What is it about some Men who Bring Thai women to the UK

[Michael8511]

If you haven't already figured out why western guys marry Thai, Russian, Filipino girls or for the same reason guys from these countries you must be very blue eyed. There are 2 kinds of men. Men that honestly like Asian women or men and are looking for a relation built on love, then you have the second group of men that have problems with their temper, drinking etc that would never be able to meet a white lady due to their problems and for them the cost and headache with visas etc is not a problem. Their only interest is to have a person next to them to service their needs and that they know can't run away from their bad habits. I don't know if you heard about russian mail order brides, they are very popular in the U.S.

The biggest problem here is that nobody get involved to help these poor girls and guys that are taken to Europe and U.S. Just for the purpose to serve sexually and domestic duties and rest of the time are abused. As you mention nobody of the happy Asian/White couples like to get involved that's in my opinion a disgrace, you should try to help these poor Asian men and women that are being abused. The way these white scumbags use their partners are bad for all future good intended relations. Asian women and men get a bad name and it will also in the long run be more difficult for a white male to petition their loved one regardless if it's a male or female.

The other downside is that some of these abused men and women are being held as sex slaves, and if you don't get involved in their situation when you see something is wrong you will not realize this. I have seen this first hand in New York where Thai and Filipino guys are forced by their partners to do massage and other services against their will and they don't get the good money that their husbands collect.

The only way this can stop is if the happy married Asians or Russians get to know these unhappy individuals and I'm sorry put their nose in their business to stop the abuse. This kind of trafficking is huge and a big problem.

[robertson468]

Many pitiful insecure men in the world,young and old.If this story is all true why cant she just up and leave?

you have no idea what he has told her, one assumes she comes from a poorer area of Thailand and the UK is her first trip/living overseas and knowing the distrust of the police in Thailand the general thai population have, he could easily tell her, he will have her jailed/killed if she leaves/ has held per passport etc. and from her frame of reference, she will believe him as she may well believe the police are the same the world over as in Thailand.

Is it all conceivable what she is going through is real ?....very much so, as mentioned in a earlier thread seen older men behaving in the similar manner in Thailand with verbal abuse of their younger wives and they come across as if the wives are "their" property, so god only knows what goes on behind closed doors at home.

Its very simplistic for everyone to say "just leave" but in cases like this never that simple

Get off your "older men"hobby horse. Younger men are far more prone to controlling and violent behavior. The problem lies squarely with the character of the person, not the age and of course older men have more experience and are less likely to write such utter drivel.

[windas]

I would be extremely careful in getting involved in someone else's problems, it is very likely to come back and bite you in the rear end.

I have seen over the years, in the UK, husbands being bad and adulterous as well as the Thai wife doing the same. I, and many others, have had stable marriages for many years. But it does seem that a great number get in trouble.

The culture change for the lady, the dissolution of the man, have to be overcome to turn the marriage into a long term stable relationship. I notice the women gather in groups, get envious of each other, then plot to further their ambition.

As many have said before me, initially in visiting Thailand the brain is temporarily housed in the scrotum. After settleing back in the UK with the Honey, the brain returns to the head. But it depends how long it takes for this to happen, if at all. The wonderfull love can become a burden and I believe this is where it all goes wrong for both parties.

There are two sides to the story, as mentioned previously, so its really better for the relevent authorities to get involved and only give minor advice oneself.

This topic can be discussed with different views endlessly.

[PeCeDe]

Yes, you should introduce her to a good solicitor to initiate divorce proceedings and I hope he tries to get as much as he can from this prick.

The problem is that it will cost a lot for her and I hope she is not abused in the meantime.

But do try to help her, it's a good deed you will be doing in your life.

Can I add one more thing, and that is "Get out now!" if she has nowhere else to go there are womens shelters for abused women all over the place in the UK.

[lormakmak]

As sad as this story is it does pose a question from me as to how many Thai/Farang marriages survive in the UK... it's bad enough the home grown relationships these days as it is.

Unless the farang has some kind of hold over them as in children still in Thailand and the promise of them moving overseas with them as well in my eyes some of the women are an absolute nightmare... feral and cannot or will not be told!

On the other hand I have seen and witnessed it the other way round where by the man locks her in the house when he goes to work or down the pub and restricts any free movement.. they are still together and she has wanted to leave but he pays for her brothers schooling so her family forbids it.

My ex got in with the crowd who came, got their long term visas and kids over then started playing up and away... she did the same to me, no kids though so it wasn't a messy split and didn't cost much... she did try to goad me into getting physical with her, attacked me, smashed up the home... how I held back I do not know, just glad I did....

Be careful what you bring home I say

[theonetrueaussie]

Most people have security cameras in the uk, and how do you even know any of the stuff she told you is true....If things are so bad why does she not just leave and go back to thailand. Sounds to me like she is starting to fabricate a story so she has grounds for divorce, take most of his money and stay in england and find a younger man, Hopefully he finds out while in thailand and begins divorce preceedings in thailand!!

