webfact Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Orient Thai plunges from sky after engine failsBy Coconuts BangkokPhoto: CCTV+BANGKOK: -- An engine on an Orient Thai Airlines flight failed on Saturday, causing the plane to fall from the sky so fast that panic erupted among the crew and passengers before it was able to safely make an emergency landing.Flight OX682 was carrying Chinese tourists home from Phuket when the engine failed, and the rate of descent was so fast many passengers suffered from nosebleeds and fainted due to the sudden loss of altitude.Some flight attendants reportedly began crying and oxygen masks were deployed, before the flight was stabilized and was forced to make an emergency landing in Kunming, China.Passenger Lixue Ku, 47, told Daily Mail people were screaming and crying as they feared the plane would break apart in the sky or crash.Full story: http://bangkok.coconuts.co/2015/03/31/orient-thai-plunges-sky-after-engine-fails-- Coconuts Bangkok 2015-03-31 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lust Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Nosebleeds? Fainting? From descending too fast?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thian Posted March 31, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) Oh nooo, more bad news for thai aviation. Who will fly with any of them from now on? Not me or my collegues.... But this happened saturday? Then why it's in the news on tuesday?? Edited March 31, 2015 by Thian 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sealbash Posted March 31, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2015 I always assumed forward momentum and glide ratio would prevent a plane from falling from the sky? 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johnnynmonic Posted March 31, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2015 That would be terrifying. Glad they were able to put it down safely. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fritzzz25 Posted March 31, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) Report on the flight http://avherald.com/h?article=483fc32e Hard to believe this airline is still in existence with their 1-2-Go debacle in Phuket. Couldn't pay me to get on one of their aircraft. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-Two-GO_Airlines_Flight_269 "Well used" aircraft http://www.airfleets.net/ageflotte/Orient%20Thai%20Airlines.htm Edited March 31, 2015 by fritzzz25 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kingalfred Posted March 31, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2015 Oldest planes in Asia. Have a look at them! Amazing they are still allowed to fly. But this is Amazing Thailand! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HeijoshinCool Posted March 31, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2015 Nosebleeds? Fainting? From descending too fast?? . It's called barotrauma. Scuba and sky divers can suffer from it. After the suicidal/homicidal pilot of just days ago, it's easy to imagine what the assumption of most people would have been. Pretty terrifying, no doubt. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NCC1701A Posted March 31, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2015 wow... maybe Japan, Korea and soon the rest of the world are right... 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Don't tell the UN agency!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansgruber Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I'm pretty sure they are banned from flying to Europe. I recall a story about it a few years ago. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post baboon Posted March 31, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2015 Report on the flight http://avherald.com/h?article=483fc32e Hard to believe this airline is still in existence with their 1-2-Go debacle in Phuket. Couldn't pay me to get on one of their aircraft. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-Two-GO_Airlines_Flight_269 "Well used" aircraft http://www.airfleets.net/ageflotte/Orient%20Thai%20Airlines.htm I couldn't agree more. That company utilise nothing but flying coffins. Anyone who flies with them needs their head examining in my opinion. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ginjag Posted March 31, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2015 Oh nooo, more bad news for thai aviation. Who will fly with any of them from now on? Not me or my collegues.... But this happened saturday? Then why it's in the news on tuesday?? Because the journalist are afraid of being shot by a certain prime minister/general. Must be one of the anti PM brigade, how ridiculous to state Quote "being shot " 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Report on the flight http://avherald.com/h?article=483fc32e Hard to believe this airline is still in existence with their 1-2-Go debacle in Phuket. Couldn't pay me to get on one of their aircraft. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-Two-GO_Airlines_Flight_269 "Well used" aircraft http://www.airfleets.net/ageflotte/Orient%20Thai%20Airlines.htm I couldn't agree more. That company utilise nothing but flying coffins. Anyone who flies with them needs their head examining in my opinion. It wasn't that jumbo that was parked at Udon for years was it ??? or similar aircraft. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NeverSure Posted March 31, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) I always assumed forward momentum and glide ratio would prevent a plane from falling from the sky? Just a guess at this point. Combined with the nosebleeds and loss of engine a hunch is that it had rapid decompression and they dived to get low enough for atmospheric pressure to provide oxygen to the cabin. That's a guess. Cabin pressure is often maintained by energy from an engine or engines so my guess is additive. Edited March 31, 2015 by NeverSure 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post trainman34014 Posted March 31, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2015 Another typical Thai news cover up...'It never happened '....'Sweep it under the carpet '....'It was Yingluck's fault '....Heads in the sand.....Living in denial.....Thainess. In short....anything but the transparent truth. