Hi All

I'm hoping you guys can help me, I'm currently 7 months over stay and had a 30 day visa at the airport when arriving in Bangkok, I want to fly out to Singapore or Malaysia to correct this problem. I know theres a 20,000 Baht overstay fee but I heard a lot of rules have changed at the start of April and I will get banned for 1 year as I'm over 90 days. I then want to stay out of Thailand for about 2-3 weeks before flying back into Bangkok will this be a major issue?

I know I will get a lot of hassle from fellow members but I had a huge personal problem which is now sorted.

Thanks in advise for your help

Dom

No.

There are no 30 day " Visas" you were provided with a visa exempt entry.

You will not be "banned"

Whilst outside Thailand obtain a VISA appropriate to your needs before returning and then stick to the conditions of that visa.

Edited April 15, 201511 yr by nzexpat

Your passport will be stamped as overstay, but that will not have any repercussions when entering Thailand again or when obtaining a visa.

The new rules have not been approved yet.

Thanks for your feedback, whats the best place to fly too as I want to get a family O Visa for my return back into Thailand

Do you qualify for such a visa ?

By marriage to a Thai person for example ?

Edited April 15, 201511 yr by nzexpat

I have a 6 year old son who's half Thai but not married, I understood this is enough to qualify

I have a 6 year old son who's half Thai but not married, I understood this is enough to qualify

Check out this thread

Father of Thai National, What else is needed to qualify for Guardian Visa?

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/811603-father-of-thai-national-what-else-is-needed-to-qualify-for-guardian-visa/

Edited April 15, 201511 yr by Suradit69

If you are named on the birth certificate then you might be able to obtain a 90 day visa but that will be all unless you are the "legal" father of the child.

Edited April 15, 201511 yr by nzexpat

Yes I'm on his birth certificate as his father, looking at other posts seems Laos is the best place to get my visa ?

Edited April 15, 201511 yr by domedwards

Laos will be fine.

being on the birth certificate does not make you the legal father, for that you have to go to court. But you can try the amphur first, together with mother and child. Most will allow you to become the legal father at age 7, but some do it at age 6 or even younger. Might help if you have a school teacher or the headmaster vouch that you are the father of the child.

An off topic post plus replies have been confined to the bin.

Thanks for your helpful comments

Laos will be fine.

being on the birth certificate does not make you the legal father, for that you have to go to court. But you can try the amphur first, together with mother and child. Most will allow you to become the legal father at age 7, but some do it at age 6 or even younger. Might help if you have a school teacher or the headmaster vouch that you are the father of the child.

What if he make DNA test?

Laos will be fine.

being on the birth certificate does not make you the legal father, for that you have to go to court. But you can try the amphur first, together with mother and child. Most will allow you to become the legal father at age 7, but some do it at age 6 or even younger. Might help if you have a school teacher or the headmaster vouch that you are the father of the child.

What if he make DNA test?

It would make no difference. See How To Gain Parental Rights As A Father

Laos will be fine.

being on the birth certificate does not make you the legal father, for that you have to go to court. But you can try the amphur first, together with mother and child. Most will allow you to become the legal father at age 7, but some do it at age 6 or even younger. Might help if you have a school teacher or the headmaster vouch that you are the father of the child.

What if he make DNA test?

This isn't about who the biological father. He can be the biological father, but not the legal father.

If he is not married to his son's mother he is not automatically the legal father and has no legal rights over the child. If he wants to be recognised as the legal father he needs to marry the mother, or apply for legitimation as advised by Mario2008.

Whats the best way to leave Thailand by air or road as I dont want to be stuck at immigration?

Whats the best way to leave Thailand by air or road as I dont want to be stuck at immigration?

The best way is by air.

By road there is always a chance of being stopped on the way to the border.

Whats the best way to leave Thailand by air or road as I dont want to be stuck at immigration?

As long as you make it to the border, and can pay the fine you want have a problem either way.

Your only potential problem is getting caught, on an overstay, by the police before reaching the border. If you are caught, saying you're on the way out of the country will not likely help you, and you will probably be arrested, and put through the deportation process.

If I were you I'd exit from the closest border.

Whats the best way to leave Thailand by air or road as I dont want to be stuck at immigration?

Depends also a bit from where your starting point is.

Are you (very) near a land border crossing, or is a airport with International flights or a airport with easy connection to a Airport with International flights near you?

If you have to use or could use, first a domestic airport to get to a International flights airport, it should also be no big deal,

usually they look only your name page at the passport at check in and security control.

BUT, to avoid any problem there,

(unsure if a Passport copy would be a possibility - your Passport could be in your Embassy to getting a new Passport or in a different Embassy to get a Visa)

just CHECK IN - Online and print your bording pass in any suitable place and you do not need to go to the Check In counter at all. (If you have no check in luggage - even than you just drop it off at the special luggage drop off counter, which does not check your details much more)

You can do that ONLINE CHECK IN, also for most International flights with bigger airlines.

I just did that 12 days ago,

Made myself ONLINE Check In for the Bangkok Air flight from Udon Thani - to Suvarnabhumi and also

ONLINE Check In with =SWISS= Airline to Europe in Suvarnabhumi and could go directly to the Passport control with my 7 days Overstay I had.

Doesn´t matter where you try to leave the country, they will catch you anyway and charge you 20.000 baht and you will get banned for 5 years.

The only way to not get banned is to go to immigration and turn your self in, if you just try to leave the country means they catch you will overstay and then you will be banned.

This is what they wrote with the new regulation.

