What's with all the bad feelings against Russians in Phuket?

[sawadee1947]

It's the same old story.......

Why do you dislike, Thais, Americans, British, Greeks, Martians?

People that dislike other nationalities are either racists or they have a habit of doing that as they don't like their own selves either.

or got bad experience with them...one for all???

[robblok]

It's the same old story.......

Why do you dislike, Thais, Americans, British, Greeks, Martians?

People that dislike other nationalities are either racists or they have a habit of doing that as they don't like their own selves either.

I am glad you mentioned the #@^*&ing Greeks!

Welllllllllll......you being one, how can I forget them?

I know I can't they are costing me money. If there were ever people who deserved a bad rep its the Greeks.

[Jiggo]

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Should have Nuked 'Em when we had the chance...

[dotpoom]

I suppose you could compare it to your personal experience....If I want the respect of others....."I have to earn it"..... If I feel I am not respected by others...It is myself I look to for the reasons why.......not to the "others".

[grumpyoldman]

Check the outcome of the surly Turkish guy in Samui. Obviously somebody didn't like him!

[srn89]

My personal experience with them, purchased a t.v. from some in C-Mai, worked for 3 days only, took a long time to get them to agree to refund money, found them to be Very Aggressive, smashed the lock on my gate and threatened me with a clenched fist, i dont want to know any of them anymore, personal feeling is ( if they were on fire i would not even P--S on them.

[kerrysum]

Disliking other nationalities is racism?

In actuality?

I would call it misunderstanding... If one has not lived there, they really wouldn't know. (would they?)

I did meet some great Russian Craftsmen right here in Las Vegas, Nevada. They were marble layers in a casino, that I worked at, during construction. I liked what they did, and they had a great sense of pride in their work.... We talked and became friends, they had a real desire for craftsmanship.... I was raised the same way, in America....

I personally enjoyed talking to them, and liked what they said....

As for Thailand? I truly cannot say.... But they were true craftsmen, and I respected them for their skills.....

Just a thought.....

Or is it just a thought that we shall never forget our heritage?

Or is your heritage racism? Dunno

[Pdavies99]

Well before I say anything I will agree many nationalities have failings.

The issue with Balkan states / Russians is :

They in their manners appear to talk down to Thais and display poor manners.

They ignore other tourists or are blatantly confrontational.

They walk into restaurants and bars without a shirt on, sweating away and push past you!

They never smile or make any effort to be cordial.

They don't spend money!

They walk around or sit on the road edge at 7-11s swigging beer out of bottles.

So thats it! But like I said, many other countries have the same......just not so many!

Have a great day!

[captainhornblower]

That's why it's great to be Australian. Everyone loves an Aussie!

[captainhornblower]

In your dreams codswallop!

[KarenBravo]

Hmmmm.......have a friend who runs a game-fishing operation. He tells me that without the Russians, his business would have folded a couple of years ago.

Villa market has a very sizeable Russian clientèle and the main nationality buying property at the moment is Russian. Therefore, I don't really believe that the Russians don't spend.

They certainly spend more than the Chinese and Koreans.

[NoshowJones]

It's the same old story.......

Why do you dislike, Thais, Americans, British, Greeks, Martians?

People that dislike other nationalities are either racists or they have a habit of doing that as they don't like their own selves either.

I dislike the French Costas, nothing to do with racism. I had a three day visit in Paris, and came across right idiots, I am talking about people in authority, and not immigration.

I will mention just one of those idiots. I was taking photos of the Eiffel Tower from at least half a mile away, and this policeman started shouting at me "no photos". I told him to f-ck off, took another photo, pointed to the camera, and just laughed at him. This is not just one isolated incident.

