Searat7 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Their airplanes need to be inspected and the airline should be shut down if they are not up to standard. Also they should be investigated to find out how much they are paying for storing all of the old planes....these need to be sold or scrapped ASAP....influential owner or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post docshock13 Posted March 31, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2015 Here's an interesting read www.investigateudom.com 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Report on the flight http://avherald.com/h?article=483fc32e Hard to believe this airline is still in existence with their 1-2-Go debacle in Phuket. Couldn't pay me to get on one of their aircraft. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-Two-GO_Airlines_Flight_269 "Well used" aircraft http://www.airfleets.net/ageflotte/Orient%20Thai%20Airlines.htm I couldn't agree more. That company utilise nothing but flying coffins. Anyone who flies with them needs their head examining in my opinion. It wasn't that jumbo that was parked at Udon for years was it ??? or similar aircraft. Boeing 737-300 some 23 years old or so. I think the 747 you mean is coke cans by now! Sure it never flew again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Something at this story is strange: "Flight OX682 was carrying Chinese tourists home from Phuket when the engine failed, and the rate of descent was so fast many passengers suffered from nosebleeds and fainted due to the sudden loss of altitude." If one engine fails nothing big should happen. Can fly with only one. It must have really fallen down with extreme g forces to cause nosebleeding and people faint..... And the attendants should calm the people not brake down. There is more about this story than a malfunction of an engine. http://avherald.com/h?article=483fc32e&opt=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lumply Posted March 31, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2015 This is another example of sensational reporting. The engine did not fail but there was a fault in the oxygen system. The pilots initiated a rapid descent from their cruising altitude down to the oxygen level of 10,000ft initially, and landed the aircraft safely. Dramatic for the pax, yes, but pretty much in a day's work for your average pilot which is practiced umpteen times by them and it's part of the many emergency procedures carried out when necessary. Well done to the pilots who did their jobs to the book and everyone walked away, shaken but alive. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphMichaels Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Their record speaks for itself. Always been known that the executives have "ties", buy questionable used aircraft, and are not properly held to the maintenance standards they should be. Reportedly have 12 aircraft in service. I'd not step foot on one of them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 "Meanwhile the Ministry of Information and Communication Technology blocked access to the Daily Mail saying the site had inappropriate contents." Seems there's more and more of this blocking business everyday. For the government spies reading our posts: The truth hurts sometimes but it's better than hearing lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Yesterday my big bike had to go for service to the Honda dealer (8000 km). They changed the oil and that was it. After reading this thread i decided to check the maintenance schedule and of course they had to check/replace many more parts then just the oil. Now my dealer has a problem. I'm tired of the Thai and their way of maintenance. You just can't trust them! alt=bah.gif> Wow, your big bike, eh? You must be a big man then if you have a big bike, yes? Is maintenance on a big bike so much more special than on a smaller bike that you have to emphasise the size to everyone? Yes, because big bikes go faster, cost more and are more dangerous to drive. I would expect Honda to have real trained mechanics. But not in Thailand unfotrunately. I also have a small bike, but it didn't go for service this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveyinasia Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 This is why the international body is banning Thai flights, the local DCA are useless in allowing this company to still operate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaalle Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) My girlfriend was on a flight from Phuket to BKK last night and she called me after and said they had strong turbulence and a drop in altitude which resulted in some people starting to scream. I don't know how if or how much she exaggerated but she was genuinely upset. It was Lion Air btw. A lot of trouble with flying lately. Edited March 31, 2015 by Kaalle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudhopper Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Nosebleeds? Fainting? From descending too fast?? Engine failure would not cause rapid decent more likely loss of cabin pressure and the crew performing SOP in getting the aircraft bellow 10000ft ASAP. Yes rapid (and it probably wasn't in this case) decompression is typically not uncomfortable. Rapid recompression from the high descent rate can be very painful however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4UCorsair Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Nosebleeds? Fainting? From descending too fast?? Sounds like BS to me, maybe sensationalist reporting......or both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I believe Orient Thai is the sister company of One-Two-Go which was banned from EU operations in 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Report on the flight http://avherald.com/h?article=483fc32eHard to believe this airline is still in existence with their 1-2-Go debacle in Phuket. Couldn't pay me to get on one of their aircraft.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-Two-GO_Airlines_Flight_269"Well used" aircraft http://www.airfleets.net/ageflotte/Orient%20Thai%20Airlines.htm I couldn't agree more. That company utilise nothing but flying coffins. Anyone who flies with them needs their head examining in my opinion. It wasn't that jumbo that was parked at Udon for years was it ??? or similar aircraft. Apparently this was a 737-300 (old as dirt). I saw that 747 at Udon. Have a photo of it somewhere. It should be in a museum somewhere. Not to try and blackcat, but we still have two 747's up here in Phitsanulok sitting either side of the terminal. They won't be going anywhere soon however, as someone stole the engines........................ No joke, they had an inquiry a couple of years ago as to what happened to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 That would be terrifying. Glad they were able to put it down safely. Yes, kudos to the pilots who averted a total disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searat7 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I believe Orient Thai is the sister company of One-Two-Go which was banned from EU operations in 2009Not long after the Phuket accident they canned the name One-Two-Go and just used Orient Thai name on all planes. Previously only the 747's were considered Orient Thai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gudtymchuk Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Report on the flight http://avherald.com/h?article=483fc32e Hard to believe this airline is still in existence with their 1-2-Go debacle in Phuket. Couldn't pay me to get on one of their aircraft. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-Two-GO_Airlines_Flight_269 "Well used" aircraft http://www.airfleets.net/ageflotte/Orient%20Thai%20Airlines.htm I couldn't agree more. That company utilise nothing but flying coffins. Anyone who flies with them needs their head examining in my opinion. It wasn't that jumbo that was parked at Udon for years was it ??? or similar aircraft. Nope, but the failed engine might have been.... They did go missing long before the airplane left the udon airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Nosebleeds? Fainting? From descending too fast?? How many flights have you been on that nearly crashed, due to sudden, massive loss of altitude? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
