Indonesia executes drug convicts, defying global anger

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Indonesia executes drug convicts, defying global anger

CILACAP, Indonesia (AFP) - Indonesia early Wednesday executed seven foreign drug convicts including two Australians by firing squad but a Filipina was spared at the 11th hour, local reports said.

Defying a firestorm of international criticism and heartrending pleas by relatives, authorities put the seven plus a local man to death after midnight Tuesday (1700 GMT), the reports said.

However the Filipina, Mary Jane Veloso, was spared after someone suspected of recruiting her and tricking her into carrying drugs to Indonesia turned herself in to authorities in the Philippines, MetroTV and the Jakarta Post reported.

Eight convicts - two Australians, one from Brazil and four from Africa, as well as the Indonesian - were put to death on the high-security prison island of Nusakambangan, the reports said.

In Indonesian executions, convicts are led to clearings just after midnight, tied to posts and then giving the option of kneeling, standing or sitting before being executed by 12-man firing squads.

President Joko Widodo has been a vocal supporter of the death penalty for drug traffickers, claiming Indonesia is facing an emergency due to rising narcotics use.

He has turned a deaf ear to appeals from the international community led by United Nations chief Ban Ki-moon.

In an 11th hour bid to stop the executions, the European Union, Australia and France warned in a joint statement late Tuesday the move would have an "impact on Indonesia’s position in the world and its international reputation".

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Indonesia-executes-drug-convicts-defying-global-an-30258987.html


-- The Nation 2015-04-29

[Mr Somtam]

I can guess who is making the big bucks on the drug trade. Same as in LoS...

[Dannyboy666]

At least they didn't Kill that Philipina, but could be temporary, Bloodthirsty Bastards...I'm sure we' ll have the usual Alcoholics, spouting off about drugs dealers and such, the Rush Limbaugh brigade, it's a Prescription Drug it's OK, cmon bring it on.

[chooka]

Australia has withdrawn thier ambassador and suspended political ties with indonesia.

These people knew the laws and consequences, they didn't give a single thought about the lives of others they were destroying. They broke the law and paid for it. The execution of drug dealers is no loss to society, the trash has been taken out.

[chooka]

At least they didn't Kill that Philipina, but could be temporary, Bloodthirsty Bastards...I'm sure we' ll have the usual Alcoholics, spouting off about drugs dealers and such, the Rush Limbaugh brigade, it's a Prescription Drug it's OK, cmon bring it on.

It not just Alcoholics who despise drug dealers, tea drinkers see drug dealers and paedophiles as equally disgusting people.

[ukrules]

I find it a little disturbing that nearly all of those who were murdered today are foreigners. Only one was from Indonesia.

This sounds political or worse still religiously motivated to me.

[ukrules]

Australia has withdrawn thier ambassador and suspended political ties with indonesia.

These people knew the laws and consequences, they didn't give a single thought about the lives of others they were destroying. They broke the law and paid for it. The execution of drug dealers is no loss to society, the trash has been taken out.

The best retaliatory action the Australians could do would be to issue the most stern 'do not travel' warning to Indonesia - the one that voids all travel insurance policies and implement economic sanctions.

All but one of those executed were foreigners and probably not of the same religion which suggests some politician sabre rattling to gain a few votes.

This country needs to be punished for its barbaric and medieval ways.

Edited April 28, 2015 by ukrules

[Dannyboy666]

At least they didn't Kill that Philipina, but could be temporary, Bloodthirsty Bastards...I'm sure we' ll have the usual Alcoholics, spouting off about drugs dealers and such, the Rush Limbaugh brigade, it's a Prescription Drug it's OK, cmon bring it on.

It not just Alcoholics who despise drug dealers, tea drinkers see drug dealers and paedophiles as equally disgusting people.

. Wrong ,Just Uneducated Tea Drinkers...

[Dannyboy666]

Australia has withdrawn thier ambassador and suspended political ties with indonesia.

These people knew the laws and consequences, they didn't give a single thought about the lives of others they were destroying. They broke the law and paid for it. The execution of drug dealers is no loss to society, the trash has been taken out.

The best retaliatory action the Australians could do would be to issue the most stern 'do not travel' warning to Indonesia - the one that voids all travel insurance policies and implement economic sanctions.

All but one of those executed were foreigners which suggests some politician sabre rattling to gain a few votes.

This country needs to be punished for its barbaric and medieval ways.

They executed their own for Pot, Draconian State...