[Powerhousesteve]

I have had much experience of Russians, in many different countries, I have travelled a lot, it is not racism to speak as you find, I have met some very nice Russians, and Nigerians, but the Russians have turned part of Pattaya into a toilet, the area of the beach that they frequent has turned into a loud, dirty place, where cigarette ends are gradually replacing the sand, they shout all day as they sunbathe, they do not seem to like other nationalities much, I prefer Thai's all day long, and it is a well known fact, statistics support it, Nigerians are some of the worst scammers on the planet, so do we pretend that it is not so just because we do not want to be accused of racism??? I have people occasionally make comments to me that English tourists can be a pain on their 18-30 holidays etc, I do not argue about it as know it can be true, everyone is entitled to their opinion and when you get 30-40 people telling you that the Russians have ruined an area, are they ALL lying??? making it up??? I have seen first hand the change in the little beach near Pattaya that I used to use (as it was fairly quiet) now it is a toilet, the Thai's are not the problem, they just appreciate the Russian money (you can't blame them for that) but the beach is now not a good place to go. If I can just quote an Indian friend of mine, who moved away from his family, in the UK because he married his wife without parental approval, after several years he divorced, and moved back to his parents home in East London, after a few days he came into work moaning, I asked him what was wrong, his answer shocked, and amused me, he replied "f***ing Indians" I asked what he meant, he said "they move in, each house has too many cars, there is nowhere to park, on our public holidays, and celebrations they block the bloody roads without a care for anyone else" his rant actually went on a LOT longer, he finished with the comment that he never realised until he lived outside of the environment for some years, then had to move back, now my question to you is, was he being racist, or stating a fact? a fact does not change just because you do not want to appear racist, if you make a table of the best, and worst tourists, is it racist if the English do not appear to be the best tourists?, or is it a fact? I speak as I find, I have found a few Thai's that can be obnoxious but a majority are lovely people, it is why I like coming to Thailand, I prefer Thai's to Russians, or Nigerians, is that a racist statement? or a fact?

[NoshowJones]

A couple of instances of attempted queue jumping at BigC, wandering around in Malls without shirts and inconsiderate smoking brought them to my attention. They seemed to be horribly rude to Thais attempting to serve them.

I certainly wasn't looking for them.

Likely it was the sheer (overwhelming) numbers and how they behaved in crowds that shone a spotlight..... fewer this year thankfully.

Sorry I am in Pattaya.

I am just back from Pattaya. The next time I go, if I can find anyone who prints T shirts, I am going to get "I HATE SHIRTLESS GUYS WITH FAT BELLIES" printed on one, wear it, walk along Beach Road, and through Malls etc, and show it to those revolting looking people who have no shame.

[Powerhousesteve]

I should add to my previous, The Russians are good neighbours, ask the Ukrainians, or is that a racist statement?

[Wat dee]

Nationalism, racial prejudice, sexism, dualistic fake democracy and religion and various other kinds of divisions are necessary to keep humanity manageable by a tiny elite, who without the ongoing production of strife, war and tension would be unable to acquire and keep the majority of assets and ensure the vast majority of people are firmly in their employ.

Why bring up USA , Post was about Russians.

[BudfahRuksa]

..and to add to PowerhouseSteve`s post ..people like to observe and compare ..it isnt a bad thing to be judgemental either. You have to make judgements about who is around you and whether they are good for you or not..sometimes it can be a matter of life and death so I dont care being called racist because I know that I am not I use the same gauge for all people I encounter.. and sometimes patterns emerge ..just saying it how it is for me.

[Powerhousesteve]

BudfahRuksa, absolutely right my friend, we must all have our own opinion, I am not saying that I have any hostility towards the Russians, what I am saying is that I do NOT go to Pattaya anymore as the Russians have spoiled it IN MY OPINION, I do not want to spend any time in their company.

[LivinginKata]

off topic posts removed.

[CapeThai]

Maybe post the same topic but with Brits or Americans as the headline next and see what the Russians has you say about you lot.....

Only fair don't you think as your shit stinks as well. But hey, we don't all think like this do we ?

[Doc46]

Same shit different people why do you dislike /like anyone ??????