empireboy Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I hope Thailand get so much bad press over this issue that if for no other reason, they are shamed into getting their fleet up to par and more! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperylobster Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 That would be terrifying. Glad they were able to put it down safely. Refreshing to see a pilot working hard to save passengers, crew and aircraft...rather than locking the door and nose diving it into a mountain or ocean. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLing Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) URGENT Enquiry needed to bolster confidence If you have a couple of hours time, try reading the inquiry in to the Phuket disaster of One2Go. Orient Thai should not even be allowed to exist anymore and the owners should be in jail since a long time already and not risking peoples life's every time they board a plane. http://www.investigateudom.com/ It definitely didn't bolster my confidence. I feel Thailand should be avoided by all airlines until they manage to satisfy minimal international standards. Edited March 31, 2015 by JoeLing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johnno2 Posted March 31, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2015 Nosebleeds? Fainting? From descending too fast?? Engine failure would not cause rapid decent more likely loss of cabin pressure and the crew performing SOP in getting the aircraft bellow 10000ft ASAP. I hate it when people talk sense. yes folks, the guy who wrote the article knows jack shit about what happened. there was no engine failure, just a loss of engine bleed air. bleed air is air taken from the engine to power many of the things required to make the aircraft comfortable to fly in such as air conditioning which is also used to pressurize the cabin. the cabin is pressurized at about 8,000 feet ie once you fly over 8,000 feet, you require the cabin to be pressurized or else you would find it difficult to breath and your ears would start hurting. so when you lose pressurization, the first thing a pilot does is to get the aircraft at around 8,000 feet as quickly as he can. so you can imagine it would hurt your ears if you are flying at 20,000 feet and the aircraft starts to lose pressurization and I don't think your stomach would take kindly to the quick descent also. so move on please, there's nothing to be seen in this article except more sensationalist journalism. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4UCorsair Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I always assumed forward momentum and glide ratio would prevent a plane from falling from the sky?Any aircraft can stall at any speed. When it stalls, sometimes the pilot can reestablish laminar flow over the wings and sometimes they cannot. In any case it takes time to recover from a stall and during that time, it falls like a lead balloon. An aircraft can't stall at any speed. It was reported that an engine failed, not that it stalled. In any event, altitude is the only requirement to escape a stall, and modern jet transports don't stall. They are programmed to override pilot control inputs to avoid stalling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 It does not take much of a change in pressure to have a significant effect on the human body. I have seen stretcher cases where cabin pressurisation tests have gone wrong on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperylobster Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I always assumed forward momentum and glide ratio would prevent a plane from falling from the sky?Any aircraft can stall at any speed. When it stalls, sometimes the pilot can reestablish laminar flow over the wings and sometimes they cannot. In any case it takes time to recover from a stall and during that time, it falls like a lead balloon. An aircraft can't stall at any speed. It was reported that an engine failed, not that it stalled. In any event, altitude is the only requirement to escape a stall, and modern jet transports don't stall. They are programmed to override pilot control inputs to avoid stalling. Just wondering....about that air asia indonesia flight....was that not a stall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Report on the flight http://avherald.com/h?article=483fc32e Hard to believe this airline is still in existence with their 1-2-Go debacle in Phuket. Couldn't pay me to get on one of their aircraft. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-Two-GO_Airlines_Flight_269 "Well used" aircraft http://www.airfleets.net/ageflotte/Orient%20Thai%20Airlines.htm I'm told that an ex kamikaze pilots are flying those death traps for an airplanes.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MobileContent Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I think for Prayuth now would be a good time to close down Orient Thai. Scary planes and I have ignored them all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) 10 years after the first complaints about airline safety from the UN and nothing happened. Here is a new slogan for Thai aviation: "the sky is the limit- but it ends with our people's common sense and understanding of operations" Edited March 31, 2015 by Lupatria 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGS1244 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 This is another example of sensational reporting. The engine did not fail but there was a fault in the oxygen system. The pilots initiated a rapid descent from their cruising altitude down to the oxygen level of 10,000ft initially, and landed the aircraft safely. Dramatic for the pax, yes, but pretty much in a day's work for your average pilot which is practiced umpteen times by them and it's part of the many emergency procedures carried out when necessary. Well done to the pilots who did their jobs to the book and everyone walked away, shaken but alive. Obviously you know something no body else does??? All the reports coming out including those in China mention engine failure. Anyone who says that during an engin failure planes do not descend very rapidly as indicated have not studied aircraft accidents. They can, and have. dropped like stones just look at the Trident that crashed in Staines UK some years ago. Flying altitude to ground in a few seconds. The dropping speed required for passengers to have nose bleeds etc. is far more than what a normal high speed pilot controlled descent would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I always assumed forward momentum and glide ratio would prevent a plane from falling from the sky?Any aircraft can stall at any speed. When it stalls, sometimes the pilot can reestablish laminar flow over the wings and sometimes they cannot. In any case it takes time to recover from a stall and during that time, it falls like a lead balloon. An aircraft can't stall at any speed. Wrong. A stall is induced when the airflow over the aerofoil is insufficient to maintain the lift required. The aerofoil is in fact variable so stall parameters vary depending on wing configuration at the time. Stall recovery is part a pilots basic training but in modern aircraft stall warning systems make it a very rare occurrence. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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