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hi i am planning to bring my wife and her daughter to england on a settlement visa and apply for both at the same time.i have been reading that it is more straight forward if we do the visas at the same time.my question is why is it more straightforward than leaving the daughter behind and applying for her at a later date? she lives with her mother and has not seen her father for 12 years she is on the tabien bahn housebook.what other information do i need for the daughters visa regards jim

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Very often the biggest hurdle to overcome in a child settlement visa is showing that the sponsoring parent has been exercising sole responsibility over the child.

Obviously this will be far easier to do if parent and child live together and apply at the same time than if they have been separated with the parent living in the UK and the child in Thailand (or wherever).

You may find UK settlement visa basics helpful.

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Yes I would most strongly advocate applying for both at the same time. We did a visitor visa last year and have just handed in settlement visa applications about 1 week ago. The first question the staff at Trendy Building ask is do you have a letter from the local office confirming that you have sole custody? So first step is that I would get that and build a portfolio of evidence in terms of pictures showing you all as a family over as long a period of time as possible. Wise words from 7by7. The ECO will not just take your word for it that your wife has exercised sole responsibility for the child

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Thanks for the replies Am i right in believeing the kor por 14 is not sufficent enough for sole custody ? And what else is needed?

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You are correct but it is a good start. That plus pictures of us together as a family was enough for a visitor visa last year. Settlement visa more difficult but I am assuming that you are living together in Thailand so really if that has been the case for more than a few months and you have the kor por 14 together with photographic evidence covering a reasonable period of time then I would hope that would be enough. If you could get a letter from the natural father conceding that your wife has had sole custody and saying he has no objection to the move then that would make it perfect but that is not usually a runner.

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Thanks again for the reply my wife is in thailand with daughter i am in england working.the daughter still has the fathers surname.also if her father cannot be found to a consenting letter what would be the next correct steps to take regards

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I have to be honest and say that I am not sure. Somehow your wife will have to provide evidence to show that she has been the sole support of her daughter. There is no definitive answer to this simply weight of evidence. How old is her daughter? if she is old enough then I think her testimony could have a bearing. Hopefully Tony M or 7by7 or theoldgit will have something more concrete to offer.

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When I applied for my wife and her son's settlement visa's last year we included receipts from the school and doctors to help prove sole responsibility, we also asked the head of her village and my wife's cousin to write a short letter to confirm my wife was solely responsible for her son's upbringing. Kor por 14 was also included and visas were granted, hope this helps, good luck with the applications.

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Thanks jim young i am definately going to get the kor phor 14 and some receipts letters .just hope it is sufficent as we will apply for both visas at the same time.

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If you could get a letter from the natural father conceding that your wife has had sole custody and saying he has no objection to the move then that would make it perfect but that is not usually a runner.

I disagree.

Such a letter could be construed by the ECO as the father exercising some responsibility for the child.

Have a read of 'Children' in UK settlement visa basics, and the guidance to ECOs for child settlement applications.

If mother and child have been living together for some time, and still are at the time of the applications, it should be straightforward. The difficulties usually come when parent and child have been living apart.

A P.K. 14, whilst not official evidence of sole custody, will help show that mother and child do live together and that the mother is solely responsible for the child (assuming that is the case).

If she does have a sole custody order, either from the ampur or a court, this will also help; but as jimyoung's experience, and that of other's, this is not essential, unless there is some doubt over custody/responsibility.

Include other evidence of them living together; school reports, etc. as suggested; but I don't see the need for lots of photos. These would show they have spent time together, but not that the child lives with her mother!

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