[nidieunimaitre]

Let us for a moment assume that they were convicted by a real court, on real evidence - not by a mickey mouse court, <deleted>land style.

The death penalty would still be a horror, an abomination.

But it would be a horror, an abomination that is not high on my list. After all, those people were serial murderers.

[ukrules]

Let us for a moment assume that they were convicted by a real court, on real evidence - not by a mickey mouse court, <deleted>land style.

The death penalty would still be a horror, an abomination.

But it would be a horror, an abomination that is not high on my list. After all, those people were serial murderers.

You've lost me there, who murdered who ?

[CaptHaddock]

Death penalty is an abomination wherever it exists. But as punishment for drug offenses it's very stupid. It has never stopped illegal drug distribution. Why would it? Increasing the risks of the drug business just raises the price of the drugs to the point that someone else is willing to take the risks. But the people who love punishment continue to love it no matter how little it accomplishes.

[nidieunimaitre]

Let us for a moment assume that they were convicted by a real court, on real evidence - not by a mickey mouse court, <deleted>land style.

The death penalty would still be a horror, an abomination.

But it would be a horror, an abomination that is not high on my list. After all, those people were serial murderers.

You've lost me there, who murdered who ?

Drug sellers murder their customers. Slowly.

[nidieunimaitre]

Death penalty is an abomination wherever it exists. But as punishment for drug offenses it's very stupid. It has never stopped illegal drug distribution. Why would it? Increasing the risks of the drug business just raises the price of the drugs to the point that someone else is willing to take the risks. But the people who love punishment continue to love it no matter how little it accomplishes.

So please explain why there are not more drug dealers? Since punishment does not stop them.

[ukrules]

Let us for a moment assume that they were convicted by a real court, on real evidence - not by a mickey mouse court, <deleted>land style.

The death penalty would still be a horror, an abomination.

But it would be a horror, an abomination that is not high on my list. After all, those people were serial murderers.

You've lost me there, who murdered who ?

Drug sellers murder their customers. Slowly.

Sure they do

[CaptHaddock]

Death penalty is an abomination wherever it exists. But as punishment for drug offenses it's very stupid. It has never stopped illegal drug distribution. Why would it? Increasing the risks of the drug business just raises the price of the drugs to the point that someone else is willing to take the risks. But the people who love punishment continue to love it no matter how little it accomplishes.

So please explain why there are not more drug dealers? Since punishment does not stop them.

Have you ever read about economics? Distribution expands to meet the demand. Why are there not more car dealerships? Because the car market is pretty much saturated. Demand is being met. Same with drugs, despite the fond hopes of the punishment lovers, there are always going to be enough drug dealers to service the demand. Demand for illegal drugs has not diminished during 40 years of Nixon's "war on drugs" in the US. All it achieved was make the US the world leader in incarceration rates.

[wonder6281]

Yes they would have known the risk, but to execute them after 10 years is pure torture. 10 year sentence and then execution. It just doesn't seem right.

[chooka]

Yes they would have known the risk, but to execute them after 10 years is pure torture. 10 year sentence and then execution. It just doesn't seem right.

Maybe a hug and a nice cup of tea would be a more suitable punishment for lowlife drug dealers. How about a national holiday and call it hug a criminal day.

[Dannyboy666]

Yes they would have known the risk, but to execute them after 10 years is pure torture. 10 year sentence and then execution. It just doesn't seem right.

Maybe a hug and a nice cup of tea would be a more suitable punishment for lowlife drug dealers. How about a national holiday and call it hug a criminal day.

They did 10 years in a Indo prison,I'm sure not a cake walk and your talking Tea, Lunacy Prevails on here.

[Scott]

Off-topic post removed.

[Kerryd]

I find it a little disturbing that nearly all of those who were murdered today are foreigners. Only one was from Indonesia.

This sounds political or worse still religiously motivated to me.

Indonesia has executed 33 people since 2001, including the ones executed last night. Of those 33, 20 were Indonesians. (In the same period, Thailand has apparently executed 14 people.)

The USA executed 35 people just last year, including 3 foreigners and 2 females.

"Top executioners

China again carried out more executions than the rest of the world put together. Amnesty International believes thousands are executed and sentenced to death there every year, but with numbers kept a state secret the true figure is impossible to determine.

The other countries making up the world’s top five executioners in 2014 were Iran (289 officially announced and at least 454 more that were not acknowledged by the authorities), Saudi Arabia (at least 90), Iraq (at least 61) and the USA (35)."

