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Hi all,

I am trying to find out the common name for a scented shrub (small tree) that has a beautiful aroma when in flower....The flower is white when the tree is in bloom, and the tree is literally covered with them

It is common in Asia, but I know it's also in Australia. Once you smell the aroma you never forget it.

It's everywhere in Vietnam and places north. It has a chinese name....I know the Thai name for it (I think)....but I want to make sure before I purchase them.

Would appreciate your replies, as i want to plant some of them here....Thanks

Rgds

weegee

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Update....the way it's pronounced in Thai could be....Lee la watdee...sorry about the spelling but it sounds like that.

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Hi Weegee I think that the plant you are talking about is known to most of us as Frangipani or Plumeria is the latin name. There is a white form quite common here as you say highly scented, but there are loads of different colours available, we have at least 15 different in our garden. If near Bangkok the plant market at Chatuchak every Wednesday and Thursday has a couple of specialist growers who have many different varieties for sale. Be careful especially with kids around from memory the latex like sap is very poisonous.

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weegee,

does it smell more in the evening?

if so i think it will be the jasmin, loads of small white flowers that atract small huming birds, ive got lots round our house,

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I had both Frangipani and Jasmine. The Frangipani really didn't have a strong aroma but the Jasmine certainly did. It had a strong lovely perfume smell that you could smell from quite a distance.

//as per pigeonjake, the Jasmine smell was highest in the evenings.

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if it's " Lee la watdee." Op's spelling!

It would be Frangipani AKA Plumeria.... the white flowered one is the most fragrant ... some other colours have no scene!

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By the description it also could be Murruya Panniculatta - native to all SE Asia and down to the northern tip of Australia. Is often used as a hedge plant but can grow to a small tree (or a narrow tall tree in Rainforest) . Very versatile and useful landscaping plant with an amazing scent .Thai name from wiki is แก้ว [kɛ̂ːw] . one of the common names is Orange jasamine but is also commonly called just murraya .Responds well to clipping and shaping.

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If it is this one then it is Plumeria,if it's wrong then blame my Missus.biggrin.png

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The Mrs is right.... isn't she always right? Shaggy! tongue.pngwhistling.gif

Personally I like the smell of this more than the Jasmine, Xen has posted a picture of... I find that very sickly smelling.....

Anyone who has been to Hawaii, will be been "lied" with the Plumeria "necklace"....

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Thank you everyone...The name i was trying to remember(find out) was "JASMINE".....beautiful smelling plant, that attracts birds, I believe.

I appreciate all your inputs

Thanks again

weegee

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Thank you everyone...The name i was trying to remember(find out) was "JASMINE".....beautiful smelling plant, that attracts birds, I believe.

I appreciate all your inputs

Thanks again

weegee

Maybe a foto would help next time?

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Thank you everyone...The name i was trying to remember(find out) was "JASMINE".....beautiful smelling plant, that attracts birds, I believe.

I appreciate all your inputs

Thanks again

weegee

Maybe a foto would help next time?

I didnt have a plant to take one....lol... Let alone remember what it was......But I am happier than a kid in a toy shop, thanks to the members.

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some one ask for pics,

weegee, mac says its called MOK not to sure about the spelloing but thats what she who is never wrong told me,,lol

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I have one outside my bedroom window, asked the missus who said "dok puut"

edit to say I only read Jake's post, I have the tree in his photo, I'll go and smell them now

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OK...we are identifying it many ways....mrs says it's "Dok Kaew"...."Jasmine.

Mrs says now she knows what we are talking about....everyone is right who posted...Dok Puut doesnt have the smell.

MOK...pronounced MORK around here....is similar....but not the real Jasmine....

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but weve got there in the end weegee,

good old TV lol

You are sure right on that one mate.....Best source of info anywhere. Thanks to members who stick together.

Why people rag the forum I dont know....