Yes I'm on his birth certificate as his father, looking at other posts seems Laos is the best place to get my visa ?

As I wrote, from importance is, unknown to us until now, where your starting point is to make that border crossing out of Thailand.

Than we can give more advice.

With INTERNET Check In and self printed bording pass you can reach Nong Khai-Vientiane-Lao also inexpensive threw flights to Udon Thani and a short bus ride to the border.

Flights from Thailand - Vientiane are more expensive, but if money is not such a big factor, fit well also.

Yes I'm on his birth certificate as his father, looking at other posts seems Laos is the best place to get my visa ?

As I wrote, from importance is, unknown to us until now, where your starting point is to make that border crossing out of Thailand.

Than we can give more advice.

With INTERNET Check In and self printed bording pass you can reach Nong Khai-Vientiane-Lao also inexpensive threw flights to Udon Thani and a short bus ride to the border.

Flights from Thailand - Vientiane are more expensive, but if money is not such a big factor, fit well also.

Nice idea ALFREDO, but I don't think online check in helps at all.

Until the OP reaches the desk of an immigration officer at a border he is a risk of arrest. IMO having a booked ticket or being checked in doesn't help if caught.

Doesn´t matter where you try to leave the country, they will catch you anyway and charge you 20.000 baht and you will get banned for 5 years.

The only way to not get banned is to go to immigration and turn your self in, if you just try to leave the country means they catch you will overstay and then you will be banned.

This is what they wrote with the new regulation.

Your passport will be stamped as overstay, but that will not have any repercussions when entering Thailand again or when obtaining a visa.

The new rules have not been approved yet.

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Laos will be fine.

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Whats the best way to leave Thailand by air or road as I dont want to be stuck at immigration?

The best way is by air.

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By road there is always a chance of being stopped on the way to the border.

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-pbonline-

Member since 4 month, but you seem to know more than our =Global Moderators=

PS = Sorry have since some time problem with Multi Qoute answers in the system - does not accept them from me, so I had to anser in that a bit confusing way.

Edited April 16, 201511 yr by ubonjoe

Doesn´t matter where you try to leave the country, they will catch you anyway and charge you 20.000 baht and you will get banned for 5 years.

The only way to not get banned is to go to immigration and turn your self in, if you just try to leave the country means they catch you will overstay and then you will be banned.

This is what they wrote with the new regulation.

The new regulations have not come into law yet so he won't be banned for 5 years.

Turning himself in anywhere other than at a border is asking for trouble.

Yes I'm on his birth certificate as his father, looking at other posts seems Laos is the best place to get my visa ?

As I wrote, from importance is, unknown to us until now, where your starting point is to make that border crossing out of Thailand.

Than we can give more advice.

With INTERNET Check In and self printed bording pass you can reach Nong Khai-Vientiane-Lao also inexpensive threw flights to Udon Thani and a short bus ride to the border.

Flights from Thailand - Vientiane are more expensive, but if money is not such a big factor, fit well also.

Nice idea ALFREDO, but I don't think online check in helps at all.

Until the OP reaches the desk of an immigration officer at a border he is a risk of arrest. IMO having a booked ticket or being checked in doesn't help if caught.

IT helps,

to get me without approaching the Check In desk of Bangkok Air in Udon Thani - could be a discussion there

and without approaching the Check In desk of SWISS in Suvarnabhumi,

so with nobody from importance looking into my Passport,

to get to the Thai Airport Immigration.

(except the short security name check when go inside the departure airport part of airports)

Some people, I was reading here on Thai Visa are already fearful from the domestic flight leg to Bangkok on their way out.

Thanks so much for all your help, I'm currenlty in Bangkok so I'll be leaving for Laos by the airport over the weekend.

Yes I'm on his birth certificate as his father, looking at other posts seems Laos is the best place to get my visa ?

I hope you are for real, when I write so much now.

You wrote in your first posting.

"I want to fly out to Singapore or Malaysia to correct this problem"

That are, from me visited Thai Embassy -Consular sections

and I will stay away from them if its possible.

Singapore was rude

and unhelpful and did not provide me with a Non Immigarnt -O- you like to have, they wanted more than a birth certificate, wantes a proof of staying there - I am also a father from Thai children and not a legal father.

In Kuala Lumpur, it was some years ago - do not know today, overcrowded, so far you had to sit on the floor,

on the end of 2,5 hours waiting, I did not get a Visa, my Passport's last page was not enough free room for them.

Vientiane, yes, sure also Savannaketh (Laos)

and in Phnom Penh-Cambodia possibly the most fun when waiting for the Visa.

In Phnom Penh, Siem Reap or at the beach in Sihanoukville you have, under normal circumstances the possibility to get a Tourist visa from the desk of your Hotel with a Visa agent, costs about 50 Dollars.

The extended waiting time of 3? days there is for me a nice holiday, for others a pain in the ass.

That Visa you can extend in TH after 2 month, for another 2 month, same a Non Immigrant -O- after 3 month for 2 month for having Thai child.

BUT, I do not know, in you special long overstay circumstances,

how they like there to give you a Tourist visa, or maybe not.

A Non Immigrant -O- you have to apply for yourself in PP.

Of course, you can possibly also only come back after some days and get 30 days Visa exempt entry allowance and can extend that than for 60 days - for having Thai child and staying with it.

Thanks for giving me so much info, Ill have a good read and plan to go over the weekend,

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-pbonline-

Member since 4 month, but you seem to know more than our =Global Moderators=

So you have an app that tells how long time I have been in Thailand depending on my membership here?

I think you have some buggfix to do..