scoutman360 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 I spent 2 weeks sleeping in a park at 15 yrs old. Then a nice guy took me in and let me crash on his floor for 1 year as I did anything for money. I got off my $^%ss and walked the streets washing windows and mowing lawns for money. At 21 yrs, I was cleaning toilets to pay for my college. Any beggar looking for a free pile of cash just doesn't get my sympathy. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandyellow Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 poor people are obsessed with money hey - so are rich people and in North America - the average person dies with 75% of their savings intact that infers some have 98% - and you guessed it - some have zero when they croak that is so the playing field is level at the beginning and the end and that's about it for more useless trivia, please pm me or just stay tuned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I don't like the middle class who thinks they're well off.why not get a polystyrene cup and ask them for money? Put in 100 and take out 80 baht change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZBill Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I just give them Obama's phone number! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaeJoMTB Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I let a poor young Thai farm girl live with me. That must make me a good person! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirtless Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I look at it like this when i was rock bottom no one helped me when these people have money they just blow it i only have to look at my thai girlfriend, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zierf1 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Problem is, we need those poor people to keep the cost of living low. Imagine if the cheapest apartment you could find was 25,000 baht a month and a meal at a cheap restauarant was 400 baht. The problem we have in the West is that the cost of living has run out of control(i.e. 100k baht amonth apartments, 150k baht hospital visits, etc.) due to all the rich people inflating everything. It's why I cannot afford to live in the US anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I don't like the middle class who thinks they're well off.why not get a polystyrene cup and ask them for money? Put in 100 and take out 80 baht change. Shouldn't that be the other way around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Croc Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I let a poor young Thai farm girl live with me. That must make me a good person! I buy rice seemingly for most of her village, have sent several kids to college and my reward is to be infested with them as they flock to Phuket looking for jobs and an easy life. I now have to supply smart phones and motorbikes. I've got nothing left for an old fashioned panhandler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I don't mind giving to the poor, what I hate is people that want to take other peoples money and give it away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon43 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Don't assume he was poor - some 'beggars' are rather well-off after an easy day scamming off good samaritans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konying Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Don't assume he was poor - some 'beggars' are rather well-off after an easy day scamming off good samaritans That's true. There was a beggar in Delhi, India , who always sat at the door steps of a sky scrapper. Police could not remove him as he was on private property and owners never complained. When he died , turned out he was the owner of the sky scrapper. Similar in Sydney , Australia. Homeless woman, helped by many. After passing, turned out she had $ 8000 000 in her mattress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Croc Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 When living in London some years ago I was regularly accosted by a young guy sitting under a blanket on the footpath near my ATM. "Giv us a tenner Gov" and similar, was his usual plea. To his credit, when told where to go, he took it in good humour. When I saw him one night in a local pub with his mates, singing, dancing and waving a pint around, my dismissals of his requests became somewhat more pointed. He probably owned the pub! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Here's a UK example. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/pregnant-beggar-toddler-help-message-4614294 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Croc Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Here's a UK example. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/pregnant-beggar-toddler-help-message-4614294 UK article, American story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fey Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I rarely give when in a foreign country. I figure its the host countries job to take care of them, or at least a local. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 i dont like poor people You're too fussy. I don't like any people. Just like me. I don't discriminate. I hate everyone. equally I hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) I realize we live in a digital vacuum where video taping a rape or an assault is more important than helping the victimized. Where a homeless person is taunted, humiliated and often a victim of aggression rather than a recipient of goodwill. Where a beggar becomes a slick con artist by a skewed perception of the fortunate. To be human means that we care for each other and civilization means we work together to create a better life for each other. If that is true, then there is nothing human nor civilized about passing by someone in need, regardless of your mental assessment. The moment we stop caring and fighting for each other... that's the moment we lose our humanity. Humanity was lost a long time ago and Id rather humanity was wiped out and leave the rest of the world to it, those that wont rape the entire planet, why humans think they are special I have no idea running round proclaiming their God did this that and the other, the sooner we are all gone the better. Edited May 25, 2015 by kannot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I spent 2 weeks sleeping in a park at 15 yrs old. Then a nice guy took me in and let me crash on his floor for 1 year as I did anything for money. I got off my $^%ss and walked the streets washing windows and mowing lawns for money. At 21 yrs, I was cleaning toilets to pay for my college. Any beggar looking for a free pile of cash just doesn't get my