I think you are a highly prejudiced man, who given the chance would act in a similar way to a Thai lady!

I am a highly intelligent young man that has heard and seen it all and very rarely does the truth represent what these women say...There is a reason that every bar girl wants to find an Australian or British man and it is not love!!!

[rwdrwdrwd]

Since you assume all Thai women are bar girls, your definition of 'heard and seen it all' has a rather low barrier to entry. One can only infer that this applies to your first assertion as well.

Neither is it true that 'most people have security cameras in the UK' - very, very few people have residential CCTV.

Edited April 27, 2015 by rwdrwdrwd

[MaeJoMTB]

Since you assume all Thai women are bar girls, your definition of 'heard and seen it all' has a rather low barrier to entry. One can only infer that this applies to your first assertion as well.

Neither is it true that 'most people have security cameras in the UK' - very, very few people have residential CCTV.

As I said before, it sounds like a lie.

Has OP seen these cameras?

[dotpoom]

Some men don't take a wife....they take a "hostage".

[wowfactor10]

Why u stick ur nose in other people marriage...

och u trolling

[whaleboneman]

because he says she is working so she can pay for her own thing

Don't understand your point. She has a job so why not pay for her own things????

Normally Thai women who have married a foreigner for money expect him to pay for everything and keep the money they earn for themselves.

Come to think of it, a lot of English women do that too.

You mean the ones with the massive gap....20 year old chick with 50 year old man type....You know the ones who married him cos he have a good heart and cos he a good man

I think they marry them because their heart not so good.

[kurtramsbottom]

I read somewhere that the Thai embassy in London get an average of 18 Thai women every day wanting to go back home due to abuse.

...so, about 5000 a year. Utter rubbish.

Thats a laugh.......only abuse their husbands might give is how much they have lost this time in the Casino........ Never mind 90% resort to "type" within a year and the rest are on the lash nightly......

Thais dont want to leave the UK once they get here !! 18 a day !! I doubt if it reaches that total in an entire year

& you are in the UK witnessing all of this?

[DDuval]

I hope you don't see any either. Ideally no other human beings at all.

Another spineless Farang who needs to grow a pair. I bet your one of those suckers who Wai to the girls as he walks in to a Bar

[rwdrwdrwd]

To be perfectly honest, as a rule I do not go to beer bars in Thailand. Due to:

1 - The really, really shit music played on repeat

2 - Classless foreigners talking in pidgin English

3 - The occasionally pretty, but generally intellectually subpar women

Given that you demonstrate zero experience of encountering Thai women outside of the confines of beer bars, I suspect the only place you can garner attention, is in one. Which completely explains your sad perspective.

In short, I'm far happier with my pair than I would be with yours.

Edited April 27, 2015 by rwdrwdrwd

[wooloomooloo]

Holiday romances don't appear to have advanced any since I was 13 years old, and that was 33 years ago.

[hellohello123]

Marry someone for visa/money/looks or something superifical then expect to have problems

Absolutely no sympathy from me for the both of them

[louse1953]

Yes, you should introduce her to a good solicitor to initiate divorce proceedings and I hope he tries to get as much as he can from this prick.

The problem is that it will cost a lot for her and I hope she is not abused in the meantime.

But do try to help her, it's a good deed you will be doing in your life.

But would you say the same if this was going on in Thailand.Most would say,keep your nose out.

[louse1953]

Mind your own business.

Break off all contact with the couple if you don't like what's happening.

Absurd and pitiful.

Shame on you.

The OP has no idea what's going on.

Probably getting told a pack of lies so she can make a realistic claim for IDR, and get a younger/richer husband without leaving.

Or it could be the complete and utter truth, and she should leave the UK immediately.

Sometimes women tell lies to get sympathy and assets, and they're usually very good at it.

Nothing at all stopping this woman from leaving the UK and returning to Thailand, if she doesn't want the husband she has no right to be in the UK.

Rubbish,she has as much right as anybody,especially if she is being abused by a British national.

[louse1953]

, She is 26 years old he is about 33, and they Live in the UK, to many people trying to change things But i always expected some Guys in denial of having any feelings towards A living person who happens to be a Thai female. I have never said Thai Couples i said there are lots of couples meaning Thai English. couples ,

Fair enough,

But tell me, if you're that concerned, and really feel the need to do something, why not just buy her a ticket back to Thailand and drive her to the airport.

She has absolutely no right to remain in the UK if her marriage has failed.

And at 26 years old, has every chance back in her own country with her family.

If she has been abused she has a case to stay and also a part of his assets.You really have to know yourself before you get married or you could lose the lot.

[MrMuddle]

I read somewhere that the Thai embassy in London get an average of 18 Thai women every day wanting to go back home due to abuse.

Wonder if the Thai Embassy in London is as helpful as the British Embassy in Bangkok?