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OK the tree with white flowers in Jake's photo is Dok Mok, the missus says dok puut that I have originates from Vietnam. There is apparently a Thai Dok Puut that is growing here somewhere but I've got to get her to point it out to me, it is fragrant as is Dok Mok which I have a photo of but not in flower yet. It is fragrant in the evening and you can also put a sprig of it in your shirt pocket when you go to a funeral for good luck. Sorry if I'm repeating known known's here, edited for glaring mistake

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Bluetongue. The first photo is Murruya panniculata and my gf says the common thai name is dok keuu ( i think that is what she said translated into written English). There is one in front of this place in BKK that they periodically hack into .

The second and third photo - does the plant have a sticky milky sap ?

Pigeon Jake , does the jasmine you have shown have thorns ?

My plant ident is very rusty nowdays and it is hurting my brain as i think i recognize them but can't remember the botanical names . Next i won't be able to sleep until i remember them .

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Bluetongue. The first photo is Murruya panniculata and my gf says the common thai name is dok keuu ( i think that is what she said translated into written English). There is one in front of this place in BKK that they periodically hack into .

The second and third photo - does the plant have a sticky milky sap ?

Pigeon Jake , does the jasmine you have shown have thorns ?

My plant ident is very rusty nowdays and it is hurting my brain as i think i recognize them but can't remember the botanical names . Next i won't be able to sleep until i remember them .

LOL....thats what happened to me...couldnt sleep....so decided to post the topic to find out....

Bluetongue....the photo of the large tree is what i want to grow here....

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This one has the strongest scent I have come across. Gets covered in a small red flower with a perfume like smell that can stretch 20 / 30 metres.

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Bluetongue. The first photo is Murruya panniculata and my gf says the common thai name is dok keuu ( i think that is what she said translated into written English). There is one in front of this place in BKK that they periodically hack into .

The second and third photo - does the plant have a sticky milky sap ?

Pigeon Jake , does the jasmine you have shown have thorns ?

My plant ident is very rusty nowdays and it is hurting my brain as i think i recognize them but can't remember the botanical names . Next i won't be able to sleep until i remember them .

xen,

no mate no thorns,

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This one has the strongest scent I have come across. Gets covered in a small red flower with a perfume like smell that can stretch 20 / 30 metres.

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Nice tidy, and clean yard you have there....

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This one has the strongest scent I have come across. Gets covered in a small red flower with a perfume like smell that can stretch 20 / 30 metres.

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What's it called? I'm building a perfumed garden.

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Regards.

I'll start a new "fragrant" thread in the garden section.

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This one has the strongest scent I have come across. Gets covered in a small red flower with a perfume like smell that can stretch 20 / 30 metres.

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What's it called? I'm building a perfumed garden.

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Regards.

I'll start a new "fragrant" thread in the garden section.

I asked my wife what it is called and she can't remember, 5 years since she put them in. I tried google but not much success.

It is in flower at the moment, looking and smelling very nice. Also a close up of the flower, leaves are quite small. 1 inch max.

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Sigh, 200 years developing botany into a science and we get 'what's the common name?'

With the Latin name you can communicate with anyone in the world.

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Sigh, 200 years developing botany into a science and we get 'what's the common name?'

With the Latin name you can communicate with anyone in the world.

Agree . It is one of the few truly international languages. And because of the science element there is a logic attached to the botanical names. I remember my first year of Botany thinking how would i ever learn this but with a good teacher and a bit of Latin from previous studies it was not so hard as i had thought. Common names are so un-precise and open to local conditions . i have been chastised for not knowing the local or common name when being able to identify the botanical name but found if you make up a name on the spot a lot of people are satisfied . Who can disagree with the validity of that common name.smile.png

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I imagined school kids in Rome 2000 years ago being told the name of a plant in English and asking 'yes, yes, but what's its common name?'.

I hated Latin at school but it really was helpful later on.

My favourite common name invention was ' Young virgin's blush' which to my surprise was accepted without hesitation. I attended a few plant determination meetings and would write down the names for people looking for names. In Latin. I nearly always got 'yes but what is the common name?'. This in a place where we had three languages and the names were called differently from one village to another.

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The name DOK PUUT ( dok putt ) has been mentioned and my TGF agrees thAT s the name of the fragrant shrub.... Anyone knows the ENGLISH or Botanical name of

DOK PUUT ) ?

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