"REPORTED EXECUTIONS IN 2014

Afghanistan (6), Belarus (3+), China (+), Egypt (15+), Equatorial Guinea (9), Iran (289+), Iraq (61+), Japan (3), Jordan (11), Malaysia (2+), North Korea (+), Pakistan (7), Palestine (State of) (2+, Hamas authorities, Gaza), Saudi Arabia (90+), Singapore (2), Somalia (14+), Sudan (23+), Taiwan (5), UAE (1), USA (35), Viet Nam (3+) and Yemen (22+)."

I somehow get the impression that the international "outrage" has more to do with the number that were executed at one time, rather than the fact they are doing executions at all. I suspect that if these executions had of been spaced out over the course of the year we'd have heard as little about them as we have about all of the ones carried out in those other countries, especially the ones where they still like to do it publicly by beheading or stoning.

[IamNoone88]

I don't see a problem here. Drugs are a mounting curse and ruining hundreds of thousands of lives and families around the world and could ultimately threaten our own children. They were smugglers purely after monetary gain at the expense of users. They were not innocent. Its not the west with a nice soft sentence and out to do the same again in a few years.

[nottocus]

Excellent news to wake up to this morning. Really made my day.

[simple1]

Yes they would have known the risk, but to execute them after 10 years is pure torture. 10 year sentence and then execution. It just doesn't seem right.

In comparison on an average how many years does the appeal process take in the US prior to carrying out the death sentence, probably a lot longer than ten years. The issue that the Oz government has highlighted is that the two, to use the word by the Foreign Minister "apparently" were sucessfully rehabilitated and positively assisted others in gaol. Whilst Oz policy is the global repeal of the death sentence, rehabilitation of the two seems to be the crux of the issue for the Oz government.

Some have called for stopping financial aid, I could be wrong, but don't belive there will be any real cut in aid when it comes up for announcement sometime in May, as it would not be in the national interest based on DFAT's reasoning.

http://dfat.gov.au/geo/indonesia/development-assistance/pages/development-assistance-in-indonesia.aspx

This year carrying out the death sentence moratorium is up for review in Thailand, will be interesting to see the response if executions re-commence.

Edited April 29, 2015 by simple1

[jacko45k]

Australia has withdrawn thier ambassador and suspended political ties with indonesia.

These people knew the laws and consequences, they didn't give a single thought about the lives of others they were destroying. They broke the law and paid for it. The execution of drug dealers is no loss to society, the trash has been taken out.

The best retaliatory action the Australians could do would be to issue the most stern 'do not travel' warning to Indonesia - the one that voids all travel insurance policies and implement economic sanctions.

All but one of those executed were foreigners and probably not of the same religion which suggests some politician sabre rattling to gain a few votes.

This country needs to be punished for its barbaric and medieval ways.

Well Bali would be on its knees in no time without Australian tourists.

There is strong support within Indonesia for the death penalty and anti-drugs actions, so this is also political.

Not only Indonesia has the death penalty........do you also condone punishing say the USA?

[klauskunkel]

the European Union, Australia and France warned in a joint statement late Tuesday the move would have an "impact on Indonesia’s position in the world and its international reputation".

your world position will go from 83 to 84 and you will have a bum rep for a while...

now the Indo govmt is quaking in their flipflops.

[heybuz]

the fact that a terrorist only got 4 years prison in indo also may have something to do with it,after planning the deaths of 70 people

[English 1]

No Drug Customers = No Drug Dealers and Smugglers!

Drug dealers are Scum for sure BUT the Customers buy the shit and take it willingly!

They are not murdered they are just Stupid Prats.

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As to the Convicts singing before the execution....

Being it's Indonesia I bet they where given a few Pills by the authorities!

Probably as high as kites.

I am pleased the girl has a stay of execution as she was probably duped.

The Brasilian should have been spared as he was diagnosed with Mental Health problems.

It was against the law to kill him.

Edited April 29, 2015 by metisdead
Bold font removed, again.

[TheKnave]

At least they didn't Kill that Philipina, but could be temporary, Bloodthirsty Bastards...I'm sure we' ll have the usual Alcoholics, spouting off about drugs dealers and such, the Rush Limbaugh brigade, it's a Prescription Drug it's OK, cmon bring it on.

It not just Alcoholics who despise drug dealers, tea drinkers see drug dealers and paedophiles as equally disgusting people.

Some of us see bloodthirsty a**holes as fairly disgusting people.

[Dannyboy666]

I suspect drug smuggling will take a hit after this.

Well done Indo.

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