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ColdSingha Posted March 31, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2015 those Japanese who banned thai flights not looking so crazy now eh 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fritzzz25 Posted March 31, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2015 I always assumed forward momentum and glide ratio would prevent a plane from falling from the sky? Bleed air issue on one engine. Had to conduct emergency descent. This would be done at a high descent rate, which would be felt as if the plane was "plummeting". It would be a rapid descent from 29,000 + feet, down to 10,000 in minutes. So, without a cabin announcement, I would say the "pucker factor" would be at the top of the scale. Especially in light of the GermanWings crash. Bleed air is used to pressurize the cabin so they needed to get down to an altitude where the passengers wouldn't be hypoxic. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post losworld Posted March 31, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2015 Maintenance what maintenance? We changed the oil a couple years ago. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rametindallas Posted March 31, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2015 I always assumed forward momentum and glide ratio would prevent a plane from falling from the sky? Any aircraft can stall at any speed. When it stalls, sometimes the pilot can reestablish laminar flow over the wings and sometimes they cannot. In any case it takes time to recover from a stall and during that time, it falls like a lead balloon. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fritzzz25 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Report on the flight http://avherald.com/h?article=483fc32e Hard to believe this airline is still in existence with their 1-2-Go debacle in Phuket. Couldn't pay me to get on one of their aircraft. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-Two-GO_Airlines_Flight_269 "Well used" aircraft http://www.airfleets.net/ageflotte/Orient%20Thai%20Airlines.htm I couldn't agree more. That company utilise nothing but flying coffins. Anyone who flies with them needs their head examining in my opinion. It wasn't that jumbo that was parked at Udon for years was it ??? or similar aircraft. Apparently this was a 737-300 (old as dirt). I saw that 747 at Udon. Have a photo of it somewhere. It should be in a museum somewhere. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rametindallas Posted March 31, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2015 Oh nooo, more bad news for thai aviation. Who will fly with any of them from now on? Not me or my collegues.... But this happened saturday? Then why it's in the news on tuesday?? Because the journalist are afraid of being shot by a certain prime minister/general. Cheap shot, much? Member for nine years and 895 posts. That's a hundred posts a year. I think you are a troll. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangebrew Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I always assumed forward momentum and glide ratio would prevent a plane from falling from the sky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangebrew Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Do the term flying brick ring a bell? Your several tons of metal and <deleted> flying forward at about 300 miles an hour lose forward motion drop for sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsspiral Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Report on the flight http://avherald.com/h?article=483fc32e Hard to believe this airline is still in existence with their 1-2-Go debacle in Phuket. Couldn't pay me to get on one of their aircraft. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-Two-GO_Airlines_Flight_269 "Well used" aircraft http://www.airfleets.net/ageflotte/Orient%20Thai%20Airlines.htm I couldn't agree more. That company utilise nothing but flying coffins. Anyone who flies with them needs their head examining in my opinion. It wasn't that jumbo that was parked at Udon for years was it ??? or similar aircraft. The Jumbo is still in Udon, they've just moved it off the tarmac into a jungle clearing, you can still see it on take off/landing. That is an old 1-2-Go machine... story here http://www.i-nomad.net/2010/07/plane-for-sale.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Astro86 Posted March 31, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2015 I'm a pilot that often flies a twin-engine aircraft and I can assure you that when an engine fails, the aircraft doesn't just "plunge out of the sky". If the pilot responds to it quickly, chances are passengers won't even notice (depending on the aircraft type). Planes can fly fine on one engine, especially if they are already straight and level at altitude. Perhaps there was also depressurisation issues, hence the rapid descent and oxygen masks. It wouldn't just nose dive due to a single engine failure. 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Nosebleeds? Fainting? From descending too fast?? Yeah it happens to fighter pilots all the time you know ...smells like bullshit. Couldn't come at a worse time for Thailand's aviation... they've had a bad couple of months, the reports, the condemnations, one of their F16's crashing...it's all taking a bit of a kicking at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Well kudos to the crew - at least they managed successfully to recover the aircraft and get it back on terra firma. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fat Haggis Posted March 31, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2015 Oh nooo, more bad news for thai aviation. Who will fly with any of them from now on? Not me or my collegues.... But this happened saturday? Then why it's in the news on tuesday?? Because the journalist are afraid of being shot by a certain prime minister/general. Cheap shot, much? Member for nine years and 895 posts. That's a hundred posts a year. I think you are a troll. and an even cheaper shot in your reply!! so you have to have a huge post count these days otherwise you're a troll? Maybe he has a life that doesn't revolve around TVF? 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sealbash Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I always assumed forward momentum and glide ratio would prevent a plane from falling from the sky?Any aircraft can stall at any speed. When it stalls, sometimes the pilot can reestablish laminar flow over the wings and sometimes they cannot. In any case it takes time to recover from a stall and during that time, it falls like a lead balloon. I have some doubt that any aircraft can stall at any speed as you state. I believe there is a certain stall speed associated with any fixed wing aircraft. It would be interesting to be proved wrong though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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