speed Train" (HST) in this context is quite wrong and misleading. Real HST run at 300++ KPH and the fastest like the French TGV can run at over 500KPH. Non of the new lines planned for Thailand are real HST as the planned speeds are nominally160KPH with 240KPH maximum (and unlikely to be implemented in practice). So like Thai condoms, bigger is really smaller. Yes agree , You can get away with calling 220+kph high speed. But thats just enhanced ballast track .Thats why the article is preposterous , A 300kph train to a Holiday resort ? I know the TGV is the fastest potentially , not sure of the actual line speed , as you say they hit 500k in a test run I believe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiKT Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Actually, the use of the words "High Speed Train" (HST) in this context is quite wrong and misleading. Real HST run at 300++ KPH and the fastest like the French TGV can run at over 500KPH. Non of the new lines planned for Thailand are real HST as the planned speeds are nominally160KPH with 240KPH maximum (and unlikely to be implemented in practice). So like Thai condoms, bigger is really smaller. Yes agree , You can get away with calling 220+kph high speed. But thats just enhanced ballast track .Thats why the article is preposterous , A 300kph train to a Holiday resort ? I know the TGV is the fastest potentially , not sure of the actual line speed , as you say they hit 500k in a test run I believe Yes, only on tests - the current TGV world speed record is 574.8 km/h (357.2 mph), achieved on 3 April 2007 (good old Wikki). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiKT Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Bravo, this is the most sensical way to start, because, along with Chiangmai Pattaya and Hua Hin will probably be the most profitable and useful destinations. If the trains are fast and reliable, most people will prefer them to the roads, which are more dangerous and not reliable for time. The Chinese trains on the BTS are just as good as the ones from Siemens and probably a fraction of the costs, and with this government there is less risk that a huge part of the budget will be diverted in the pockets of the politicians. Actually, the Chinese made BTS trains are good, but not quite as good as the Siemens one's in all area's and a fraction of the cost! dream-on. Dream-on also if you think this government will have any real effect on corruption. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExPratt Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Bravo, this is the most sensical way to start, because, along with Chiangmai Pattaya and Hua Hin will probably be the most profitable and useful destinations. If the trains are fast and reliable, most people will prefer them to the roads, which are more dangerous and not reliable for time. The Chinese trains on the BTS are just as good as the ones from Siemens and probably a fraction of the costs, and with this government there is less risk that a huge part of the budget will be diverted in the pockets of the politicians. Actually, the Chinese made BTS trains are good, but not quite as good as the Siemens one's in all area's and a fraction of the cost! dream-on. Dream-on also if you think this government will have any real effect on corruption. Hahahahaha Yes I can't see them keeping their little hands in their little pockets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Those spouting off about Japanese or French rapid transit trains obviously haven't ridden the SRT tracks. Anything capable of 45 kph is a high-speed train here in LOS. No need for any high tech 'bullet' sh!t. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdoglover Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 When other ideas have dried up, politicians can always turn to the "High Speed Train" idea. It's time for another study, and fawning visits by foreign EPC conglomerates. I see expensive and delicious dinners. Aroy, aroy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetT Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Isnt Thailand # 2 in the World for road accident fatalities? Probably # 1, as Im told that only fatalities at the scene of the accident are included in the statistics, and not those that die later. And what about injuries? My point being that any initiative like this to get people off the roads must be good and should be given priority. ......Then there is the elephant in the room that everyone, especially petrol heads like Jeremy Clarkson, chooses to ignore: 'CLIMATE CHANGE'.......................Again, this time to reduce CO2 emmissions, the more people you can get off the road and out of the air the better and should be given absolute priority. ..............But lets all stick our heads back in the sand and ignore it until it is too late! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Maybe focus on keeping the trains you have now on the tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 (edited) Maybe focus on keeping the trains you have now on the tracks. Exactly! With the track record (pun more or less intended) of the SRT who would get on a train that runs 500 km/h in LOS? Edited February 14, 2015 by MZurf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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