sympathy. Sorry. Parents need to drill into kids to support themselves (even in Thailand), first job I had was having to clean my own room when I was about8 years old, at 10 I was cleaning cars clearing snow etc at other peoples house to make some money, pocket money was earnt not given by my parents. In the Uk now its bank of Mum and Dad I remember saving for 2 years to by a motorbike and polishing it almost daily, today it get bought on finance or given money, its all too easy they take no care of the things they have and dont respect them at all ............free easy money......it will all come crashing down though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I realize we live in a digital vacuum where video taping a rape or an assault is more important than helping the victimized. Where a homeless person is taunted, humiliated and often a victim of aggression rather than a recipient of goodwill. Where a beggar becomes a slick con artist by a skewed perception of the fortunate. To be human means that we care for each other and civilization means we work together to create a better life for each other. If that is true, then there is nothing human nor civilized about passing by someone in need, regardless of your mental assessment. The moment we stop caring and fighting for each other... that's the moment we lose our humanity. Humanity was lost a long time ago and Id rather humanity was wiped out and leave the rest of the world to it, those that wont rape the entire planet, why humans think they are special I have no idea running round proclaiming their God did this that and the other, the sooner we are all gone the better. Go ahead brother, you first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Moved to Expat forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Are they really poor people or are they just lazy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I don't mind giving to the poor, what I hate is people that want to take other peoples money and give it away. Like the UK government and overseas aid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whyamiandwhatamidoinghere Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I spent 2 weeks sleeping in a park at 15 yrs old. Then a nice guy took me in and let me crash on his floor for 1 year as I did anything for money. I got off my $^%ss and walked the streets washing windows and mowing lawns for money. At 21 yrs, I was cleaning toilets to pay for my college. Any beggar looking for a free pile of cash just doesn't get my sympathy. Sorry. I guess that nice guy that helped you out could have thought like you but he didn't. He saw someone who needed help. How many people with the same disposition you have now stopped and offered anything? He gave you more than a handout. He gave you a leg up and changed the trajectory of your situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmptyHead Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 If i think they are too old to work, or too disabled to work, I am happy to give. But not kids or regular looking people, and if I see gold jewlery, a beer, gambling, or a mobile phone I won't give at all. And if they walk towards me with their hand out or disturb me inside the restaurant while I am eating, I won't give at all. Though it is rather painful eating with that type of disturbance. I once had a begger jog down the street after me with his hand out. He was mid 30s and spoke great English. I think it was in Nepal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whyamiandwhatamidoinghere Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 My definition of poor: A person, for whatever reason, that doesn't have access to enough money to provide oneself with the basic needs at any given point in time. There are many scenarios where you have money but no way to access it. It is at this point in time that you are poor and in need of goodwill by another compassionate human being. There will come a day, if it hasn't came already, that the hardest of hearts will be humbled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmptyHead Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 If i think they are too old to work, or too disabled to work, I am happy to give. But not kids or regular looking people, and if I see gold jewlery, a beer, gambling, or a mobile phone I won't give at all. And if they walk towards me with their hand out or disturb me inside the restaurant while I am eating, I won't give at all. Though it is rather painful eating with that type of disturbance. And the staff who refuse to assist me in getting rid of him and infact act like its my responsibility to pay him to leave their premises do not get a tip and i tell them why. I once had a begger jog down the street after me with his hand out. He was mid 30s and spoke great English. I think it was in Nepal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaeJoMTB Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 If i think they are too old to work, or too disabled to work, I am happy to give. But not kids or regular looking people, and if I see gold jewlery, a beer, gambling, or a mobile phone I won't give at all. And if they walk towards me with their hand out or disturb me inside the restaurant while I am eating, I won't give at all. Though it is rather painful eating with that type of disturbance. And the staff who refuse to assist me in getting rid of him and infact act like its my responsibility to pay him to leave their premises do not get a tip and i tell them why. I once had a begger jog down the street after me with his hand out. He was mid 30s and spoke great English. I think it was in Nepal. Beggars that enter restaurants and bars are usually run by gangs. The staff don't interfere because they don't want the place burnt down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I am sure poor people dont like you either in fact I was talking to poor people yesterday, and they said "we dont like this crickets guy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgrahmm Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Many are organized mafia "employees" dropped off and picked up by their handlers....the more money they attract the better areas/locations they are placed into..... Some with the sleeping/drugged kids are not even their own kids and have a handler somewhere close by..... Kind of like in that movie about the kid in India that won the quiz show and how they depicted the beggars.... At least they are not aggressive here like in the Philippines.... Makes it hard to sort out who to have compassion for when you have a good idea someone is actively waiting to take it away from them..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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