When my wife tried to contact the Thai Embassy in London, a few years ago, they didn't even answer the phone. She tried lots of times, (and it was the correct number), before giving up. Hopefully they will have improved since then.

[louse1953]

I'm with the poster that said mind your own business! People lie one side of the story etc.

What do you do when the women ends up dead.

[NanLaew]

I know of one former Pattaya bar girl, now married to a Brit, living in the UK and surviving mostly on benefits. This is HIS lifestyle choice, not hers. He frequently comes back to Thailand while her visits are few and far between. The gossip among her friends here is that he's a low-level, drug dealer and strings along a few girls at a time. He could even be the WPOSB cited in the OP. However, I do not know him personally but would not be surprised that there's a fair few knobheads running a similar scam. Probably one down your local pub each weekend. You know, the skinny little shit, selling illegal smokes from his car boot and repeatedly telling anyone who will listen how Pattaya is "brill."

Edited April 28, 2015 by NanLaew

[theonetrueaussie]

Since you assume all Thai women are bar girls, your definition of 'heard and seen it all' has a rather low barrier to entry. One can only infer that this applies to your first assertion as well.

Neither is it true that 'most people have security cameras in the UK' - very, very few people have residential CCTV.

you seem to assume assumptions that were never made, I think you are one of those gullible people that believe everything someone tells you. I know last time I was in england a year ago and stayed in houslow/heathrow area before flying out nearly everyone had bars on their windows and security cameras so depending on where they live it could be the norm. You have one side of a story and as we all know there are 2 sides to every story!!

[MaeJoMTB]

Since you assume all Thai women are bar girls, your definition of 'heard and seen it all' has a rather low barrier to entry. One can only infer that this applies to your first assertion as well.

I think most of us assume the foreign guys who holiday in Pattaya and marry a Thai girl are likely to be married to a Thai sex workers of some kind.

Most Thais would make that same assumption.

You have broadened our assumptions way out into your own little fantasy.

Edited April 28, 2015 by MaeJoMTB

[DDuval]

To be perfectly honest, as a rule I do not go to beer bars in Thailand. Due to:

1 - The really, really shit music played on repeat

2 - Classless foreigners talking in pidgin English

3 - The occasionally pretty, but generally intellectually subpar women

Given that you demonstrate zero experience of encountering Thai women outside of the confines of beer bars, I suspect the only place you can garner attention, is in one. Which completely explains your sad perspective.

In short, I'm far happier with my pair than I would be with yours.

Yeah...heard it all before. I'm in Thailand for the weather, I'm in Thailand for the Food. Admit it your here cos you cant get a woman in your own country....

[rwdrwdrwd]

I'm in Thailand for the resident offshore income tax legislation, and so's my wife (and our son, and the cat).

No, I never struggled romantically in the UK.

Edited April 28, 2015 by rwdrwdrwd

[rwdrwdrwd]

Most people have security cameras in the uk, and how do you even know any of the stuff she told you is true....If things are so bad why does she not just leave and go back to thailand. Sounds to me like she is starting to fabricate a story so she has grounds for divorce, take most of his money and stay in england and find a younger man, Hopefully he finds out while in thailand and begins divorce preceedings in thailand!!

I think you are a highly prejudiced man, who given the chance would act in a similar way to a Thai lady!

I am a highly intelligent young man that has heard and seen it all and very rarely does the truth represent what these women say...There is a reason that every bar girl wants to find an Australian or British man and it is not love!!!

you seem to assume assumptions that were never made, I think you are one of those gullible people that believe everything someone tells you.

The assumptions are highlighted for you. You're welcome, Einstein.

Edited April 28, 2015 by rwdrwdrwd

[phrodan]

Mind your own business.

Break off all contact with the couple if you don't like what's happening.

Absurd and pitiful.

Shame on you.

The OP has no idea what's going on.

Probably getting told a pack of lies so she can make a realistic claim for IDR, and get a younger/richer husband without leaving.

Or it could be the complete and utter truth, and she should leave the UK immediately.

Sometimes women tell lies to get sympathy and assets, and they're usually very good at it.

Nothing at all stopping this woman from leaving the UK and returning to Thailand, if she doesn't want the husband she has no right to be in the UK.

Waffle

The days of "what goes on behind closed doors," are over - that old-fashioned talk allowed an epidemic of abuse, murder and rape.

[phrodan]

You would have thought that after the sex abuse revelations of the last few years - where people complained to the authorities and were ignored - it would have started to seep into the public consciousness that if someone expresses fear/asks for help they should at least be listened to.

I'm appalled that anyone now carries a "blind eye," attitude. That's what allows the psychos and abusers free reign.

[sir charles IV]

Your humanatarian impulse is struggling to cope. This s suggests you're a caring and good person. But when it comes to marital issues of others experience shows it is best to stay away from other couples issues. At Rome point you'll be blamed for the break up. Furthermore there is two sides to a story. Not saying he's not a tosser but do u have ALL the facts?