[micmichd]

Crowds look frightening, individuals in crowds are sometimes nice.

[Mudcrab]

A couple of instances of attempted queue jumping at BigC, wandering around in Malls without shirts and inconsiderate smoking brought them to my attention. They seemed to be horribly rude to Thais attempting to serve them.

I certainly wasn't looking for them.

Likely it was the sheer (overwhelming) numbers and how they behaved in crowds that shone a spotlight..... fewer this year thankfully.

Sorry I am in Pattaya.

I am just back from Pattaya. The next time I go, if I can find anyone who prints T shirts, I am going to get "I HATE SHIRTLESS GUYS WITH FAT BELLIES" printed on one, wear it, walk along Beach Road, and through Malls etc, and show it to those revolting looking people who have no shame.

And on the back you could have "but I do like shirtless young buff guys with great abs"

[NoshowJones]

A couple of instances of attempted queue jumping at BigC, wandering around in Malls without shirts and inconsiderate smoking brought them to my attention. They seemed to be horribly rude to Thais attempting to serve them.

I certainly wasn't looking for them.

Likely it was the sheer (overwhelming) numbers and how they behaved in crowds that shone a spotlight..... fewer this year thankfully.

Sorry I am in Pattaya.

I am just back from Pattaya. The next time I go, if I can find anyone who prints T shirts, I am going to get "I HATE SHIRTLESS GUYS WITH FAT BELLIES" printed on one, wear it, walk along Beach Road, and through Malls etc, and show it to those revolting looking people who have no shame.

And on the back you could have "but I do like shirtless young buff guys with great abs"

No I could not, you get young shirtless beer bellied guys also. Being shirtless is ok on the beach, sunbathing, or playng certain sports, not for walking about in public. Anyway what is abs?

[ozyjon]

I don't speak French and don't like them.

So there.

[Andre0720]

Hmmmm.......have a friend who runs a game-fishing operation. He tells me that without the Russians, his business would have folded a couple of years ago.

Villa market has a very sizeable Russian clientèle and the main nationality buying property at the moment is Russian. Therefore, I don't really believe that the Russians don't spend.

They certainly spend more than the Chinese and Koreans.

Villa Market..

So you consider people feeding theselves as 'big spenders' do you?

[cgphuket]

They can sometimes be basically pleasant, but I think the per capita illegal activities are pretty telling. I worked with several in Phuket, and while they were not exactly thugs, they were the laziest and whiniest staff we had. Funny, I don't mind Russians when I am in Russia, but the ones who travel, seem to be the worse. Perhaps because the majority who have the money to travel did not come by it honestly, consider what how poor the average Russian still is?

[micmichd]

"Non olet" as far as I remember ("smells not")

Big Money is made by white collar crime in the Western World, and there would be no such thing as money if nobody would work for it.

Who are you to throw the first stone?

[umbanda]

I just don't like Russian men. I wish they would all boot off and leave their women behind

The women are nice on the eyes but that's about it.

They can be cold as ice and if you do marry one, you get the mother tagging along as part of the package.

After reading so much bad reports in Thai women about just looking for money, I have to believe that TV men do not know about Russian women..

I know many "smart" guys getting broke after getting married with Russians.....I have to admit that Russian women are really very beautiful and sexy...but also its know how to use its attributes to get everything...Too smart for some Westerners.

Probably they are making a killing in Pattaya..also with Thai guys. If Russian men are like Russian women.....

[KarenBravo]

Hmmmm.......have a friend who runs a game-fishing operation. He tells me that without the Russians, his business would have folded a couple of years ago.

Villa market has a very sizeable Russian clientèle and the main nationality buying property at the moment is Russian. Therefore, I don't really believe that the Russians don't spend.

They certainly spend more than the Chinese and Koreans.

Villa Market..

So you consider people feeding theselves as 'big spenders' do you?

You obviously haven't seen the prices at Villa Mart, or, the kind of food they stock, have you?

Come back when you have a bit more local knowledge.